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Hello everyone,
I'm totally lost in this WM6 upgrade.
I've tried everything but i wont get my MDA Vario to flash with WM6.
My MDA Vario is unlocked (sim and CID) but i can't flash it because of my SPL 2.21????
This is what i have done:
installed button's 1.05 ROM
Download & installed lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b.
But stil my SPL is at 2.21.
Can someone please help me out here??
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Schmia
Both your IPL and your SPL must be 2.xx and higher. After you flashed to Buttons rom. did you reflash to a higher version after after you unlocked and cid unlocked your phone to make sure both IPL and SPL were 2.xx or higher?
I've followed the tutorial:
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with.
My IPL was 1.XX after the 1.05 downgrade, but my SPL was still 2.21 even after the rerun.
I have tried to instal T-Mobile 2.26 rom, but it gave an error.
check if you have G3 or G4 unit
I have a 3G device.
Is there nobody who can help me???
schmia said:
Is there nobody who can help me???
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I think that you haven't unlocked the phone properly. Read Dr. P's tutorial about unlocking G3 phones.
Kirby
if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different.
WHen you downgrade to the Button rom, in most cases the IPL will change, but the SPL will not. You then have to downgrade again to get the SPL to get to 1.xx . There have been some cases reported where it takes reflahsing the button rom many times (like 8 times or somesuch) before the SPL will finally come down, but you have to complete this step or you will not be CID Unlocked.
Make sure you have your SD card out when you are flashing as this can cause problems.
Good luck, and sorry, but for those that have run into the stuck SPL there hasn't been a real solution other than keep flashing the button rom until it drops down to 1.xx. After that then the CID unlock will be complete and you can then flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom (or whatever other 2.xx rom you want).
mfrazzz said:
WHen you downgrade to the Button rom, in most cases the IPL will change, but the SPL will not. You then have to downgrade again to get the SPL to get to 1.xx . There have been some cases reported where it takes reflahsing the button rom many times (like 8 times or somesuch) before the SPL will finally come down, but you have to complete this step or you will not be CID Unlocked.
Make sure you have your SD card out when you are flashing as this can cause problems.
Good luck, and sorry, but for those that have run into the stuck SPL there hasn't been a real solution other than keep flashing the button rom until it drops down to 1.xx. After that then the CID unlock will be complete and you can then flash the T-Mobile 2.26 rom (or whatever other 2.xx rom you want).
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This should be added to the tutorials about Unlocking & Rom Upgrading.
And this quote also.
"if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different."
Cing 8125 said:
This should be added to the tutorials about Unlocking & Rom Upgrading.
And this quote also.
"if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different."
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The Dr. P tutorial specifically says this (just not in those words). It tells you (after the last lokiwiz) to watch your screen and that you most likely will still have an SPL of 2.xx and will need to reflash (most people just don't read this and try to move on). The part of about having to reflash numerous times is new though. I've only heard of it a few times, but if you look at the posts from a month or so agao in the Dr P thread on unlocking you'll see where a few people ran into it and it took numerous flashes to finally get SPL to go to 1.xx.
before wm6 roms, every time there was a new rom for wm5 (molski or faria) you'd always get people in the thread mentioning that their ipl and spl are different. in those threads, the advice has always been to reflash a few extra times too. (I personally haven't had any problems with this...but i think i started my unlocking on a 1.8 us t-mobile rom with xelencin's rom...which had an unlocker built into the rom update package).
anyway, the phone's not bricked or anything, so you just have to keep flashing to get it working...
xelencin's rom (the first rom I ever flashed...)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274205&highlight=xelencin
monkey_knight said:
if your ipl is 1.05 and your spl is still 2.21...then you need to reflash again so that both ipl and spl are 1.05 before you can proceed. ipl and spl should never be different.
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I've re-flashed 3 times but if i understand correct, than i have to retry flashing until SPL and IPL are the same?
Regards,
Schmia
schmia said:
I've re-flashed 3 times but if i understand correct, than i have to retry flashing until SPL and IPL are the same?
Regards,
Schmia
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yes. ipl and spl should both drop to 1.05. at that point you can go through the unlock and flash back up.
Thanks Guys!!!
With all your good advise, i finally have my MDA Vario flashed with a WM6 rom (TNT 2.0 Professional)
I'm really greatfull to you!
Now i have to find out what WM6 rom is the best for me.
Regards,
Schmia
im just curious as to what the main difference is in having an IPL/SPl of, say, 2.25 vs 3.08 or something else. if anyone could help that would be great
higher IPL/SPL is supposed to give faster boot times
If you do some searching, you'll discover that IPLs/SPLs higher than 2.26 tend to cause problems with custom WM6 ROMs. There's no reason to go any higher than 2.26.
kegobeer said:
higher than 2.26 tend to cause problems with custom WM6 ROMs
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could you explain that? never read that before since i'm here.
backslash2k said:
could you explain that? never read that before since i'm here.
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I believe his key words were "If you do some searching....."
No. I do have no problem so far. My IPL and SPL are both 3.08 and using NBD. Very stable and very fast after changing pagepool to 12MB.
IPL/SPL not the same
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
ephraimdy said:
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
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try to run the Button_rom again...
ephraimdy said:
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
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You didn't follow the flashing guide. This time, read the entire guide and all of the stickies before you attempt to unlock your phone.
I don't have any problems with IPL/SPL 3.08, its working great with WM6 and it has bit fast booting time, and i believe this is solid as T-Mob's 2.26. Newer Bootloader doesn't have any issue, beside i dont have any lockups after 3.08. Anyways its your own pref. so i prefer 3.08 and radio 2.69.11 for T-Mob users.
ephraimdy said:
Hi,
I upgraded my os to WM6 and followed the thread in this forum. Then my IPL/SPL is 2.16. Now they are different , my IPL is 1.01 and my SPL is 2.16, does this matter? Did I missed some procedure? Is there a procedure that can make the IPL/SPL with the same number?
Ephraim.
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you may have missed a step about having to reflash buttons/love rom a few times until both ipl/spl are in the 1.xx. afterwards flash up to a 2.xx rom (recommended t-mobile usa 2.26), then flash to a 3.xx if you want to (floating around, but there is an official t-mobile ver in germany).
i went to upgrade my ipl/spl and i ran into a problem. the ruu tool reset my phone as usual to restart in bootloader but it never came back on. it cut off and now it wont turn on. can someone help? is my phone bricked?
try booting manually into bootloader if that works, restore using the Official ROM that comes from Carrier.
edit: wait are you telling me that you upgraded your IPL/SPL on G4???? with G3.... Dude thats bad sign
nycelitemaster said:
try booting manually into bootloader if that works, restore using the Official ROM that comes from Carrier.
edit: wait are you telling me that you upgraded your IPL/SPL on G4???? with G3.... Dude thats bad sign
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::gulp:: how bad exactly?
SUPER-BAD
G4 + IPL of G3 is BAD!
Not to be insulting at all, but didn't you read those numerous warnings about NOT Flashing G3 with G4, and vice-versa?
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SUPER-BAD
G4 + IPL of G3 is BAD!
Not to be insulting at all, but didn't you read those numerous warnings about NOT Flashing G3 with G4, and vice-versa?
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i f**ked up... maybe i can pull a new one from att
There are possibilities for reviving a bricked G4, you might want to check this
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
thanks man ill check it out. wish me luck...
thunda_chunky said:
thanks man ill check it out. wish me luck...
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Try Googling as well, you might get some ideas and yea good luck bro. I've got a friend who bricked his G4 and revived with those ideas. If you phone is under warranty you can call ATT with last resort and say something happened to your phone when you restarted, never tell them you upgraded the bootloader that is how you messed up.
1 question when your buddys g4 was bricked what was its condition?
does any one now how to lower the spl . when u start the ppc mine is 3.08 and i need it lower so i can unlock my phone
Well, my guess is that your phone is already unlocked if your SPL is 3.08.
Is is a G3 or G4 Wizard?
G3 But I Wont To Put Black Diamond On It
So just try to launch the setup for BD to know if it really isn't already unlocked (in case it is, the Rom will install, and if it isn't, then it just won't, so theres' no risk for your phone.
Ya It Says Like Bnf Error
So you just have to follow the Wiki:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
i need to downgrade me spl first i no how to unlock it
So what? Can't you READ? Everything is written in there, including the way to downgrade.
Here is a link to the adequate Rom since you seem so lazy...
Good luck
http://c4software.another-team.com/wm5.0/Downgrade/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
lol im not lazy i have read so many tutorials on to unlock to phone
Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
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Just to forewarn you, do not install the downgrade ROM until you bring your IPL/SPL down from 3.08 to 2.xx. If you don't you may end up like a lot of other people on here where you can't upgrade the IPL after you get done unlocking your phone and go to install WM6. To get it down, just go to your service providers website and download their official version of their ROM and install it first and that should bring your IPL/SPL down to a 2.xx version, then flash the downgrade ROM.
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I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
ok thanks i will do that then i will unlock smart thinking
famewolf said:
I did find one workaround that appears to almost always work is to have a minisd with a dumped raw image of a previous rom with ipl/spl included (r2d all command)...this was able to downgrade a phone on 3.08 back to 2.24 even after having gone to wm6. (it downgraded it back to wm5 at the same time)...conventional flashes were failing due to the ipl/spl.
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Yeah, downgrading your IPL/SPL is easy, it's when you go from a 3.xx IPL/SPL straight to a 1.xx IPL/SPL that can cause problems, like your IPL sticking at 1.01 afterwards and not wanting to upgrade back to a higher IPL.
YA but i cant find a downgrade for my spl
In the future, don't send private messages to people who haven't contributed to this thread. If you can't figure out how to downgrade and/or unlock your phone after reading the many, many threads on how to do it, I suggest sticking with WM5.
Here, run this. It's an IPL/SPL version only. It won't affect anything you info or programs you have loaded on your phone right now, all it will do is lower you back down to an IPL/SPL of 2.26.
ya that made me ipl 2.26 not my spl
That's not normal, try running it again. I think I just put a file that will change it to 2.25 in another post that you started. If the 2.26 one doesn't work after running it again, try the 2.25 one and see if it works for you.
Just install a factory T-Mo or Cingular ROM
(Gotta locate 1 yourself)
You'll lose all your info but you wanted to flash another Rom anyway.
You gotta keep a factory Rom handy when things go wrong
cujo did you just buy an 8125 because you think it looks cool or do you actually understand the phone? It seems to me like you should be using a razr or something less complex than that...
I followed Dr. Puttingham's thread and Yippie's thread to a tee in addition to reading threads in this forum for a good number of hours each day for two weeks. Yesterday, I became brave enough to downgrade my 2.26 Ipl / 2.26 spl; GSM 2.25.11; OS 2.26.10.2 MDA with a goal to upgrade to a custom WM6 rom with touchflo.
* Started with flashing the button rom then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful no errors but got a 1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL since I got a 2.26 SPL then
* flashed the wizard love rom then then cid unlock with lockwiz2b which looked successful also but got the same results - a1.xx IPL / 2.26 SPL again then
* flashed the 2.26 T-mobile rom from the Tmobile website then
* flashed NBD 8.3 only to go back to Tmobile's 2.26 rom - DISAPPOINTED after two hours...............
Any assistance would be appreciated without bricking my MDA. Also, I read the thread on how to install a 2.x rom in a cid locked G3, this method appears a little bid complicated and if I need to move forward with this method, would this method work for any WM6 rom with touchflo and if somebody could simplify the method in layman's terms for newbie's like me could understand, please advice.
Let me know if I missed anything in the process.
Thanks, Technobuff
After u do cid unluck and sim unluck and its reboots do a downgrade again to the button rom and ur ipl and spl will change.(u do not have to re-due the onlucking procedure again)
I tried again performing Dr. Puttingham's CID unlocking process in terms of flashing the button rom then the CID unlock process using Lokowiz2b but while I am at the DOS screen trying to CID unlock my MDA it the DOS screen showed unlocking phone........DO NOT DISCONNECT UNTIL THE PHONE REBBOTS.
This process went on for 5 then 10 then past 30 minutes until I gave up. To be on the safe side I turned off the LAPTOP by taking the battery then pulled the USB cable from the PC to the MDA.
What is the typical timeframe for the unit to CID unlock? Why is is it hanging? Am I missing or skipping the process? How can I complete the process?
Any help would ber greatly appreciated by newbies who read threads.
Technobuff
The problem is that you need to have an IPL/SPL of 1.xx before you try to unlock your phone. CID unlocking will not change your SPL which means that you had an IPL of 1.xx and an SPL of 2.26 before you even tried to unlock. You need to reflash the button ROM over and over until your IPL and SPL both show 1.xx and then run lokiwiz.
dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm
unlock problem
if your device doesn't reboot almost at once after the unlock, it probably didn't work. That is what happened to me. Did you get four lines of File cannot be opened or a similar message? I got that from following the 17 steps carefully. What was wrong for me was unzipping to the root directory of C:/. When I redid it to the desktop and executed from there, no problemo.
Your symptoms sound exactly like mine. I posted a longer thread, somewhere....
LH
Ok i did a little booboo and yesterday was using equinoxe's softspl tool by mistake (didn't notice i had a g3), this causes you to actually end up with the exact same os you had before you flashed.
The best advice I can give: Open the Dr's guide and follow every step closely. (also just found this guide. Its a bit simpler http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305225)
Once you CID unlock you should be able to use the RUUs to flash.
Make sure everytime you do any of the steps that dr. putt gives to be comepletely synced to activesync.
Also dont forget to load enablerapi.cab on your wizard.
Also you must use the unlock function before the cid unlock function in lokiwiz.
OH also the unlock will work after your ipl drops to 1.xx After you do the unlocks reflash button to drop the spl to 1.xx Then just flash up to a higher IPL/SPL as the Dr states.
If it seems unorganized im sorry =P
4irm said:
dont get your point, i have been using shelltool for ages without any problems and quite a lot custom roms. my SLP/IPL is 3.08.
regards
irm
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Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong
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Umm I believe the IPL/SPL of 3.08 means your phone is unlocked... so you really shouldnt need to use shell tool. Some correct me if I'm wrong
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Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.
thanks. helps me to learn stuff.
CID???
how wil i know if my fone mda vario is CID unlocked?
it is now installed with t-mobile 2.26 ROM
thanks.
rizortiz
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Just cause you have 3.08 does not mean you are unlocked..you could have upgraded a 2.xx ipl/spl without having downgraded and unlocked first.
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right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm
4irm said:
right, i installed the latest german t-mobile rom and my device is still locked. the point i made is why the hell does somebody want to downgrade? It doesnt matter if u use the shelltool.
regards
irm
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Perhaps they want it actually cid unlocked for resale value...or perhaps they prefer the RUU method of installs vs having to use shelltool.
Hi!
I need some help / steps to update my Wizard to WM6 (or 6.1)
I tried with diferent ROMs, i followed the differrent guides, but something strange is happening.
After installing the ROM, everithing seems ok, the device restarts, but ... i still have the WM5!!!
What i missed? I have IPL/SPL 2.18, unlocked phone.
Some guidelines?
Thanks!
Peter
Not cidunlocked... as usual...
CID locked
Thanks!
I missunderstood that CID lock is different from SIM lock. No i undestand what's happening.
The problem thta i have now is using WST. I tried to unlock CID, but it says that i have to downgrade SPL to 1.06 to unlock CID (because is write protected)
So, corret me if i'm wrong, i have to
Downgrade SPL to 1.06
Unlock CID
Upgrade SPL to 2.xxx
Install WM6 ROM
It's correct?
Thanks!
P
PeterSlam said:
Thanks!
I missunderstood that CID lock is different from SIM lock. No i undestand what's happening.
The problem thta i have now is using WST. I tried to unlock CID, but it says that i have to downgrade SPL to 1.06 to unlock CID (because is write protected)
So, corret me if i'm wrong, i have to
Downgrade SPL to 1.06
Unlock CID
Upgrade SPL to 2.xxx
Install WM6 ROM
It's correct?
Thanks!
P
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YUP ! thats correct.First downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx to CID unlock,than upgrade to 2.xx for upgrading to wm6 or 6.1 ,follow this guide :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
use button's rom to downgrade to 1.05 and make sure both IPL/SPL are 1.05 sometimes u have to do it twice to get to this state..
then unlock it both supercid and sim
then u can update to WWE 2.26 as this is the most solid base..