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As the title really - since HTC and various carriers have now released Official WM6 ROMs for some devices (Hermes, Herald etc), is anyone working on porting one of these over to the Wizard?
The build of the Official Hermes ROM is 5.2.1437 (Build 17944), I am sure a lot of Wizard users would like to see this, me included
Andy
yep..i'd like to see it too
eluth is doing so with the Herald/T-Mo Wing ROM.
nice to hear...
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
Nothin, I'm inclined to agree. 15342 is the most stable build I've used yet. The Herald ROM doesn't even have Office 2003, VoIP or even the latest Windows Live. The only advantage I can think of is that the XIP section from the Herald perhaps allows you to pack more into the ROM. This is borne out by the fact that the Herald has the same amount of memory as the Wizard, yet the dump shows up around 135 mb on disk which is way more than the Wizard .nb can handle without thowing an error in build_imgfs.
If anyone can do it, eluth probably can, but I don't think many people will be joining in developing this one. I just lost my Wizard and though I have a brand new one coming , it's probably a G4 and I have a little catching up to do on that end before I can even think of something of this magnitude.
nothin said:
i must ask: what is the point?
to get to land of unstability?
what gain you are predicting....
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I was thinking to maybe increase stability.....
I agree 15342 is probably the most stable release so far, however up until these official releases everthing so far has been pre-release stuff that has been leaked whether it was originally from a Wizard or not.
I still have issues with 15342, plus a lot of the underlying software is at least a year old. I would just like something new to play with......
Andy
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
Does anybody have a link to an extracted version of one of these roms? By extracted, I mean the actual files and rgu's.
This is what I am running on my Wizard and in my opinion, it is by far the best and fastest. No problems, Microsoft voice command is built in and works perfect. WiFi connects without a hitch, Bluetooth pairs and stays connected.....It is missing MMS and has office 2003. If you need MMS, there are many versions posted that you can add.
http://rapidshare.com/users/T4RZX2
the file to download is nk.nbf:
http://rapidshare.com/files/36233948/nk.nbf
alexanderi said:
any update if anyone working on the Official Release from HTC for Hermes / Dopod 838 pro / etc?
It is nice if we can feel the stability of this official release. Thanks.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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I think you are dreaming. You are talking about rting a rom from one device (yes where it is stable) to another, then grafting drivers for the wizard onto it plus whatever else it will take/need and then you think it will be stable? 15431 and 15432 only became stable through lots of work and trial and error. I'm still not convinced they are any more stable thann the "official" 318 rom (and that isn't as stable as it was originally due to the updating and grafting done in most of those).
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for porting, but don't expect a stable rom on one device to keep the stability on another device.
BTW: I still think a lot of the newer WM6 builds have nothing new in them other than support for newer hardware or specifics for a carrier.
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Ok, thanx for the advice. I am too, currently stick to the clean Official wizard ROM, which found to be most stable and fast. Though, I have tested a lot of ROM out there.
I don't know how well a ROM from another device would work on ours but over in the Hermes corner which might be the brother of ours. Cingular calls ours the 8125 and the Hermes 8525. They have a new OFFICIAL AT&T Windows Mobile 6 Rom that has them all shook up. There have been 20 pages of posts in 2 days.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317339
it's nothing special...basically what we already had, but with all the cingular add-on stuff... like Push to Talk and stuff... and it's bloated to death...lol..
What was the release date?
7/10/07 .. it wasnt officially released, it's a leak... but thats the ROM date .. came with a new RADIO too 1.48..
Sounds good, much newer than the one over here. Good luck with it.
The only thing that i like about it is the fact that i can now have wm6 with a working PTT
Pumpiron579 said:
This is what I am running on my Wizard
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Does it expose any problems at all?
I guess you must have done a lot of registry fixes, right? I mean, Hermes uses different driver stacks (I assume) and most probably they require different settings, which are device specific..
I would really try this out (especially because it solves the BT re-pairing problem), but firstly I wanted to make sure it is of minor risk and to understand what might be the time investment to get it to work.
As far as I can tell there are 5 WM6 roms, making it pretty hard to decide which one to use.
Theres Phils alpha and beta versions which both appear to be cooked versions of the Vox rom? And both have a high CPU bug resulting in bad battery life.
THeres the perfect english version, don't know where that came from.
And the sticky post with a HTC beta rom, sticky because...?
And also the official dopod rom, which some people say is the best choice.
So I guess I'm not the only one confused about which one to use. Guess the dopod one is the best bet at the moment.
None of the actual ROMS are based on HTC VOX. NONE.
All are based on an INTERNAL UNIT BUILD...
I've tested them, and the best is " Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition" by andot. It has some bugfixes (eg: WMP, MMS..) and other TWEAKS, that you will NOT FIND in other ROMS (eg: Automatic Time, Unlock Clock, etc etc). So, right now, it's the best build.
No CPU overload problem, it was fixed. (and btw, it can be fixed manually by removing a key from registry, a2dpfix related key)
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And also the official dopod rom, which some people say is the best choice.
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There is no official DOPOD ROM. That name is misleading. I am guessing the cooker meant that his ROM is for the DOPOD variant of HTC Tornado.
I'm agree with DSF " Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition" 20070807 is for the moment ( 07/08/2007 23h31) the best ROM for WM6 on Tornado.
Not being self-whoring or anything here, but pretty much ALL of the major issues in my ROM have been sorted in a test build I build today, expect a release sometime next week.
AFAIK, all the WM6 builds are based on my ALPHA build, however I will be porting a HTC S710 XIP and IMGFS when time and resources permit, so we'll have something like an WM6 RTM build for our tornado's...
Phil
Yes, without Phil's alpha build, we have nothing about the WM6 for Tornado, Phil did a great work!
Thanks andot, also thanks for some of your great work I've included in my test BETA2 ROM
Phil
its nice to see two brilliant cookers helping together! nyahahaha!
brilliant + brilliant = awesome rom!!!!! am i right?
If we help each other, the world has got to be a better place by the end of it Maybe not create a ROM together, but definitely share what we have and know
Phil
jm012a9749 said:
If we help each other, the world has got to be a better place by the end of it Maybe not create a ROM together, but definitely share what we have and know
Phil
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that is the whole idea between open source software as well, such as linux. it doesn't mean that you must create a single rom but you must use each other's wisdom to perfect your own work.
imfloflo said:
I'm agree with DSF " Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition" 20070807 is for the moment ( 07/08/2007 23h31) the best ROM for WM6 on Tornado.
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You are right, Windows Mobile 6 for Tornado Perfect English Edition 20070807 is the best at the moment. I have tried all these ROMs on my Dopod and now decided to stay with this ROM. Thank you all for your hard works and effots.
Just one small question. Anybody try the WWE version released right before Tornado Perfect English Edition ? My Dopod seems to have better batery life on WWE Rom than Perfect English Edition ROM. I have done a comparation test in the same amount of time (8 hours). In WWE ROM, my phone losts just less than 10% of battery but on Perfect English Edition ROM (v20070807), my phone losts up to 20% (even I used Automatic CPU speeds Mode in Tornado Power Control, saw the CPU speed is lower to 132MHz, closed phone and didn't use phone within these 8 hours).
Can anyboday help to explain to me why and how to solve this matter ?
same here. but without power control. in about 12 hours i have lost about 30%
Phil, what font size are you usign for SMS? I hope it is the same as your Beta build because the 'Perfect Tornado ROM' uses a very small SMS font
I flashed back to the WWE version this afternoon. It's more stable and somehow has less power consumption (I can't put my fingers on the exact reason for this.)
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Phil, what font size are you usign for SMS? I hope it is the same as your Beta build because the 'Perfect Tornado ROM' uses a very small SMS font
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I will correct this issue in the V4
bogdi1988 said:
same here. but without power control. in about 12 hours i have lost about 30%
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Do you know which application cause that?
With the V3 i lost 8% between 00:00 and 09:14 it's very good (ps: I don't use tornado power control, just automitkeylock, xbar are running)
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Do you know which application cause that?
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I have no idea about what application causes this matter, just use what it has in your Perfect ROM. Can Automatic CPU speed mode in Tornando Power Control application cause this matter ?
Perhaps the automatic CPU power reduced the clock speed when not in use, hence giving you more power, that should be what happened
Using the WWE build my current power draw is 48 mAmp. (SDA) What do you guys get using other builds? (use celeTask to check)
Currently using the Last tilt specific beta and it works well.
What current dutty rom is 1) most stable
2) most likely not to need a keyboard fix
3) most like the one currently using
4) which radio to us if in United states or is this just trial and eror?
I have done the reading, but don't know which to try next. This is my work phone and I can't be down for the count if I screw things up.
Any advice would be appreciated. If I am not going to gain much from upgrading, please advise.
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Currently using the Last tilt specific beta and it works well.
What current dutty rom is 1) most stable
2) most likely not to need a keyboard fix
3) most like the one currently using
4) which radio to us if in United states or is this just trial and eror?
I have done the reading, but don't know which to try next. This is my work phone and I can't be down for the count if I screw things up.
Any advice would be appreciated. If I am not going to gain much from upgrading, please advise.
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Why is everyone flooding this forum with questions like these?
1) You have to find out yourself, but V3 (will be released soon) seems to be stable
2) Tilt will always need Keyboard fix, cause of the different keyboard layout
3) The most like your current ROM?? Hmmm.... Maybe one without changes??
4) There is a thread (sticky) about Radio ROMs. Read that thread, and when you download a ROM just see what Radio ROMs are compatible.
1. N/A because I don't run any of them for over 24 hours. His ROM factory has a good production.
2. All of them need a keyboard fix unless you flash a mentioned at&t version. To my expriences, always keep the keyboardfix cab handy in card.
3. N/A. Flashing a different ROM is highly addictive action.
4. x.xx.xx.11, .17 or .32 is fine. .09 for at&t specified ROMs only.
afavre said:
Currently using the Last tilt specific beta and it works well.
What current dutty rom is 1) most stable
2) most likely not to need a keyboard fix
3) most like the one currently using
4) which radio to us if in United states or is this just trial and eror?
I have done the reading, but don't know which to try next. This is my work phone and I can't be down for the count if I screw things up.
Any advice would be appreciated. If I am not going to gain much from upgrading, please advise.
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I've got a tilt as well and I'm running Dutty's DualTouch V.2 Medium...
As for what's most stable? They're all pretty stable. try a couple and decide for yourself.
The keyboard fix is unfortunately a necessity for any rom originally designed for an HTC branded Kaiser. The Cingular/AT&T tilt has a slightly different keyboard setup than the HTC branded Kaiser. HOWEVER... I wouldn't worry about it. there are several SUPER easy ways to fix it, the most popular seem to be a cab file available from Dutty's download site in his signiture and a utility called Advance Config 1.1
If you're looking for something like your original AT&T rom... Look elsewhere... Dutty has done a good job of modifying this rom with ALOT of different packages. Most of the familiar apps are there but you may be able to access them in different ways. Also he has tweaked and tuned things to work better than originally.
As for the radio there is a sticky that gives a real good overview of the different radios. But most of it is trial and error based on a) the rom you are using and b) the configuration of the network you are using. I live in an area that is JUST getting 3G and has NO HSPDA So most of the roms seem to work about the same (ugh...) But others have reported that one works better or has better battery life... it's often a give and take and seems to be ALOT of subjectivity. but one thing... the "AT&T" 14.09 radio doesn't work with most Kaiser based ROMs. So unless the rom your using is specifically built for it (most of Dutty's aren't) don't bother you'll have problems with no sound and other things.
Hope this helps! but my best advice... READ READ READ... there's ALOT of info out there. And realize that like most threads, questions that people feel are already answered will bring about some rather curt posts from people. So try to be sure your question hasn't already been answered somewhere else.
thank all for the advice. May make the switch over to a dual touch rom over a holiday when I don't need the phone.
You all have been much more patient than most with some semi newb questions that I have had. I know I don't add much to the "development" discussion, but I sure as hell can break some things and make people feel smart when the tell me how to fix it (or "f" off and search the forums, newb).
The radio install is the only sort of "out there" portion of this whole thing and I will do my homework before my next flash.
radio
I have tested both .17 and .32 and I like .17 better I notice little diff. in battery life but service seems better and the internet is much better. I'm in the mid west and I have HSDPA service mostly.
I have a question for you technological advanced who have some info about the i900 Omnia.
Does this phone have a default or optional English setting if you buy it in another country? The reason I ask is that I am living in Germany and I understand German pretty well but I dont want to fry my brain always trying to figure out complicated configurations in another language.
There are english Roms and there may be German Roms. Take a look on Modaco.com
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There are english Roms and there may be German Roms. Take a look on Modaco.com
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Ok, is it difficult to install? Is it possible to back up the original? Does it matter which English ROM you use?
They don't include any other roms or default languages on the installation cd?
I have no experience in this department. I am quite new to WM phones in general. I have been a loyal Palm Treo (Palm OS) user for many years and I want to make the transition because of the wider range of abilities and software available out there.
Can someone give me some experiences about how easy it is, etc...I have absolutely no reference or clue in this department.
Does this include all WM phones?
Unfortunately the I900 is still fairly new, so there is not a whole lot to learn about it.
Flashing should be easy. I have flashed mine a number of times to test out th different ROMs. Currently I have HH2 installed (HH2== second release for August)
The process is very simple if you have XP. If you have vista, I think that you may be in trouble. I have not successfully gotten anywhere with Vista aside from the Samsung certified ROM from July.
With XP, you just:
- Install samsungModem_xp.zip
- download an installable .exe. it should be soomething like I908ZNHH2_XP.rar and it will extract to a single .exe. You just charge your phone, turn it off, then run the exe, plug in the phone, turn it on and it will be detected. Then press the button to start the install and do not touch anything for about 5 minutes or until it is happy.
Notes:
- Do not use grandPrix unless you know what you are doing, it can cause real problems. Only use full Roms (These com as .exe's rather than as .bin's)
- Sometimes things go wrong for no apparent reason. When in doubt, retry.
- The "Safest" rom seems to be DXHH1.
- The fastest/more free memory ROM seems to be ZNHH2.
(The first two letters indicate which country it came from).
- I had to flash HH2 twice to get all of the free memory that it offers. I have no idea why, but it worked and I got back 30 meg.
I908 is the same as I900. (It is for southest Asian markets but the hardware is the same.)
Thanks pidsw
Thanks for the tips pidsw. I really appreciate it. I am definitely at a learning curve when it comes to wm phones being an old Palm OS Treo user.
It doesn't sound so complicated. Does it matter what English rom I use? I have seen so many things floating around, I am not sure which one to use?
Does the rom include all of the software that comes with the phone?
Last question for now (because the rest doesnt make sense for another 3 weeks, because that is when my contract is up and I will order my new phone), where is a good site to get this program? and the English roms?
Fortunately, I have both operating systems on 2 different computers, so XP wont be a problem (I have a home computer with XP sp2).
Thanks a lot for your time. Thanks from a future i900 user.
There are generally three types of ROMS:
- Manufacturer ROMs
- Carrier Branded ROMs
- "Cooked" ROMs
If you get your phone from a Carrier (i.e. T-Mobile) you will have a carrier branded ROM. These are often the worst - Carriers tend to put a lot of extra junk into the ROM and/or restrict functionality of the ROM and/or require your to pay for certain services (such as tethering your phone to your laptop or computer in order to get an Internet connection).
Right now there are a lot of Manufacturer ROMs out there. If you have an I900 and you are located in Germany, I would only use Roms that begin with "I900" or "I908" (these are the same hardware and they use the same cellular bands).
I907 Roms will work better in North America, but they will not support 3G in germany.
I908E roms are for China. I believe that these use different cell bands, so I would avoid them.
The most active sight in English right now is Modaco. Here is a link to their Omnia message board:
http://www.modaco.com/category/342/i900-omnia-http-i900-modaco-com/
There are direct download links to ROMs here and the Samsung XP modem drivers. (they are hard to find on Samsung's site, you have to really look hard)
As far as which ROM is best, I suggest that you always read the reviews prior to installing any ROM. Whenever a ROM is posted, you will see a lot of reviews in the same thread.
I tend to go for the latest ROM's whenever possible as these tend to be the fastest and they tend to have the most functionality and are usually the most stable. In some ways they are like driver updates (in fact they include driver updates and OS updates).
Cooked ROM's are pieced together based on the preferences of the "Chef". Some are "lighter", giving you more free memory and more room to install your own software, while others have lots of preconfigured apps on them which can be convenient. It seems like most of the good chefs are on here or PPCGeeks.com. Right now there are very few Omnia chefs, but I expect that this will change dramatically within a month or so.
Right now I am using a Manufacturers ROM (I908ZNHH2 for Hong Kong). It seems faster (the phone is so fast it is hard to tell) and it definitely has more free memory than the last ROM that I had installed (I900DXHH1). When I first got my phone, it had an older ROM on it (not sure the version #) which was worse in many ways. It surprises me that when people review a phone, they often do not know what ROM it has installed. This can make a huge difference for new phones as the phones are often released before the ROMs available are "Mature"
I appreciate your support pidsw
Hi pidsw,
Thanks for all your support. I really appreciate it. It helped to ease my fears and I will definitely be getting this phone in a few weeks.
I am also grateful for all of the insight. As far as branded phones go, I definitely wouldn't touch one with a 10' pole. Fortunately I can buy them through an online vendor here in Germany that sells them in connection with a cellphone provider, so I don't have to worry about that mess.
My last question to you, does it matter which English ROM I use? I see all of these codes (e.g. DXHH1, being for Singapore, etc). Or will any English ROM do? What would you recommend to a new i900 & wm user?
Thanks and I will come back to you and everyone here on this site in a few weeks when I get my cool new upgrade.!!!
Great support here!
This is all great information! I also wanted to know a couple things before I upgrade my rom... I think mine was from Singapore when they just released it... it may be their 2nd or 3rd update. I downloaded the XP modem driver and the latest rom image from the site you listed, Modoco.com. My question is that I normally sync on my Dell laptop that runs Vista, but my wife has an XP machine. Can I just connect it and do what you listed above to flash it, or do I need to install the latest activesync on the XP machine first? Also, I use AT&T and the EDGE network. When I flash, will I be able to get the settings again to work with my sim card (which came from my US iphone)? Finally, if I made a backup of my programs running on my current rom version, after flashing, can I restore the old image back without any corruption or problems? I used SPB Backup to create an .exe backup file. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Hi there,
Simply, I need help and advice regarding Polaris ROM's
I was looking for answer in ROM Development section many times(FAQ too), but all topics are so confusing(disorganised, confusing and uninformative) that I'm losing my sanity.
I was trying few roms(like panosha think), but unfortunately dissapointed me(bugs, unresolved issues etc.)
So what i need is quite simple in fact:
-fast, stable 6.1 or 6.5 version
-bug free or at least little bugs
-fully working radio(bluetooth, wifi, 3G and GPS)
-need default microsoft keyboard
Don't need gizmos, although nice GUI is a good point to go.
Thank you in advance.
tl;dr
Help me finding best ROM
go to htc support page scroll down to the bottom of the page, enter your phone's serial number and you will download the newest official ROM, with update utility included.
a good rom for polaris..
It's been more than 1 year that I use the rom called 3LIT3 (FULL VERSION) on both my 2 polaris... they work very well, 3LIT3 is really a fantastic / fast/ bug-free rom. I have the "3LIT3 V FULL WWE" VERSION.. and I can guarantee for this one only. I know there are the VI, the VII and the VIII versions of the same rom, but for sure number V is absolutely perfect. Everything including bluetooth, gps, external speaker, battery, wi-fi ecc ecc is working very well, without bugs...and including footprints!!
AH I FORGOT this rom is based on WM6.1 plus manila2d of course...
You got just to update the google maps cab..and your poleris will FLY!!!.
@faredino
thx for the tip this rom ist the best rom i´ve tested
i had m-amines, which is also nice but not as fast as lit3
i had pcars 6.5 rom, which is good but very slow (i think 6.5 is´nt the right thing for polaris)
and since a few days the lite3 VIII, which blew my mind...very very good work a pitty that he stopped working on it
so if you need a good stable rom take lit3 !
How about 6.5 recommendations?
So what's a good bet for WM6.5?
Was using pcarvalho's latest (24DEC09) but it has been freezing up & generally running very laggy. My Orbit 2 is going to my wife so I need something friendly as it gets whilst also reliable & quick. WM6.1 comes over too strong on the 3LIT3 ROMs...
i just tested pcars and kostas, but haven´t found a better rom then lit3, it got not the nice appearance of wm6.5, but i prefer speed and smoothnes
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It's been more than 1 year that I use the rom called 3LIT3 (FULL VERSION) on both my 2 polaris... they work very well
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Tried, tested and i can confirm that.
Stable, bug free with nice gui.
Thank you.
3lit mmm, too slow for me.. too much stuff, probably many of them will never be used.
obviously you pay your many stuff with -speed!
a 400mhz processor can perform more than that, it have to, with 3lit I felt like going back to omap 201mhz ppc generation...
I have two Polaris and on both I have returned after many tries to an official 6.1 ROM, with radio updated, and tomtom7.
I think it's all what you need, a fast and crashless rom,
for me it's just all I need
Recently I have upgraded to 3LIT3 VIII FULL ITA....
...definitely my fav's ROM!!!!!!!!!
Will thank chavonbravo for the rest of... the days of my both polaris!!
If you're also using that rom, please consider a donation to the great mind of chavonbravo!
Also..anyone has changed the rom's keyboard? i think that is the only "not really perfect" issue of 3LIT3_VIII.. but it is overall GOOD anyway
Bye everybody,
alexandertheat said:
go to htc support page scroll down to the bottom of the page, enter your phone's serial number and you will download the newest official ROM, with update utility included.
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Hello,
I am looking for this option to download a new rom but i can not find.
Can I help me with a link, please.
Thank you very mutch
I am afraid downloads on HTC home page are no longer available. License for WM has expired some time ago.
Search on Touch Cruise ROM development page though.