Does anyone know if there has been any benchmark comparison between the two CPU used in most PPC handheld phones?
TI's OMAP™ 850, 201 MHz vs. Samsung SC3 2442, 400 MHz.
I'm just curious as to what the results are, and why are some selected phones use certain CPU as suppose to the other or the most common one?
Any feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks all!
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This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
gzprophet said:
This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
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I'm not really sure what you mean - do you mean if the CPU has enough computation power to execute other tasks while the GSM is active?
If you have followed my articles (most importantly, the ones concerning recording phone calls), you already know the answer: yes, the CPU has the power to execute almost anything else. I haven't made exact CPU usage benchmarks (with acbTaskMan), but I don't think the CPU usage of the GSM module is higher than, say, 20% on a 416 MHz XScale.
it all depends on yr usage. and what u do with yr pda phone.
omap is good for battery life, if u just do appointment & task, simple mp3 leisure yes its for u (dun think abt video)
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices but have customize the chip so that u can choose between PERFORMANCE or BATTERY LIFE. appears in XDA IIi (htc/ppc2003), STEALTH (gigabyte/wm5), Zinc (asus/wm5/6), Atom Life (quanta/wm5/6), Flame (arima/wm5). so far only o2/asus/gigabyte have such feature for their pda phone.
so if you like multifunction/tasking(skype/msn/wifi/internet radio/surfing). get a good device, like ATOM LIFE
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
Tabbe said:
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
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Also add the new Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. It seems hardware manufacturers are switching to it and ditch at least the not very multimedia-friendly Samsung. (I bet something similar will alos happen to XScale, unless they manage to radically reduce their power consumption.)
Tabbe said:
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
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f-ing idiots should just keep their mouths shut. It's 208MHz, you moron. And the guy is asking about processor division of resources, not saying he wants Intel. GOT THAT? or do you need further translation?
raymondu999: I'm gonna ask you to control yourself next time. Such attitude will not be tolerated here. Thank you.
"while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices "
o2 is a phone company they dont make phones the oem phones from other companys
afaik the omap850 is not a real dual-core cpu, because both cores are not the same. one is used for normal apps and the OS and a simpler one takes care of the GSM part.
So... OMAP850 is a Simple Processor for GSM + 200 Mhz Processor for apps
Then my doubt is how Intel manage this, if a device has a spec of processor 416mhz , this 416mhz are for GSM and Apps.
I read in some posts that Intel processors has troubles to manage GSM-APPS-WIFI etc.
intel dont magede gsm and wifi
it's handled by 3th party chips i believe
it would simply see them as IO devices
Hi @ll..
i will buy the new HTC TyTN II in the next 2 weeks. This one has an Qualcomm 7200 Processor with a speed of 400 Mhz.
Today i found the XDA Flame (cause of the GeForce 5500 ;-) ) and found out, that its the Toshiba G900 with a XScale PXA270 with 520 Mhz.
But this Processor is older than the one of Qualcomm, isn´t it?
So my question:
is the qualcomm a better processor than XScale? Is it also faster? (i know.. 520Mhz vs 400Mhz.. i mean this, like on PCs.. i.e. a Pentium 3 with 300 Mhz is also faster than Pentium 2 with 300 Mhz)
thanxx
HTC TyTN processor vs. XDA Flame processor
I think that because the flame has the GoForce 5500 GPU in it, it means that the main processor doesn't have to worry with graphics - leaving it free to process other stuff. So it's more powerful then. I've got one, and it's pretty quick.
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I think that because the flame has the GoForce 5500 GPU in it, it means that the main processor doesn't have to worry with graphics - leaving it free to process other stuff. So it's more powerful then. I've got one, and it's pretty quick.
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However, don't forget that VERY FEW OpenGL ES games / emus / demos (all desginedearlier for the 2700G) run on the Flame.
nEuDy said:
Hi @ll..
i will buy the new HTC TyTN II in the next 2 weeks. This one has an Qualcomm 7200 Processor with a speed of 400 Mhz.
Today i found the XDA Flame (cause of the GeForce 5500 ;-) ) and found out, that its the Toshiba G900 with a XScale PXA270 with 520 Mhz.
But this Processor is older than the one of Qualcomm, isn´t it?
So my question:
is the qualcomm a better processor than XScale? Is it also faster? (i know.. 520Mhz vs 400Mhz.. i mean this, like on PCs.. i.e. a Pentium 3 with 300 Mhz is also faster than Pentium 2 with 300 Mhz)
thanxx
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Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745
hi, i try to run android on my htc tytn ii, but haret freeze!! in the "HaRET: Booting Linux ...", i send messages to a file and show this:
HaRET(1)# set MTYPE 1553
HaRET(3)# set KERNEL zImage-kaiser-new.bin
HaRET(5)# set RAMSIZE 0x7800000
HaRET(6)# set RAMADDR 0x10000000
HaRET(11)# set INITRD android.bin
HaRET(15)# bootlinux
boot KERNEL=zImage-kaiser-new.bin INITRD=android.bin
Opening file zImage-kaiser-new.bin
Opening file android.bin
boot params: RAMADDR=10000000 RAMSIZE=07800000 MTYPE=1553 CMDLINE='root=/dev/ram0 ro console=tty0'
Boot FB feedback: 1
Built virtual to physical page mapping
Allocated 5368 pages (tags=56000000/15f34000 kernel=56001000/15f2e000 initrd=56117000/15e1a000 index=574EF000/14a40000)
Built kernel tags area
Built page index
Video buffer at 51B00000 sx=240 sy=320 mx=60 my=53
Video Phys FB=10000000 Fonts=14a39064
Framebuffer overlaps with kernel destination
[email protected]/14a38000 sj=574F7000 stack=574F5000/14a3a000 data=574F6000/14a39000 exec=14a38128
Reading 1138124 bytes...
Read complete
Reading 20804139 bytes...
Read complete
Launching to physical address 14a38010
Trampoline setup ([email protected]/220255f4/107fd5f4)
MMU setup: mmu=A0300000/10600000
Go Go Go...
twice it has worked, not because it fails.
Any idea?
I have used XDA Life with Intel 620mhz & then I used TyTn II, I feel the TyTn II is much better then Life. it has no problem with what so ever while running apps. my vote goes to tytn II.
the sch-i910 is listed to have a Marvell PXA270/PXA312/PXA320 processor
device database on this website suggests it's the PXA320, Microsoft lists the PXA270, several (normally reliable websites) list the PXA312
anyone knows how can I find out for sure ?
thanks for your time!
Bump for a good question.
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Bump for a good question.
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The pxa270 is a 520 MHz
The pxa310 is a 624 MHz
The pxa312 is a 624 MHz as well but for 3.2" 400x 240 res
The pxa320 is a 800 MHz
So I think the sch-i910 has the pxa312 as per the 624 MHz and screen size and res! Hope this helps!
Ravicai, thanks !
dashmaster, I think what you said does make sense, especially considering the difference between 310 and 312
would you reccomed upping the clock speed to 620 ? because I think it's underclocked
for future reference you can use www.pdadb.net to check specifications..
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for future reference you can use www.pdadb.net to check specifications..
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I actually mentioned in my original post that I have checked the "device database" on this website on this website (which is a link to pdadb)
in fact I pretty much went on around 20 different websites, and at the time opinions have split among the aforementioned models
I'm also aware of the fact that Omnia comes in about 8 different models around the world so I made sure to look for i910.
as of today www.pdadb.net was updated and the only versions to carry the PXA320 are the 490 and 495
Thanks for all your help !
Hi everyone,
i want to know if we can change the processors of android phones.
my phone is "olive pad vt 100, running android froyo with a 667 mhz qualcom m7227 processor.
i want to change it to some other more powerful processor like snapdragon 1 mhz or somthing like that.
any kinds of sugesstions(positive or negative) are welcome
thanks you.
PS:
i know this is not the rightplace to post this kind of question.but i've searched google and also other forums in this site. there is no forum related to hardware.
Bryandeep said:
Hi everyone,
i want to know if we can change the processors of android phones.
my phone is "olive pad vt 100, running android froyo with a 667 mhz qualcom m7227 processor.
i want to change it to some other more powerful processor like snapdragon 1 mhz or somthing like that.
any kinds of sugesstions(positive or negative) are welcome
thanks you.
PS:
i know this is not the rightplace to post this kind of question.but i've searched google and also other forums in this site. there is no forum related to hardware.
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Hi, Bryandeep -
While it is technically feasible, if the following is true:
The new processor is from the same chipset family, and
The new processor pinout is identical. and
The support chipsets can handle the higher speeds & currents, and
You can purchase the processor (or, get a manufacturer sample), and
You have access to and the talent for using a surface mount desoldering / soldering station.
... In reality, the answer is "No". You would be much better off (and probably a ton cheaper) to go buy the fastest and most powerful Android tablet that is available on the planet in about 3 months.
That's why you aren't seeing many (any?) posts on CPU "upgrades" for smartphones.
My friend say the amr6 from gio is original 600 mhz with overclocking to 800 mhz (+200 mhz).
Its that true?
Because samsung mini to have 800 mhz have got CyanogenMod 7.1.0 (Android 2.3.7.1) to have 806 mhz, and how can be possible gio have 800 mhz without cyanogen if the amr6 are really overclock.
My i buy in vodafone official shop.
if you look at the technical details of the phone it says:
HARDWARE AND S.O.
S.O.: Android OS
Version: 2.2 Froyo, TouchWiz UI v3.0
Processor: MSM7227-1 Turbo 800 MHz
if I have been helpful, please thanks.
One little question this turbo does mean overcloking but means give more fast cache to cpu right?
yes, when CPU is under high stress the cache is increased as the clock. CPUs have different "slots" with certain clock, when the processor needs to do a lot of work he sets the CPU slot higher in this case 800MHz.
if I have been helpful, please thanks.