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upgrading a rom with windows vista[facts only]

has any one successfully upgraded their device with windows vista?
i read allot about it but it seems no one actually says ;yes i did it!
I'm also receiving PMs asking if it is possible....at the moment i don't know...since i haven't upgraded my PC yet.
please post facts only..so we can end the cofusion once for all.
temporarily stiky....as this will benefit everyone.
if this has been posted before please let me know and i will delete it.

Post 5 here saying it works for him.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292492
The thread is about WMDC 1.0 so not sure if that is necessary or not? He also says he upgraded to Vista from XP sp2.

Run Windows XP within VMWare and flashing that way works. I have read reports of a few people doing this as a last resort, and finding it works perfectly.
I'm not sure how *safe* it is since it virtualises your USB ports, so you may be at risk from bricking, but it does work.

bigyellowdog said:
Post 5 here saying it works for him.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=292492
The thread is about WMDC 1.0 so not sure if that is necessary or not? He also says he upgraded to Vista from XP sp2.
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Hi!
I made the changes suggested in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
Since then I flashed my Universal 2 times with no problems at all.
Because of the change to the hardware driver I don´t think it has anything to do with the fact that I made an upgrade from XP SP2 to Vista.

Worked on Vista for me to upgrade to WM6, but it wouldn't work on my dash to downgrade. Tried for like 2 hours, then tried once on my XP desktop and worked perfectly.

Using VMWare Workstation 6 worked perfectly for me, I must admit I was surprised.

For a moment actually I thought one could actually upgrade their ROM to Vista! OH! How punctuation changes things!

Here's a quick and easy guide to help get you going with windows vista: http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=23&Itemid=27

is it possbile to flash roms with the RUU if ur phones in bootmode..I'm looking to upgrade to vista this is one thing keeping me back..

BUmp anyone?

very helpful advice, thx a lot.
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Software
http://www.popsoftware.net/

Using VMware
I had problems flashing using vista so tried Microsoft's virtual pc 2007 but failed to deliver. I then managed to find the latest version of VMWare Workstation which was much more professional and worked so well I got butterflies.
I used to use an old pc for flashing but no more. It works perfect but please please make sure you download and install Vmware workstation 6 plus as anything other crashes on vista. Trust me been there!
And once you have imaged xp make sure you also install activesync 4.5 for best results.
Good luck and pm me if you have any questions.
the gsmknight

gsmknight said:
I had problems flashing using vista so tried Microsoft's virtual pc 2007 but failed to deliver. I then managed to find the latest version of VMWare Workstation which was much more professional and worked so well I got butterflies.
I used to use an old pc for flashing but no more. It works perfect but please please make sure you download and install Vmware workstation 6 plus as anything other crashes on vista. Trust me been there!
And once you have imaged xp make sure you also install activesync 4.5 for best results.
Good luck and pm me if you have any questions.
the gsmknight
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Helpful hints on where to get VMWare ws plus? ;-)

apphoen said:
Helpful hints on where to get VMWare ws plus? ;-)
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apphoen,
Pm me for link.
gsmknight

Just Posted the mentioned link into my blog:
http://raizam.blogspot.com/2007/06/reversing-back-to-activesync-in-vista.html

faria said:
has any one successfully upgraded their device with windows vista?
i read allot about it but it seems no one actually says ;yes i did it!
I'm also receiving PMs asking if it is possible....at the moment i don't know...since i haven't upgraded my PC yet.
please post facts only..so we can end the cofusion once for all.
temporarily stiky....as this will benefit everyone.
if this has been posted before please let me know and i will delete it.
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i have, i downloaded from microsoft
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?
familyid=46F72DF1-E46A-4A5F-A791-09F07AAA1914&displaylang=en
as i read it if you are using wm6 then vista will work for syncing & with no problems getting into boot loader for upgrading etc. with this update
but maybe not for downgrading to wm5 god forbid?
in my experience using wm6 with active sync 4.5 on xp was temperamental. but using wm5 was fine
i am very new to all this but if this helps anyone then it is a good thing

i updated the rom on my ppc6800 useing vista and it worked without flaw, and this is my first pda sence my old palm,which wasnt a phone,and had a non color screen,so im not an expert with this things.

i done wm6 on o2 xda orbit using vista home premium yesterday
1st time 1st try
worked

I'm running Vista Ultimate and have flashed my phone (charmer) numerous times. IMHO, the best way is if you're using RUU, use VMWare Workstation. If you're flashing using some other method which doesn't put your phone in bootloader mode before beginning to flash, then flash directly from within Vista. In fact, for normal flashing this is my favoured method, i.e. flashing directly from within Vista without making the phone enter bootloader. But then again, if you're flashing official ROMs, you only have RUUs in which case use VMWare Workstation.

ANTC said:
is it possbile to flash roms with the RUU if ur phones in bootmode..I'm looking to upgrade to vista this is one thing keeping me back..
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Yes this can be done. However if your phone is stuck in the bootloader the UNI_ExitBootloader program will NOT run for me. I had to go find a XP machine.

Windows Vista VS Flashing Firmware or Radio ROMs!

Upgrade OS pocket pc (RUU file problem how to solve ) in Windows Vista
First of all, connect your device when it`s in bootloader.
next, open Windows Mobile Device Center and in connection settings uncheck Allou USB Connections.
next, goto contol panel-administrative tools-services and start windows mobile device connectivity and windows mobile device 2003 connectivity
next, goto device manager and find your device and update the driver to the one from AS 4, i attached it, wceusbsh.inf.
then, kill wmdc.exe with any taskmanager
You are Ready. run ruu or connect MTTY. I guess that vista default driver uses another port, not WCEUSBSH001, that`s why we have to use the old driver.
http://mahmood1.com/Documents/USBAS.rar
http://mahmood1.com/Documents/64bit.rar
Best reguards to mahmood

NetrunnerAT said:
First of all, connect your device when it`s in bootloader.
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done.
NetrunnerAT said:
next, open Windows Mobile Device Center and in connection settings uncheck Allou USB Connections.
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done.
NetrunnerAT said:
next, goto contol panel-administrative tools-services and start windows mobile device connectivity and windows mobile device 2003 connectivity
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they were already running
NetrunnerAT said:
next, goto device manager and find your device and update the driver to the one from AS 4, i attached it, wceusbsh.inf.
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in the 64bit.rar there are drivers in the ruu-work-64bit folder and in the wce.zip. i tried both for my vista x64 system.
NetrunnerAT said:
then, kill wmdc.exe with any taskmanager
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i also killed the mobsync.exe
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You are Ready. run ruu or connect MTTY.
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the ruu simply crashes while trying to connect to the device. luckily the flash didn't start yet.

Not that you need this in pictures, but someone may:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252977&st=0&gopid=814012&#entry814012
Anyways, I've got this fix working for the NVID ROM, but it won't work for other RUU-based upgrades, such as the one from PDAMobiz WM6 1.0. Perhaps there are different versions of the RUU utility that require or use different components.
Something else that is odd is that the drivers packaged in the "64 bit" rar are the same ones packaged in the VistaRUU.zip found in the Modaco link above, and which work on my 32-bit OS. So, they may not be 64-bit drivers at all.

Yeah I live in New Zealand and I think the 700wx here are different somehow. For example I don't think mine has a bootloader period.. I tried all 400 ways of getting it into bootloader and all I get is a reset back to normal screen no tricolour.
Weird but unless I can get it into bootloader first I don't think its going to get anywhere. Which my palm 700wx just doesn't have I think.

i managed to do it with vmware on vista. tried all these methods but the programs crashes all the time, luckily not frying my 818pro as well!

I have the same experience. The NVID RUU works, but al others don't. By the way, the NVID also work with only the "old" drivers installed, not dis-allowing USB connection, not starting in bootloader and not killing wmdc.exe.
I don't know for sure, I noticed the RUU Utility version is newer. But when I just switch the nb.nsk file, I get an error, or it crashes just like before. Can it has something to do with the fact that the NVID RUU updates the SPL as well?

floepie said:
Not that you need this in pictures, but someone may:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252977&st=0&gopid=814012&#entry814012
Anyways, I've got this fix working for the NVID ROM, but it won't work for other RUU-based upgrades, such as the one from PDAMobiz WM6 1.0. Perhaps there are different versions of the RUU utility that require or use different components.
Something else that is odd is that the drivers packaged in the "64 bit" rar are the same ones packaged in the VistaRUU.zip found in the Modaco link above, and which work on my 32-bit OS. So, they may not be 64-bit drivers at all.
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Try running command prompt as Admin and type
bcdedit /set nointegritychecks on
Then try again to install the 64 bit driver. It should work

I have just found the answer for Prime2007, i have a telecom treo 700wx and the previous codes for the bootloader didnt work for me either however if you go into your dailpad and press ##8778# your phone will reboot into bootloader also there is not colored strips just the treo logo with some numbers at the top.
If you want to exit without making changes you will have to pull out your battery

Unfortunally this doesn't work, as mentioned, with things such as Radio ROM update only...
If anyone finds out how to make it work for those I'd be greatly appreciative.

hey guys .. i follows all your step . but i still cant run the ruu sucessfull .. help please.. thanks

completed the tutorial exactly, and continued taking the same problem.
I get the same error. Help please.

Do you have a G3 or a G4 device? (G3 seems to work under Vista, G4s do not.)

l3v5y said:
Do you have a G3 or a G4 device? (G3 seems to work under Vista, G4s do not.)
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Is G4 my prophet.
No have a solution?a new utility updater for Vista is posible?
Thanks.

Vista Flashing... Step by step?

Being very computer savvy and having flashed a good 20+ roms, I am completely stumped by the fact that I cannot get the vista flash workaround to WORK! I have faria's wm6 on my wizard and its been acting up so i wanted to try out the Xplore2.0 rom. My Xp laptop is having problems and will not stay connected to AS for long enough for the RUU to connect. I tried the Vista method to no avail. Can someone who has tried it post ALL of the tools needed? I read somewhere that version 2.00.1 of the RUU didnt work, but that is all I am able to find.
Thank you for any and all replies.

Have tried all StepbyStep postings but coudn´t get it running.
Going to AKU3.3 worked without problems - but old RUU using for Core 2.0 for example didn´t work.
So i switched back to xp for a while.
Even VirtualMachine didn´t work for me.
Sorry.

papamopps said:
Have tried all StepbyStep postings but coudn´t get it running.
Going to AKU3.3 worked without problems - but old RUU using for Core 2.0 for example didn´t work.
So i switched back to xp for a while.
Even VirtualMachine didn´t work for me.
Sorry.
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do you think installing xp as a dual boot will help?

I dont really have that option. The laptop I am on has a very small hd and id have to resize it to do that. I DO have an XP laptop, but that laptop is having problems keeping AS connected (its dying).

guys, have you tried this?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252977

nocturne.op.15 said:
guys, have you tried this?
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252977
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This one I was talking about. No way. Sorry.
Not for me.

Yes, that is what i was speaking of in my opening post. And based on a few others replies, something is causing it to not work for some ppl. I am trying to find out what we have in common. My guess is either the rom, or the RUU itself. I am unable to find an older RUU to try with the xplore 2.0 rom thouhg.
Also, I see papamopps browsing the vista flashing tut on modaco Good to see someone else still reading around to find an answer.

Can't get it to work here too. I'm using XP through vmware now.

vippie said:
Can't get it to work here too. I'm using XP through vmware now.
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Is it working with VMware - could get it recognizing the usb port.

please help i beg you!!!

i JUST BOUGHT A NEW O2 EXEC, AND TRIED MY BEST TO UNLOCK cid AND SIM, O2 APPARENTLY SHIP THEM UNLOCKED, SO I TRIED AND IT WAS. TRIED TO cid UNLOCK BUT NO LUCK KEPT GIVING ERRORS. SO I BEGUN THE INSTALL CROSSBOW LATEST, AND IT THEN WAS STUCK ON O2 SPLASH SCREEN, TRIED TO REFLASH WITH THINGONASTRING, NOW ITS STUCK ON BOOTLOADER, SAYING V2.01 AT BOTTOM AND SERIAL OR USB (WHEN CONNECTED), I HAVE LOOKED AND TRIED ALL OPTIONS, I TRIED UNI_EXTBOOTLOADER, AND THE OTHER ONE WHEN I WAS STUCK IN SPLASH SCREEN. NOTHING IS WORKING, THEN I TRIED TO SEE IF I COULD INSTALL OFF CD WITH O2 EXEC, BUT CANNOT FIND RUU. THE ONLY WAY I CAN NOW GET INTO BOOTLOADER IS FIRAT ATTACHING THE USB CABLE THEN BOOTLOADING, I CANNOT DO IT WIHOUT USB CONNECTED, BUT IF I TOOK THE USB OUT AFTER I HAVE GOT IT INTO BOOTLOADER, IT STILL STAYS ON. WHEN I ALSO PRESS THE RESET WHILST USB CONNECTED, THE LIGHT ON O2 EXEC FLASHES RED EACH TIME PRESSED?
ANY HELP WOULD BE GRATEFULL.... COULD THIS BE VISTA??? AS THATS THE OS I USE.

Please help, this is supposed to be a christmas present... i just couldn't help myself!!!!

vistar said:
Please help, this is supposed to be a christmas present... i just couldn't help myself!!!!
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Hi vistar,
Hopefully, you will have it sorted out by Christmas!
Yes, it is Vista problem and you need to change the USB Vista driver in your PC to XP driver.
I don't mean changing the Windows Mobile Device Center to Active Sync 4.5!
But the USB drivers. Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=313001
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader
I believe that the first post should solve your problem. If not try the others. Basically, in Device Manager of your PC, the USB driver should be the old XP driver dated 2004!
Any other year won't do you good!
Merry Christmas!
Happy New Year!
KOR!

It is highly recommended NOT to use Vista ... even with the proposed driver patch.
I have developed a Radio ROM issue because of this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=347375
If you are using Vista, it is highly recommended for you to use Virtualisation and install XP.
I have been using XP under VMware forever without problems as far as flashing my Qtek is concerned ... until my Vista mis-adventure that is. I know that VMWare is not free, but you may want to give http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx a try.

I flash my two Universal at least once a day under Vista with no problems at all.
Flashing Radio, CE ROM and ExtROM with Vista hasn't created any problem for me.
Vista like XP automatically install latest update from Microsoft site, this update also includes drivers too.
Just before flashing make sure that your old 2004 driver is not changed to the latest 2006 or 2007 driver!
That's all folks,
KOR!

will try the threads above thanks, i have tried in vista, and also i use vmware too, with xp pro spâ. which seems to work better but get error ăđă, radio update error, i think i have wiped the radio??? as when the first screen comes up it says:
from,
Radio:
EXT Rom:
Bla bla:
to:
Radio: 2.?.??
EXT Rom: 2.2.??
Bla bla: 2.2.??
I cant remember what numbers came up, but it was blank at top and version numbers at bottom.
any help would be grateful

ok i got it to work , through vmware, i ran PsiDOC_WM5_20041_Taster, which worked think its WM̀ still but its back on, I want WM̉ though, i'll try again.. some advice wouldn't go a miss. thanks.
Note: If anyone has problems blame vista..... Good OS, Bad PDA Partner...

ok every rom i try fails with the following: Error 114, Radio Rom Upgrade error.
why is this??? i have looked through the wiki and forum, people have had this problem before, but no answers.
I have this when WM5 loads up,
1.09.00
42.42.p8
2.00.41 WWE
and bootloader v2.01 (G4)
just incase this info is needed.
thanks, i will leave it on WM5 till an answer is given, preferably before christmas...lol.
thanks guys for at least helping me.

vistar said:
thanks, i will leave it on WM5 till an answer is given, preferably before christmas...lol.
thanks guys for at least helping me.
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If you have tried all the links I have given, you could have easily upgraded the ROM to Windows Mobile 6.
Read carefully, my above post #3.
Did you know that you could just flash the CE ROM (Main ROM), if the Radio is not flashing.
KOR!

KOR support center !!!

How do i Flash that alone? do i just remove the radio file from the WM6 folder and run RUU again??? just to confirm...
Thanks M8 much appreciated.

vistar said:
How do i Flash that alone? do i just remove the radio file from the WM6 folder and run RUU again??? just to confirm...
Thanks M8 much appreciated.
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Read the four links, I have given you.
1. nk.nbf (CE ROM - Main ROM)
2. ms_.nbf (Extended ROM - Storage ROM)
3. radio_.nbf (Radio ROM)
If the ROM is in .exe format, than excute the ROM without hooking your universal to the PC. In the temporary folder, you will find all the files.
Read,
KOR!

sorry what i meant was how do i flash the files to the device??? i have all the files ready..
do i remove radio from folder then execute RRU? or do i use a different way?

Thanks for your support KOR!!!
the later worked perfectly on my G4 device, i ran the update without the device attached, put into bootloader, and found all files in temp directory, then removed the radio file. connected the bootloaded device, then ran the update, it worked straight away, only in xp/vmware though.
Thankyou..... I really mean that KOR..

vistar said:
Thanks for your support KOR!!!
the later worked perfectly on my G4 device, i ran the update without the device attached, put into bootloader, and found all files in temp directory, then removed the radio file. connected the bootloaded device, then ran the update, it worked straight away, only in xp/vmware though.
Thankyou..... I really mean that KOR..
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Hi Vistar,
You are welcome. If you download the drivers from the first link in post #3, then you can use Vista without any problems to flash your device.
Just make sure that the driver is dated 2004 before flashing the device. Check the driver for the Portable Devices ->USB Disk in the Device Manager of your PC.
Best Regards,
KOR!
BTW, I did reply to your PM.

King of Rapture™ said:
I flash my two Universal at least once a day under Vista with no problems at all.
Flashing Radio, CE ROM and ExtROM with Vista hasn't created any problem for me.
Vista like XP automatically install latest update from Microsoft site, this update also includes drivers too.
Just before flashing make sure that your old 2004 driver is not changed to the latest 2006 or 2007 driver!
That's all folks,
KOR!
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Perhaps that's because both your Unis are G3 - and mine is a G4.

Stuck on the "boot" screen

Hi,
I tried to upgrade the ROM, unfortunately we had a power cut (sod's law haha) and my PC cut out. Now when I try to turn my XDA on (o2 exec) all I get is a dark screen with USB at the top and V1.01, I've tried the recovery tool included in the update but obviously didn't work because windows doesn't recognise the device.
Any ideas would be MASSIVELY appreciated.
btw I've tried doing a hard reset and pressing 0 but it just resets the device to the above screen =/
Thanks,
Lee

Just Re-Run The Rom Upgrade Utility And Reflash The Rom.
Regards,
OllieD

Tried that several times, the problem is that Vista isn't recognising the device thus the rom flash can't find it. Ive been through all the Wiki how-to's with no avail

Ive Never Flashed With Vista And Never Will.
I Read There Was Issues And Didnt Think It Was Worth The Risk.
Its Never Wise To Run Flashing Software In An OS It Wasnt Designed For.
Anyway Flash With XP And Your Problems Will Be Gone.
I Dont Think XP Even Recognises The Device When Its In Bootloader The Flashing Software Just Knows What To Do, Although The Software Wasnt Designed With Vista In Mind.
Regards,
OllieD

leedavid said:
Tried that several times, the problem is that Vista isn't recognising the device thus the rom flash can't find it. Ive been through all the Wiki how-to's with no avail
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There are some year 2004 XP drivers available for Vista. Do a search and you will find it.
It is too late and I am tired. If you can't find it then I will try to help you later.
Good luck and don't worry as nothing is wrong with your device. Wrong drivers for PC.
KOR!

If nothing else works, try using mtty to erase the device, and reflash!
Oh, and word of advice: Never flash with Vista, it f.cks your device! Always do your falshing with XP, that's the most stable out there...

mzalan said:
If nothing else works, try using mtty to erase the device, and reflash!
Oh, and word of advice: Never flash with Vista, it f.cks your device! Always do your falshing with XP, that's the most stable out there...
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I always flash my devices on Vista, and never had any problems. Though, you have to have proper XP 2004 year driver installed.
KOR!

leedavid said:
Tried that several times, the problem is that Vista isn't recognising the device thus the rom flash can't find it. Ive been through all the Wiki how-to's with no avail
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Do you try to flash via a hub connection? Because it's recommended to connect the device directly to the PC!

brother go to this link your problem is fixed
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader
or this
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Uni_Stuck_Bootloader_Serial
respectfully

King of Rapture™ said:
I always flash my devices on Vista, and never had any problems. Though, you have to have proper XP 2004 year driver installed.
KOR!
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well, yeah. but in that case, I could argue that the driver, which counts, is from XP
But anyway, most people here would recommend against flashing in Vista, unless you must. XP is just a lot more stable, and causes fewer problems. but let's not get into which is better, shall we?

help!!!!!
hey guys, ive been stuck in this bootloader thing for ages now its been a day ive had no luck so far im using vista myself and there is no XP computer available to me unfortunately. the mtty utility says cannot open ports, im not using a hub either and the unit_exitbootloader.exe does not help either i need some serious help please. the screen is stuck at USB on the top (whe i take out the usb cable it says Serial on top) and v1.00 on the bottom. please help, ive got vodafone v1640 version of universal. thanks in advance