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Hey all,
Stop me if you've heard this one
some of the new roms are downloading my sent items from gmail into my inbox. I've never had this issue with any of the 6.0 roms. Anyone seen this or know how to fix it? I've always used pop because I dont like imap and have never seen this before.
I am currently using 3.14.DK.01 UC 2.0 Compliant WM6.1 Lite ROM, but I have also seen this on the UDK 6.1 rom as well
~Rick
The "fix" for this is to put in a fake email address right from the start. Let it fail the setup and then just edit the account after to what you need. Just an fyi though, this "fix" doesn't always seem to work. For receiving it is always fine but sometimes it doesn't send properly at all. There are other threads about this but I didn't bother to bookmark them. Another supposed fix is to put imap.gmail.com instead of smtp.gmail.com in the settings...I haven't tried this one.
same here
that isn't what he meant. gmail is working fine. all messages download perfect no problems there. but whenever a message is sent it saves a copy of it in the inbox. does anybody know how to make this stop?
I've tried the fake email and then manually configuring it, it didnt work on any of the other roms, I will try this tomorrow on this one. As far as the imap, I dont want to use IMAP, I like the way pop used to work. I mean if I have to I will but I want to try to get this to work the way it used to first.
This is the default behavior for gmail, it does the same thing if you use a POP email client like outlook or thunderbird from your desktop. I have never seen a real fix for it, on my desktop i used to create a rule that would move messages that were from me to my sent items folder. The only way I have been able to fix it on windows mobile was to set up gmail as imap.
yeah this is because gmail uses a thread type of system. As chambersaj said this happens on desktops too, as well WM 5.0 to 6.1 (all that I have used)
OK So on the rom I am using now, I entered a fake e-mail address to prevent it from auto-configuring, and now it works the way it used to. I know it does that for the outlook client, and thats fine, but it never used to do this on wm6, maybe it was just the luck of the draw for the roms I used.
Hi all,
I am not sure whether I am completely right now, but I am quite sure I have never seen an entry called "PUSH" in my Outlook mail accounts list on my Vox before.
But now it is there, along with my ActiveSync account, a Windows Live account and 3 imap accounts.
I cannot access any settings nor can I delete it.
Does anybody know what it is for? And where it comes from?
Many thanks and have a lovely day
Andi
AndiP said:
Hi all,
I am not sure whether I am completely right now, but I am quite sure I have never seen an entry called "PUSH" in my Outlook mail accounts list on my Vox before.
But now it is there, along with my ActiveSync account, a Windows Live account and 3 imap accounts.
I cannot access any settings nor can I delete it.
Does anybody know what it is for? And where it comes from?
Many thanks and have a lovely day
Andi
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Push mail is instant mail. You get it when you connect to a exchange server.
Just another question...
Hi,
many thanks for the answer. I am aware what pushmail is.
Just I was concerned as I have for sure not set up this "PUSH" account. But now it is there.
Is it automatically created whenever I configure my exchange account for push mail? Is this the secret behind?
I was just surprised as of why this is not hidden or so, as there is no obvious use for it.
Thanks
Andi
hey guys even i have the same thing..it occured suddenly in my s710...can anyone explain me what is that clearly..
i got the same, and the strange thing is that when i configured an exchange server, that one was added as outlookmail and still there is an empty push item!
???
Did you install the jb5 browser recently? This installs a WAP Push account which appears in the mail application, in the settings of this browser you can disable it and after a soft reboot the account disappears.
you are totally right my friend!
I tried to install jb5. that didnt work because I got an 'installation unsuccesful', but since then the pushmail is there.
do you know how to install/deinstall jb5 on wm6.1?
so, I cannot use the jb5 browser to delete the push mail. You know how to do it manually?
I've not been able to install it since upgrading to WM6.1, however, for me, the unsuccessful install didn't add the account to the Mail app. I have no idea how to get rid of accounts that can't be accessed apart from the obvious of a hard reset...
Solved !!!
Hi,
thank you very much. Yes, I have installed JB5 browser and this was exactly the root cause.
Now I removed it successfully and I am happy again.
Great community here, many thanks!!!
BR
Andi
I just flashed the
OTP v7.6 Biggy with phonecanvas and I LOVE IT!
However, I am trying to setup @gmail it goes to automatic setup and finishes and it does not work. I changed where it automatically had put smtp in the incoming server and it still does not work. I cant even set it up manually.
Sam thing with my @msn email account used to setup automatically in original Wing ROM but now it only gives me a link to browse to check my email on the pocket browser (in this case Opera Mini).
Any solution?
Ok, I was able to fix the gmail problem, in case anyone else has an issue:
Just start off by pretending you dont have gmail but have gggmail like i did. in the first step if your email is
[email protected][B]gmail.com[/B] for instance just type in
[email protected][B]gggmail.com[/B]
then the stupid software will give you the option not to search for automatic setting that is screwing up the email (probably Gmail doing it on purpose since the Andriod is out).
I have not tried the msn yet but I will.
MODs please feel free to delete this thread!
Ok, Gmail is fixed.
MSN does NOT work anymore I guess from what I understand (I am not a paying member so I dont get pop3, I dont know how I was getting it before)
Yahoo however is giving away free POP3 in certain countries, and the new email address is @ymail.com, so just go to this site: http://uk.yahoo.com/ and then sign up for a new account in UK and later chnage your location to US. he POP3 is in the email section under options, pop and forwarding. Good luck!
for MSN i'm sure you could always install windows live, though that will eat up another 3mb of precious memory on the phone
Thanks!
Thanks. My Gmail kept defaulting to imap - even though I changed it back to POP on the server level and it was driving me nuts. That is a pretty stupid move on WinMobile's part to not give us the "manual" configuration option up front.
Shep
My Fuze auto configures for yahoo and goes to a imap.mail.yahoo.com server, it works like an IMAP champ.
I then configure my Outlook for the same settings and I keep getting the UserName/Password entry box. I know I have the settings the same as the phone and the correct username/password.
Any tips? Imap for my Yahoo would be awesome on Outlook.
I am kind of answering my own question here. Looks like Imap Yahoo has a way to verify an id of the device type before it allows connection. So apparently wm6.1 mail app sends what it needs to Yahoo Imap Mobile but Outlook does not.
Damn, I was looking at doing that as well. I hope they open it up!
Hi,
Surely there must be a way to fake this via Outlook, anyone?
Not that I have ever found. I made a full conversion over to Gmail as a result and low and behold it was a huge pain in the ass and I now have to monitor two email addresses.
Hey,
Thanks for the reply. From what I understand, Yahoo servers require a specific, but non-standard IMAP command to be sent before login is done. The command is: “ID ("GUID" "1")”. Rumor is that its easy to modify the client to send it. Mutt and Mozilla Thunderbird already have a modded version. Furthermore, YPOPSs! and FreePOPs also use this command.
Can anyone provide some insight as to how we would go about modifying the connection string Outlook uses?
I guess this would be similar to configuring your browser to present itself as a different client - something that is very easily done.
Thanks!
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
jean-luc said:
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
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Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks
jean-luc said:
I would also strongly appreciate a solution for this...
Somehow it should be possible to make "desktop Outlook" behave like its mobile counterpart. At least as an option...
I have found this on the web describing the issue:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahoo!_Mail#Free_IMAP_and_SMTPs_access
Does someone know how to incorporate the sending of the described ID string into Outlook as well as it seems to be present in the mobile version??
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ok .
psolunke said:
Actually Yahoo IMAP does not recognize ur phone/pc..
If u want it to use on pc pl make sure that u selected download only headers option then only it wroks
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This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above.
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.
I agree with Jean Luc. When using a mobile device to access the Yahoo IMAP server, any and all options work as they should. However, when using Outlook via non-mobile computer, it doesn't work.
Clearly Yahoo has implemented a filter on the connection string Outlook is sending to prevent users from using IMAP. I believe the fix should be relatively easy. Can anyone provide some insight on this?
jean-luc said:
This is NOT true. I have tried downloading only headers and still the same problem: On the PC Outlook fails to connect correctly to the IMAP server due to the problem described on the page I have linked to above.
With mobile Outlook on the phone downloading headers as well as content via IMAP works perfectly.
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bump from the ages for a damn solution!
MS Technical info found...need help applying
Just happened to be searching more generally for this myself today for my desktop Outlook having got used to IMAP on my WM6.5.3 Energy ROM and wanting better that 'leave mail for x days' POP3 options (Specifically I want my desktop sent items to sync up to Yahoo mail like then do when sending from my phone so in and out boxes are all in 1 place)
Found this MS Technical info page that seems to give all the info needed on how to get Outlook to send custom properties, it's just I don't have enough knowledge of RegEditing to get this right ;(
Changes to custom properties in Outlook - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907985
Scroll down to just over half way on the page and start reading from 'Not recommended: Use the AllowNamedProps registry key'
That suggests you can edit your CurrentUser registry values to permanently send pre values as part of each recieve something along:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\11.0\Outlook\AllowedNamedProps\{00020329-0000-0000-C000-000000000046} "Kind"=dword:00000000 "ID"=dword:00000001
???
Although I presume that the {000...00046} GUID is Machine or User specific and that's the bit I'm not sure what to set for my install, think I worked out the other bits.
Anyone with better Windows Registry knowledge able to help out?
Found working Yahoo IMAP 'incoming' proxy
In my continued searches I came across the following IMAP proxy which acts between Outlook and Yahoo to insert the necessary GUID 1 string as part of it's call to Yahoo's server, and would do that same for any other IMAP capable client at http://www.ameir.net/blog/archives/43-Yahoo!-Mail-IMAP-Proxy.html
Using the Windows download of this tool on Windows 7 with Outlook 2003 (Odd combination I know!) I was able to get Yahoo IMAP email and all folders to appear within Outlook where I thought I was onto a real winner!
Unfortunately it looks like either the proxy or my setup didn't fully support 2 way IMAP as I wasn't able to drag any local email up into the IMAP account as I should have been able to do.
It did however allow me to pull down server copies of Sent items from both Yahoo Webmail 'Sent' and WM Device 'Sent Items' folders and just drag and drop them into my normal Outlook default Sent Items so those were all together again.
Setup was pretty simple for what I got working:
1) Download and unzip the file in the Windows archive from that page above
2) Run the .exe included with those extracted files to open a DOS window running the proxy
3) In Outlook configure a new IMAP email account but set incoming IMAP to 'localhost' then in advanced settings make sure incoming port is 3490. Setup all other fields as you'd normally expect and with Yahoo normal SMTP server address.
4) Outlook will add a new tree for that account in left hand 'Mail Folders' view, just click around and explore. If no sub folders appear right click on root and choose 'Update Folders'
Hope that helps someone, and as code for this proxy is open source maybe someone could work out how to embed this customisation direct within Outlook so IMAP should then work fully 2 way?
Will keep my fingers crossed someone with suitable skills sees this thread as would really like to move into an IMAP world now I know how much better than POP3 it is!!!
A special thanks to Howshall for the research!
I have tried adding those registry entries in an effort to get Outlook to send the custom command, but it doesn't seem to be sending it when looking at the outgoing packets. Can anyone offer some insight? Thanks.
hi, just wondering whether anyone's had this annoying problem. it's windows mobile 6 and the problem is adding an email account. i had a previous email account linked to pop/smtp in which i could not edit account options, so i deleted the account. now, when i go to start -> programs -> messaging -> menu -> tools -> new account, nothing happens. i.e i cant add a new email messenging account. there's no error message...
can anyone assist?!
which device do you have?
an htc cruise.
How may messaging accounts do you have already? This includes SMS, MMS and the standard Outlook. There is a maximun number, think it's 7.
an active sms account. and the outlook and email sample ones which i dont use
so, 3 existing ones
Thats not it then, i have SMS and 5 email accounts and the option to add another is still there.
5???
thats a lot
-PiLoT- said:
5???
thats a lot
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2 domain based POP3, one Hotmail, one gmail and one mail2web. The penalty, i suppose, of having a split personality on line. I have a work related profile and a personal one.
Hehe, i also use 2 Gmails and 2 POP3.. and sometimes hotmail, messenger dependent.
anyways, try this:
delete whatever accounts you have on your device and delete any pc partnerships on your device. pair your device with your PC again and then try creating an account. if this doesn't work, i suggest creating a _setup.xml file which will be cabbed containing your email preferences. If the first solution doesn't work, let me know and i'll guide you thru creating that cab file.
deedee said:
2 domain based POP3, one Hotmail, one gmail and one mail2web. The penalty, i suppose, of having a split personality on line. I have a work related profile and a personal one.
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im too selfish to have a splt personalty
many thanks for the solution however, i did a hard reset already since i needed to desperately check email whilst on the road. it's a pain since i have no idea what corrupted it..
touchwood it doesnt happen again but if it does i'll be sure to try the solution proposed!
many thanks again!
nir36 said:
Hehe, i also use 2 Gmails and 2 POP3.. and sometimes hotmail, messenger dependent.
anyways, try this:
delete whatever accounts you have on your device and delete any pc partnerships on your device. pair your device with your PC again and then try creating an account. if this doesn't work, i suggest creating a _setup.xml file which will be cabbed containing your email preferences. If the first solution doesn't work, let me know and i'll guide you thru creating that cab file.
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cheers. be safe.