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Should I upgrade? Please help me decide...

Hey all,
My wizard is about 1 year old, and I'm getting the need for an upgrade.
I was thinking about trying a WM6 ROM, but can't decide if I should.
My question really are:
1. Is it worth it? Will it feel any different than WM5, other than just new look?
2. What are the chances of bricking the device during the upgrade?
Thanks a lot..

kramerica2 said:
Hey all,
My wizard is about 1 year old, and I'm getting the need for an upgrade.
I was thinking about trying a WM6 ROM, but can't decide if I should.
My question really are:
1. Is it worth it? Will it feel any different than WM5, other than just new look?
2. What are the chances of bricking the device during the upgrade?
Thanks a lot..
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Let me just say that in January I was ready to throw my Wizard (8125) in the trash. I hated the phone as it was the worst purchase I ever made. It was unreliable, dropped calls, and reset for no reason all the time. It became for me just a PDA, and even then one I barely used since it would reset everytime I started to really need it (or so it seemed). My Nokia 6620 was far more reliable and useful than my 8125 ever was (but due to contracts and prices, getting a new replacement wasn't really an option for me, but I did figure out how to SIM unlock my Nokia 6620 so I was looking at going back to it). Since I had decided to go back to the 6620, I remembered hearing about people flashing custom roms on their Wizard devices, and decided to come back to XDA-Dev (I had found it last September but the term "brick" scared me off), and give it a shot. What was the worst that could happen? Brick it? I was ready to trash it anyway so who cared.
I read everything and decided to give the Faria AKU3.3 a try (WM6 was brand new out and I was intemidated by things I was reading). After I successfully CID Unlocked and then flashed the Tmobile 2.26 rom (which I found hilarious on a Cingular device) I then did AKU 3.3. All I can say is, the rest is history. My eyes were opened. Suddenly this phone became what it was supposed to have been when I bought it. It was fast and reliable. All of my issues (resets, hangs, and dropped calls) were all gone!
So at a minimum, CID Unlock (if you ahve a G3) and put a custom WM5 rom on. You will NOT be disappointed...
But then the ROM flashing bug took over and I'm firmly into WM6 now. I don't think I can ever think about going back to WM5. I just like the feel and ease of things in WM6 (but at first some things I did not like so it takes time to get used to some of the changes).
So good luck in what you decide. Most claim after upgrading to mine (or many other of the custom roms here) that their phone has new life and it stalls the need to switch to buying a new device... Yeah, I'll probably move to an 8525 (Hermes) sometime, but right now my little Wizard is my best buddy and as important to me as my work computer. I use it for everything now...

mfrazzz said:
Let me just say that in January I was ready to throw my Wizard (8125) in the trash. I hated the phone as it was the worst purchase I ever made. It was unreliable, dropped calls, and reset for no reason all the time. ...
I read everything and decided to give the Faria AKU3.3 a try (WM6 was brand new out and I was intemidated by things I was reading). After I successfully CID Unlocked and then flashed the Tmobile 2.26 rom (which I found hilarious on a Cingular device) I then did AKU 3.3. All I can say is, the rest is history. My eyes were opened. Suddenly this phone became what it was supposed to have been when I bought it. It was fast and reliable. All of my issues (resets, hangs, and dropped calls) were all gone!
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Hmmm... this is a good piece of history. Can it go into the ROM flashers anonymous thread? Please...
kernelguy

dont be mean but...

this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay

jayjay8585 said:
this is my first ever post and i have a feeling it may piss a few people off. i have a tytn II in the uk on orange and i want to upgrade to 6.1. Ive rang orange and they said they havent got a clue of the new update so keep an eye on htc.com
since there was no update there i went to microsofts site and there was a page showing all of the features of the new upgrade but no download button. and it didnt say 6.1 was on its way they said it was here. (on the page)
im assuming ive now made a very redundant thread as i didnt read any post beforehand. but please dont be mean to me
could please update me availability as to were i can get the official 6.1 rom
thank you jayjay
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There is no OFFICIAL 6.1 rom. Just test and cooked roms.

oh ok then so why are microsoft advertising this as a release when its an up and coming
it diffenatley says 6.1 has arrived

I think Microsoft are done with the rom but not HTC or the operators.

No official ROM with WM6.1 is released as of this moment.
It depends on your OEM (Orange I guess) whether you will get an official WM6.1 update.
HTC has promised they will release a new ROM based on WM6.1 (and it will include something of a driver or stuff...). But it is intended for original unbranded HTC devices. It will be released later (this month?).
If you would really want WM6.1, the best option is to flash a cooked ROM. Most recent ones are WM6.1 based.
Don't look at Microsoft for ROM upgrades, that's not their duty.

does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters

jayjay8585 said:
does that mean they wont be letting it go from there website until htc has started releasing it, what about the uk operaters
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Correct. MS will NOT release a WM 6.1 ROM for anyone to download and install. Only the phone vendors (HTC, Orange, AT&T) release such ROMS.

The release of WM6.1 by Microsoft was a Release-To-Manufacturer (RTM) event. Ofcourse Microsoft puts this information on their site. It isn't really their intention of teasing you (I presume at least).
I takes some time for the OEMs to finalize a ROM with WM6.1. That's why there is a time interval between the MS announcement and the actual release.
What about UK operators? No idea...

cool so does anyone have the date of the release are is it speculation up until now, all of the websites i am reading say that htc will be releasing the rom mid may

No one really knows. If we did, everyone would have been really happy. HTC had promised a while ago they would be releasing a fix for the graphics problem somewhere near the end of March. It was never released.
Although I have all confidence in HTC and the sites reporting the impending ROM release, we'll never know the exact release date until the ROM is released.
If it's really such a big deal for you, start flashing!

well it does but my major issue is
a) i dont kno how to do it
b) will over write all my data
c) will it take away all my presets and settings
d) will invalidate my warranty
e) i thort microsoft were trying to take all the roms down

and last nite i seen a youtube clip of a person with a windows mobile 6.1 rom on a tytn II is this american

He was probably using a custom ROM...
Regarding your issues:
a) There is really enough info on this site which clearly explanes how to do it. It should be no problem really.
b) It will indeed reset all your settings and data. Some programs are designed to back up some of your data. Pim Backup is an example which backs up your PIM data.
c) see b)
d) It does, but it can be reverted. There is a thread regarding the issue.
e) Than enjoy it while you still can...

like someone said, there are leaked roms on this site, they're not official, but over here, that's plenty official enough for us
most of your questions can be answered by reading the first sticky in the forum, and/or the wiki, which i advise you to do so. once you are done with that, you will understand this rom upgrading process a lot more

imo cooked roms by chefs here at xda r so much better than oem roms so i don't even know why u would want the oem ..

does mean the eventual official rom will delete all the stuff too
im just pissed off coz with the programs ive got running ive got the best setup ive had
i used freestyl but there was too many bugs so now i use ifonz and s2u2
ive got all my cabs backed up tho which is good
my poroblems with my micro sd are worst
bought a 6gb micro sdhc off amazon, which only showed up as 1.69 gb after researching i got theat pnanasonic formatter thingy and then it worked fine, then it just stopped working. ive got a claim in with amazon to get the money back
still dont know wether it was a fake or not

Make no mistake, upgrading any ROM will completly reset your device.
If you would ever start flashing, there are tools which allow automated installations of CABs. In that way, you can get your device up and running in a very short period of time.
Tools that come to mind ar UC (user customization) and the tools provided by XDA-member Bengalih.
Better luck next time with your microSDHC card...

i just hope it get resolved

does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet

jayjay8585 said:
does anyone kno the telltale signs of a fake micro sdhc. apart from the fact that it ceases to work after a while. it came in the origional packet
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if it works once you probably don't have a fake, you may need to reformat the sdhc, also a lot of older roms have issues with sdhc. On your original note, jump in man the cooked roms are great. Google xda pim backup, download pim backup and backup your stuff (or just use activesync), Use Olipro to safeguard your device, and then flash a cooked rom, I recomend Dutty's April 29, read the wiki before you flash, your phone will become so much more useful, give it a try.

Should I trade in my Fuze for a Bold?

I'm deciding whether or not to trade in my Fuze for a Bold.
The Fuze is nice, but I don't know if I can stand Windows Mobile anymore.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks

well gotta give it to a Bold that it's design is timeless
and last for a long time and can handle some absuse

Can't stand Windows Mobile? Are you using a stock AT&T ROM? If so, that's your problem.

Thats funny I had the Bold 2 days before release and couldn't wait for the Fuze to be released so I could trade it in for a Fuze. Honestly the new crackberry is nice and all don't get me wrong but the Fuze and WM is so much more flexable, not the stock ROM mind you. First thing I did was Hard-SPL and get a cooked ROM. If your running around with AT&T's stock ROM your doing it wrong, completely wrong.

Im due for an upgrade and im on the fence between the bold and the fuze , i currently have a tilt and curve

Sebrina said:
Thats funny I had the Bold 2 days before release and couldn't wait for the Fuze to be released so I could trade it in for a Fuze. Honestly the new crackberry is nice and all don't get me wrong but the Fuze and WM is so much more flexable, not the stock ROM mind you. First thing I did was Hard-SPL and get a cooked ROM. If your running around with AT&T's stock ROM your doing it wrong, completely wrong.
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I agree with you, but I think there's a good point to be made here: it shouldn't be that way. You shouldn't *need* to hack your device for it to be usable.

like i tell all the customers in my store.
if you email alot, get blackberry.
if you do everything get htc.

jasongw said:
I agree with you, but I think there's a good point to be made here: it shouldn't be that way. You shouldn't *need* to hack your device for it to be usable.
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I have the Fuze now and used to have the bold when it came out for testing and as far as usable they both are usable from the start. The difference between the two is that with Windows Mobile you can enhance the phone and taylor it to your liking by changing the rom, adding cabs, modifying the OS etc...but with the bold and blackberry in general there is only so much you can do. I do however think that it is the best blackberry yet (have not used the Storm yet) and if you seek flexibility WM is your best bet.

Thanks everyone.
I actually used RomeOS for a while, but i reverted back to the stock ATT rom just in case I decide to get the bold. I have several weeks before my month is up, maybe i'll wait and see. My only gripe is that the phone menu is a bit sluggish. Is this b/c of TF3D or WinMobile itself?

attnoob said:
like i tell all the customers in my store.
if you email alot, get blackberry.
if you do everything get htc.
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+1
so true

I wondered the same thing. I ended up getting and keeping both though. I send and receive a lot of emails daily but I also do the other stuff. They complement each other nicely but what drove me to testing and eventually owning a Blackberry was that I became obsessive with tweaking, customizing, and installing things on my Touch Pro. I would spend HOURS each day on here searching and installing until I made the phone unstable. Hard reset and was back at it again. So the Blackberry was my way of saving my from myself, especially since it is on a platform that I'm not very familiar with. But both are great phones. The best way to decide would probably be to try them both out if at all possible.

i think Dieter Bohn from WMexperts states it best. He temporarily swapped his Fuze for a bold from the guys at crackberry.com and he says something along the lines that while using the bold he finds he constantly has to adapt himself to the BB os which is opposite to WM experience where you adapt it to your needs.
and to enrique999, i was under the exact same circumstances, always late to dinners or parties because i had to update an app, or customize it just to how i wanted the device after a hard reset or rom upgrade.. i was gonna get the bold but it took to long to come out so i got an e71. Now i use my WM device during the week, and e71 during the weekend

tilt continues to restart

Howdy - So after much reading and fretting I finally installed my first ROM the newest Dutty one I believe. It was working well most of the day and installed a few programs and now the darn thing just continues to reboot. Can I try to reflash it even though it keeps restarting? Any thoughts or other threads on this subject?
My phone is the HTC Tilt from ATT - just got it a month ago.
Thanks
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I was able to reflash with a new ROM by restarting while holding down camera button and power button. Admin's can delete this question if that is a total newb thing to do.

When I first got my tytn II (off ebay) it was doing the same thing.
I sent it into htc's repair center to see what they could do for it, this was before I knew about XDA and the immense amout of information on here.
If I new better I probably could have tried fixing it myself.
All in all they said it had water damage and charged me up the wazzoo for a new motherboard and labor.
That's the end of my story.
Glad you got it fixed!
Keep it cool.

Orbit 2 ROMs and Tomtom

I have just upgraded from O2 XDA Orbit 1 to 2 and would like to update the ROM, would like to get some advice before I do...
can I use the WWE 6.1 Update from HTC to update and "de-brand" my phone or do I need to use the O2 version ?
I was using Artemis Touch 3.0.1 Lite (With Mobile 6.1) on my old phone, and i love the look and the functionality of it, I was hoping the Orbit 2 was the same sort of thing but quicker and more stable, from a lot of posts here it seems that isn't the case ? Is there a cooked ROM that is as stable and functional as 3.0.1 Lite or should I stick with the factory ROM ?
What about Tomtom ? Version 6.01 does everything I want, is there any point in going to 7, ie fresher maps or whatever ?
What are peoples recommendations for making sure the jog dial rubber ring stays in place ? Is it worth pulling it off and fixing it on with superglue or gasket silicone or something else ?
Also, should I hang on to my old Orbit for a few weeks - just in case ...
looking forward to spending some more time on XDA-devs..
GF

If i were you i would go definitely to orbit 2, its fast and has every fetaures that you will need day by day.
You can flash cooked rooms to your taste.
About the tomtom, yes its worth upgrading too, the new tomtom7 has more improvements, and the maps are more detailed and more updated. Im going just to warn you , DONT REQUEST NO MAPS in this forum you will get banned.

good point
mikeisback69 said:
If i were you i would go definitely to orbit 2, its fast and has every fetaures that you will need day by day.
You can flash cooked rooms to your taste.
About the tomtom, yes its worth upgrading too, the new tomtom7 has more improvements, and the maps are more detailed and more updated. Im going just to warn you , DONT REQUEST NO MAPS in this forum you will get banned.
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yes warez are no allowed @ this forum
welcome to the forum

Well thanks for the info. I did get my Orbit 2... and surprise surprise the rubber ring ws missing...
And so I started on a painful run of trying to get a nice clean ROM similar to Meschle's Touch ROM on the Orbit. I chose an older ROM, Bepe's (Polaris_WWE_0.67_Standard_bepe) and thought hell, in for a penny, Id upate the Radio at the same time , as trawling through this forum heard good reports about the recent update Polaris_Radio_1.64.08.21 . Well I have now reflashed about 15 times, 3 different ROMs and 5 different Radios, trying to get one which WORKED... I mean it all looked good but either reception was awful or the speaker would buzz horribly, and the speaker would go off altogether. I went through all the radios, then went back to O2's original 6.1 update, and even then something was up with the reception/speaker. I thought that I had been sold a lemon. I thought ah hell lets try one of the recent ROMS, I had happened to download Syrius R4, and fook me, what a piece of work, and I love the Manila, all I can say is congratulations on an amazing ROM. I don't care for clean any more. I will even live with the dodgy looking clock. Because it is like the eye-phone in that it just works, and its all just logical, I love it ! Even text entry is superb with the new QWERTY keyboard. The radio is now at 1.59.42.15, and that seems rock solid, gps fix times are good, TT7 up and running, migrated traffic from old machine, came back here to say thanks udK !!
Oh yeah and after using the phone for 1 day I managed to crack the digitizer , in the top right corner, but it all seems to be working fine, I won't be forking out £60 for the repair till I REALLY need to...
gf

Thank to hear you that everythng it sorted out. its really a magnificent mobile. Do you till got that buzzy sound from the speaker? And that about the digitalizer thats bad, cause its more fragile now, if you have the mobile in your pocket and you apply more pressure u can break the rest of it