Hi all, based on my experience of flashing various different ROMs, most of the ROM shouldn't have the battery drain issue. However, I discovered some times after flashing a new ROM the device gets much warmer and the battery drains very quickly.
When this happens the best solution is to shutdown the device, pull the battery out for 5 minutes or so to let it cool down. Then put it back and turn on the device and the battery drain problem should be resolved.
I haven't been able to find the reason behind that but it does make a big difference. With one of the ROM I flashed, the battery went from 100% to flat in less than a day even when no WiFi, no bluetooth and no infrared are turned on. Then I recharged the device, pulled the battery out to let it cool down and put it back. After that the battery went back to normal with only around 3% consumption overnight.
Sounds interesting.
I also noticed that the device is getting hot in some cases (high CPU usage).
It is clear that the selfdischarge of the battery if much higher when it gets warmer. If it is being recharged in a short time afterwards, then also here the temperature will get higher.
This might be an explanation. You're right.
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Mhh.. i found out, if you have a bad cell connection (like 1 bar of all 4) the phone starts to boost somehow this hardware and drains alot battery.
Any1 experiencing that?
HansiHusten said:
Mhh.. i found out, if you have a bad cell connection (like 1 bar of all 4) the phone starts to boost somehow this hardware and drains alot battery.
Any1 experiencing that?
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You're absolutely correct... When the GSM carrier signal is weak, your phone compensates for this weakness by boosting the signal off your phone's antenna. This process consumes alot of power. Another reason for such a high consumption is that your GSM service provider is using a low GSM band for its GSM infrastructure and your phone is a triple/quad band phone. In that case, it would continuously boost off the signal.
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I know this has been discussed in the Gummycharge thread, but its buried pretty deep.
I know kej said that it has to do with the gallery, but I have uninstalled the Gallery3D.apk using the toolbox and I still seem to be losing about 10% per hour with the phone sitting idle on my desk.
Is there something we can use to quantify the appropriate battery drain rate? We all use our phones differently, so we need a way to standardize the battery drain so we can discuss it.
I saw someone mentioned that they were only losing 2% per hour while idle.
Currently, If i unplug the phone, and leave it sit for an hour (after a full charge) with only wifi on (gps, and bluetooth off) I lose about 10% per hour. If i use the phone at all, for example, When i wake up in the morning after a full charge and read the latest XDA posts, or some news articles, I can go from 100% to 85% in about 20 min.
this doesnt seem right.
Can we consolidate the battery drain issue to this post and post fixes and discuss reasons here?
This should have been posted in General first off.
Also, do you have SpareParts installed? If so, use that to check if your phone is entering sleep mode. You may have an app that is preventing your phone from sleeping, which will cause excessive battery drain like you are experiencing. My battery drain is <<1%/hr in airplane mode (I lose 1-2% over 8-9hrs in airplane mode) and when not in airplane mode, I'd say I loose at most 2-3%/hr if the phone is only sitting idle and I'm not using it.
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This should have been posted in General first off.
Also, do you have SpareParts installed? If so, use that to check if your phone is entering sleep mode. You may have an app that is preventing your phone from sleeping, which will cause excessive battery drain like you are experiencing. My battery drain is <<1%/hr in airplane mode (I lose 1-2% over 8-9hrs in airplane mode) and when not in airplane mode, I'd say I loose at most 2-3%/hr if the phone is only sitting idle and I'm not using it.
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OK cool, I wasnt sure if this was a general issue or not. Can a Mod move it? Or should I just delete and Remake?
Ive looked in spare parts and Im not sure where it would give that information, under battery history ive got running at 38.2%, screen on 25.2% phone on 14.5% and wifi on 100%
nothing mentions sleep mode
imnuts said:
This should have been posted in General first off.
Also, do you have SpareParts installed? If so, use that to check if your phone is entering sleep mode. You may have an app that is preventing your phone from sleeping, which will cause excessive battery drain like you are experiencing. My battery drain is <<1%/hr in airplane mode (I lose 1-2% over 8-9hrs in airplane mode) and when not in airplane mode, I'd say I loose at most 2-3%/hr if the phone is only sitting idle and I'm not using it.
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I get a drain of about 3-4% an hour if mine sits. However I leave it on LTE and at the office there is no LTE service yet. Yeah I'm just lazy......lol.
Curious on your SpareParts thing tho. I've never used it much really. Where does it show/display whether or not it is going into sleep mode. now I'm kinda curiosu if mine is correctly or not. Not that I'm very concerned about 4% and hr as I make it threw a full day fine. TIA
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OK cool, I wasnt sure if this was a general issue or not. Can a Mod move it? Or should I just delete and Remake?
Ive looked in spare parts and Im not sure where it would give that information, under battery history ive got running at 38.2%, screen on 25.2% phone on 14.5% and wifi on 100%
nothing mentions sleep mode
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If it's not running, it's sleeping. You're battery drain is likely caused by wifi being one 100%. If you are leaving the cell radio on, LTE, and also wifi, that is 3 radios on all at once, draining power.
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If it's not running, it's sleeping. You're battery drain is likely caused by wifi being one 100%. If you are leaving the cell radio on, LTE, and also wifi, that is 3 radios on all at once, draining power.
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is that just an issue with the charge? with my Incredible, leaving wifi on saved battery as it did not need to talk to the cell tower and try to get a 3g signal. Also, Before I flashed, I was able to sit all day in school and still be at %80ish power.
I will see what turning wifi off does.. but to be perfectly honest. that seems a little inefficient, that would mean every time i turn on the phone to use it, i would have to turn on wifi and sync, then turn it back off again.
For example, since I wrote this post, my battery has gone from 87% to 70%. 17% in 66 min even with wifi on, that cant be "normal drain". And All i have done is looked at 2 text messages.
Please do not get me wrong, I am not complaining at all. but I would like to get to the bottom of this.
I was on my way to the store to return the charge I hated it so much, but after flashing gummy and your kernel, I love the thing more than any phone ive ever had. So please do not mis-judge my intentions here. I simply want to know if this is normal. In my experience with sell phones (Droid Incredible for over a year, Wife has htc thunderbolt, and now the charge both stock and now custom rom) It is draining much much faster than any phone I have used before.
If this is normal, then I will just deal with it.
I am going to put it in airplane mode for the next hour and see what happens
It is def something in connectivity. Still at 75% after 1 hour in airplane mode. going go turn on 3g only and check again in 30 min.
I was going through battery stats and saw that wifi ON was at 100% and Wifi running was also at 100%..
seems like maybe somethign is using my data. so if that is true, it should try while on 3g and I should get huge battery drain.
will report back
Dude you are NOT alone. my phone drains like a siv, when its nt even being used. I always have LTE off, unless i tether wifi and I always plug it in when i tether so i dont drain. Itll just sit and be idle with NO use and lose 30%. i have gps, wifi and bluetooth off..... wth? this phone is looking ro get returned if i cant sort it out. i cant sit on a charger all the time.
If you are running Gummy, the gallery thing should not be an issue anymore (he fixed it a few versions ago).
When you go into spare parts, go to battery history and change to sensor usage. That will tell you immediately if you have some app that is draining your battery (ie the Gallery).
For the most part the battery killer for people is network searching. 3G,4G and WiFi are all in the same boat in that they will kill your battery if your phone has to constantly scan for them. To my knowledge using WiFi is better on power than 3/4G, but that is only if you are connected to a good signal and your phone doesn't have to search.
Also, I have noticed that the WiFi antenna on my charge isn't all that good, so you may want to keep an eye on it during your day. You may find that it is losing WiFi and scanning without you realizing.
The LTE radio in the Charge can be a huge hog. Especially if your in an area that likes to switch between 4G and 3G. Both my work and my home switch between 3G and 4G a lot and its not uncommon to see my phone drain almost 10% in an hour. On a good day it will be 5% an hour with LTE enabled. With mobile data and wifi off it can go down 0-2% per hour.
As far as I know, this is most likely just a sign of the Charge's battery. I'm not sure what Engadget was smoking in their review, but my Charge gets pretty horrendous battery life, especially in areas with dodgy signal (think constant switching between 3G and 4G). This is the first phone I've bought extra cables for charging in the car and office, but honestly, with these things getting as crazy as they are, I think this might be the norm in the future, what with battery technology lagging behind so much.
Some tips I've learned: turn the Wi-Fi radio off when not in use, and if you're in a really low-coverage area, consider even turning data off (you'll still be able to receive calls).
I live in NY, which is absolutely blanketed by 4g. I get better 4g reception than 3g in some places. I am getting horrific battery life. I just wiped, then mounted each partition individually and wiped and then reinstalled gummy 1.8.5 and per imnuts' recommendation, not install the reboot options. I had a custom rom on this phone within an hour of purchasing this phone, so I can't compare stock to a custom rom's battery life. I just know over the few days I've had this phone, my battery has been terrible. I shudder to think what the Thunderbolt must be like.
Your battery may be draining fast the first boot. Just reboot it. If that doesn't work then it didnt flash properly. Just reflash everything and remember to clear data, cache... hope it helps.
You can download an overclocking app and reduce battery use IF you already solved the battery drain problem.
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Hi folks - this is the first thread I have started, hence requesting the non-noobs to go easy on me... (this forum is a scary-kind-of-cool)
I mustered up the courage to install Infused 1.5.0 on my stock... the instructions were superb and everything went great... really enjoying the improved speed and looks. But my battery life has degraded. It has been more than a week since I flashed my phone - and it is only getting worse. Now I have read a lot about how Infused is getting great battery life for some folks... and i have gone through those threads, trying to figure out what I am doing wrong. This is my typical usage profile
1) I put the phone on charging before I go to sleep... when I wake up (around 7 AM) it is fully charged.
2) I quickly check overnight messages, finish the daily ablutions, and 30 min later when I check the phone it is already at 95%.
3) By 10 AM, I have made a few long phone calls (no bluetooth) (totalling 60-90 minutes) - and the battery is down to 75%
4) At work I use a bluetooth A2DP headset - maybe 30-40 min of calls and by 12 I am at 50%.
5) More calls in the afternoon, intermitted mail checking and sometimes 30-40 minutes of music streaming on my bluetooth headset - and by 6 PM my phone is down to critical level 12-15%.
This is in now way the same experience that others are having with the Infused ROM and with the Infuse phone in general.
Other points:
6) I run Juice Defender... (don't know if it helps)
7) My screen brightness is just a few notches over 0%
8) My data is always on - except when I am using Wifi of course
9) I turn bluetooth off when I am not using it
So that's the story guys... and I would eternally grateful if the awesome folks out here can help me figure out what I am doing wrong... or there is some logic behind the sad battery life of what is otherwise the best phone that I have ever owned.
It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?
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It depends how long Infused has been running on your system. After about 3 days I noticed my phone was adjusting to the ROM and the battery life improved significantly. Aside from that, try this trick. Drain your battery next to nothing and then charge all the way. Do this a couple of times. Not quite sure about the logistics but it seems to work. Another thing that has improved my battery life is to make sure I don't have background apps running. You can check this by going into apps > manage apps > and then running. Sometimes Media Hub will begin a background process and that eats up a whopping 8 MBs alone. Force close these pointless background apps and you should see an improvement there as well.
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Thanks popesmasseuse (you really aren't are you?)... the ROM has been running now for a week... gets worse rather than better. I do typically wait for my battery to drain completely before I charge it... but when I do have to do it at 7 PM - then I can never charge it fully, before I have to start using it again. I wonder if the fact that my phone goes through "micro charges" is a reason for my declining battery life...
Will check the running apps... and see if closing them improves things... thanks!
Fact: Installing a ROM greatly improves battery life... Try it....
Turn of GPS and Bluetooth when not in use.
Same here I uninstalled media hub... period... just useless...
Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
My battery life got better the longer I had the infused ROM. But personally I only talk on the phone maybe a total of an hour each day, but I am constantly using internet and youtube, and if I have spare time I'm using my Kindle app to read some books. I keep my GPS, sync, and wifi on all day long and my brightness all the way up (I just can't stand a dim screen lol) and by the time I got home today my battery was at 40%, which I am perfectly fine with.
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Phone calls are a pretty heavy battery drain. Sounds like you're in call for hours each day. Most people don't talk on the phone more than a few minutes a day. Poor signal will also significantly reduce your battery life... how many bars you usually have at work?
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Ah...the man himself.
Yes I talk a lot on the phone - nature of the job. 3 hours minimum in a day. Signal at home is terrible - 15% strength... that could be the reason why the battery runs dry after the morning routine. Any way to offset that?
At work signal is great. But in office I also tend to use my desk phone more...
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have you conditioned the battery and reset battery stats?
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Err... no... Noob alert!!!
How does one do that?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
Read the thread in my sig.
Never use task killers.
For me, battery life on phones gets good after about 2 weeks or so.
With light to medium use I can easily go for 2+ days.
Consider not streaming music through Bluetooth. Also don't auto sync stuff every 15 mins. If you can use Gmail they use Push notification. I'm on my phone all day literally and I make it home with some battery left. BTW connect to a Wi-Fi when ever possible, 3g data streaming will kill your battery quick.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14912331&postcount=7
Read this post in another battery thread I am doing this right now to see how it performs afterwards.
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has anyone tried this method?
It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
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It's a Lithium-Ion battery which means it does NOT respond to "conditioning".
"Reconditioning a battery involves completely discharging the energy from a battery then recharging the
battery. Li-Ion batteries do not require reconditioning to maintain good battery performance since Li-Ion
does not have a memory effect. It is necessary to complete drain and then recharge a Li-Ion battery in
order to determine its current capacity level, but that is not the same thing as reconditioning the battery. Li-
Ion batteries do not have a condition that needs to be reconditioned." lxe.com
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Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
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Keiht's tutorial is effectively a technique called "bump charging" for putting that last extra percent or two of charge into a battery. However - with Li-Ion batteries, charging like this will SEVERELY reduce their charge cycle lifetime.
The only thing that "calibration" should affect is how your device reports battery charge level, NOT actual power usage. You should get the same total battery life whether your device is "calibrated" or not, with the exception possibly of the device shutting off prematurely because it thinks the battery is lower than it really is.
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I would have to agree with you. I followed his directions as i was having horrible battery issues after going to 1.5.0 and it seems to have helped the reporting as far as I can tell. I think the big problem and it is only a guess is how the phone is reporting the battery condition not actual battery left. In any event I am running JD and the longer I run with 1.5.0 the battery seems to be lasting a lot longer but I have ti disable most everything which hobbles the phones best features to get that battery life still searching for the perfect solution.
This was my first real day with my LG E900, I am not really that pleased about battery life, I took it of the charger at 6am by 2pm it had about 30% battery left, that was with WiFi and Data turned of, no phone calls and just listening to the FM radio. Now had I these turned on it would of been dead by lunch time I am certain, I come from an iPhone, and that thing with WiFi etc on still had 40% battery left at bedtime, with WiFi of I could get 2 days out of it easily. I am on Mango if that makes a difference, I think this is easily the worst battery life I've seen on a phone especially when WiFi etc all turned of and I've been through iPhones, HTC, Galaxy S2's etc.
Is this normal or what am I doing wrong? Having owned Android phones in the past I already turn data etc of when not being used, dim screen, location services of etc.
Every battery needs to get used to the phone.
Do some full charge to 100 % and drain to till 20 % or less.
repeat this for 3 or 4 cycles. Then you battery will behave very nicely to you.
Also check whether your GPS is turned off.
some apps use your battery in the background. maybe one of them is the one that drains your battery. i discovered a few days ago that i had htc hub on some other like pulse. and there drain the battery too... there are many factors that drain the battery, the network is one of them... is it on GSM or 3G???
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some apps use your battery in the background. maybe one of them is the one that drains your battery. i discovered a few days ago that i had htc hub on some other like pulse. and there drain the battery too... there are many factors that drain the battery, the network is one of them... is it on GSM or 3G???
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Phone is on GSM as have no 3G coverage, I am hoping it'll take a few charges etc to get it going.
Hey,
i just had the feeling that theres something wrong with my battery stats. Cell Standby drains about 25% battery up to 50% sometimes.
Is there something wrong with my nexus 5?
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Hey,
i just had the feeling that theres something wrong with my battery stats. Cell Standby drains about 25% battery up to 50% sometimes.
Is there something wrong with my nexus 5?
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well it looks like you were in an area of no service for quite a while (the red bars). The battery gets crushed when there is no service and it is searching for service. I would put your phone in airplane mode if you know you have no service in an area. For example, when I enter the subway I put it into airplane mode to save battery.
I always recommend DS Battery Saver on the Play Store. When your screen is off, it turns off data (3g/4g).
To give you an idea of the benefits, I've been at work for 8 hours now, used my phone heavily at lunch, and my battery is still at 84%.
well, i tried using noBars or Autopilot but both arent working with 4.4. Instead of enabling flightmode they just crash..
So besides teh cell standby the battery stats seem ok? i was just wondering if there might be something wrong with the actual battery hardware.
Hi, i have Note 10 Exynos Version, phone was fully charged (100%) at time i was gone to the bed around , i turn off all the futures like wifi, NFC, Etc... i shocked when woke up and found battery is on 74%, i had s7 edge and never face sych iss5its hardly uses 3% max un standby, sometimes My note 10 drain 18%, 20%, i had checked everything but couldn't found reason for battery drained in standby, not installed any fancy app, its not show any background uses of any app, i dont know how to attached screen shot to this thread otherwise it will clarify more about issue..... help me to resolve ..
Sync and Bixby routines are major candidates for overnight/standby battery drain.
Even i face the same overnight drain issue which never happened with my S10+, but not as much as 24%.
It has also got to do with your network signal strength in the place were you live.
Hi , the point you mentioned about network signal strength seems possible culprits, i barely get 1 to 2 bar signal strenth (idea network) at home, secondly sync and Bixby routine was already turned off, is it possible that poor signal strenth should tole that much on battery? I had s7 edge and its it's never drained that much battery even at poor network signal strength
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Hi , the point you mentioned about network signal strength seems possible culprits, i barely get 1 to 2 bar signal strenth (idea network) at home, secondly sync and Bixby routine was already turned off, is it possible that poor signal strenth should tole that much on battery? I had s7 edge and its it's never drained that much battery even at poor network signal strength
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Look under your battery settings, should show more detail about what is consuming what amount of power and go from there.
Hi, if i turn-on the flight mode at night before bed, phone won't drain battery at standby, its draining graph stayed flat at night, so i assumed that main culprit is poor network signal.... by the way can u enlighten me how to add/attached screen shot herewith if i wish to? As i dont found any option menu for that....
Manoj Kale said:
Hi, if i turn-on the flight mode at night before bed, phone won't drain battery at standby, its draining graph stayed flat at night, so i assumed that main culprit is poor network signal.... by the way can u enlighten me how to add/attached screen shot herewith if i wish to? As i dont found any option menu for that....
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To attach an image, scroll down a little and there's a button to attach it or you can upload it to imgur.com and share the link here.
As for your battery drain, the main culprit is always bad battery signal. So maybe try locking it to 3g and try it out.
Sometimes when the network is bad and the phone wants to sync, it will fail and keep trying. It's an issue which plagues samsung to be honest. Had it once as well on my note10.