Just managed to get my hands on HTC TOUCH!!! NICEEEE!!! Not the best performer, but well designed. TouchFLO software looks realy good. 3D interface - iPhone might be a little too late. The only thing that might be better about apple product - is hassle finding the software Nothing personal, but I think Apple stich people just on branding.
Anyway, I've got the device from Inkino guys on TCR. I'm happy with it as a toy. You can go and check it out yourself.
P.S. Not advertising, just like to deal with them...
can u get us the software??
photos?
Wouldn't mind seeing it alongside another device?!
mrvanx said:
photos?
Wouldn't mind seeing it alongside another device?!
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Give half an hour...
vasil > can you post a dump of the ROM please
We would be very greatfull if you could post a dump of your rom...
PLEASE........
Is there any reason why this application (Touch something...) cannot run in any other HTC device???
we don't know yet, but if we get our hand in the rom, soon we will know...
neocsr said:
Is there any reason why this application (Touch something...) cannot run in any other HTC device???
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They use some sort of new screen on this machine. I was told there is only one supplier for it in the world. But I'll try...
thanks, we will wait for news...
Hope you get the dump asap...
ohhh i wish it will go fast to dump this room and that its just like a cab
Acording to John Wang (HTC Chief Marketing Officer + inventor of TouchFLO) the screen is new hardware and unique to the Touch (for now).
The "Gestures" of TouchFLO only kicks in when the screen detects skin (your finger). so it looks like for now it's a no go.
then i hope that the Kaiser has the same touchflo hardware..
and inventor my ass.. is had that same menu structure and sweeps on my neonode ( www.neonode.com ) back in 2004!!
If it detects the skin, then for sure it's a capacitive sensor in addition to the resitive (the normal one).
clinteastman said:
Acording to John Wang (HTC Chief Marketing Officer + inventor of TouchFLO) the screen is new hardware and unique to the Touch (for now).
The "Gestures" of TouchFLO only kicks in when the screen detect skin (your finger). so it look like for now it's a no go.
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can we believe to an ""Chief Marketing Officer + inventor of TouchFLO""
I believe we can't
may be we have the ROM.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310555 may be we need the extended only
stesa said:
can we believe to an ""Chief Marketing Officer + inventor of TouchFLO""
I believe we can't
may be we have the ROM.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310555 may be we need the extended only
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Well..... We will find out soon! Believe me, I hope your right and i'm wrong!!
Here is a review of the Touch in Russian. Until the English translation is available at least one can see the photos and screenshots : http://mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-elf.shtml
I don't really belive that skin stuff, but we must belive it will work...
nice one, if you get the cab out..
this thread deserves a sticky
Iput mode
It looks like an alternative input mode if you look at the video so if someone can figure out how to extract that it would be nice. I belive that that it would work because the only two touch screen technologies are active and passive so I don't believe it should matter
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i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
zaharakis said:
i think is time to downgrate to wm 6 ...........
yes 6 not 6.1 with all these issues and bugs and problems....
and then sell all of us our kaisers
i'm tired of this [email protected]#king htc's policy
what reason for,keep trying manage to work wright a device,that cost us more than 750e??
what reason for,keep buying from this screwed company named HTC ?????
sory for my tone but i can't stand any more this condition
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I hear ya, but thats why we have wonderful chefs
Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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but somewhere we have to say it loud about this ..
and is better say it in another thread (like this one )and not to fill all other threads
Things that might improove
Hey,
The ROMs here are actually quite good but even if the ROM from HTC (the new one) does not compare with the ones made by XDA gurus they did some nice stuff...for example clearing the storage automatically after flash (no hard reset??) and the radio looks to be quite good it has all the countries in EUR now and the auto network configuration actually works...and there is no bluetooth activated right after flash...
Maybe some of these good things can be implemented in the new custom ROMs also...
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
i think that zaharakis says what we all feel
htc tricked us
i can play videos and emulate gba games fluently at mt 3 years old ipaq 2490
while i cannot even turn the screen instantly to the stupid kaiser
and think how it would be if we didn't have the chefs
Isaygarcia said:
More than blaming HTC for its ****-ROMs , we should contact the people who is working on port the Diamond drivers.
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This phone does what i need it to do. And when the next greatest ppc comes out il be getting that.
Isaygarcia said:
redundant blame thread... it should be off-topic?
we all know that the Official wm6.1 upgrade Sucks...
Mods, could you close this thread?
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On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
Rayan said:
On the contrary...
Posts like this are nothing but the reflection of all the frustrated HTC users like me and if and only if people from HTC get to see this kind of bad publicity who knows, maybe they change their stupid policies...
Here's hoping...
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I wished the same thing until I realized that here in this forum we only represent negligible fraction of what could make an impact at all for their revenues.
hi guys,
i used the kaiser since few month with the org. german vodafone rom 1.58.... and all thinks work fine except voip with the rear speaker problem, and no drivers .. we all know.
Yesterday I use the new official german rom and this works so bad for me ... same speed, problems with the touchscreen, BT headset works but kaiser works slow with BT on.
Before I throw the Kaiser off the window :-/ I wait for a community rom with diamond drivers and give the people here a detonation for that. No more money to HTC from me.
Greets ChriZZ
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
Cooked wm6.1 ROM > *anything
dubbeld00 said:
Why don't we all let HTC know this... Mail them, all of you, it's costing them money and time to reply to those mails.
Still didn't get a driver, which they promised us and a crappy performance when it comes to graphics... So don't frustrate the people over here with your shortcomings, but irritate the HTC staff .
That's just my point of view...
(For example: create an example mail (like the one on htcclassaction (or so) and mail it all to this crappy company)
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your point is good my friend ..but you think they don't allready know it??
i don't believe that no one in htc didn't try first this update,before releasing it in public
so they just yellow us for another one time
Sorry..Why u r angry?...also all the coocked 6.1 ROMs are sucks...i tried theme all ( full of bugs ) and dont let u even use the device the way u like...
am using the HTC offecial ROM i ( WM 6 ) all the needed program are running very good ( Arabiser for the arabic users like me although this arabizing softwares did is not the offecial for HTC, windows live working,Skyps workin, camer i dont use so musch but the pic's i took are very good,GPS working ( using sygc7...so what else you dream off ????????? the only this that make me try the 6.1 is the sound of my Gabra 8040 voice is not that loud i need ( i live in a noisy country)...and just we all should know that this is a PPC not a PC u ca not just load it with tons of programs
the only thing i think HTC should do is to use MVC insted of the buil in program althought that program runs very good but we all like the MVC
I remember when!
Remember when they "HTC" announced the Kaiser II , the promo how cool it looked. We all couldn't wait, built in GPS smaller design "not as thick" I fell for the hype. Now what are they pushing the "DIAMOND" wow lets all sell our Tilt's and Kaisers II on eBay and go out and buy a Diamond. but wait what is the Diamond missing what are it's short falls. Do we all trust HTC since they have been so honest with us up to now, it seems that everyone is tring to make a Iphone look alike. If you want an Iphone buy one. it's cheeper then a Kaiser II and you can get 2 for the price of a Diamond. I like my Tilt and I am going to keep it. but I don't like HTC and I would be willing to contribute to any legle suite or team that can go after HTC and hold them accountable. They may reside in a foreign country but I live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, and we know how to screw someone in court. Land of the Free and home of the Class action suite! I am extremely happy to belong to this XDA community, I feel like this is a big extended family and we have family members all over the world. We have all been waiting long enough and apparently in vein, for HTC to release video drivers. I believe they never had any intention of correcting these problems. Oh and one more thing I never used a Windows machine at home until I got my first HTC device Samsung SX66, then 8525 now the Tilt. I am a die hard Mac user have always been. but in the world of PDA's Windows is King! I can't get what I need out of an Iphone and looks like I am not going to get what I expect from HTC. Shame on you HTC you took a customer that bought a new device each and every year and drove me to this. maybe your next years P&L will open your eye's.
Ed...
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
So... after thinking it for a long time I have gone back to the original WM 6.0 ROM.
- Official WM 6.1 update by HTC: No text in landscape mode, programs crashing, skype does not work
- Cooked ROMs based on this: same problems with landscape
- Cooked ROMs with 1.65 radio: do not work well with my router, slow GPS fix
- Other cooked ROMs: display problems, have many programs I have no use for or I have to install others that came as standard (this leads to little storage free at the end). Skype does not work on most cases.
- Original ROM: Big free storage, GPS works fast, WiFi works, Skype works, all programs work, no crashes.
So, by updating what the hell do I gain?
My other choice would be WM 6.1 3.02 ROM, I've been using it for weeks, but hell, in the original ROM skype works.
nphil said:
I'm sorry, but how exactly does moaning about a multi-milion dollar company on a developer forum do any good?
I'm sure the folks at HTC are reading all this on a daily basis, and take pity on your plight, and will be releasing a driver asap to make us all happy.
The kaiser does what it's supposed to - it's a business centric device and as for the multimedia part, it might not be a monster, but it does do the job relatively well.
Face it, HTC doesn't care about a 7 month old device, neither do they care about you. Try and think about it from their point of view - Releasing a brand new device boasting of 3D capabilities is MUCH better for sales than worrying about implementing it on an already released crippled one.
With that said, I hope this will be the last of such threads and the ROM development forum is no place for this sort of rant anyway.
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It helps if we don't buy into their next product. Multi-million dollar companies are made buy consumers. If you take away the consumer then you don't have a multi-million dollar company.
why dont we all put our kaisers in a big bag and then take this bag in a helicopter and release over HTC Corp. (with some TNT, or some Hydrogen in Fusion) and Bang !
So I'm looking for a clone of this fantastic iPhone app:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5133258/nsfw-wobble-iphone-app-adds-boob-jiggle-to-real-boobs-is-approved
for my Verizon HTC Touch Pro. Anyone know if there is some software out there, or anyone want to tackle this critical piece of software to make the Touch Pro mainstream?
LOL that is great stuff.
Yes, that would be great! awesome application.
hdWobble for Blackstone (Touch HD)
Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmzMwVzxZuQ
That'll be a download for me.
Three questions:
1. When
2. Where
3. Touch Pro NON-HD?
VGA please!
Bodero said:
Three questions:
1. When
2. Where
3. Touch Pro NON-HD?
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three answers
1. never
2. nowhere
3. this is the RAPHAEL section id hope he wants a VGA port of it .
4th bonus answer!
this isn't really all that funny or breakthrough revolutionize the sales of the touch pro or fuze . its lewd and ...well...lewd . and no thats not great stuff.
elAlem said:
Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmzMwVzxZuQ
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You should link to your post in the Blackstone section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=522179
Try Tiki Tower or BBuild.
Edit:
Uhhhh....whoops...thinking of a completely different app. ignore me.
This has already been discussed in another thread. Why don't you try searching with TWO hands to make our lives easier?
gmanfuzing said:
three answers
1. never
2. nowhere
3. this is the RAPHAEL section id hope he wants a VGA port of it .
4th bonus answer!
this isn't really all that funny or breakthrough revolutionize the sales of the touch pro or fuze . its lewd and ...well...lewd . and no thats not great stuff.
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Great news, if you don't like it, you don't have to download it. Other than that, your post was vapid. Thank me.
i asked him on youtube if he was working on vga he said its on his to do's so hopefully soon
hdWobble
Even though by its name you would say this app is intended for Touch HD only, actually it is working even on QVGA devices. WQVGA and VGA included.
Initially it started as app for Touch HD but on your requests I made it available in other resolutions. Check it out here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3890171#post3890171
[size=+2]Skins for Touch Shell Free - User 3D Interface [/size]
[size=+1]Improve the usability of your Windows Mobile Device like HTC TouchFlo 3D Diamond.[/size]
[size=+1]Review Touch Shell Free [/size]
HTC TouchFlo 3D Diamond Skin for Touch Shell Free - Download
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Download CAB from Share4mobile
Apple iPhone Skin for Touch Shell Free - Download
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Download CAB from Share4mobile
More Skin Here
Not Official
Official
http://www.touch-shell.com/skins/
Is this only for diamond? What about touch cruise?
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Is this only for diamond? What about touch cruise?
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Where are those skins coming from? Some of them look curiously like M2D themes posted on this site and why aren't they credited ?
And not only from M2d, i even see some of my work, as always uncredited....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442487
This soft is not good at all for my device (O2 Flame).
It runs really slow, don't keeps settings after a soft reset, and i can't see anywhere the changelog on the site. Is that for VGA or not? Nobody knows...
fantom.assasin said:
Not Official
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=106374
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I can't register at pda.ru/forum
Phantom, ignore the naysayers. I have been waiting for some better skins to come out for Touch Shell so that I can at least give it a legitimate run for the money. Thank you for your work. The skins below "More skins here"...where do I find the cabs for those. Can you post them here? I only speak English.
monetizing other peoples work by ripping off their skins... nice people.
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monetizing other peoples work by ripping off their skins... nice people.
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I'm confused. Did he ask for money? Aren't we all just ripping off TF3D, a product of HTC, so that we don't have to buy new Diamonds and Touch Pros? I agree to give credit where credit is due, but he would have had to put a lot of time into making these skins compatible for the Touch Shell.
can you publish links from http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=106374?
someone please post all the skins in that russian site. I cannot take a account to get them...
I can't create a account to get them too...
me too... bloody damn code thing dont work
Samsung omnia?
Does anyone know if there are any skins out there for A samsung omnia. Or at least tell me how ro adjust the resolution setting. I love the skins here.I just wish it filled the whole screen on my omnia. great Work...To all who had a part in it. lol ...Oh and in case your wondering my resolution is 400x840 and 840x400...Depending on how I hold it
woops
240x400 is the res
dtweezy said:
Does anyone know if there are any skins out there for A samsung omnia. Or at least tell me how ro adjust the resolution setting. I love the skins here.I just wish it filled the whole screen on my omnia. great Work...To all who had a part in it. lol ...Oh and in case your wondering my resolution is 400x840 and 840x400...Depending on how I hold it
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Please someone can post the new skins from here: http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=106374&st=240 ?
it's possible download the first theme again or notttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
So close
I'm so close to reating a user on the russian site... the code-generater says something like:
74ПЛЮC76paBHO
Please someone, come with a link for the skins.
What kind of developer posts stuff and never comes to check on the thread? I PM'd this guy TWO WEEKS ago and haven't heard anything back. Looks like someone was just trying to look cool on XDA-Developers. Excuse me while I go find an obscure skin no one has seen and post it here.
I am over it, though. I am rocking on with NFSFAN's AMAZING 6.5 ROM. Touch-Shell is like this developer: too little, too late.
I can't register at pda.ru/forum,too.Someone do me a favour,please.
Guys, I've been wondering for quite some time if there is a PPC out there that "completely satisfies" the needs of various users. Therefore, if it isn't too much trouble, would you mind listing:
1) Key features you would like in a PPC
2) Any PPCs currently in the market (or in the soon-to-be market, i.e. Touch Pro 2) that fit the bill?
**Note: I don't necessarilly want you to limit yourself to WinMo phones; Symbian, BlackBerry, Android, Palm, and even Apple (yes I know...) phones are OK.
For example, I own a Touch Pro and would prefer:
- Larger screen
- Capacitive screen
- More responsiveness (most likely due to a faster processor)
- Thinner (to complement the larger screen to make it easier to type)
Anyways, thanks for taking a look and especially if you contribute.
Really, no one is willing to help my research?
So far, I've only had one Voter. Though appreciated, I'm afraid it's simply not enough.
C'mon guys, what have you got to lose? You'll be expressing your opinion on a matter which I'm sure is on most people's minds here at the forum as well as helping out a fellow member.
Maybe this thread was simply overlooked. Therefore, I feel a BUMP is in order.
Two votes now!
you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.
orb3000 said:
Two votes now!
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And one for the Universal from your Sig (despite being a TP user).
galaxys said:
you need a catagory 'non of the above' for us WM fans!
btw, there are so many polls around here the last year...maybe some info in them for your research.
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Windows Mobile is a given considering the forum. If I had that option, nearly 100% of the votes would be WinMo. I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info.
Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?
I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...
BB Storm FTW!!!!
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I first started with the Palm505...got hooked. Then switched to windows mobile 2003- it sucked. Then got me a Tungsten TX-it was better...but then found my dream pda...Tungsten C... there is where I found great apps and used it everyday! Now, I have the HTC Mogul running windows mobile 6.1.... love it.... but once in a while I find myself missing some of Palm's apps... not available on WM6.
I bought my wife a treo 750p... she catches me once in a while admiring the buttons and apps...
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So the main reason you like your PPCs is the Apps, right?
TheChampJT said:
BB Storm FTW!!!!
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Surprise, surprise.
Don't see many Storm lovers around .
WildAce786 said:
I just wanted to know what alternatives you guys like AND WHY <= still need info. Could you direct me to any "current" polls that may be related to this thread?
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Here's a current discussion with a lot of scoop and why info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501708
I thought I'd leave you all with the ROM comparisons that I did when I was actively using my Universal. Half way through I upgraded to 128 MB, so this is reflected in some of the memory readings.
These are my own personal findings - I tested programs on the ROMs that I was interested in. Perhaps I'm opening a can of worms here, but I hope you find it useful.
Thanks Jonny!
Great information, will add to the FAQ
How do you feel with your new Rhodium?
My new rhodium is great - I'm not looking back! (Oops, perhaps I shouldn't have posted that here!). I know it doesn't run WP7, but there is certainly life in it yet (and I have a lot of bought programs which run on WM6.5 only, so I'm quite happy).
I enjoyed too my Rhodium!
And moved to Leo was a big shock for me coming from a real keyboard line devices...
I expect to go back to keyboard devices soon as I find a similar spec HTC device
Jonny could You paste this file with .xls extention? I don't have Office 2007 and i cannot get into it
Thx in advance
BR
buzolek
Ok, updated first post to include excel 2003 version Rom Compare3.xls
very useful information!thanks
Great
OMG...
You HAVE used your Uni buddy!
And I thought I was a serious user...still using though...nobody in my town knows what a 128 MB Uni means to me...will just keep it till I grow old.
I'm waiting for a really good WP7 piece...checked one HD7...but the software glithces.. or shortcomings are too many....let's see.
Hey kalya! nice to see you around
Perhaps would be wise to wait for Touch Pro 7
-Jonny- said:
I thought I'd leave you all with the ROM comparisons that I did when I was actively using my Universal. Half way through I upgraded to 128 MB, so this is reflected in some of the memory readings.
These are my own personal findings - I tested programs on the ROMs that I was interested in. Perhaps I'm opening a can of worms here, but I hope you find it useful.
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Great job!! Obrigado!
what next?
I don't know Orb...which would be my WP7 handset.
As always , win mo are dull,very down to earth,mature looking gadgets...they will never be fun and I accept that....
Just waiting for a great hardware & the new OS's perfect synchronisation.
Uni was it...we got maximum from it...but my country's mobile network never caught up with the handset.
Just waiting for it...hoping...HTC would almost deliver and I know XDA members will make it perfect.
Yes it´s true...
I have played with WP7 on my Leo and decided to go back to WM/Android as it´s to damn closed platform it seems like apple...
If WM is really dying which I doubt I think I go to Android instead...
Please let me know what you finally decide to upgrade
Cheers,
Maybe Galaxy Tab if nothing good comes out in the near future.
We win mo users don't want a new OS or high config devices as much we need really new --FRESH-- apps,but maybe the new apps reqire both the things..OS+new hardware.
Otherwise I stll have some of the handsets in my sig(and some nokia ones also)