Cook or change ROM - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading

Dear Friends,
I want to change my ROM (AKU3.3.13) because lack of main memory and i don't want some install program such as Live Update or... I want to change my ROM. and so I want to change my Ext_ROm
anyone can describe easily How can i do it?
I search the forum but I don't find suitable TOOLS and guide for AKU3.3.13 (WM5)
Please help me and tell me compltely software I needed for cooking (changing) ROM and ext_Rom and easily help.
Thanks

+4mb from non used app.
ebaskar said:
Dear Friends,
I want to change my ROM (AKU3.3.13) because lack of main memory and i don't want some install program such as Live Update or... I want to change my ROM. and so I want to change my Ext_ROm
anyone can describe easily How can i do it?
I search the forum but I don't find suitable TOOLS and guide for AKU3.3.13 (WM5)
Please help me and tell me compltely software I needed for cooking (changing) ROM and ext_Rom and easily help.
Thanks
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YEah i would like to get rid of some programs or applications i never used! Windows update, streaming media, calculator (as i use a 3rd party one), internet sharing... if i get 4mb free i could increase page-pool and reach 12mb
thanks in advance

why do you want to increase page pool size to 12 mb, the default is 12 in official rom and we decrease it to get more RAM, and it does not need more space to increase it

ebaskar said:
Dear Friends,
I want to change my ROM (AKU3.3.13) because lack of main memory and i don't want some install program such as Live Update or... I want to change my ROM. and so I want to change my Ext_ROm
anyone can describe easily How can i do it?
I search the forum but I don't find suitable TOOLS and guide for AKU3.3.13 (WM5)
Please help me and tell me compltely software I needed for cooking (changing) ROM and ext_Rom and easily help.
Thanks
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nobody can help us?

use IMGFS tools,
about the EXT rom use win Image
it is described here in so many web pages if you use search you can find a lot

paradis_pal said:
why do you want to increase page pool size to 12 mb, the default is 12 in official rom and we decrease it to get more RAM, and it does not need more space to increase it
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Please describe more...after I install AKU13 the free main memory was about 30MB and after I install some program suck as SPB and ...in storage card and main memory it is decreased to 20 MB.. I know that Operation System (WM5) installed in main memory IF i can unistall some program that I don't use in AKU3 it means the main memory is increased...am i true? if not please help...help about Memory in PPC.
I searched the software u say...but I can't understand because they use WM6 and my operation system is AKU13....please help more.
thanks

no not like that
please see the wiki how to cook a rom, and edit WM5 (it is the same as 6) and if you have any difficulty I can help with it
I can't explain all how to cook a rom.
ask particular question, not common question
but you will find all your need in the WIKI and the forum, if you can't find I will help
IMGFS 1.82 beta

paradis_pal said:
no not like that
please see the wiki how to cook a rom, and edit WM5 (it is the same as 6) and if you have any difficulty I can help with it
I can't explain all how to cook a rom.
ask particular question, not common question
but you will find all your need in the WIKI and the forum, if you can't find I will help
IMGFS 1.82 beta
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Dear Friend,
I want to remove :
contact Backup
Internet Sharing
Terminal Service Client
VNC Viewer
Windows Live messenger
windoes Live
...
from my AKU3.13 for increase size of main memory
Please Help

that will not increase the meomory, only you will have more useless space in the ROM you can;t use
or it may free the memory if you load them in the memoery (i.e. you run them or they are in startup programs, or they just ran in memory, like windows live messnger)
use taskmgr 2.7 to know what files in the memory and what services are runing, disable and close all useless programs and services and you have more free memoey
in the memory program how much total memory do you have?
in 12 mb pool size you will have 44.07 I think
in 8 mb pool size you will have 48 mb total memory and it is nothing to do with the ROM or programs in the ROM
I'm busy right now but I'll chek the ASERG 3.3.13 page pool for you ok, I did cook a room but for my needs 6 mb page pool size
I can't put room in the site I have dail up connecton very bad, slow and expensive becasue of the problem in the network as they told me, but as you from IRAN I asume you know about the internet her in SYRIA
sorry I wrie this too fast I forgot what I did write

Thanks for ur reply dear palestinian user.
If we can change the ROM, we can install more useful program in ROM then we don't need to install them on main memory or storage card.
I don't know about Internet in Syria. but I love Qods, Hezbollah and seyyed Hasan nasrollah

this why you need how to cook a ROM,
use IMGFS 1.82 for delete and add files
and use rgucomp for edit registry
see the wiki how to cook a ROM

paradis_pal said:
this why you need how to cook a ROM,
use IMGFS 1.82 for delete and add files
and use rgucomp for edit registry
see the wiki how to cook a ROM
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Dear Friend
I read all post about cooking ROM, but all of them are about WM6.
My main Question is:
1- How to change(cook) WM5 Rom (jamin) AKU3.13 ?
2- I use IMGFS but how can i access to the files and program that be in OS.nf file? to delete or add some of them.
3- BUILDOS.exe required in wiki said ! I don't find this file in this site !! and in the COOKING PACKAGE
so would u plz help me to cook AKU3.13 ROM for my Jamin (personal ROM)
Thanks

ebaskar said:
Dear Friend
I read all post about cooking ROM, but all of them are about WM6.
My main Question is:
1- How to change(cook) WM5 Rom (jamin) AKU3.13 ?
2- I use IMGFS but how can i access to the files and program that be in OS.nf file? to delete or add some of them.
3- BUILDOS.exe required in wiki said ! I don't find this file in this site !! and in the COOKING PACKAGE
so would u plz help me to cook AKU3.13 ROM for my Jamin (personal ROM)
Thanks
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Hey i cannot find the wiki how to cook a rom any help? i just saw that FARIA thing. I'd like to port a rom from wizard

use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful

paradis_pal said:
use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful
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BRAVO! heheh i am reading a lot today! THANK YOU!

paradis_pal said:
use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful
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Thank you for very good help.
So a question:
how can i know which files are for whic program? for example i want to remove Camera program, it have DLL files and more...or i want a program MSN Live...which dll are for selected program?
I want to Add Resco Explorer to this ROM..how can i do it?
I have an exe file for installing resco explorer/..or CAB file for Resco Explorer..so how can i put this program (add this program) to this ROM?
Thanks

dear you have a lot to explain I try help tomorrow I have exam now wish me luck

paradis_pal said:
dear you have a lot to explain I try help tomorrow I have exam now wish me luck
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I wish u luck dear,
Waiting for ur reply.
Thanks....
The best reply I read in this site was your reply about COOKING ROM

paradis_pal said:
use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful
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Dear friend
How can i determine DLL, folders and all file for a program i want to change /delete or add to the ROM?

I'll be a little naughty
test my ROM and I'll tell you how

Related

Still no body knows how to unlock the ext-rom?

Still no body knows how to unlock the ext-rom? I try everyehere here, but still no one can do it?
I've been wondering that myself since I moved over from a PDA2k and saw how easy it was to do it there with the Unlocker tools.
Apparently, since it's so comparatively new and the architecture is allegedly different from some of the other models, the only individual who went far enough to hack it is no longer active or no longer a willing participant in the community. His much-appreciated hack simply cleared out the Extended ROM area and moved it into the usable Storage memory area.
Until we get more people who are acclimated and bold enough to risk tinkering with their Magician models, it's either an all-or-nothing scenario when it comes to the Extended ROM. For me, I decided to hold out from installing the "BigStorage" hack until I know we can easily go back and forth without jeopardizing our devices with SD card-flashing techniques. There seems to be too many variables (read: ROM variations) to make me feel comfortable about possibly flashing some other carrier's version or rendition of the ROM onto my i-mate NA-850MHz JAM.
Ext rom
Ok Beondthetech I understand - it's not to easy load aplications to ext rom (like MDA2) . We wont personalize our devices after loading system ( after Hard reset ). Aplications like ewallet , callmanager , ... etc. Metod is not relevant. W wont only automatically instal other programs ( not included on rom ). Or what's the metod to enrich orginal rom. But I prefer upload ext rom. Tools like Unhide and Unlock not work ( Error: FL_IOCTL_HW_PROTECTION- Yhe parameter is incorrect). When I try something write i saw Cannot copy : error code 19 The media is write protect (after use loadvdisk.exe) Thanks for all replies . Sorry for my english.
As I understand it, the memory configuration and layout is different between the Blue Angel and the Magician devices, so the Unlock tools won't work.
I decided to remove my Extended ROM portion altogether and use Anansky's BigStorage hack. I now have 27MB of Storage area instead. I copied out the Extended ROM's CAB files and incorporated it into my normal "build" when redoing all my applications on a new device.
How to make your own ExtROM for the Magician
I recently managed to make my own ExtROM for my Magician.
A short howto:
1. First dump your rom to a SD-card, using the well know method.
2. Next get the rom to your pc, using ntrw
3. Using a Hex-editor, copy 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) to a file.
4. Mount that file as a virtual Harddisk (I use the virtualdisk-plugin for total commander)
5. Modify your ExtROM on that Virtualdisk.
6. Umount the Virtualdisk.
7. paste the contents of the (modified) file back into the rom-file, at precicly the same position and save it under a different name.
8. put the modified rom back onto your SD-card, using ntrw.
9. Flash your Magician, with the new rom.
Have fun with your modified ExtRom
Re: How to make your own ExtROM for the Magician
DrChair said:
I recently managed to make my own ExtROM for my Magician.
A short howto:
1. First dump your rom to a SD-card, using the well know method.
2. Next get the rom to your pc, using ntrw
3. Using a Hex-editor, copy 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) to a file.
4. Mount that file as a virtual Harddisk (I use the virtualdisk-plugin for total commander)
5. Modify your ExtROM on that Virtualdisk.
6. Umount the Virtualdisk.
7. paste the contents of the (modified) file back into the rom-file, at precicly the same position and save it under a different name.
8. put the modified rom back onto your SD-card, using ntrw.
9. Flash your Magician, with the new rom.
Have fun with your modified ExtRom
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Does that remove the simlock?
Re: How to make your own ExtROM for the Magician
Oesie said:
Does that remove the simlock?
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Nope, it's only a way to customize which things are installed after a hard-reset.
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
Hi!
I can not find this section in my file. i use hdd Hex editor. see the attachment. thankx
Pamela said:
Hi!
I can not find this section in my file. i use hdd Hex editor. see the attachment. thankx
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You miss understand. 2BC019C (HEX) is Location not Content.
ups...
Sorry... :wink:
thankx
Pamela, he is referring to the exact position in the file, not a hex string to search for.
The idea is that you're ripping a chunk out of the ROM dump and turning that into a mountable volume, to which you can modify the contents, then inject the modified chunk back into the ROM dump, then SD-flash your device.
3EC019C hex = 65,798,556 decimal
2BC019C hex = 45,875,612 decimal
65,798,556 - 45,875,612 = 19,922,944 bytes
So, from the ROM dump you make, you'll be ripping out nearly 19 MB into a file that you'll use as a "virtual hard disk" to make changes as necessary.
WinHex and UltraEdit are two good hex editors, and WinHex is good for ripping chunks out and injecting them back in (you don't want to "insert" the code, but replace the 19,922,944 bytes with your modifications - inserting will make the ROM dump file larger and corrupt it).
little_frog said:
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
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I was trying to understand Anansky's bigstorage rom, by comparing it with my own rom, when I stumled over something that looked very much like a FAT16 bootsector. So I had the start-address. Knowing that the size of the ext-rom was 1300000 (hex) it's simple math to find the end-address.
DrChair said:
little_frog said:
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
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I was trying to understand Anansky's bigstorage rom, by comparing it with my own rom, when I stumled over something that looked very much like a FAT16 bootsector. So I had the start-address. Knowing that the size of the ext-rom was 1300000 (hex) it's simple math to find the end-address.
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Thanks.. DrChair
BeyondtheTech said:
Pamela, he is referring to the exact position in the file, not a hex string to search for.
The idea is that you're ripping a chunk out of the ROM dump and turning that into a mountable volume, to which you can modify the contents, then inject the modified chunk back into the ROM dump, then SD-flash your device.
3EC019C hex = 65,798,556 decimal
2BC019C hex = 45,875,612 decimal
65,798,556 - 45,875,612 = 19,922,944 bytes
So, from the ROM dump you make, you'll be ripping out nearly 19 MB into a file that you'll use as a "virtual hard disk" to make changes as necessary.
WinHex and UltraEdit are two good hex editors, and WinHex is good for ripping chunks out and injecting them back in (you don't want to "insert" the code, but replace the 19,922,944 bytes with your modifications - inserting will make the ROM dump file larger and corrupt it).
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Wow! Is it possible for any1 to make an App that will do this Automatically? similar to the bytecopy app provided by some1 in this forum(great work btw!)? Or go the distance and upload a cooked ROM with the most useful apps that will go in after a Hard Reset?(based on the experience of the gurus and nice peeps in the house)
Use at own risk.
Sorry if it sounds too technical, but theoretically, one can go into the bootloader mode of the Magician and just dump the Extended ROM area to the SD card (i.e. d2s 82BC019C 83EC019C [untested!]), then 'ntrw read' it, mount it, edit it, unmount it, 'ntrw write' it, then 's2d 82BC019C 83EC019C' to write it back to the Magician.
I haven't found any documentation on 's2d' so that might be the reason he's dumping the entire ROM, then extracting the Extended ROM portion.
There are a good threads on how d2s/s2d is used on an iPAQ and an XDA II, but I'm sure it can be applied to most Pocket PCs:
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=46855
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/PDAforum_posts.asp?TID=62&PN=1
And these are possible commands and its arguments for use in the bootloader mode:
http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/h2200-port/1/0146.html
Hi!
I have problems to mount the file to a disk. What ending should the file have? *.iso *.nrg ???!!!
i also have problems with total commander. the plugin does not work...
Plz HELP!
Pam
Hi!
now i fixed my problems... thankx
But an other question:
Is it possible to create a small ext. Rom only for IIWPO so that the rest of the Storage is useable to install Programms in?
What about a NEW self cooked Rom with IIWPO. There are many threads about this with the other HTC devices. Is it possible with the Magician without loosing the Big Storage??
Thankx. By, Pam
BeyondtheTech said:
theoretically, one can go into the bootloader mode of the Magician and just dump the Extended ROM area to the SD card (i.e. d2s 82BC019C 83EC019C [untested!])
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That would be d2s 82c00000 83f00000
BeyondtheTech said:
I haven't found any documentation on 's2d' so that might be the reason he's dumping the entire ROM, then extracting the Extended ROM portion.
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I didn't know that command existed. I thought i tried that once (s2d, without any arguments) to flash back a entire rom when I'd put back the sd-card when i was already in BL-mode, but iirc that gave me an "Invalid Command" message...
Anyways i'll give it another try this weekend.
And thanks for the url's, already googled for boatloader commands but found none
Pamela said:
Is it possible to create a small ext. Rom only for IIWPO so that the rest of the Storage is useable to install Programms in?
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I'm still trying to figure that out aswell, but uptill now without any succes...
It would be nice to have approx 10 MB ext-rom and the rest added to storage.

Storage Problems for a non developer

Hi
I know there are lots of people asking how to save space and mostly they get told to use 'search' and check the stickys.
I'm a keen gadget lover but have no technical background. I have a 64mb Tmobile MDA (with the horrible branding) and the following setup:
R 1.00.10
G 1337.36
D 1.01.00 WWE
I've heard/seen references to big storage etc but I don't really understand it.
Can someone either give me:
- a really simple way to update my rom etc, or
- suggest another way to delete stuff that I won't need (don't want to delete stuff only to find half the programs no longer work)
- explain the easiest way to get rid of all the Tmobile stuff
Many thanks in advance
To prevent the Branding stuff from loadibg you must hard-reset your magician (backup first!!) and after the initialization (calibration etc) you must soft-reset just before the customization starts. You got about 3 to 5 seconds to press the softreset, so when your screen reads 'tap screen to start using ....' you put the stylus in soft-reset hole & then tap the screen. As soon as the default blue WM background appears you press the stylus to soft-reset.
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
To gain more storage you can move camera & album from \windows to storage folder. Remember to change shortcuts & registry as well. This saves ariund 1MB. More is possible: I've got < 8MB ram memory allocated to installed stuff with almost all ext-rom cabs installed. Yes I moved a lot.
To gain BIGstorage you can follow instructions below, but first you should get more familiar with the magician I guess. You can save your ext-rom cabs though & update to rom 1.13
url in instructions. To upgrade you just connect the magician to usb & start the downloaded shipped-rom & follow the instructions. Make a backup first & write down your gprs settings, caus you'll have dutch ext-rom cabs after the update. They're in English but contain dutch TMO settings.
Instruction for BS:
- Get nbfdec.exe from the thread 'Upg to 1.13 WWE ROM (with 1.13 Radio) in 10 easy steps!' @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&start=0&sid=75c5e40168a22052fb7c5554bddd68c2
- get maupgradeut_noid.exe from the ftp
- Download the shipped rom from:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
- Download the Hexeditor from:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html
1. Unzip NL_11300_131_11200.exe (or any other shipped rom)
2. Put NBFDEC in the same directory as the unzipped shipped rom files
3. Copy the getdevicedata.exe to your Magician and execute to write DeviceData.txt
to \Windows and view with notepad
5. Decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1:
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
6. Hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt
(probably only if using a rom from other provider)
7. Replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor:
locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 in the nk.nb1
(use binary search for this!!)
7. Encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
8. run maupgradeut_noid.exe to upgrade CE image
Also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
Regards, M
Many thanks OLTP for your reply....perhaps it's me but I still find that quite technical....when I have to rename stuff etc I'm not sure where it is to do it.
The tmobile branding piece is clear and I'll have a stab at that tonight though.
Perhaps I'm just destined to struggle with memory or buy a 128mb device.
Appreciate you taking the time though - anyone else want to have a pop at help a keen but useless gadget lover !
BS is unfortunately quite technical & this is the easiest way.
I suggest to remove the branding, that will save some storage. get more accustomed to your magician by exploring it without changing.
I can write you some steps for moving files to gain more ram.
maybe in the future you can think about BS again.
Cheers, M
pna: oltp's guide is about the best you'll ever get!
Basically, to debrand, do what he says in the first paragraph. This will remove all the additional TMobile gunk being installed. So, you need to hard reset (which will restore your system to "factory condition", and wipe everything), and then soft reset at the right time. Then you have a nice, fresh clean system. You can then read the board to see what files you might have skipped by achieving this, but frankly, you won't have missed much.
You can get your tmobile settings (for gprs etc) from here:
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sp3_setup.ihtml
FYI, before doing anything, get hold of a copy of GSFinder+ or a similar explorer. You will need it do any kind of installing/renaming etc.
Before venturing into the hardrest/soft reset business, consider if you want to do the big storage hack. Again, oltp's guide is perfect, but first the theory: the Extended Rom is like a small disk stuck inside your phone, carrying "backups" of the tmobile configuration stuff. If you do Bigstorage, it'll free that space for your use, giving you an extra 20mb or so to use for free. You can install stuff in there, and use it as a small, but bigger, disk to store stuff on. There's no reason not to do it, other than it's difficulty:
Difficulty? Yes, it takes some time, but instructions are provided, and clarified by oltp, so just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.
It does require some knowledge, or confidence to learn.
So ideally, you want to:
1. Backup any files you want to keep.
2. Do Bigstorage.
3. Skip extended rom rubbish.
However, before you worry about bigstorage or anything technical, I suggest you just do this: clean up your system as it is now, and then just in future remember to install every program you want directly to your SD Card. If you do that, your system will generally have more than enough memory to run well. You can skip all the bigstorage and extended rom business. It's only necessary for those on a particularly tight memory budget. This should be fine for your needs I think.
FYI: to install onto your SD card, always choose NOT to use "main memory" when installing from your PC, or on the PDA, download and use a great program called cabinstl. That will allow you to install to your SD card.
V
oltp said:
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
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oltp, do you mean I cant rename, move, or delete any of the files in extended rom? So its safe even if they show?
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
Sure,
You can use bal666's tool to convert the ext-rom part of a romdump to a diskimage which you can mount under Windows XP, with appropriate software ofcourse.
Then you can do whatever you want with your ext-rom. Requires flashing of your magician & a hard-reset.
For starters I recommend to skip executing of the ext-rom by applying a soft-reset just before the custmization starts after a hard-reset. This way you won't cripple your device.
M
Many thanks OLTP & vjay555,
The branding thing worked a dream and saved me 6mb.
Now want to do big storage. Have got all the downloads ready but just need a bit more help on the 1-8 settings.
I'm really sorry that I need such basic help - haven't really got a clue what I'm doing but prepared to give it a go - please help.
1. No problem with this...even I can do this.
2. Where is this...I assume I move them to the Magician using explore (through activesynch) - am I right...if so, is there an obvious place that the unzipped shipped rom files will be.
3. Can't find a copy of getdevicedata.exe, Where do i find it, and then how do I execute to write DeviceData.txt
5. Afraid I don't know how to do this
6. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
7. How do I do this
8. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
Also, a little confused in the section after no 8 - what do I do here?
Hope you haven't lost patience with me. Hope to hear back soon.
Cheers
Paul,
I recently updated the wiki (top right link on each forum page & go to the howto part of the magician section) with the BIG Storage from shipped-rom method. This contains some more info than this thread. Pls read it & mail me the remaining questions, you've got my email-address. I'll add some extra help then.
Cheers, M
Trying to download latest UK rom on WIKI site but the link to this ROM is not working: OS 1.12.00 / ExtROM 1.12.131 / Radio 1.12
Any ideas?
Ta
Yep a broken link, pls use this to go to the shipped rom section from the ftp: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/
Maybe I take the time tomorrow to check some of the links
btw latest uk-rom should be 1.13WWE from TMO.
nm8 said:
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
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you may want to check this out at htt*://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=395&PN=1. it is based on bal666 info. go check it out.
That's about romcooking and can be found herevas well. It's no BS hack.
Yes, it's no BS. But just a little info for nm8 to do ext rom customizations from his last reply.

llbasha - Latest WM5 using AKU3.5 - with KitchenUtnsils

Read end of post for updates .. Thank you .......
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WM2005 AKU3.5 by LLBASHA
ROM: 3.50pp16a1
dated: 02.02.2007
OS 5.1.195 (Build 15698.3.5.0)
RamDisk 48mb
PagePool 16mb
Storage 30.53mb
Program 61.29mb
For Himalaya PH10B (XDAii MDA2 Qtec2020 Imate Pocket PC)
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Hi everybody,
This is, I guess, what MANY, I believe, is looking for.
A good clean stable and fast WM5 rom based on AKU3.5 that you can change easily to your liking... right?
Well, your wishes come true. Here you will find my new ROM, the tools, and procedure to modify it!!!
It does NOT include ANY personal info.
It include clean original splash screen theme
It includes lots of Today-plug-in that you can disable if you do not want (disabled by default).
Modifications involve, beside adding & removing files, changes of hklm.reg, hkcu.reg, default.hv, and system initflashfiles.dat files. The ROM has been optimized to the extremes, hence if you decided you want to modify it please make sure what ever you add MUST be less or equal to what ever you delete.
It took me continuous 10 days of work and 8 flashes to get this procedure and ROM right.
I have tested the room and it works perfect ... however, please forgive me if I have overlooked something.
Note: I suggest you test the rom BEFORE you install any extra programs of your own ... and then again AFTER installation... so you can determine the source of the problem or the violating program, if any.
If you want to automate the installation of additional programs, stick the cabs file in the ExtROM directory in the SD-card and edit the config.txt accordingly.
To use the modification tools, just drop your favourit NK.NPF file in the RomEditor directory and click on steps 1 to 7 and follow the prompt.
It could not be easier ... Well, is it??? You will soon find out!!!!!!!!!!
Final word of thanks to tjlabais for his detailed tutorial, scripts and support. Many thanks to Mamaich for his incredible tools, as well as to Helmi_c, Buzz_lighter, Tofclock, and all those who contributed indirectly or in the past to get WM5 working on our Himalaya.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6FCT36YH
Filesize: 27.96 MB
Filename: llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.rar
Description: llbasha Himalaya WM5-AKU35pp16a1
Good luck and enjoy.
LLBASHA
Note: You can refer to tjlabais original tutorial here:
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_phorum&Itemid=125&phorum_query=read,26,27196,page=1
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Edit1: Guys, please note I did not invent the wheel here!!! I only picked already existing work and put it into organized specific working method with example (my rom). So please no nag where did I get this or that from. What I am giving you here is next to perfect ROM that you CAN edit to suit your own taste.
Edit2: This method is NOT for new users - noob. It is NOT like the kitchen method. Also, question about the tools should be posted in the original thread by tjlabais.
Edit3: If you have problem download from MegaUpload, use this one: http://www.4shared.com/file/10238126/881bdc5f/llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.html?s=1
Edit4: Copy this file: \windows\iexplore.lnk to to here: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\iexplore.lnk
Edit5: If you have slow startup or problem delete this file: \Windows\StartUp\psShutXP.lnk
Edit6: I got report of 500+ downlaods and 2000+ views bu no reports here on anything. Please file in your actual experence so others can benefit, regarding the ROM itself or the RomEditor tools. Thank you.
Edit7: Changing ramdisk size from registery only is not sufficient to pass the difference to program. New versions shall be released soon with different ramdisk size, but will keep 16mb pagepool.
Edit8: an new update rom version with 96mb program 16 ramdisk 16 pagepole
has been posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294016
New Version here
WM2005 AKU3.5 by LLBASHA
ROM: 3.50pp16A2
dated: 13.02.2007
OS 5.1.195 (Build 15698.3.5.0)
RamDisk 48mb
PagePool16mb
Storage 30.53mb
Program 64mb
For Himalaya PH10B (XDAii MDA2 Qtec2020 Imate Pocket PC)
This version is basically a simple update. Changes from version 3.50pp16a1
Removed SpeedDial and InternetCachiClean
Added cLaunch (great free today plugin)
Fixed startup delay caused by psShutXP
Fixed links and arranged icons in folders.
No known problem has been reported after intial version 450 downloads
Filesize: 28.0 MB (29,410,652 bytes)
Filename: llbasha-WM2005-AKU35pp16A2.rar
Description: llbasha Himalaya WM2005-AKU35pp16A2
Download links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GVFL6OJD
http://www.4shared.com/file/10571804/ce7f3d8c/llbasha-WM2005-AKU35pp16A2.html
I have uploaded an alternative version, details of it you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1168356&postcount=79
It is not an upgrade to above but rather a special version custom made requested by some members.
Total download to date 3100+
Enjoy
llbasha
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llbasha - Latest WM5 using AKU3.5 - more screen shots
Here are some new screen shots
Engjoy
llbasha
THANX A lot
thanx for this rom. U have done a good job cause u had not puted any personal info and non removable applications.
CAN u tell me how can i change sms background as u did
Alternative download from here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/1965106/cd5aba6f/sharing.html
I hope this works better.
llbasha
does it give also on German ?
Tahnks llbasha
While I'm dowenloading:
1) Do u mean that u include the cooking way in ur uploads?
I read the tutorial u mention and it was not clear for me (as the subject here 4 the Ramdisk and pagepool, by the way thanks 4 the explanation there)
I hope u can find time to make some easy explanation.
The_hesham said:
Tahnks llbasha
While I'm dowenloading:
1) Do u mean that u include the cooking way in ur uploads?
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Yes, I did put all the cooking tools and steps to take to modify ANY rom to your liking.
llbasha
Question started
Dear llbasha
Please explain more:
In the text file "llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.txt
5. If you want to change the image/rom version (show on first splash screen bottom right corner), Go to address: 19, 82CDF, 1C1C18
search for old version and replace it with exact number of digits.
6. If you want to change the rom version and date that show when accessing device information from settings, search for the version in unicode, and the date stamp in ANSI.
7- Save your file and run 6ReassembleNPF.bat
[Correction is 7ReassembleNPF.bat]
And
In step no. 2
"When done, remove all HIDDEN attributes for ALL files.
Note: use Registery Workshop as editor for HKLM & HKCU even if nothing changed (not all rom modifications would require registery editing), i.e. open the file and save again irrespective)."
Please explain?
The_hesham said:
Dear llbasha
Please explain more:
In the text file "llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.txt
5. If you want to change the image/rom version (show on first splash screen bottom right corner), Go to address: 19, 82CDF, 1C1C18
search for old version and replace it with exact number of digits.
llbasha: Open the nk.nba with hex editor... search for the older version you want to change. In my case, I find it at the above addresses. This process change only the image version that you see on first splash screen... ok
6. If you want to change the rom version and date that show when accessing device information from settings, search for the version in unicode, and the date stamp in ANSI.
llbasha: The same version shows also when you start you device, go to settings, device info. To change this, again open nk.npa with hex editor and search for it but in this case search using unicode. To change the date of the version, search for the old version date in ANSI and when you find it change it... OK
7- Save your file and run 6ReassembleNPF.bat
[Correction is 7ReassembleNPF.bat]
llbasha: There is no 6........bat anyway. Thanks
And
In step no. 2
"When done, remove all HIDDEN attributes for ALL files.
llbasha: I suspected that some hidden files may not be picked up by the compiler, so I removed all hiden attributes ...
Note: use Registery Workshop as editor for HKLM & HKCU even if nothing changed (not all rom modifications would require registery editing), i.e. open the file and save again irrespective)."
llbasha: What do you want me to explain? ... please rephrase..
Please explain?
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I hope this helps
Some Apps like Schekar rom...
Hi,
Is this screeshots from your new ROM?
I think there is some apps like Schekar ROM presente in this new rom.
I've returned to Helmi's rom, just because is almost 100% clean.
Thanks anyway for your work.
zipzop said:
does it give also on German ?
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Sorry ... This is English ROM but sure there is someone out there who knows how to localize it.
Regards
llbash
superxx said:
Hi,
Is this screeshots from your new ROM?
I think there is some apps like Schekar ROM presente in this new rom.
I've returned to Helmi's rom, just because is almost 100% clean.
Thanks anyway for your work.
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Yes, above screen shoots are from my rom on my O2XDAii and no one else.
This is clean ROM ... what are you taking about??? Please be specific... What is 100% clean???????????
There was some remaining space in the rom so I filled it with some VERY small today plugin and utilities and are disabled by default. So where is the problem. This remaing space you can't use it anyway once you cocked the rom.
Any I included the tools and steps to remove/add to your liking... So....
Hello Sir,
I will try to use this rom frist.Thank you to much.
sorry
Hello Sir,
After I use it .Almost OK but my Internet exploer icon lost .How I get it back ?
krishan2207 said:
HI
i found a bug.Whenever i tried to open download agent it opens with a blank screen nothing to do in that application so check it out.
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Where did you get that??????????????
Are you talking about my ROM??????????????
Question started ....contenue
llbasha said:
I hope this helps
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Dear llbasha
The_hesham: regarding no.5
I search for 19, 82CDF, 1C1C18 as shown ,
Then what to do?
Regarding no.6
6. If you want to change the rom version and date that show when accessing device information from settings, search for the version in unicode, and the date stamp in ANSI.
llbasha: The same version shows also when you start you device, go to settings, device info. To change this, again open nk.npa with hex editor and search for it but in this case search using unicode. To change the date of the version, search for the old version date in ANSI and when you find it change it... OK
The_hesham: Search for what see photo no4 & How to change?
Regarding step no.2
llbasha: I suspected that some hidden files may not be picked up by the compiler, so I removed all hiden attributes
The_hesham: Do u mean to delet all hidden files & which files I suspect it will not be picked by the compiler?
Regarding :
Note: use Registery Workshop as editor for HKLM & HKCU even if nothing changed (not all rom modifications would require registery editing), i.e. open the file and save again irrespective)."
The_hesham: Which workshop as editor & which file to edit?
I'm sorry for to much questions but I did cooking by bepe tools and I want to know about this way.
sorrawut said:
Hello Sir,
After I use it .Almost OK but my Internet exploer icon lost .How I get it back ?
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Copy this file: \windows\iexplore.lnk
to here: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\iexplore.lnk
Thanks
llbasha said:
Copy this file: \windows\iexplore.lnk
to here: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\iexplore.lnk
Thanks
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Thank Sir,
krishan2207 said:
thanx for this rom. U have done a good job cause u had not puted any personal info and non removable applications.
CAN u tell me how can i change sms background as u did
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Do you know about HTML, STYLEs, and JAVA scripting???????????
If you do then you want be asking this question, and if you do not know then my answer to you is I do not either!!!!!!!!!!!
You need an expert from Delhi to answer this. Do you know anyone??? May be you can ask him about your 'download agent bug' problem as well.
Thanks

Customizing .nb0 (ROM) files

Hi everyone,
My PDA support center distributes updated roms in "nb0" file format, I was wondering if anyone could help me throught openning this file and doing some modification. Since there are many unusefull applications inside it and I want to delete or subsitite them. I read some topics about cooking roms in forum but I cann't find any information about customizing "nb0" files.
Thanks!
Pedram
Fortunetly, I could dump content of ".nb0" file with tools provided here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249836 (Beta: WM5 ROM editing tool). I got pleanty of files in dump folder. It's har for me to diffrentiate which file is which!
Could any one help me to find my voice command application inside this dumped rom and repalce it with another voice commmand application such as MS voice command?
There are some files and directories with this name in my dumped rom:
VoiceBar.dll, VoiceCtl.dll, voicedll.dll, VBarCall.dll, VCOMCtl.dll
I am really confused! I do not know what files should I delete or where copy new files.
Thanks in advanced.
i want to change my windows mobile 6.1 os 64mb rom to 128mb but i cant find any editing tool. im using asus p535 and rom file GalaxyII_new.nb0 like that.
moved to Q&A

where are .dsm files?

Sorry for my English ...
I'm trying to learn how to build a kitchen and I followed the BEPE's guides perfectly but I have a problem:
When I use "NBHextract.exe" on "RUU_signed.nbh" the file that I get is "00_OS.nb" and not "OS.nb" as in BEPE's guide, same for the file "00_OS.nb.playload" has the same characteristics, and I know not explain why.
Also, I can not use in any way the "packagebuilder" tool to rebuild the "xip" folder because after having dumped "00_OS.nb.playload" the xip folder that I know, does not contain within it the file "*. dsm " essential to the operation of the tool.
can someone help me? (sorry but I translate before answering for now)
Thank you!
PS: other problem..
When I use "Dump_800" on "00_OS.nb" the files that I get are "00_OS.nb.playload", the IMGFS folder and the IMGFS.BIN.
This IMGFS.BIN was to be automatically erased at the end of the process of dumping, but strangely still active and has a size of about 63 MB, and in the prompt window, at the end of the process of dumping, i read this:
C:\xxxxxxxxxx\IMGFS.BIN
Access denied.
Where I wrong?
Thanx 4 all..
Any idea?...
Anything?...
That relief, then I am not the only one who does not understand anything!
ciko84xp said:
Any idea?...
Anything?...
That relief, then I am not the only one who does not understand anything!
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I can't help you either ... try to PM one of the Chef you knew from the forum.
ciko84xp said:
Sorry for my English ...
I'm trying to learn how to build a kitchen and I followed the BEPE's guides perfectly but I have a problem:
When I use "NBHextract.exe" on "RUU_signed.nbh" the file that I get is "00_OS.nb" and not "OS.nb" as in BEPE's guide, same for the file "00_OS.nb.playload" has the same characteristics, and I know not explain why.
Also, I can not use in any way the "packagebuilder" tool to rebuild the "xip" folder because after having dumped "00_OS.nb.playload" the xip folder that I know, does not contain within it the file "*. dsm " essential to the operation of the tool.
can someone help me? (sorry but I translate before answering for now)
Thank you!
PS: other problem..
When I use "Dump_800" on "00_OS.nb" the files that I get are "00_OS.nb.playload", the IMGFS folder and the IMGFS.BIN.
This IMGFS.BIN was to be automatically erased at the end of the process of dumping, but strangely still active and has a size of about 63 MB, and in the prompt window, at the end of the process of dumping, i read this:
C:\xxxxxxxxxx\IMGFS.BIN
Access denied.
Where I wrong?
Thanx 4 all..
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What rom are you trying to dump? if it is a custom rom....built by the new kitchen, it won't be dumpable. You will have to get a base from a chef or dump a factory rom.
parleyp said:
What rom are you trying to dump? if it is a custom rom....built by the new kitchen, it won't be dumpable. You will have to get a base from a chef or dump a factory rom.
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I downloaded this "RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship", which should be the Official HTC ROM for TYTN II (my device), but I have the same errors described in the first post using the BEPE's kitchen!
What do you mean by "You will have to get a base from a chef?
I do not believe that any chef would give me his base, should give me the entire folder containing the kitchen built! Or not?
sorry for my english...
I try to dump the various types of ROM, but I always make the same mistakes! I do not know how ... believe me I tried all possible solutions!
But I do not surrender ... sooner or later arrive at a solution! Even at the cost of start over with another kitchen!
How many kitchens are there? tell me if you know there are others beyond that of bepe?
I am having the same issue with Bepes kitchen - I have the official signed rom from Sprint for the Mogul and every time I try to use dump_800.bat on the OS.nb file, it fails and says access is denied...
ciko84xp said:
sorry for my english...
I try to dump the various types of ROM, but I always make the same mistakes! I do not know how ... believe me I tried all possible solutions!
But I do not surrender ... sooner or later arrive at a solution! Even at the cost of start over with another kitchen!
How many kitchens are there? tell me if you know there are others beyond that of bepe?
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There is KaiserKitchen by _Alex_ or KaiserChef by mbarvian and a few others - They both exist on the Wiki.
If the IMGFS.bin won't delete it's not that bad, just try and delete it afterwards.
If you are getting 00_OS.nb it might not be the orginal nbh you are dumping. I get 03_OS.nb when I dump the 3.34 HTC Kaiser ROM (which I rename to OS.nb before dumping). I also get 00_Unknown.nb, 01_SPL.nb 02_MainSplash.bmp (and .nb). Do you get any other nb files?
What the link for the ROM, and why are you using that one for the base? There are newer builds (like the 3.34).
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
There is KaiserKitchen by _Alex_ or KaiserChef by mbarvian and a few others - They both exist on the Wiki.
If the IMGFS.bin won't delete it's not that bad, just try and delete it afterwards.
If you are getting 00_OS.nb it might not be the orginal nbh you are dumping. I get 03_OS.nb when I dump the 3.34 HTC Kaiser ROM (which I rename to OS.nb before dumping). I also get 00_Unknown.nb, 01_SPL.nb 02_MainSplash.bmp (and .nb). Do you get any other nb files?
What the link for the ROM, and why are you using that one for the base? There are newer builds (like the 3.34).
Ta
Dave
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Sorry for my english.. i try to write wath i want tell you....
Problem solved... with "KaiserKitchen" by _Alex_ I have solved all problem with one file called "KaiserKitchen.batch"... this little application, extract .nbh file, dump IMGFS.BIN and create a SYS and OEM folders, dump OS.nb.payload and create a XIP folder... ALL IN ONE STEP!!! IT'S FANTASTIC...!
Yesterday I have cooked and flashed my 1st ROM... really ruins... but the feel thrill don't have comparisons!!!
Now i don't understand wath should i do to take the SYS folder by one ROM and build inside another ROM.. ex. i want to take the SYS folder by your ROM and build in my own ROM...! to do this, i need to copy also your XIP folder?
Sorry for the english and for the ignorance... but I'm beginners for now...!
ciko84xp said:
Sorry for my english.. i try to write wath i want tell you....
Problem solved... with "KaiserKitchen" by _Alex_ I have solved all problem with one file called "KaiserKitchen.batch"... this little application, extract .nbh file, dump IMGFS.BIN and create a SYS and OEM folders, dump OS.nb.payload and create a XIP folder... ALL IN ONE STEP!!! IT'S FANTASTIC...!
Yesterday I have cooked and flashed my 1st ROM... really ruins... but the feel thrill don't have comparisons!!!
Now i don't understand wath should i do to take the SYS folder by one ROM and build inside another ROM.. ex. i want to take the SYS folder by your ROM and build in my own ROM...! to do this, i need to copy also your XIP folder?
Sorry for the english and for the ignorance... but I'm beginners for now...!
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There are a few tutorials on porting the SYS and XIP. The concept in bepe's kitchen videos is the same for the SYS in most kitchens (be aware of resolution and language specific files).
For the XIP, have a read around, there are many threads and tutorials on how to do it. But normally the XIP and SYS versions should match (or be very close).
Dave
DaveShaw said:
There are a few tutorials on porting the SYS and XIP. The concept in bepe's kitchen videos is the same for the SYS in most kitchens (be aware of resolution and language specific files).
For the XIP, have a read around, there are many threads and tutorials on how to do it. But normally the XIP and SYS versions should match (or be very close).
Dave
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ok Dave.. I follow your advice! then you story if I have made progress ...! thanks!

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