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Storage Problems for a non developer

Hi
I know there are lots of people asking how to save space and mostly they get told to use 'search' and check the stickys.
I'm a keen gadget lover but have no technical background. I have a 64mb Tmobile MDA (with the horrible branding) and the following setup:
R 1.00.10
G 1337.36
D 1.01.00 WWE
I've heard/seen references to big storage etc but I don't really understand it.
Can someone either give me:
- a really simple way to update my rom etc, or
- suggest another way to delete stuff that I won't need (don't want to delete stuff only to find half the programs no longer work)
- explain the easiest way to get rid of all the Tmobile stuff
Many thanks in advance

To prevent the Branding stuff from loadibg you must hard-reset your magician (backup first!!) and after the initialization (calibration etc) you must soft-reset just before the customization starts. You got about 3 to 5 seconds to press the softreset, so when your screen reads 'tap screen to start using ....' you put the stylus in soft-reset hole & then tap the screen. As soon as the default blue WM background appears you press the stylus to soft-reset.
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
To gain more storage you can move camera & album from \windows to storage folder. Remember to change shortcuts & registry as well. This saves ariund 1MB. More is possible: I've got < 8MB ram memory allocated to installed stuff with almost all ext-rom cabs installed. Yes I moved a lot.
To gain BIGstorage you can follow instructions below, but first you should get more familiar with the magician I guess. You can save your ext-rom cabs though & update to rom 1.13
url in instructions. To upgrade you just connect the magician to usb & start the downloaded shipped-rom & follow the instructions. Make a backup first & write down your gprs settings, caus you'll have dutch ext-rom cabs after the update. They're in English but contain dutch TMO settings.
Instruction for BS:
- Get nbfdec.exe from the thread 'Upg to 1.13 WWE ROM (with 1.13 Radio) in 10 easy steps!' @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&start=0&sid=75c5e40168a22052fb7c5554bddd68c2
- get maupgradeut_noid.exe from the ftp
- Download the shipped rom from:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
- Download the Hexeditor from:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html
1. Unzip NL_11300_131_11200.exe (or any other shipped rom)
2. Put NBFDEC in the same directory as the unzipped shipped rom files
3. Copy the getdevicedata.exe to your Magician and execute to write DeviceData.txt
to \Windows and view with notepad
5. Decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1:
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
6. Hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt
(probably only if using a rom from other provider)
7. Replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor:
locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 in the nk.nb1
(use binary search for this!!)
7. Encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
8. run maupgradeut_noid.exe to upgrade CE image
Also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
Regards, M

Many thanks OLTP for your reply....perhaps it's me but I still find that quite technical....when I have to rename stuff etc I'm not sure where it is to do it.
The tmobile branding piece is clear and I'll have a stab at that tonight though.
Perhaps I'm just destined to struggle with memory or buy a 128mb device.
Appreciate you taking the time though - anyone else want to have a pop at help a keen but useless gadget lover !

BS is unfortunately quite technical & this is the easiest way.
I suggest to remove the branding, that will save some storage. get more accustomed to your magician by exploring it without changing.
I can write you some steps for moving files to gain more ram.
maybe in the future you can think about BS again.
Cheers, M

pna: oltp's guide is about the best you'll ever get!
Basically, to debrand, do what he says in the first paragraph. This will remove all the additional TMobile gunk being installed. So, you need to hard reset (which will restore your system to "factory condition", and wipe everything), and then soft reset at the right time. Then you have a nice, fresh clean system. You can then read the board to see what files you might have skipped by achieving this, but frankly, you won't have missed much.
You can get your tmobile settings (for gprs etc) from here:
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sp3_setup.ihtml
FYI, before doing anything, get hold of a copy of GSFinder+ or a similar explorer. You will need it do any kind of installing/renaming etc.
Before venturing into the hardrest/soft reset business, consider if you want to do the big storage hack. Again, oltp's guide is perfect, but first the theory: the Extended Rom is like a small disk stuck inside your phone, carrying "backups" of the tmobile configuration stuff. If you do Bigstorage, it'll free that space for your use, giving you an extra 20mb or so to use for free. You can install stuff in there, and use it as a small, but bigger, disk to store stuff on. There's no reason not to do it, other than it's difficulty:
Difficulty? Yes, it takes some time, but instructions are provided, and clarified by oltp, so just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.
It does require some knowledge, or confidence to learn.
So ideally, you want to:
1. Backup any files you want to keep.
2. Do Bigstorage.
3. Skip extended rom rubbish.
However, before you worry about bigstorage or anything technical, I suggest you just do this: clean up your system as it is now, and then just in future remember to install every program you want directly to your SD Card. If you do that, your system will generally have more than enough memory to run well. You can skip all the bigstorage and extended rom business. It's only necessary for those on a particularly tight memory budget. This should be fine for your needs I think.
FYI: to install onto your SD card, always choose NOT to use "main memory" when installing from your PC, or on the PDA, download and use a great program called cabinstl. That will allow you to install to your SD card.
V

oltp said:
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
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oltp, do you mean I cant rename, move, or delete any of the files in extended rom? So its safe even if they show?

Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M

oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers

Sure,
You can use bal666's tool to convert the ext-rom part of a romdump to a diskimage which you can mount under Windows XP, with appropriate software ofcourse.
Then you can do whatever you want with your ext-rom. Requires flashing of your magician & a hard-reset.
For starters I recommend to skip executing of the ext-rom by applying a soft-reset just before the custmization starts after a hard-reset. This way you won't cripple your device.
M

Many thanks OLTP & vjay555,
The branding thing worked a dream and saved me 6mb.
Now want to do big storage. Have got all the downloads ready but just need a bit more help on the 1-8 settings.
I'm really sorry that I need such basic help - haven't really got a clue what I'm doing but prepared to give it a go - please help.
1. No problem with this...even I can do this.
2. Where is this...I assume I move them to the Magician using explore (through activesynch) - am I right...if so, is there an obvious place that the unzipped shipped rom files will be.
3. Can't find a copy of getdevicedata.exe, Where do i find it, and then how do I execute to write DeviceData.txt
5. Afraid I don't know how to do this
6. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
7. How do I do this
8. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
Also, a little confused in the section after no 8 - what do I do here?
Hope you haven't lost patience with me. Hope to hear back soon.
Cheers

Paul,
I recently updated the wiki (top right link on each forum page & go to the howto part of the magician section) with the BIG Storage from shipped-rom method. This contains some more info than this thread. Pls read it & mail me the remaining questions, you've got my email-address. I'll add some extra help then.
Cheers, M

Trying to download latest UK rom on WIKI site but the link to this ROM is not working: OS 1.12.00 / ExtROM 1.12.131 / Radio 1.12
Any ideas?
Ta

Yep a broken link, pls use this to go to the shipped rom section from the ftp: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/
Maybe I take the time tomorrow to check some of the links
btw latest uk-rom should be 1.13WWE from TMO.

nm8 said:
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
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you may want to check this out at htt*://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=395&PN=1. it is based on bal666 info. go check it out.

That's about romcooking and can be found herevas well. It's no BS hack.

Yes, it's no BS. But just a little info for nm8 to do ext rom customizations from his last reply.

New WM6 ROM kitchen (from Ranju)

Hello Friends,
I have managed the new WM6 kitchen based on Ivan's new (17913.0.3.0) build. This is a clean vanilla kitchen, you can add your own flavor and the way you want it.
I've uploaded the kitchen to the following url and hope that you will like it.
http://www.siemens-bd.net/files/000000
Files have been splited into 10 parts (5MB each) because of my unstable internet connection here. Uploading a 50MB file for me is simply a nightmare! Please download all of them and unrar.
You will find two cmd files (1. BuildKitchen.cmd and 2. CreateROM.cmd) inside the ROM_DEV folder after the unrar.
Step-1: Run the BuildKitchen.cmd (first time only), it will dump the rom and prepare the kitchen for you.
[Additionally, you may use it to dump other WM6 rom and prepare the kitchen. In that case, decode the rom, copy (or overwrite) the nk.nba file to the ROM folder and run this cmd to build the kitchen.]
Step-2: Run the CreateROM.cmd to build the rom...as usual.
You will find a Ranju_OEM folder under the ROM_DEV folder. Some of the oem packages have been added if anyone is interested to use. Just copy your desired packages to the OEM folder and build the rom.
And finally, all credit goes to Ivan. Special thanx to Helmi, Midget, Bepe and Tuatara for their tools and support.
By the way, I've a limited bandwidth to this server, it will be great if someone mirror it somewhere.
Best regards,
Ranju

ranju said:
By the way, I've a limited bandwidth to this server, it will be great if someone mirror it somewhere.
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Mirrored:
http://vidmes.com/Uni/Kitchens/ranju/ROM_DEV.rar
(btw My mirror has a Bandwidth limit of 3Tb per month...)

TehPenguin said:
Mirrored:
http://vidmes.com/Uni/Kitchens/ranju/ROM_DEV.rar
(btw My mirror has a Bandwidth limit of 3Tb per month...)
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Hi TehPenguin, thank you very much.

Thanks to ranju and thanks to tehpenguin!

ranju said:
I have managed the new WM6 kitchen based on Ivan's new (17913.0.3.0) build. This is a clean vanilla kitchen, you can add your own flavor and the way you want it.
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Thx for the new kitchen. Based on V3, correct?
Could you please clarify the 1st post?
Clean Vanilla: What did you remove from the ROM?
Cheers

Download
Extract
BuildKitchen
CreateRom
BuildOS stops on error: the file 'temp\dump\Thumbs.db' already exists

I've just checked the OEM folder.
Very good Job: just like i was thinking. Probably I don't need any other apps for OEM.
THX!!!

tailazoom said:
Download
Extract
BuildKitchen
CreateRom
BuildOS stops on error: the file 'temp\dump\Thumbs.db' already exists
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Did you modify any cmd file?
If not, then delete the temp folder. Do a search on SYS & OEM for "Thumbs.db" and delete them if found any. Run the CreateROM.cmd.
I suppose "Thumbs.db" have been created by your picture browser apps.

"Thumbs.db" is a file that Windows XP (and Vista) create if you preview a picture or movie. Its not important at all (although Windows will complain that it is a "System File")
(Nifty fact: Windows XP can create the "thumbs.db" file in a read-only network share!)

Thanks for the info, i'll try deleting and recompile.
Deleted, compiled and flashed: every essential function i tested is working. The kitchen is very clean! Many thanks ranju!

Little update of the kitchen
This is a little update of the kitchen:
* Due to the slow response of the phone, dialing/ending tone have been removed
* Update for HTC Task Manager 1.5 (Exclusive apps can be added now)
Please download the zip and copy/replace to the associated folder.
Update: HTC Task Manager cab attached.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=40327&d=1180503183

ranju said:
This is a little update of the kitchen:
* Due to the slow response of the phone, dialing/ending tone have been removed
* Update for HTC Task Manager 1.5 (Exclusive apps can be added now)
Please download the zip and copy/replace to the associated folder.
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Can you please make a cab of it so that we can install. Dont want to go through re in stalling rom. Appreciate
Or if you can advice the registry entries for both above issues please.

Phone.cab
A cab file for the file in phone.zip is not that difficult since it's just a couple of registry entries.
The other one is more difficult since it also includes files.
So just to help a little, a cab file for the registry stuff in the phone.zip

Actually not that difficult
When comparing the old and new files, I noticed that just the RGU file is different.
Since this is the file with registry settings, I made a quick cab for it.
So not to replace the previous HTC Manager install or anything like that, just to corrent the registry entries.
ps. This and the previous file are not made/reviewed/anything by Ranju, but I've just given them him (her?) name to avoid confusion.

aniel1 said:
Can you please make a cab of it so that we can install. Dont want to go through re in stalling rom. Appreciate
Or if you can advice the registry entries for both above issues please.
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[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\Dialing]
"Sound"="dpadctl.mid"
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ending]
"Sound"="dpadctl.mid"
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\DialPadCtlKey]
"Sound"="dpadctl.mid"
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
Remove the line in bold above ("Sound"="dpadctl.mid") in the registry and it should like this:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\Dialing]
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
Set the value of "Script" to "apr" and it should like this. It will remove 3s ring delay.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0]
"Script"="apr"
Press the power button (off) after the changes and wait for 10 sec, switch on again and soft reset your device to take the changes in action...

GerardNL said:
When comparing the old and new files, I noticed that just the RGU file is different.
Since this is the file with registry settings, I made a quick cab for it.
So not to replace the previous HTC Manager install or anything like that, just to corrent the registry entries.
ps. This and the previous file are not made/reviewed/anything by Ranju, but I've just given them him (her?) name to avoid confusion.
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I tried but looks like the cab does not stick the enteries in the registry.Can you give me the registry entries so that i can try to insert them manually. thank you

ranju said:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\Dialing]
"Sound"="dpadctl.mid"
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\Ending]
"Sound"="dpadctl.mid"
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\DialPadCtlKey]
"Sound"="dpadctl.mid"
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
Remove the line in bold above ("Sound"="dpadctl.mid") in the registry and it should like this:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\Dialing]
"Script"="p"
"Category"="InCallFeedback"
Set the value of "Script" to "apr" and it should like this. It will remove 3s ring delay.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0]
"Script"="apr"
Press the power button (off) after the changes and wait for 10 sec, switch on again and soft reset your device to take the changes in action...
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thank you ranju. CAn you provide the registry entry for tak manager too, somehow the cab posted above doesnot stick in the registry and i still dont see exclusive/activate please

Third day of use (calls with bt headset/sms/excel) without any problem. Thanks again ranju!

ranju said:
.....
Remove the line in bold above ("Sound"="dpadctl.mid") in the registry and it should like this:
....
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Mmmm. Removing items from the registry.... Didn't think about that one. So that means that the 2 cabinet files I made will not work.
Back to the drawingboard...

Build my first Rom
I've this ROM kitchen few days back from one of my friends and was simply amazed when I build my first rom.
This is as easy!
Thanks ranju, keep up good work!

Cook or change ROM

Dear Friends,
I want to change my ROM (AKU3.3.13) because lack of main memory and i don't want some install program such as Live Update or... I want to change my ROM. and so I want to change my Ext_ROm
anyone can describe easily How can i do it?
I search the forum but I don't find suitable TOOLS and guide for AKU3.3.13 (WM5)
Please help me and tell me compltely software I needed for cooking (changing) ROM and ext_Rom and easily help.
Thanks

+4mb from non used app.
ebaskar said:
Dear Friends,
I want to change my ROM (AKU3.3.13) because lack of main memory and i don't want some install program such as Live Update or... I want to change my ROM. and so I want to change my Ext_ROm
anyone can describe easily How can i do it?
I search the forum but I don't find suitable TOOLS and guide for AKU3.3.13 (WM5)
Please help me and tell me compltely software I needed for cooking (changing) ROM and ext_Rom and easily help.
Thanks
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YEah i would like to get rid of some programs or applications i never used! Windows update, streaming media, calculator (as i use a 3rd party one), internet sharing... if i get 4mb free i could increase page-pool and reach 12mb
thanks in advance

why do you want to increase page pool size to 12 mb, the default is 12 in official rom and we decrease it to get more RAM, and it does not need more space to increase it

ebaskar said:
Dear Friends,
I want to change my ROM (AKU3.3.13) because lack of main memory and i don't want some install program such as Live Update or... I want to change my ROM. and so I want to change my Ext_ROm
anyone can describe easily How can i do it?
I search the forum but I don't find suitable TOOLS and guide for AKU3.3.13 (WM5)
Please help me and tell me compltely software I needed for cooking (changing) ROM and ext_Rom and easily help.
Thanks
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nobody can help us?

use IMGFS tools,
about the EXT rom use win Image
it is described here in so many web pages if you use search you can find a lot

paradis_pal said:
why do you want to increase page pool size to 12 mb, the default is 12 in official rom and we decrease it to get more RAM, and it does not need more space to increase it
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Please describe more...after I install AKU13 the free main memory was about 30MB and after I install some program suck as SPB and ...in storage card and main memory it is decreased to 20 MB.. I know that Operation System (WM5) installed in main memory IF i can unistall some program that I don't use in AKU3 it means the main memory is increased...am i true? if not please help...help about Memory in PPC.
I searched the software u say...but I can't understand because they use WM6 and my operation system is AKU13....please help more.
thanks

no not like that
please see the wiki how to cook a rom, and edit WM5 (it is the same as 6) and if you have any difficulty I can help with it
I can't explain all how to cook a rom.
ask particular question, not common question
but you will find all your need in the WIKI and the forum, if you can't find I will help
IMGFS 1.82 beta

paradis_pal said:
no not like that
please see the wiki how to cook a rom, and edit WM5 (it is the same as 6) and if you have any difficulty I can help with it
I can't explain all how to cook a rom.
ask particular question, not common question
but you will find all your need in the WIKI and the forum, if you can't find I will help
IMGFS 1.82 beta
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Dear Friend,
I want to remove :
contact Backup
Internet Sharing
Terminal Service Client
VNC Viewer
Windows Live messenger
windoes Live
...
from my AKU3.13 for increase size of main memory
Please Help

that will not increase the meomory, only you will have more useless space in the ROM you can;t use
or it may free the memory if you load them in the memoery (i.e. you run them or they are in startup programs, or they just ran in memory, like windows live messnger)
use taskmgr 2.7 to know what files in the memory and what services are runing, disable and close all useless programs and services and you have more free memoey
in the memory program how much total memory do you have?
in 12 mb pool size you will have 44.07 I think
in 8 mb pool size you will have 48 mb total memory and it is nothing to do with the ROM or programs in the ROM
I'm busy right now but I'll chek the ASERG 3.3.13 page pool for you ok, I did cook a room but for my needs 6 mb page pool size
I can't put room in the site I have dail up connecton very bad, slow and expensive becasue of the problem in the network as they told me, but as you from IRAN I asume you know about the internet her in SYRIA
sorry I wrie this too fast I forgot what I did write

Thanks for ur reply dear palestinian user.
If we can change the ROM, we can install more useful program in ROM then we don't need to install them on main memory or storage card.
I don't know about Internet in Syria. but I love Qods, Hezbollah and seyyed Hasan nasrollah

this why you need how to cook a ROM,
use IMGFS 1.82 for delete and add files
and use rgucomp for edit registry
see the wiki how to cook a ROM

paradis_pal said:
this why you need how to cook a ROM,
use IMGFS 1.82 for delete and add files
and use rgucomp for edit registry
see the wiki how to cook a ROM
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Dear Friend
I read all post about cooking ROM, but all of them are about WM6.
My main Question is:
1- How to change(cook) WM5 Rom (jamin) AKU3.13 ?
2- I use IMGFS but how can i access to the files and program that be in OS.nf file? to delete or add some of them.
3- BUILDOS.exe required in wiki said ! I don't find this file in this site !! and in the COOKING PACKAGE
so would u plz help me to cook AKU3.13 ROM for my Jamin (personal ROM)
Thanks

ebaskar said:
Dear Friend
I read all post about cooking ROM, but all of them are about WM6.
My main Question is:
1- How to change(cook) WM5 Rom (jamin) AKU3.13 ?
2- I use IMGFS but how can i access to the files and program that be in OS.nf file? to delete or add some of them.
3- BUILDOS.exe required in wiki said ! I don't find this file in this site !! and in the COOKING PACKAGE
so would u plz help me to cook AKU3.13 ROM for my Jamin (personal ROM)
Thanks
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Hey i cannot find the wiki how to cook a rom any help? i just saw that FARIA thing. I'd like to port a rom from wizard

use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful

paradis_pal said:
use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful
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BRAVO! heheh i am reading a lot today! THANK YOU!

paradis_pal said:
use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful
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Thank you for very good help.
So a question:
how can i know which files are for whic program? for example i want to remove Camera program, it have DLL files and more...or i want a program MSN Live...which dll are for selected program?
I want to Add Resco Explorer to this ROM..how can i do it?
I have an exe file for installing resco explorer/..or CAB file for Resco Explorer..so how can i put this program (add this program) to this ROM?
Thanks

dear you have a lot to explain I try help tomorrow I have exam now wish me luck

paradis_pal said:
dear you have a lot to explain I try help tomorrow I have exam now wish me luck
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I wish u luck dear,
Waiting for ur reply.
Thanks....
The best reply I read in this site was your reply about COOKING ROM

paradis_pal said:
use the following:
1- prepare_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
2- viewimgfs.exe imgfs_raw_data.bin ((((edit the files as you need in the dump folder))))
- or you may use addfile or delfile like this
DelFile.exe filename.ext (dependes on the file name and ext for example camera.exe)
AddFile.exe filename.ext (for example camera.exe newer version but put it in the same folder of ASERG rom to add it)
3- BuildImgfs.exe (if you edit files in the dump folder only)
4- make_imgfs.exe os.nb -nosplit
5- edit the folder ExtRom as you need you may delete the Russain keyboard
6- run Upgrade_rom.bat
and wish me best of luck as I have only bad luck if you find me useful
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Dear friend
How can i determine DLL, folders and all file for a program i want to change /delete or add to the ROM?

I'll be a little naughty
test my ROM and I'll tell you how

[UPD beta3] Microwave oven: TRANSLATE YOUR ROM - (for wizard only)

Hi ppl,
I've collected all the tools I use to translate roms from our chefs (God bless them). I don't want to steal anyone's work so the most of the credit should go to the creator of the tools I've packed, so all but Muiver, 2bytecut, Go.bat that were made by me.
It should be easy for everyone to make a translation following these steps (it's easier to do than to read ...):
1) Download and install windows PROFESSIONAL image in your language (source language) from here
2) Download your preferred foreign language (destination language) ROM (i.e. TNT or OCATIVOI or whatever ... )
3) copy the images over microwave dir, go to the command prompt and run GO "your language image file" "foreign language nbf file":
4) Let it run ... When Muiver opens up, set the right languages, pick your preferred options and hit GO.
MuiVer automatically looks for the right directories in the MS dump and copies it over the image that needs to be translated, modifying some files and making things you don't have to care about. At this stage you only have to choose, based on your (future) experience, what you want to copy and what not. The options are : Mui directories (OS), Other Mui files (OEMapplications), Other non MUI files (other language related files like staticdict); The more you copy, the most will be translated, more problem you may experience (missing texts, or applications that goes blank screen).
I suggest to always copy the MUI directories and experiment with other options.
5) You're nearly done only have to edit initflashfiles.dat according to your language. This file contains the localized name of some system directories and especially the start menu and start menu items names.
When wincmp opens up you will see two child windows: the left one is the file you have to edit, The right pane c0ntains the initflashfiles localized for your language. Edit the left one, according to what you can see in the right one and then "save source" from File menu. Take big care to the name of the "startup" dir (i.e. in italian it must be changed in "Esecuzione automatica") otherwise your rom won't start the customization (no screen alignment, no initial settings .. etc etc..). I suggest not to change the name of the links in the appbutton section however.
6) When nb2nbf opens up, set everything like always (look at the picture) and hit "translate" button
Flash your new translated rom (tools included)
It's a beta, just test .. I am quite happy with it. I'll update the script to run with other devices.
DOWNLOAD links beta3:
Rapidshare Download link
Mediafire Download link
Fixed beta3:
- Added a new tool to speed up initflashfiles.dat editing
Fixed beta2:
- Before flashing move or delete manually the file nk-old.nbf or the Updater could reflash that one in place of the translated one

it is good post, even in microwave oven cooked!

I think it doesn't work with ROMs that is >= 5.2.1620 because the shellresapps.dll.xxx.mui is incompatible with older versions?

Would someone be kind enough to translate TauRho3i to English.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332663
Anyone want to try?
-McMex

starkwong said:
I think it doesn't work with ROMs that is >= 5.2.1620 because the shellresapps.dll.xxx.mui is incompatible with older versions?
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If it's true, then remove the directory from dump.src dir before hitting "go" on muiver ... I'll check for it and handle the case in next version.
Would someone be kind enough to translate TauRho3i to English.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332663
Anyone want to try?
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Come on man ... you'have the tools now, why don't you try by yourself :|

can someone up load this tool to another host ? Ex: mediafire.com plz!
I'm having probs in downloading files from rapidshare

i'll try
mcmexican said:
Would someone be kind enough to translate TauRho3i to English.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332663
Anyone want to try?
-McMex
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i'll try
...but i'm waiting for my touchscreen

New tests shows that a very little number of .mui files (out of .mui dirs) are compatible with our WM6 releases ... for safe translations, do not copy them at all (MuiVer->File->options->Other Mui Files -> ignore all)
Hint: Take a look to the initFlashfiles.dat in the dump.src dir before editing the new one.
medkid said:
can someone up load this tool to another host ? Ex: mediafire.com plz!
I'm having probs in downloading files from rapidshare
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Done
@Taurho: Take a look at the ROMUpdateUtility.exe

TauRho said:
i'll try
...but i'm waiting for my touchscreen
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If I would have known I have a bricked 8125 sitting on my desk. But thank you.
-McMex

Working on TauRho3 WWE
mcmexican said:
If I would have known I have a bricked 8125 sitting on my desk. But thank you.
-McMex
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one colleague of mine... and my first beta-tester has lent me his WIZ (only for weekend, of course)!
so....I take back the development!!!
and TauRho4 WWE is arriving
...hummmm sunday morning! (italy time)

Great job! I am so expecting tools like this, thanks.
One quick question - Does it translate all content of the ROM, incl. OS and OEM applications? Or only OS, not for other applications in the ROM? Thanks?

it doesnt work with me i have downloaded all image file's from microsoft and when i instald it i get a pocket pc dir a tools dir a Images License txt file and a Images Readme file so i placed it all including the nbf file in the microwave dir and pressed go and a msdos screen flashes for about i mili second and then it does nothing did i do somthing wrong??
or can someone please explain me better
thanx
Danny

Can you explain a little more point number 5 and 6 plz?
I'm transalating from wwe to spanish thx.
It's my first attemp to do something with kitchens, etc...

Nice release pal.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong but is not working for me... That's what i did:
Downloaded from MS my localized image and installed it (I don't have the emulator installed, just the image).
Already downloaded my english ROM (in my case, TNT 5.0)
Did the GO stuff in this way "GO <localized-Image> <TNT5-ROM>
Then flashed the resultant ROM and it is still in English...
... What I did wrong?
Could you please post a detailed explanation (if it is possible with printscreens) about this process?
Sorry but I'm a little dumb using this one...
Regards and keep on doing this great job!

@com_reg
Does it translate all content of the ROM, incl. OS and OEM applications?
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It basically translate the OS and some HTC applications, but due to the high number of versions around, it is safe to only transalte the OS part. I've experienced problems with some HTC applications not displaying properly after translations. So you better make some tests excluding or not some files / dir from Muiver. I'll try to release a more flexible Muiver soon
@danny de w
Open a DOS prompt and type "GO <name of the MS image>.bin nk.nbf"
@cesarr4
Did you move your old nk.nbf in a different place ? The script renames it in nk-old.nbf but this is sometimes not enough: the update utility will still pick the old one in place of the new one. The easiest solution is to move the nk-old.nbf away from the microwave dir.
@JouSePo and ALL
I am at work right now and can't take pictures, I will do a better explanation with images when I'll be at home later. By now I can try to explaint it better by words:
During the process some applications will pop-up asking you to do something:
- the first one is the MuiVer, that automatically looks for the right directories in the MS dump and copies it over the image that needs to be translated, modifying some files and making thinghs you don't have to care about. At this stage you only have to choose, based on your (future) experience, what you want to copy and what not. The more you copy, the most will be translated, but you may experience more problem (missing texts, or applications that goes blank screen).
- The second application is a notepad instance, opened on your initFlashfiles.dat. This file contains the localized name of some system directories and especially the start menu. I suggest you to take a look to the initflashfiles present in the microwave\dump.src dir that is the localized version for your language and change the one in the notepad accordingly. The only part that REALLY NEED to be changed is the name of the "startup" dir (i.e. in italian it must be changed in "Esecuzione automatica") otherwise your rom won't start the customization (no screen alignment, no initial settings .. etc etc..)
- At this point the script will have built the nk.nb file that must be translated in a nk.nbf file in order to be flashed. This is done with the last program that opens up : nb2nbf. You will find a set of row in the middle of the screen, check the first checkbox in the first line and in the box on the right pick the nk.nb file from the microwave dir. On the same line choose OS in the combobox on the right and then just click on the text box on the left. A number will appear, it is all ok. Now click on translate and you're done.

Nice printscreens smogdragon!
Thanks!
I have a question:
Which .BIN file should I use? The installed file from Microsoft extracted the following .BIN files:
PPC_ESN.BIN
PPC_ESN_GSM_QVGA_VR.BIN
PPC_ESN_GSM_SQUARE_VR.BIN
PPC_ESN_GSM_VGA_SQUARE_VR.BIN
PPC_ESN_GSM_VGA_VR.BIN
PPC_ESN_GSM_VR.BIN
All of them with same size... Which one should I use for my QTEK A9100 (Wizard)???
Thanks in advance!

In addition to my previous post, I'm getting the following error message when click on "GO" button at MUIVER program (see attachment).
What is going on? It doesn't happens when using Beta2 release.

@cesarr4
PPC_ESN_GSM_QVGA_VR.BIN is the best match with wizard's hardware.
As for the error, I've never seen that But I can see on the command prompt that you had a previous error "acces is denied". I would try to start clean, deleting dump and dump.src directories. Ah, be sure to have administration rights. Let me know

thanks for your prompt responses and your help.
I flashed the resultant rom to my Wizard and it is working fine but some issues arised with built-in apps. By example, the phone app doesn't start and built in software keyboard doesn't show up...
I was wondering if it is possible to extract the OS part from the MS image and pack it into a nk.nbf file and flash it (I mean, do not transkate a existing rom but using the OS inside the .bin file and flash it to the device)...
it is possible? what can be the side-effects doing that?

hello smogdragon
i tried using cmd and it work t for a little bit when i deed everything you said it say that it cant find this file cant find that file it cant find muiver nothing get recognized by cmd
but its all in the same dir and the image file too

[ROM][WWE] Ready-to-Cook Vanille Elf base ROM (SYS & OEM) 2.20.707.1B [ONLINE]

I share my base so that our Cook could have easier life (I hope).
This is not a ready-for-flashing product. You will still have to Cook and BuildOS. Don't download if you have no idea what to do with cooking.
This is Vanille ROM (SYS & OS) based on 2.20.707.1B WWE. Both files and Registry are trimmed.
I use this base to cook my own ROM and everything looks good. I am appreciated if you could trim down the size further.
What are removed (Removed items are included in zips attached):
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SYS
-Windows Update
-Internet Sharing
-Transcriber
-Windows Live
OEM
-Comm Manager
-Audio Manager
-Home Plugin
-Phone Skin <== experimental
-Task Manager (X button)
-MMS
-TouchPad and Touch Keyboard
Enjoy!
Base-ROM (SYS & OEM)
http://www.fs2you.com/files/78a403eb-8c8d-11dc-922a-00142218fc6e/
Ripped SYS files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/a7c5aaa3-8c8d-11dc-b3b1-0014221f4662/
Ripped OEM files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/34c020ba-8c8e-11dc-96c1-0014221b798a/
Attached is the Network Wizard from ExtROM, removed operator's customization package.
PS: The two "CheckAutoRun" files are also removed. You may copy them back from your original ROM.

100+ view but no one loves it? omfg.

chill dude ... thanks for the uploads the the chefs will be happy with it

evermick said:
100+ view but no one loves it? omfg.
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Don't worry bro, I'm downloading it now and I will do some cooking 2nite.
Cheersss

kick to first page.. I wonder if ppl know what to do with this
Bascially when you put back Comm Manager, Audio Manager, MMS, Phone skin and Task manager, pack it into .NBH and flash it, it is a Vanilla ROM already.
I seperate each part just for the sake of easier replacement of different modules.

I am trying to make a clean, trimmed down rom. I am sure I can learn something by reviewing your base here.
Thank you vm for sharing!

Hey guys... Exploring the keyboard oem package i've noticed that there are alot of language database files for other languages than the ones selectable in the rom.
Mayb we can edit the reg to make these languages also available?
I'm studying on it, but still no progress.
gr. bram

bram_smulders said:
Hey guys... Exploring the keyboard oem package i've noticed that there are alot of language database files for other languages than the ones selectable in the rom.
Mayb we can edit the reg to make these languages also available?
I'm studying on it, but still no progress.
gr. bram
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Good finding, I did not notice it.
Thou, I noticed there are a lot of lang files when I remove the Touchpad.
Sounds like I can remove even more files for keyboard layout as I don't need them

Yes I Accept Bribes And Donations, Just So I Can Build Up A Small Buffer For A Broken Device So I Can Keep On Cooking, Ripping Apps, And keep Building full SD Card Coded Cabs and Keep The World Save From Bricks
XDA-Developers FireFox & IE Search Bar Plug In
Vanilla 2.2 Cooking Rom
Kitchen
My Full Signature With All Links To Important Stuff:
Touch/ELF
IPL: 1.17.0002
SPL: 1.11.000
RADIO: T-Mobile NL03.08.90
ROM: SPC WM6.09 (SP1) / TMNL2.26 Full / Stripped
Wizard/G4
IPL: ????
SPL: ????
RADIO: ????
ROM: ????
SDA/Typhoon
IPL: ????
SPL: ????
Versatel/24 Skin
Orange SPV100
DEAD
O2 XDA - Wallaby
Next Device - HTC Rapheal

Noonski said:
Sorry Mick, there's to much going on.
If this is from the 2.2 dopod rom my advice would be to leave HTChome exe's and Dll's in the Rom, as not everyone has this new updated Home Plugin yet.
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This can be found again from my posted "OEM-ripped.zip"
Entertainment can be removed.
I think some of us have an option.xml file for this.
And Office.
I have them both at home.
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These stuffs could be easier removed from the SYS. They are packed within seperate folders already. So no hard work is needed
Maybe I should seperate those stuffs in next version (if there is any) to make the ROM even easier for noobs.
Also it would be nice to integrate Rapi certificates.
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Maybe I would just build a seperate package for this

evermick said:
This can be found again from my posted "OEM-ripped.zip"
These stuffs could be easier removed from the SYS. They are packed within seperate folders already. So no hard work is needed
Maybe I should seperate those stuffs in next version (if there is any) to make the ROM even easier for noobs.
Maybe I would just build a seperate package for this
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Maybe i didn't use the right words.
What i wanted to say sort of is.
That you don't need to remove the actuall packages.
You split the whole rom up by adding option.xml files.
You set the needed folders to True and the unneeded folders to False.
Just check the option.xml i just attached for the entertainment folders.
Also are removed files from Oem folders brought into a new DSM file to prevent Missing files when extracting the rom.
And if WLM is removed do you add the removed Shortcuts to the WLM packages.
You know me i'm saying this to help, because if you want a good true vanilla it has to be perfect.
I've added some new packages to Elf Repository for use in kitchen.
HTCHome 2.1 plug in with Added Tab settings.
Updated Network Wizard SD and MM Package.
WWAN (if only for the option xml file, it's pretty useless to have anyway)
Multiple GlyphChace Settings Oem Packages.
All using Xtriny's new Build which does allow changing of Pagepool settings.
There's a memory fault in the pre 5.2.1933 version of 2.2 Rom.
At the moment i just started a new ROM and it's going to take weeks to finish it.
Luckely no ones waiting for a new ROM anymore because they are popping up left and right.
So i can take my time. I think it's time i take my responsibility and stop being a chef.
A lot is going wrong and i'm not talking about you.

Looks like we are making another "Pandora" style kitchen when we add option.xml to individual packages.
It is a good idea, but will consume lots of time. Let me see if I could do it

That's what i mean. But you don't need to do this alone.
I'm uploading every detail i can find.
So there's allready a lot of packages available.
After every change i make a selectable package.
And even when you re extract the rom you don't get missing files.
For instance when you remove files from OAMAPPS folder and rebuild the DSM contents. All the modules in folders won't be added and you still have missing files.
But if you then take the EXE's and DLL's out of the folder sand put them into OEMAPPS folder and then make Rebuild the DSM you won't have missing files.
Weird thing is that when you then extract that NBH file the OEMAPPS will then be extracted to SYS folder instead.
This shouldn't be a big problem as you have probaply seen in other kitchen's
Here's a Vanilla Based on 2.2 os 5.2.1933
You can extract the Rom and recook it.
4MB PP
It's 50.1 MB 62.63 Storage It's Nice and Neat.Everything not in it can be found in repository.
(The only thing i forgot is to remove the ZIP link)

Hay Noonski
The thing is i've been lookin for a clean rom with big storage and a lot of free ram with TochFlow and WITHOUT htc-home plugin for my Touch
How much Stoarge in the one u linked to? and free ram?
If some one have a good clean stable rom, would u plz pm or post me the link

Cobra2 said:
Hay Noonski
The thing is i've been lookin for a clean rom with big storage and a lot of free ram with TochFlow and WITHOUT htc-home plugin for my Touch
How much Stoarge in the one u linked to? and free ram?
If some one have a good clean stable rom, would u plz pm or post me the link
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It's amazing.
It's almost 63 MB storage 59.39 free.
Memory free around 26.
no HTCHome wlm X button audio Manager and it's clean and recookable.
But i'm Pulling it so Xtriny can post it. It came from his base.
I just completely stripped it to 50.1 MB as close to the max as possible.

evermick said:
I share my base so that our Cook could have easier life (I hope).
This is not a ready-for-flashing product. You will still have to Cook and BuildOS. Don't download if you have no idea what to do with cooking.
This is Vanille ROM (SYS & OS) based on 2.20.707.1B WWE. Both files and Registry are trimmed.
I use this base to cook my own ROM and everything looks good. I am appreciated if you could trim down the size further.
What are removed (Removed items are included in zips attached):
------------------
SYS
-Windows Update
-Internet Sharing
-Transcriber
-Windows Live
OEM
-Comm Manager
-Audio Manager
-Home Plugin
-Phone Skin <== experimental
-Task Manager (X button)
-MMS
-TouchPad and Touch Keyboard
Enjoy!
Base-ROM (SYS & OEM)
http://www.fs2you.com/files/78a403eb-8c8d-11dc-922a-00142218fc6e/
Ripped SYS files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/a7c5aaa3-8c8d-11dc-b3b1-0014221f4662/
Ripped OEM files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/34c020ba-8c8e-11dc-96c1-0014221b798a/
Attached is the Network Wizard from ExtROM, removed operator's customization package.
PS: The two "CheckAutoRun" files are also removed. You may copy them back from your original ROM.
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can this b used for cooking roms for elfin (128\256)? which kitchen do we use to cook this rom?

I'm not sure.
But it's an earlier Base then the vanilla version i posted up ahead.
But if you download the .nbh file and extract the os.nb then read the PP chaging tutorial in th cooking class kitchen you can check if it has the correct value.
If the value for pagepool is 20 it is for both elf and elfin.

hello guy´s
i am new here and i want to flash the vanilla2.20.707.1B on my elf
i´ve got ipl 3.10 and spl 3.07 on it . the problem is : every time i try to flash ( Executing HTC_Touch_WWE_ME_2.20.456.1B.exe ) it Goes through the bootloder to status bar , after holding on at 1 % the touch restarts to winmob.
Ahe Flash prog ( RUU ) is showing ERROR 260: Connection.
can someone plz help me i´ve searched all the fourums . after 4 -5 h of trying you are my last hope.
Greetz Foe

I´m not sure, but if your IPL / SPL is the patched version, it has overwrite protection, and the ROM you´re trying to flash is full, it contains all areas: IPL, SPL, ROM, Splash and Radio.
The way around is to extract the individual ROM components and rebuild the NBH file including only the ROM section, leaving IPL, SPL, Splash and Radio out. When you flash this one, IPL/SPL won´t be overwritten, so no error will pop.
Any kitchen around comes with all the tools you need for the procedure. If you don´t know how to do it, take a look at the forums, this subject is very well covered.
Hope this helps.
Eduardo