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HI EVERYONE
I HAVE BEEN READING A LOT ABOUT THE 1.11ROM
I JUST INSTALLED THE RADIO PART OF IT ...
BUT TO MY DISAPPOINTMENT ... NO CHANGE TO MY PREVIOUS 1.01
HAVENT INSTALLED THE COMPLETE ROM BUT WANNA KNOW IF THERE IS ANY ADVANTAGE AT ALL ??????
sigh
what was that for ??
@ morphosin
I suppose, it was his way to say "well, there are several threads in this forum about upgrading to 1.11. Please take a look at the search button".
If You are currently using radio 1.01, upgrading to 1.11 should be a major improvement. Wne I upgraded to 1.05 (or was it 1.06) it was a big step towards good sound (but I must admit that there is hardly a difference between 1.06 and 1.11 in terms of sound). Sound improvement will not depend on the installation of the other ROM-Files, the radio.nbf is enough.
with 1.11 there will be only a few performance features at my side ...
Too bad none of those several threads are able to conclusively identify any solid benefit from upgrading. I am still looking for posts that tell me why 1.11 is worth the bother. And he did say he was reading about it beforehand (presumably in this forum). So seems the question is valid in my opinion.
ROM upgrades are mostly used to fix bugs in older version. From time to time new capabilities are thrown in as well, but that is not the main concern of a ROM update. So the question is: do you want to live with these bugs, or do you want them fixed?
Don't expect all bugs to be fixed by doing a ROM upgrade, though. ROMS are made by humans, and we make mistakes. Of course new bugs can be introduced as well, but unless these new bugs are very bad and a lot of users are experiencing them, I see no reason to run an old buggy version.
Seems they've replaced the old tired bugs with new and improved ones! I have finally stabilised my JAM on the 1.06 ROM after much pain. I am still not convinced that the 1.11 is any better since some people claim its better and some claim its much worse. In other words, there is little consensus.
BTW, I don't accept the human factor as an excuse for lingering bugs. I am not a beta tester and I don't wish to use beta products. Once maybe, twice is pushing it, but three ROMs and still no sign of fixes for the fundamental problems is unacceptable. My phone is unreliable and if I don't get it sorted soon I will be back on a Nokia / Blackberry combination (quite a step backward in my opinion).
All I want is a stable working ROM that allows me to hear calls when I make them, to hang up when I hang up, and to connect and disconnect to GPRS when I need to and to put an end to soft reseting all the time! Unit and regression testing as part of a typical QA process should kill off 90% of bugs either new or old.
The problem is that in the rush to market HTC/Imate have obviously failed to complete a proper QA cycle prior to release. Their QA is terrible.
ianwood, what are these numerous bugs that you're referring to?
I'm heavily using my JAM on a daily basis. I was very cautious and selective on what 3rd party software I install. I had some 3rd party software that f*cks up my JAM completely (JGUI's for example), but now I have a list of software that WORKS WELL TOGETHER and don't have any problems. I never do a soft reset and the JAM behaves exactly how I want it.
We also have to distinguish between 3rd party software bugs, Windows bugs and HTC flaws.
The same bugs that everyone else refers to:
Intermittent:
GPRS not being able to resume after a call
Answering call fails with "unable to answer call" message
Hanging up fails with service command error message
ActiveSync becoming unresponsive when syncing
BT not installed errors
Unresolved items in ActiveSync when there is no conflict
Constant:
Heavy static on calls
Sound quality is crap (worse than the old T68s)
Speakerphone is also crap
Camera is slooooooow and picture quality is mediocre
BT headset drops after 15 minutes
Several reputable today plugins just don't work
BTW, I have very little installed on the thing. GPRS Monitor, a couple of simple games, Resco, Skype, TomTom. The rest are I-Mate default apps.
Let's face it; I am not the only one to have an issue with this thing.
MS, Imate, HTC, et all need to wake up and realise they will continue to be a footnote in mobile until they get this stuff sorted out! Let's hope WM5 will be better -- too bad we might not get it on our JAMs.
Some problems just not related to the Rom itself. I am using 1.11 rom
ianwood said:
The same bugs that everyone else refers to:
Intermittent:
GPRS not being able to resume after a call (I don't have GPRS)
Answering call fails with "unable to answer call" message (never happen to me)
Hanging up fails with service command error message (never happen to me)
ActiveSync becoming unresponsive when syncing (never happen to me too)
BT not installed errors (Yes! But not anymore after 1.11 rom)
Unresolved items in ActiveSync when there is no conflict (blame stupid MS)
Constant:
Heavy static on calls (sometimes)
Sound quality is crap (worse than the old T68s) (Ok for me)
Speakerphone is also crap (I agree)
Camera is slooooooow and picture quality is mediocre (I agree)
BT headset drops after 15 minutes (not in my case for my HBH 600, even 30+ mins still ok)
Several reputable today plugins just don't work <- This is the plugin's problem. All my plugins works without problem (SBSH's Pocket Breeze, Marware's Pocket Weather and PocketMax's Phone Alarm)
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ianwood said:
The same bugs that everyone else refers to:
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I had some of those when I first got my Magician, but haven't seen any of them since upgrading to 1.06.
Intermittent:
GPRS not being able to resume after a call - Constant, but fixed in the Norwegian.
Answering call fails with "unable to answer call" message - Never happened to me.
Hanging up fails with service command error message - Never happened to me.
ActiveSync becoming unresponsive when syncing - Agree.
BT not installed errors - Never in 1.11, but only in 1.06.
Unresolved items in ActiveSync when there is no conflict - Constant.
Constant:
Heavy static on calls - Never happened to me.
Sound quality is crap (worse than the old T68s) - No.
Speakerphone is also crap - No.
Camera is slooooooow and picture quality is mediocre - As in all ROMs.
BT headset drops after 15 minutes - Haven't got a headset, but BT GPS stays connected hour after hour.
Several reputable today plugins just don't work - Name one. I haven't had one single problem and I use many.
Let's face it; I am not the only one to have an issue with this thing. - And there are lots of users that think that it's more stable than 1.06.
MS, Imate, HTC, et all need to wake up and realise they will continue to be a footnote in mobile until they get this stuff sorted out! Let's hope WM5 will be better -- too bad we might not get it on our JAMs. - Oh yeah.. I've worked with QA and I woudn't have released even the 1.11 as 1.0! Terrible!
In many threads ther is mentioned that some wizard users have problem to get VoIP running through teh phone speaker. So they have it through stereospeaker and the partner will get bad echos while speaking. So I started this thread to probably solve the problem.
1. there was an idee that it is an rom problem that maybe been solved by flashing original orwell --> I did and it didn´t work either.
2. somebody think it might be an hardware problem, that "old" wizard built before week 6 2006 do not support voip through internal speaker. --> this might be, because it fits to the posting in an other thread
3. it might be an registry thing:
But who can find these settings???
Or is it an dll problem?
Everyone who wants to answer should please psot the "wizard-age" the rom and what ever might be usefull to solve the problem for everyone.
Thanks
Hi
It's good to see that you haven't given up on solving this problem, sorry but I haven't come any closer to an answer.
Just for the record: To see when your Wizard was made, check the serial number.
Mine says S/N xx604xxxxxxx, the first number shows the year, the two next the week.
mine is from wekk 44 year 2005 - and I also didn´t came further
My wizard is week 9 2006 and I still have the speakerphone problem. I have tried both mUn and MB ROMs.
muizmotani said:
My wizard is week 9 2006 and I still have the speakerphone problem. I have tried both mUn and MB ROMs.
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Oh one piece in the puzzle that it might be an registry or dll problemn and not a hardwareproblem.
Thanks
Just wanted to mention I've tried Radio ROM 2.19, 2.25, 2.47 and 2.69 - it didn't solve the problem.
One question to you, papamopps, does the Xplore 1.1 ROM have elatepushservice.exe (java for running WiFi in standby mode), so that you have have the WiFi task bar icon (with BatteryStatus Today-Plugin)?
AsfaltSame said:
Just wanted to mention I've tried Radio ROM 2.19, 2.25, 2.47 and 2.69 - it didn't solve the problem.
One question to you, papamopps, does the Xplore 1.1 ROM have elatepushservice.exe (java for running WiFi in standby mode), so that you have have the WiFi task bar icon (with BatteryStatus Today-Plugin)?
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The elatepushservice.exe is in windowsfolder. But I don´t know if it is running the way you want. But just pm anichillus - he will know it.
No body can help us?
Faria mentioned this:
There is a possibility but then we will loose bluetooth function.
Please - nobody knows an answer?
I am also having the problem. My serial shows week 12 of 06.
Mine is 06 42nd Week and I don't seem to have a problem.
Anyone come up with anything on this issue. I'd hate to see this thread die.
No nothing. Faria mentined that there would be a soulution but we would loose bluetooht support. Don´t know what that means but he never answerd again.
Sorry.
Hmmm...
Loosing bluetooth for voip wouldnt be a huge issue since most of us will be connected via WiFi, and wifi is a rare thing when you are driving (main reason for headset).
Whiterat said:
Loosing bluetooth for voip wouldnt be a huge issue since most of us will be connected via WiFi, and wifi is a rare thing when you are driving (main reason for headset).
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But when you are loosing complete support for bluetooth?
Don´t know how it would be working. Will ask Faria again.
That would kind of suck to loose Bluetooth all together. Not only do I use a headset from time to time, but I also use a bluetooth gps receiver so then I would be out 2 devices.
Hi, i also have a wizard model and the sound keeps going through the stereospeaker... I would apreciate some help...
Wizard Model
WM6 Faria Kitchen
IPL/SPL 3.08
Radio 02.40.11
OS 5.2.318
There is still no solution?
This, to me, is a major show stopper for using voip on my phone
No one can help us? I got the problem, too...
Arrrrhhh
I posted on the VOIP forum when it started. Seems an age back now - and yes I have the same problem. Seems absurd that the s/w cant control where the sound goes.... but there you go.
I have tried some of these registration hacks, but no success Maybe you have more luck? http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa921918.aspx
hilo,
Just created a new thread for this as its issues are pilling up the other one. i think that thread should be clean and should have only and only contain info about progress on the wm6 rom...
Mods if unnecessary please delete...
Tejas
I would not call it a bug but one of the disadvantages of the ROM is that, similar to these ones which come to Qtek and i-mate, it does not recognise the network settings out of the box but you have to fiddle with them manually. When I use Orange ROMs (and it does not matter if the ROM comes from the UK or Switzerland) everything works with flying colours, despite I do not use any Orange network. Just I have to install Opera Mobile (I hate pocket IE) and voila! Everything works!
Channels don't work.
in india AFAIK channels just provide the cell id i.e the area which i m in... not imp though... no use of channels
ok phil.
if u remove windows update, at least supply it as a cab in the extras folder.
channels don't work.
long pressed side button does not work! it used to start voice note record for the sda and i'd like that to work.
mms.
better camera software. btw htc camera makes the phone SLOW..... not a good one. need an alternate
enable profile switching to silent when long pressing '#' key
default folder for saving pictures on storage card is not my documents\my pictures any more but a lame dcim folder. that would be nice to be changed.
also, sometimes when answering a call, the keyboard stays locked, the call is still on, but the home screen is active and not the call screen.
joystick seems much better but sometimes it doesn't want to work as it should. maybe another driver; if not, this one is good
we need wpa2 for wifi enabled.
also add in the extras folder:
moblue
tcpmp with extra codecs
htc audio manager could be good
if u need the cabs for moblue and htc audio, i have them
there is an newer version of sim manager. v6.10. has a couple of new things (got it if u need it)
and maybe add a good version of opera. not the java one.
we also need a good midlet manager
also a good instant messaging program. maybe a multi client one like oz mobile im, or like im+
mmmhhh after read all this bugs, i better wait a while to update my phone, i find a good idea to write here all the problems with the actually ROM.
Good AD2P drivers
Hi,
Is it possible to have good ad2p drivers with the next rom?
Tomtom 6
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards
I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.
boneym said:
I have Push mail configured and GPRS seems to be buggy. once or twice a day GPRS seems to stop working. My Activesync fails with (Can not connect to network or waiting for the network to be available), and in that mode even IE can not connect to any site. I switch off and on the phone function only, GPRS becomes available again.
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Actually I would split your post in two separate ones.
1. the instability of WM6 Alpha - obvious thing, and it should be fixed
2. but I also see something else. I see from many posts that one application which sets all the settings with one click is quite urgently needed. I know that something like that exists for Swiss networks http://www.mysmartphone.ch/Freeware/kommunikation/16920.aspx and for the Norwegian ones http://www.smartmobil.no/Article617.phtml but I think that everybody would agree that such an universal solution would be something good. Unfortunately, I do not know anything about programming but I can imagine this kind of program and a separate database. The database would be filled by volunteers - I can, for example, provide all the settings of Polish operators, someone else British, French, etc. It would be good esp. for people who travel a lot.
unlocksmith said:
I have never been able to run tomtom 6 before the update.
Is it possible now with update? and also which is best version to install?
Kindest regards
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TomTom 6 is made for Pocket PCs. It requires a touch screen to work, so you won´t be able to control it. I have had it running on my 8310 but it´s just silly to even have it installed. Go for 5.2 if you can find it.
I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.
Thanks for your help. I got my old one to work. I really like the colours in tomtom 6 tho.
Also on my phone i have a problem(s) with tomtom 5, I cant type in the post code B8 followed by anything like B8 3NU. Also I can't use certain Points Of Interest such as hospitals or cash dispensers. These work fine on my Wizard but I wana be able to do it all with TORNADO!
The software of dual sim selector don't works with that new rom (adapter of 10ª generation).
Well, I don't know if it works; the soft does not appear by any side.
I proved several solutions, but no it has worked to me.
Somebody can help me?
Thanks.
tejasphatak please rename the topic to "WM6 Torando bugs/issues" , so we can generally post bugs/issues regarding all WM6 tornado roms
Bugs:
1. The locklevel change to 1 randomly..
2. Sometimes the phone freeze when unloking kepyad.
It happened two times.
Issues:
1. When playing audio the CPU load is ~ 25-30% (@180 Mhz). It is normal ? (can someone with WM5 test?)
If using EQ and other effects the CPU load increase.
A taskmanager with cpu load info can be found here (it's for PPC but works also ,somehow, on smartphones)
More CPU load = more power = less battery
2. The system lags while writing to storage card (big cards, > 1gb). This issue is present on WM5 Tornado roms too (except iphone rom wich seems to deal better with sd).
Need a beter SD driver .
Same when copying via ActiveSync (has anyone tried usbfn driver from HTC VOX?)
3. when TCPMP is playing audio it keeps the backlight alive
Using andot's PEE V6.
bsider said:
I have problems syncing my contacts if i have more than 305 contacts.
The ActiveSync (or WMDC) hangs saying "attention required". Though, i can make 305+ contacts on the WM6 and sync them back to Outlook! But backwards i get 305 contact limit. Vey, very strange!
With previous ROM everything was ok.
I tried syncing with different PCs, tried unistalling ActiveSync and WMDC - no use. Deleting pim.vol doesn't help too.
ActiveSync on WM6 gives me 0x8503001c error.
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Hello,
I've got a similar problem to this. It used to work fine until last week. I can't remember changing anything in my Hard/software setup but now it just hangs and only some of the contacts sync.
I've searched in the forum but can't seem to find any other reference to this problem. If anyone knows a solution (or any discussion of it) please let me know. Basic device info below:
SPV m3100 (HTC TyTN) running WM6
Windows Vista Home Basic
Windows Mobile Device Center
Thanks.
Hello all!
Did you try skype on touch cruise?
I have a very bad sound quality.
I tried fring (see http://www.fring.com/), and it's the same problem.
And you?
THX!
Hi,
I use Skype, from time to time, on my Cruise and it sounds very good (of course trough headset). Not just for me, for my interlocutor too.
@+
What version ?
Make sure your Wi-Fi or 3G connection signal is strong enough.
THX for replies
I use Skype 2.2.0.37. (the last I think)
Very bad sound quality because the sound is cutted. Specially for my interlocutor, he doesn't ear me sometimes.
I can verify when I make test call, I ear the voice but my voice is very cutted. Almost no sound...
Jules Winnfield, what is your version please?
THX
edit: I use only wifi, and the signal is ok, I'm at home...
My version is 2.2.0.37 too.
I've tried 2 or 3 time and everything was OK.
I have very good Wifi signal (at home) and Adsl 5 Mb.
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Make sure there aren't too much other applications taking up RAM, as it may be for swapping reasons that your device clutters voice input.
I also have a bad sound qualitiy. 2.2.0.37 Skype Version and tried it over WLAN an USB/ActiveSync.
It's getting worse if I tip on the screen...
Will keep on testing
For me it's better now: uncheck "sound echo correction".
The sound is not perfect (as on my computer...) but it's possible to make a little conversation
If i have this setting checked, my microphone seems to be muted. Means i just can hear my opponent, but can't talk with him...
But the quality seems the same bad one.
I've called a friend in Russia and sound was very good for him.
For me, it could be better if it was louder.
But, this problem is not just with Skype. It's a French Rom particularity: sound level trough headset is too low
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I've changed the rom and the radio on my Polaris.
The sound is worse! not possible to understanding something...
No idee? Please, I go to China and Japan during 3 weeks in april, help me!!!
THX!
I'm just about to download and use skype on my TC, I already use skype in my PC but have a doubt about fring, could you tell me the differences between fring and skype?
Thanks
I have a clear connection using HSPDA when calling my brother in France from the US without a headset. I haven't tested over wifi yet. I am using the original oem WWE ROM with original radio and the current version of Skype available on the site with default options.
What ROM are those with issues using? What speeds do you get over your connection with a speed test?
Top Mario said:
I'm just about to download and use skype on my TC, I already use skype in my PC but have a doubt about fring, could you tell me the differences between fring and skype?
Thanks
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Fring is a "facilitator" to use Skype and other providers. They claim to make the data more "portable" even on Edge connection
Hi sonus!
On my signature:...
HTC Polaris
Rom: Polaris_FRA_0.58_Light_bepe: 1.28.405.1 FRE
Radio: 1.58.25.14
Which soft for testing wifi speed?
When I make testing call, no pb for the female voice: very clear.Mine is very bad...
ZeuBug said:
Hi sonus!
On my signature:...
HTC Polaris
Rom: Polaris_FRA_0.58_Light_bepe: 1.28.405.1 FRE
Radio: 1.58.25.14
Which soft for testing wifi speed?
When I make testing call, no pb for the female voice: very clear.Mine is very bad...
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You can run speed tests from your mobile browser (Pocket IE or Opera). Try http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed or you may want to get a speed test located closer to you for more accurate results either use google or try one of these http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?more=1. Note, the more "high tech" flash based tests won't work our our mobile browsers.
EDIT: I also notice that you are using the "Test" radio ROM, have you tried Skype with the original Radio ROM?
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EDIT: I also notice that you are using the "Test" radio ROM, have you tried Skype with the original Radio ROM?
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THX sonus, for your reply.
It was better with original radio I think... And I didn't know it's a "test" radio rom! Can I back to old radio? (1.58.25.13) ? I will test!
Edit: I've just change the radio, hard reset,etc...
Same bad result with skype. And I see I have not good result with Internet explorer... Maybe a pb with the bepe rom and wifi? (no pb with original rom...)
ZeuBug said:
Hello all!
Did you try skype on touch cruise?
I have a very bad sound quality.
I tried fring (see http://www.fring.com/), and it's the same problem.
And you?
THX!
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I use 3g VideoCall from Telme,it works fine on my TC except for the video right now (they say they will release a new version in march or april).
You can download it (from the download section) and use it for free (or with an account just like skype)after registering for free as a Free Member from here : http://web2.telme.sg/cedel/index.php?option=mod_joinus
With "Route 60" activated (as a distributor) u can even call for free to 60 countries on fixed phones (from which 6 countries on fixed AND MOBILES for free)
I call then free from mi 3gphone to fixed phones, to 3gphones and also even to computers having the correspondent software from Telme installed (Deskcall NG)
I tried fring with voipstunt and voipbuster, I could not find my Voip contactlist and was not convinced so I uninstalled it.
i installed skype a couple of days ago and when trying the test service my sound was realy bad if it was sound at all. but when i called a real call the sound was good when i used the handsfree and when i had it against my ear. but was echo when i had it infront of me. so try a real contact and not the test conntact that follows skype.
hello,
unfortunately i cannot turn on the bluetooth from comm manager, it turns on and after 1 second is off again.
any solution for this problem?
thanks.
I have had this problem before and unfortunately am having it again. Only solution I have ever found for this is a hard reset and then reinstalling all your apps. If you try to restore from a backup from Sprite Backup, for instance, the problem remains. This would lead me to believe that it's a setting or a registry issue somewhere but I haven't been able to locate exactly what would be causing it and don't know enough about programming in WM to write something to figure it out.
Not a great answer but there it is.
db
MegaHz said:
hello,
unfortunately i cannot turn on the bluetooth from comm manager, it turns on and after 1 second is off again.
any solution for this problem?
thanks.
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Hi, I have a Uk version of the touch cruise and I have the same problem. I just did a hard reset but the problem remains. Turning bluetooth on is impossible. It just try's to turn it on and shuts it off immediately.
Maybe it has something to do with GPRS? I am always connected to the internet. I tried to disconnect but then bluetooth still doesn't work. Can anyone help? Thnx!
No one has a clue?
I had this prob with bluetooth and wifi following the use of wmwifirouter- after hard reset and no wmwifi all goes well...
On a French SFR rom
any other idea?
Same problem... beginning to wish I'd gone all Apple and bought an iPhone. Anyway.... To trun it on, I had to go to Comm Manager>Settings>Bluetooth>Mode>Turn on Bluetooth. That worked despite the Comm Manager still showing Bluetooth as "off".
It only connects 1/2 the time to my headset or handsfree in the car
Otherwise, the phone crashes only once a day! Great! Thanks!
ok, great to see more people having the same problem but i hope that someone has a sollution...
When I try to turn bluetooth on in the communications settings i get a message saying there is a hardware error! :S
Ohw btw, I'm not using any router programs or other and my WIFI works fine.
has anybody of you having this problem tried to change to another rom?
if yes? did this worked?
any news on this?
No news, I don't want to try for a different rom because i don't think it will change anything. It just seems like its a faulty device which is a real shame. I've already contacted the place where i bought it and see if i can get a new one.
I also have problems with my microphone during calls, photo camera does often not work and the touchpad reacts very slowly to my touches. Very annoying!!!!
Yup, am returning mine to HTC aswell. Not even sure I want it back. WiFi stopped working too, and then it stopped receiving text messages, and everyone said they couldn't hear me when I called them. Great
Some of you guys got a bad device, there are thousands out there working properly.
If some of you guys flashed a newer Radio, the one form the test-ROM, then this is your problem.
And some of you guys have a quite gay branded ROM (slow responsiveness of touchpad). The original HTC ROM on the FTP and even more so a cooked ROM would solve alot of your problems. But be aware, flashing without having a backup ready is going to void your warranty if you want to exchange it having a custom/non-original ROM on the device.
What's up Schaggo
I am experiencing the same problem these gentlemen are mentioning and my ROM is not gay or lesbian. It is the original one.
TC is my 7th HTC device and I can see the quality of the ROMs decreasing a lot on every new device. I feel like HTC needs a real competitor to move up its arse quicker.
All I can say is that it really annoys me to hard reset this [email protected] everytime I "accidentally" use a native feature called Flight Mode. By bluetooth seems to fly away and never get back.
Lots of time the GPRS settings have to be reconfigured too. Some people I know have problems with GMail IMAP4 accounts when sending messages after some time. I never had this problem on my Kaiser neither on my Niki.
The lack of a video driver really is an egg on our faces, because I can't believe my ole Qtek 9100 responds quicker than these "all the bells and whistles" Qualcomm 7200 super-duper geared up devices.
So, if you feel like not contributing, please do not mess around.
Your signature tells me you are a wise man, but your comments show me otherway.
-Feaps
PB of BT still there with custom rom
MegaHz said:
has anybody of you having this problem tried to change to another rom?
if yes? did this worked?
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Hi
I've tried many custom rom and the PB continue. "PB with the hardware oh BT".
Hard reset doent change anything.
my initial rom (SFR France) was working
custom rom (blackwidow + Bepe 058) are buging...
nedd some help !
Thanks alot for that input feaps. I guess I have to clarify a little bit.
My answer was supposed to be pointing in different directions. The first and general information I tried to contribute was, that it is not a common Polaris problem to have a broken Bluetooth unit. Which doesn't help at all to ppl affected, but it should tell them, that they probably got a bad device and should exchange it first before blameing htc in general and shouting for an iPhone.
It only was partially directed at specific persons. At madinga for example: did you try hardresetting your device? It could be a corruption in your system which causes all those problems. I doubt it though, if you suffer the loss of so many functions at the same time I suspect the mainboard to be broken. But nonetheless, hardreset it, see if its working, BEFORE you put your backup back on the device again since that could restore the corruption. If it doesnt work, exchange your unit, I hope you'll get a working one back.
My second line was directed at all people which have overwritten their original Radio with the 1.58.25.14 originating from the HTC Test ROM which can be found on the ftp server. The Bluetooth part of that Radio is flawed and leads to the problems described in this thread. I quite nicely pointed that out and told people where to have a look before shouting around. I do know that because I tried it myself and couldnt get my Bluetooth devices working. Once I flashed the original Radio back, my BT problems were gone.
And my third line - in which I may chose the wrong words, 'gay' for example - holds information targeted at people with for example the branded french SFR ROM or the original HTC french ROM. The SFR ROM is just horribly branded and if you go through the threads here you'll find people complaining about problems which then turn out to be related to the ROM. The french HTC ROM is flawed as well, it has severe problems with the volume control. I don't exactly remember what it was, but it's a flawed ROM, thats for sure. The German o2 ROM isnt flawless either, I know that because I originally had that ROM. Once I flashed my orbit 2 with the original HTC WWE ROM, I found it to be working alot better and smoother than with the o2 ROM originally provided. And this is where my last line comes into play: if you suffer problems related to your currently flashed ROM, they could be diminished by flashing an alternative ROM. But if your device is broken, and I personally and strongly believe that everybody fooling around in this forum should be intelligent enough and able to determine the sense of my words, eg. if he/she suffers a ROM problem or if the device just simply is dead and take appropriate actions.
And now to your contribution feaps. I feel personally attacked by your words. Thats why I defended my words in all the paragraphs above. Trust me, I've had enough mobile devices of all sorts to know what it means to get a not working once. Its frustrating and makes you want to throw it out of the window. And being able to see the quality decrease over time is just another drop on a hot stone. I agree. But be honest, if your BT unit works and stopps working once you engage a software based function, the problem is software related, dont you think? As for the GPRS settings, I cant tell. Since I use a free ROM which has the wizard built in (o2 removed it from their ROM) I didnt switch my SIM and the configuration worked, automatically and every single time. And I do use IMAP as well on my personal E-Mail account. Until now I didnt run across any problems, so I cant give you any feedback on that either.
So rethink again if I mess around or not or if I actually try to contribute and help the freshmen, coming into this forum and flashing whatever they find and breaking their devices. And recommending to flash the original HTC ROM, which should be/is the base for everything floating around, breaking your devices, is a serious input to everybody.
Edit: I forgot to add, pointed at nooms, there are cooked ROMs out there which stupidly have the new, flawed Radio baked in. Which Radio are you on? Try Start > Settings > Tab System > Device Information > Tab Version. Are you inadvertedly still on Radio 1.58.25.14 or back to (original) 1.58.21.23?
Hi everyone,
I agree with Schaggo completely. Most of the time problems have something to do with the software on the device. But I a not a tweaker like most of you guys, i've just bought my first (and hopefully not last) HTC phone. If i have problems of some kind, all i can do is reset the thing. A hard reset if necessary. I've done that many times. I can't change the software that comes standard and i don't think i should be the one who has to do that. Shouldnt HTC be doing that??
Anyway, Bluetooth keeps saying it has an hardware error. My radio version is a standard 1.58.21.23 but isnt finding any radiostations here in holland. Is it also broken? (sorry, i know, its a bit off topic)
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My answer was supposed to be pointing in different directions.
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And now to your contribution feaps. I feel personally attacked by your words.
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But be honest, if your BT unit works and stopps working once you engage a software based function, the problem is software related, dont you think?
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As for the GPRS settings, I cant tell. Since I use a free ROM which has the wizard built in (o2 removed it from their ROM) I didnt switch my SIM and the configuration worked, automatically and every single time. And I do use IMAP as well on my personal E-Mail account. Until now I didnt run across any problems, so I cant give you any feedback on that either.
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So rethink again if I mess around or not or if I actually try to contribute and help the freshmen, coming into this forum and flashing whatever they find and breaking their devices.
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Well put. Sorry for being rude, but I keep seeing people offending others day after day in this forum that used to be high level; but that doesn't mean I should act the same way.
I totally misread you and please accept my apologies.
My ROM is: 1.25.405.1 WWE
ROM Date: 12/11/07
Radio Version: 1.58.21.23
Protocol Version: 25.65.30.04H
One thing I could notice is that HTC has a flaw in the Flush HKCU to Permanent Memory While Shutting Down. Some keys are not written.
One example is the MagiCall (an app I use) registration key. The software maker had to write a flush app for doing that. Another example is the Start>Settings>System>Error reporting. No matter what you chose, after a power cycle or a soft reset, it always go back to "Disable...".
I have, also, already tested the device after the hard reset with no extra apps on it. Same lame behavior on BT...
So, SW QA levels are really dropping fast on new HTC models. That is pretty bad.
But anyway, I have an open case with HTC and if I find something contributive I will toch base with this thread.
Once again, sorry for being rude.
Best,
-Feaps
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Anyway, Bluetooth keeps saying it has an hardware error. My radio version is a standard 1.58.21.23 but isnt finding any radiostations here in holland. Is it also broken? (sorry, i know, its a bit off topic)
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Then I guess you most probably got a bad unit. I guess the only solution at this time is an exchange.
The Radio-Firmware doesnt control the FM Radio btw The Radio-Firmware controls connections to the providers network, Wireless LAN and Bluetooth. But the FM Radio seems to be really bad in the Polaris, a lot of ppl I know complain about it.
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please accept my apologies.
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No problem dude! There is no need for such an excessive appology. We are in a Forum and people have different oppinions and I think its totally acceptable to shout at each other. I just wanted to express that I'm not in accord regarding your judgement of my post. But thanks a lot, I seriously really appreciate it!
Yes, your device seems pretty standard to me and the scenario you described logically made me think of a software error. But this seems very unlikely now. I'm out of ideas for the moment then, I guess you have to return or exchange it too.
You are perfectly right about the dropping SW QA though. You can notice the registry glitch in other areas as well: backlight timer always reset to 30 sec, and there are more settings all over the place which don't get saved properly.
Again, no problem, everybody lets be cool
Bluetooth doesn't turn on
I have the same problem. Did anyone find a solution?
Also camera fails to initialize, touch pad is sometimes very slow for initial reaction. I have NO added programs beyond manafacturer originals and have tried a number of hard resets. Doesn't help.
Jeremy