Hi
Anyone else find the quality of sound on the Windows Media 'tinny' and lacking real substence - through headphones of course??? (I have an xda2s)
Any solutions out there? ie a better media player with a graphic equaliser, or an add-on graphic equaliser for the Windows Media??
Thanks
HPJ
ps also are we allowed to swop songs on here?? Doesn't seem illegal to me, would just be like lending a mate a CD....???
lending CD's is also illegal
not equalizer, just bass boost & treble http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14317
Thank you very much Ajong.
That is perfect......bass is as it should be!!!
ps sorry it had already been asked & answered.....
HPJ
I want to be able to play ogg files in media player on my XDAIIi, is this possible? If not, then I see there are a plethora of media players out there, Which would be most similar to media player to use?
Thanks,
Allan
ps I want ogg support as I believe it is the best quality codec for small files, please let me know if anyone has any opinions on this? or better codecs?
http://tcpmp.corecodec.org/about
is the player that most people like
not 100% sure but i dont think mediaplayer from ms on pocketpc can use external codecs
it only really likes ms's own formats and then it does mp3 too but otherwise it's pretty poor supportwise
The old BetaPlayer as it was known back then is great features wise, but not very slick.
I think that PocketMusic is a great alternative, or perhaps at least for BP to be used as well as a commercial program.
The Bundle version of PM plays OGG files as well, amongst others.
Cheers
Ant
I've tried a crap load of Media Player apps from the market and none of them support .wma files. Has ANYONE found one that works?
Tanx...
-Mc
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I've tried a crap load of Media Player apps from the market and none of them support .wma files. Has ANYONE found one that works?
Tanx...
-Mc
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I'm in to Flac, and happy that a few current Froyo ROM's now support imaginatively. Never cared for Andless and Meridian. Anyways, as far as WMA I saw this searching. I have NO IDEA of quality or if it works.
http://uploaded.to/file/n5tskd
I tried that a while ago. It does but the player is VERY buggy and doesn't support any type of playlists or playing more than one file at a time.
Yah, I wish I'd have ripped all my CD's in FLAC but because I was a WinMo fanboy and I use Windows at work, I saw no reason for anything but .WMA.
The HTC devices (sold by HTC) support .wma. I'm figuring it's a codec of some sort to add that functionality back to the stock media player. I need to read up on adding FLAC support to the stock ROM and maybe I can pick up how to do it with .WMA as well.
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-Mc
You can convert .wma to .flac pretty easily with foobar2000. I'm assuming of course that the OP has ripped everything in lossless .wma and not compressed .wma, otherwise using .flac would be pointless. If you have a huge collection of lossless music, it would be a good idea to do this to your entire collection anyway for the sake of compatibility in the future.
The other option if you're sticking with a stock N1 ROM is to convert everything to lossless .wav, which has native support in the stock ROM. For that process, you can download the Windows Media Audio Lossless to Wave Converter directly from Microsoft.
I have some ogg vorbis music files. When the Music folder is scanned it reads in the information properly from mp3 files, but not ogg files. It shows "Unknown Artist". I have checked the tags and the Artist is there. In addition, some programs display the Artist information (from the tag) when playing. But when you go to search by artist, all apps (I have tried several) show "Unknown Artist".
Does anyone know where the media scanning code is located? Maybe I could look at it and see why it isn't handling ogg files.
Thanks.
A fellow Vorbis user!
I have never gotten any ROM to view Vorbis tags - I also had this issue on early Pandigital Novel tablet ROM's, which were later corrected. I already asked VS CS to fix this, but I always assumed that I was the only one who ever called them about this.
I'm not sure if this is kernel or framework based.
Well, I see there is an MediaStore and associated classes and given that multiple music apps seem to be sharing the scanned library, I suspect it is in the Android code, not the Linux kernel. On my Ubuntu there is no problem with ogg files either. So any idea where to find the media scanning code?
Thanks.
Unfortunately I don't know. I usually use an app like Rockbox, which uses its own database.
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Yeah, I've noticed this as well, even on my Droid. It's definitely in the android code.
It's tough being a vorbis user...
Hey, just thought I'd chime in if you didn't mind me.
Yeah, I have a huge collection of Ogg Vorbis files on my computer, and my media player software on my laptop does not read tags either (my files were converted from mp3s, I thought maybe the tags were stripped out).
Same thing on my GTablet and my Nexus One, non of my media player software on Android reads the tags either (if they still exist).
In my case, the tags are definitely there - I know because I'm meticulous with adding them. My Cowon S9 sees them, Rhythmbox sees them, but not the music players on this device (except Rockbox).
Want this fixed? Call VS and complain, in all seriousness. I think the guy on the phone almost laughed at me when I told him Vorbis tags were broken. Not exactly high on their priority list.
Btw, transcoding MP3's to Vorbis should be avoided, if at all possible. It's a lossy to lossy transfer, which means that there will be quality loss. Think of the old days of copying a VHS tape to another tape - each generation is inferior to the previous one. If you can, keep your "master" copy as a lossless file like ALAC or FLAC, and from the best source you can find (like a CD). That way, you can make lossy copies from that lossless source to reduce quality losss.
(I'm a big music fan).
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Btw, transcoding MP3's to Vorbis should be avoided, if at all possible. It's a lossy to lossy transfer, which means that there will be quality loss. Think of the old days of copying a VHS tape to another tape - each generation is inferior to the previous one. If you can, keep your "master" copy as a lossless file like ALAC or FLAC, and from the best source you can find (like a CD). That way, you can make lossy copies from that lossless source to reduce quality losss.
(I'm a big music fan).
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Yeah, well, gotta conserve space somewhere (and I don't have a FLAC converter).
Still, I need space for more music and since OGG helps me to save space a little bit, it's totally worth it for me.
Sorry, but I lose my master copies as soon as the conversion is done. The originals were copies from CDs using other software (as in, straight from the CD audio .cda to .MP3 and then to .OGG, but not always. Sometimes, I go straight to .OGG.).
I put the CDs back in their cases and the temporary file is deleted is what I mean.
I remember VHS tapes!
Wow, I feel old... I wonder if their quality degrades over time?
I'd hate to see what they look like now...
Hi,
I want to enter da smartphonz world, and i'm makin a few research. About WP, I know the OS is completely locked up 'cause of M$, but I don't give a damn. Except on one point:
Is there applications which let me look at a .mkv video? And if I cannot, what happens with subs, especially .srt, and multiples soundtracks, Japanese/English/French as an example?
Thank you
For mkv files you'll need to convert them to mp4 and as for subs you'll need them merged into the video for it to be able to be seen on WP7
Okay.
So disappointing....
Android, here I come!
The lack of most common video codecs/container on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv container... etc???! .... What a shame.
Still hoping for it
Sent from my LG-E900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
You can sync nearly everything through zune...
But that's the only thing you can do atm...
But keep being positive: 'cuz cotulla and other devs working to unlock the phone in a way that we can write native apps and that would open the possibility to port other music/video player which include support for other codecs
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The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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I have flv working. I am making a browser which will let you play megavideo files. I plan to include more video sites. It works quite well... Ill open a thread soon with more info
Chabun and Marvin, thank you. Hope isn't lost
But M$ stays M$: they will probably never support officially an open-source codec. Even iOS can play mkv, using alternative players.
I'm gonna search the web to find lore about Cotulla
since when is mkv a codec? MKV is a container, usually containing a non-open codec (h.264), which MS supports. All they need to do is support the container...
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The lack of most common video codecs on Windows Phone 7 is becoming a serious problem indeed...
Where are Flv, DivX|Avi, Mkv... etc???! .... What a shame.
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Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).
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Don't mix up containers and codecs, it's a different kind of things
BTW, for containers Silverlight has a great feature, custom container parser, called MediaStreamSource. So nobody preventing you from writing your own container support including Matroska (.mkv)
But WP7 video codecs are really limited to: MPEG-4 part 2, MPEG-4 part 10 (H.264), WMV9, H.263, and of course, raw RGB (you may implement your own decoding however w/o hardware acceleration it will be very slow/not possible).
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You are right
I am not a developer. All I need is a native Avi player. I think it's the minimum I can expect from a smartphone nowadays.
Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
With WP7 (and Zune) it's a mess and a waste of time.
Sometimes WP7 seems really hopeless...
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Even my all business Blackberry Bold can read Avi movie files. Just a drag & drop via USB cable and I can watch my movies
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I understand your point. However why do not use a streaming video?
Instead "just drag&n&dropping" 4-6 GB HD movies in .mkv (what is not "just" but takes a veeeeery looooong time ) you may instantly transcode and watch video. AFAIK there are few existing solutions on marketplace (I do have my own - much-much better than existing apps but unpublished and still under very slow development - I'm implementing Mango features such as background queue downloader etc.)
The cons is - you need a powerful desktop PC/notebook, always on, to serve streaming but the pros is -you'll have your very own streaming server, transcode can be done in realtime (even for full HD movies!)
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I don't think so. Seems like MS have a "gradual" strategy to open new API's and features; also, xda whitehats working hard to build "freedom" ROM's for WP7 (probably, someone can port good native arm wince videoplayer).
Srsly, I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to stream movies just like cloud music, like a "mediaplayer dropbox"?
Don't you know that most carriers don't offer unlimited data plans? And in order to stream Full HD files, you need 4G don't you?
On board medias will be outdated one day, sure, but not now, unfortunately.
If I misunderstood your speech, just tell me
And thank you all for your explanation about the differences between codecs and containers, that was really useful.
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You misunderstood me completely
First (fortunately) WP7 is not limited to 3G connection only: there are WiFi and Ethernet (via USB).
Second, I already stream movies like "cloud music" Technically it works like: I have a "streaming server" (small WPF C# program, running on my home media server/player PC), and WP7 app, streaming video client (with ability to download and store media). PC program preforms a real-time "transparent" (on the fly) transcoding of medias, and "stream" (not a real stream of course) transcoded data to the WP7 player.
I don't have an unlimited data plan so my usual "scenarios" are:
- if I do have a WiFi access (most hotels/places etc.) I can easy browse media folders on my home PC and watch any movie;
- if I'm going somewhere without WiFi access (to the flight, campground, beach etc.) and want to watch movies, I've put some movies to the queue and download 'em via WiFi/Eth to the handset. Average size of 2 hours transcoded movie is about 600/800 Mb (actually it depends, what kind of adaptive stream mode I have chosen)
Average transocde frame rate (conversion speed) for the full HD video is about 90-110 fps on my PC. It's not too fast but I do have cache
So, in general my solution is useful and not so bad (I also have an Android tablets, with mounted network shares of my media folders. And most often, I can't play video because of player or network bandwidth limitation - full HD videos are huge!)
What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.
Okay, I got it. A real player could be better, if I want to change options like subs or everything else while playing on my phone, but the "screen capture" erases all the troubles about codecs and co.
Other issue is the time spoilt because of the conversion on the computer, and not "live" on the phone. And it depends on your PC CPU, not on the smartphone processing unit. But you problably increase the battery life of the phone, don't you?
That's awesome, yep
Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks
stan2, we are talking about video player solution, not about piracy. Please stay on topic (of course if you have something to say)...
stan2 said:
What is the usefulness of MKV beside pirating movies and tv shows? Tell me what do you mainly use MKVs for besize pirating?
If you can't afford netflix account and/or zune movies, then because you're either jobless or a pirating hoohaas.
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Well you're right. I'm legally pirating contents not available in my area. This isn't an excuse, I know, but honestly, what should I do? I buy what I can buy: movies, music thanks to Amazon (I can waste around 100 bucks a month that way). But when it comes to underground japanese animation, whitout any official translation or dubbed version, the only way is mkv.
Edit: TV show? I don't watch this kind of crap, ty.
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Do we have CorePlayer & TCMP player on WP7
to play Videos ?
are there more players like these
where when we stop a video continues
from the exact place again ?
Thanks
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That IS the subject of this thread
And no, we don't have anything like that. TCMP is on WM.