I just flashed my HTC Wizard with Core 2.0n. Its a G4 Locked wizard with TMo in the USA. I have the full PDA $30 (Or is it $20) a month data plan. My GPRS settings are as follows
Proxy
216.155.165.050:8080
Authentication
Tried both CHAP and PAP
Modem Thingy
wap.voicestream.com
I have tried to put the ip as follows
216.155.165.050
216.155.165.050_
216.155.165.50
216.155.165.50_
The line means that there is a space after the last digit. When I try all these settings, I get different errors in IE - It either halts on "Locating", or says the page was downloaded but corrupted, or the page cant be accessed. Also, I tried running the cab file I found on the forums, but that wont work either. Also, when I send/recieve mail, it says it cant connect with current connection settings.
Someone please let me know how to configure the GPRS!
if you're paying full price, then you probably wont need the proxy. so disable the proxy!
and I think you will want to use
internet2.voicestream.com
if that didnt work
internet3.voicestream.com
wap.voicestream.com is for t-mobile winwap service
Definately fix the IP address to end .50 (no spaces)
--M
if you have the t-mobile total internet plan then you don't need a proxy at all. also replace wap.voicestream.com with internet2.voicestream.com.
okay first thing is first... like everyone said get rid of the proxy.
second contrarty to what everyone is thus far saying, don't change your access point name to internet2.voicestream.com just yet.
Do the following:
Start----Settings---Connections----Connections---Manage Existing Connections----Delete what you have there----Create a New connection and enter in the following info:
Name: T-Mobile Data
Modem: Cellular Line (GPRS)
Access Point Name: wap.voicestream.com
Leave user name, password, and domain blank and click Finish.
Try connecting now. If this works your set; if it doesn't work then edit this and try using internet2.voicestream.com for the access point name. The thing is that if you use internet2 and you want to use the T-Mobile mail triggers application you won't be able to as it is not supported by default on the internet2 access point.
As for your MMS settings it should be as follows:
Server name: T-Mobile
Gateway: 216.155.165.50
Port Number: 8080
Server Address: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms
Connect Via: T-Mobile (whatever you data connection is called)
Sending size limitation: 300K
WAP Version: WAP 2.0
For more information go to:
http://tmobileusotw.wdsglobal.com/
Cheers,
lvlolvlo
Oh guys . Thank you for ur help. I will try what u suggested and will tell u tomorrow (I dont have strong cell signal at my house)
I never knew i didnt need the proxy. The tmobile wireless configurator said I did I guess I'm just stupid.
Also, just wondering, I have the Core 2 rom. My battery life goes from 100%, 99,98,97,96, then 5%, 4%, then shuts off. It just misses all the numbers in the middle. The Core 2 Rom thread is 50+ pages long, and I cant find a sure answer. Any suggestions as to how to fix this? Thanks again.
i switched over to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=297762
wap settings
You have to setup a connection
you can either use
wap.voicestream.com or internet2.voicestream.com
add a new connection
then when it asks for a apn use either of the ywo that were aboved mentioned
no username or password
I removed the proxy then set the wap thing to internet2.voicestream.com. I also tried wap and internet 3.
I reset the connection, but when I boot up PIE, it says connceting. Then after establishing a connection, it says
The answering moden has dissconnected. To check your connection settings and change them if needed, tap settings.
I did remove the proxy and set the WAP thing properly. What do I do now?
Here is the breakdown for t-mobile USA
If you are paying $29.99 this is the internet with a hotspot login account. With this, you simply make a profile with NO proxies, and access point: internet2.voicestream.com . With this setup, you can use your phone as a modem for your laptop.
If you are paying for $5.99 T-zones, you can browse the majority of the web but a few sites are not accessible (i.e. cannot connect to sites such as www.myspace.com) and cannot use this as a modem. In this case, you NEED to have proxies. access point will be wap.voicestream.com with proxies:
216.155.165.50
(.050 is INCORRECT)
HTTP port is 8080, the rest will be the defualt value it suggests.
wap.voicestream.com will NOT work unless you are using the $5.99 t-zones (which they tell you will not work if you ask them for it (b/c they want you to pay more); but i assure you it does)
But for broader internet access, the $29.99 plan will be ideal as it has no website restrictions (though i haven't run into many other than myspace.com with the $5.99 plan)
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Here is the breakdown for t-mobile USA
If you are paying $29.99 this is the internet with a hotspot login account. With this, you simply make a profile with NO proxies, and access point: internet2.voicestream.com . With this setup, you can use your phone as a modem for your laptop.
If you are paying for $5.99 T-zones, you can browse the majority of the web but a few sites are not accessible (i.e. cannot connect to sites such as www.myspace.com) and cannot use this as a modem. In this case, you NEED to have proxies. access point will be wap.voicestream.com with proxies:
216.155.165.50
(.050 is INCORRECT)
HTTP port is 8080, the rest will be the defualt value it suggests.
wap.voicestream.com will NOT work unless you are using the $5.99 t-zones (which they tell you will not work if you ask them for it (b/c they want you to pay more); but i assure you it does)
But for broader internet access, the $29.99 plan will be ideal as it has no website restrictions (though i haven't run into many other than myspace.com with the $5.99 plan)
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most of what you posted is correct. however you CAN use the phone as a modem with the $5.99 plan. you just have to specify the proxy in your browser just like you do on the phone.
you also skipped the part about the BB plan for $19.99. it's a trick but it will give you full internet like the total internet plan but for $10 cheaper. it uses wap.voicestream.com and no proxy. you have FULL internet capability and can tether.
I still am having the same problem. What type of authentication do I use? PAP or CHAP?
two things
wap.voicestream.com does work no matter what
make sure when setting up your connection that you select the one you are testing as a defalt or the later will happen. Also you can click and hold the connection name down and say connect.
Lastly call t-mobile and verfiy that they did accidently remove data. Trust me happen more often than not
WDS Josh said:
most of what you posted is correct. however you CAN use the phone as a modem with the $5.99 plan. you just have to specify the proxy in your browser just like you do on the phone.
you also skipped the part about the BB plan for $19.99. it's a trick but it will give you full internet like the total internet plan but for $10 cheaper. it uses wap.voicestream.com and no proxy. you have FULL internet capability and can tether.
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A patch was posted on May 9th that blocked out and patched the free wap internet. Its a pity. But even if you use the proxy, the websites that were blocked on your phone would still be blocked on your computer becuase you're using the same proxy ports. The reason i didn't mention blackberry is cuz some idiot is gonna read it and ask a t-mobile rep about the blackberry plan for their MDA. I personally have the blackberry plan, but i dont need some stupid noob to mess it up for me and the rest of us. The last thing we need is another internet patch!
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A patch was posted on May 9th that blocked out and patched the free wap internet. Its a pity. But even if you use the proxy, the websites that were blocked on your phone would still be blocked on your computer becuase you're using the same proxy ports. The reason i didn't mention blackberry is cuz some idiot is gonna read it and ask a t-mobile rep about the blackberry plan for their MDA. I personally have the blackberry plan, but i dont need some stupid noob to mess it up for me and the rest of us. The last thing we need is another internet patch!
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oh i know all about the patch as I work for them. ya the free internet is gone but you can still tether with the $5.99 with the proxy. you make a good point that i failed to mention though as it's going to have the same port restrictions that you would have on the phone....so just basic HTML and email.
personally I don't see how they can stop the BB plan from being used on a MDA or any device for that matter. Trust me, t-mobile knows about that "work around" but as of yet, they haven't done anything about it.
WDS Josh said:
personally I don't see how they can stop the BB plan from being used on a MDA or any device for that matter. Trust me, t-mobile knows about that "work around" but as of yet, they haven't done anything about it.
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It's all about user perception. The general user will select their device on mytmobile and see what services tmobile "offers" for it. The general user assumes that tmobile is only showing thm what will work with their device. The rest of us know otherwise and chhose our device according to the services we "know" will work with whatever device we choose.
While it does suck that the "free" service is gone, thats just what it was, FREE. Oh well. I'll just keep paying $5.99 and using the proxy. As it has been said before, most sites will work and as long as PUSH from my exchange works I could care less about browsing.
Try this
Change your gprs authentication setting from chap to pap.
jmastera said:
It's all about user perception. The general user will select their device on mytmobile and see what services tmobile "offers" for it. The general user assumes that tmobile is only showing thm what will work with their device. The rest of us know otherwise and chhose our device according to the services we "know" will work with whatever device we choose.
While it does suck that the "free" service is gone, thats just what it was, FREE. Oh well. I'll just keep paying $5.99 and using the proxy. As it has been said before, most sites will work and as long as PUSH from my exchange works I could care less about browsing.
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yep. one thing that does piss me off about the $5.99 plan is that MSN/Live Messenger won't work. I guess it uses a non standard port so I would need the full data plan for it. Unless you guys have a work around for it or maybe a program that you can specify the port or it uses SMS instead of data.
Chap to Pap!
In the USA, I beleive it should be Chap!
What should it be? CHAP or PAP?
Also, I have a really low signal strength around my house. I wanted to know if theres a good but small antenna I can buy to plug into the antenna port on the back of the phone to get better reception.
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I need help tryign to figure out how to get streaming to work on my tilt. i have done a search and have found no solutions to this problem. people have talked about it but no one has posted a way to get streaming to work. any ideas?
Thanks
What kind of data do you want to stream and from where to where do you want to stream it? Also, you should be aware that it is against AT&T's TOS to stream video over their network and will get you terminated.
i woudl liek to stream XM from this site http://mobile.musicdock.com
bad post.. sorry
there is already an XM app for WM6. from what I have read it is not possible to stream XM via PIE.
Someone correct me if i am worng.
How is it against TOS
When they give you cellular video for free?
Thats video streaming.
The best I know of is a website that will stream XM for you. From what I recall, it is pretty limited but it will do some channels.
Streaming XM Radio
This one works best for me
http://www.xstreamxm.com/mobile/
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When they give you cellular video for free?
Thats video streaming.
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+1 on that. How the heck is it not allowed??
i cant stream anything, every time i try to stream for some reason it tries to reconnect then done not buffer over 0%. very frustrating. i have done a lot of reserch on this and have found this:
http://forums.cingular.com/cng/boar...essage.id=23969&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
but it does not work i still cant stream. there has to be a fix for this. anyone?
most problems I see with streaming not working on the Tilt is that if you have a medianet plan (not a PDA connect plan) streaming media will not work UNLESS you go into your connection settings and uncheck the box that says "my connection uses a proxy to connect" or something like that. Hope this helps. It will be in Settings --> connections --> connections ---> My ISP: Manage existing connections
got it to work, i changed the Mideanet settings. to:
use the access point name isp.cingular
On the next page, enter either ISP.CINGULARGPRS.COM or [email protected] (either will work) for username and CINGULAR1 for password (make sure they are all in caps)
Leave Domain name blank
Under advanced, make sure the only things selected are "Use server assigned IP address" and "Use IP header compression" - leave everything else unselected.
Click ok and then finish
I cannot connect at all using these setttings. I have the unlimited PDA plan.
The only thing that works is the default MEdiaNet connection with proxy unchecked.
Why is this?
With medianet
I use access point WAP.CINGULAR and username [email protected]. Don't know why, or what it means vs. isp.cingular...but it works.
What's the difference? (yes...I don't know jack about phones)
some one smarter then me needs to figure this out.
There are two unlimited data plans available thru AT&T. They are:
PDA Personal MAX Unlimited and PDA Connect Unlimited.
PDA Connect Unlimited is not advertised on the website. You need to call and ask for it. Why you ask? The PDA Personal MAX plan only gives you access to the wap.cingular APN (MediaNet settings). The PDA Connect plan gives you access to the isp.cingular APN (My ISP settings).
What is the difference between the two APNs? The wap.cingular APN uses a proxy to route the traffic. This is bad if you are trying to stream anything as they can see that you are streaming and kill it. This is hit or miss as they do not always monitor your traffic so some people get away with it, others do not. This is also bad if you need to connect to a VPN. But this is exactly why they have the isp.cingular APN - for business users.
The isp.cingular APN does not use a proxy and actually assigns an IP. If you are a business user and call and explain that you need to connect to a VPN you can get switched over to the PDA Connect plan. If you are a really smooth talker and get a nice rep, you can convince them to open you up the the isp.cingular APN on your PDA Personal MAX plan.
Hope this helps.
Thanks for the reply. After reading this, I called AT&T and talked to business customer service (since I'm a gov't employee). The rep was very firm when they said I need to pay $79.99 a month for the PDA Connect plan. The price is RIDICULOUS, even though you get unlimited messages and tethering.
I could care less about streaming video. It works just fine for me. I connect to my Slingbox at home and am able to watch baseball/football when I'm out and about.
The thing that kills me is no VPN connectivity. I have a home VPN that I would love to be able to connect to. I had no idea why it wasn't working for me. When I click and hold the connection for the VPN and select (connect), it shows me connecting, but then nothing happens.
I was under the impression that VPN would work regardless of connection.
**EDIT**
Since I'm a business user still under a 2-year contract, they offered me a $59.99 a month plan that only covers unlimited data on isp.cingular (no messaging). My current plan is the PDA Personal Max, which add $5 a month to get unlimited m2m (in addition to the 1500 messages included). So if I were to go with the $59 plan, I'd still have to add at least $5+5 to get 200 messages and unlimited m2m.
I'm thoroughly disgusted and disappointed in how expensive it is, just to be able to access a VPN once in a while....
marm0lade said:
There are two unlimited data plans available thru AT&T. They are:
PDA Personal MAX Unlimited and PDA Connect Unlimited.
PDA Connect Unlimited is not advertised on the website. You need to call and ask for it. Why you ask? The PDA Personal MAX plan only give you access the the wap.cingular APN (MediaNet settings). The PDA Connect plan gives you access to the isp.cingular APN (My ISP settings).
What is the difference between the two APNs? The wap.cingular APN uses a proxy to route the traffic. This is bad if you are trying to stream anything as they can see that you are streaming and kill it. This is hit or miss as they do not always monitor your traffic so some people get away with it, others do not. This is also bad if you need to connect to a VPN. But this is exactly why they have the isp.cingular APN - for business users.
The isp.cingular APN does not use a proxy and actually assigns an IP. If you are a business user and call and explain that you need to connect to a VPN you can get switched over to the PDA Connect plan. If you are a really smooth talker and get a nice rep, you can convince them to open you up the the isp.cingular APN on your PDA Personal MAX plan.
Hope this helps.
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That price is pretty whack. I was told over on the AT&T forum that they have a lower priced PDA Connect plan for $49 a month. This plan is data only tho, no messaging and no tethering (even tho we all know how to bypass that ). He probably only told you about the most expensive plan. I would call back and see about getting the cheaper one if you don't need messaging.
Edit: Didn't see you got the price quote for data only. $60 a month is rape just to be able to access the isp.cingular APN. Shame on you AT&T.
I was first told about the $79 plan. I told them that was ridiculous. He said that was all he could offer. I asked for manager.
Manager was much more knowledgeable. Manager told me about $59 plan, but stressed that it had no messaging included. He said I could add $5 for 200 anywhere messages, and another $5 to get unlimited messaging to other AT&T users (like my girlfriend, on my other account).
The only reason he said I could have the $59 plan was because I was still within my 2 year contract....
Absolutely outrageous.
marm0lade said:
That price is pretty whack. I was told over on the AT&T forum that they have a lower priced PDA Connect plan for $49 a month. This plan is data only tho, no messaging and no tethering (even tho we all know how to bypass that ). He probably only told you about the most expensive plan. I would call back and see about getting the cheaper one if you don't need messaging.
Edit: Didn't see you got the price quote for data only. $60 a month is rape just to be able to access the isp.cingular APN. Shame on you AT&T.
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Your best bet with plan changes is to find a local rep in a store who has a clue. When I called to change my data plan, the prices I was quoted on the phone were $20 higher than the same plans on the web. The rep told me that only an in-store rep could give me the web prices.
Flapjack said:
I was first told about the $79 plan. I told them that was ridiculous. He said that was all he could offer. I asked for manager.
Manager was much more knowledgeable. Manager told me about $59 plan, but stressed that it had no messaging included. He said I could add $5 for 200 anywhere messages, and another $5 to get unlimited messaging to other AT&T users (like my girlfriend, on my other account).
The only reason he said I could have the $59 plan was because I was still within my 2 year contract....
Absolutely outrageous.
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I see a lot of these Roms floating around that auto-customize for AT&T and set up the access point for your data connection as "isp.cingular." This is NOT RIGHT for SOME people.
I've said this in a few threads, but I'll say it again here - hopefully many people will see it.
Not all unlimited data plans allows you to use isp.cingular as your access point. If your plan does not allow for isp.cingular but you use it, you may be charge per kb for downloads.
Although at&t has removed these charges in the past, it's best to know what is going on so you can avoid it. I've seen people billed every month per kb while the rep swears up and down it won't happen again and that their "unlimited" data is properly applied to the account. Some of the reps don't understand their own data plans.
So: here's the difference.
Cheap unlimited data plans such as mediamax, etc. DO NOT allow you to access data through isp.cingular. You must use wap.cingular instead.
Expensive unlimited data plans such as PDA connect, laptop connect, etc. (pretty much anything over $40/mo) DO allow you to connect through isp.cingular.
isp.cingular gives you higher priority on the network, and is necessary for accessing services such as VPN, etc.
wap.cingular is suitable for every day browsing/email/etc. - is technically just as fast, but does not take priority on the network. So if the network is busy, your traffic will suffer first.
I hope that helps to clear up for people who are having billing issues on their unlimited data plans. Rom chefs may be wise to use the wap.cingular AP in their roms and let advanced users make the switch if they so need.
(I pay $15/mo for Mediamax 200 and use wap.cingular as my access point)
thank you
Thank you for the info.. It is appreciated...
Good thing to know.
I probably wouldn't have checked that each time I load a new ROM. I will from now on...
Access Point
Thanks for the info....great catch
I use the $40 plan & I noticed that my access point was set to wap.cingular. I switched to isp.cingular and it didn't work.
Is it possible to give us complete settings for both.....thanks.
isp.cingular does not work with the PDA Personal Max Plan. For that plan you have to use isp.cingular.
To further clarify. PDA Personal options STILL use wap.cingular. You must change to PDA Connect which doesn't come with any texting to use isp.cingular.
dwny said:
Thanks for the info....great catch
I use the $40 plan & I noticed that my access point was set to wap.cingular. I switched to isp.cingular and it didn't work.
Is it possible to give us complete settings for both.....thanks.
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dbaser said:
isp.cingular does not work with the PDA Personal Max Plan. For that plan you have to use isp.cingular.
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isp.cingular only works on the tethering plans ($70-80/mnth)... I have the PDA Personal Unlimited with 1500 MSGs and I can only connect to wap.cingular.
fb401 said:
To further clarify. PDA Personal options STILL use wap.cingular. You must change to PDA Connect which doesn't come with any texting to use isp.cingular.
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You do not need PDA Connect (PDA Connect no longer exists) to hit isp.cingular, just one of the tethering plans which are all PDA Personal and they do come with messaging:
PDA Personal Max (Tethering) - $69.99
PDA Personal Max Unlimited Data & Tethering plus 1500 Messages
PDA Personal Max /w Unl M2M Messaging - $74.99
PDA Personal Max Unlimited Data, Tethering & M2M Messaging plus 1500 Messages
PDA Personal Max Unl Messaging (Tethering) - $79.99
PDA Personal Max Unlimited plus Unlimited Messaging & Tethering
Hello -
I have a business account and my data plan is listed as 'PDA Connect - UNL' which I assume is unlimited. I tried connecting to isp.cingular but couldn't - I can only connect to wap.cingular successfully. Should I be able to use the faster connection with my plan?
Also - are there any other settings that might speed things up?
thanks!
gthing said:
I see a lot of these Roms floating around that auto-customize for AT&T and set up the access point for your data connection as "isp.cingular." This is NOT RIGHT for SOME people.
I've said this in a few threads, but I'll say it again here - hopefully many people will see it.
Not all unlimited data plans allows you to use isp.cingular as your access point. If your plan does not allow for isp.cingular but you use it, you may be charge per kb for downloads.
Although at&t has removed these charges in the past, it's best to know what is going on so you can avoid it. I've seen people billed every month per kb while the rep swears up and down it won't happen again and that their "unlimited" data is properly applied to the account. Some of the reps don't understand their own data plans.
So: here's the difference.
Cheap unlimited data plans such as mediamax, etc. DO NOT allow you to access data through isp.cingular. You must use wap.cingular instead.
Expensive unlimited data plans such as PDA connect, laptop connect, etc. (pretty much anything over $40/mo) DO allow you to connect through isp.cingular.
isp.cingular gives you higher priority on the network, and is necessary for accessing services such as VPN, etc.
wap.cingular is suitable for every day browsing/email/etc. - is technically just as fast, but does not take priority on the network. So if the network is busy, your traffic will suffer first.
I hope that helps to clear up for people who are having billing issues on their unlimited data plans. Rom chefs may be wise to use the wap.cingular AP in their roms and let advanced users make the switch if they so need.
(I pay $15/mo for Mediamax 200 and use wap.cingular as my access point)
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Great Post. This is something that I have always noticed, more so since I changed my plan from PDA Connect Unlimited to MediaMax Unlimited. There was no reason for me to be paying the extra money. I know that most of the cooked ROMs here come with the Connection Setup/Network Wizard preinstalled but I've had some trouble connecting to Cellular Video even when I enable the proxy from a .cab. For those reasons I use a .cab from wpbear over in the Hermes section that installs the AT&T network settings and puts the proxy folder with restore and disable proxy .cabs in the Programs list that always work for me. I will post this .cab from wpbear shortly if anyone wants it.
Edited: Here is the .cab from wpbear as promised.
See I have PDA personal and my phone is using isp.cingualr and I am not getting any additional charges....
i use pda connect unlimited and have access to isp.cingular, which i use while tethering all the time. I also play WoW on it when im away from a Wifi network.
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See I have PDA personal and my phone is using isp.cingualr and I am not getting any additional charges....
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yeah i have mediamax and didnt realize i was using isp.cingular for about a month and changed to wap...I never got excess data charges, but rather be safe than sorry...I also didnt tether (a lot, only when I was in the airport and didnt feel like getting hosed $10 for 2 hours of access)
Hmm. it sounds like I should be able to use isp.cingular but I'm not sure!
Also - can anyone give a brief explanation of what the PROXY would be used for and when? I keep hearing about the use of a proxy but I'm not sure why/what the point is.
The proxy is used for ATT services that come with your phone. You can download some music and go to the ATT portal for some special services. I don't remember what they are because I don't use them. No proxy is best because it allows you to have a less obstructed port to the outside net. In most cases (if not all) you want the proxy OFF. You only want to turn it on to use those ATT specific services. It has been so long since I have cared that I don't remember what they are.
wireless access and activsync
Perhaps not the right thread, but I'm sure you all will let me know if not. I just flashed to the new Dutty ATT rom and I cannot connect to my server through Activsync. I get a 0x80830003 error. When I flashed an earlier Dutty Rom I got the same problem and fixed it by unchecking the proxy. However, Proxy is unchecked and I am still gtting the error. Any ideas?
And I have searched and found cabs for deleting hidden proxy and provisioning ATT service, installed all and no go.
fastblack said:
i use pda connect unlimited and have access to isp.cingular, which i use while tethering all the time. I also play WoW on it when im away from a Wifi network.
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Just out of curiosity, how are you playing WoW? Using remote desktop or something like that? Thanks!
I meant when tethering to my laptop hehe.
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I meant when tethering to my laptop hehe.
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LOL Gotcha!
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(I pay $15/mo for Mediamax 200 and use wap.cingular as my access point)
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How are you getting this rate when it only sells for $19? If it's a Premier discount, the math applies it to the wireless plan first.
Ok... I don't think I have found a definitive answer on this so I am going to open up another forum.
Personally I have ATT (old Cingular) with the unlimited data plan. Some people say to connect with isp.cingular and some people say to use wap.cingular. Which one is better and why? What DNS settings are better and why? What are the actual connection settings we should be using?
This only applies to US ATT users.
Thanks!
I know that media net wap.cingular is the ap that you are normally assigned when you get an unlimited data plan on the phone.
isp.cingular is supposed to be for tethering plans that cost more.
I have tested both using my Kaiser with internet sharing to a laptop and speedtest.net isp.cingular was just a little faster and it is said that it is supposed to be faster for data customers and supposedly has a higher traffic priority.
What was interesting was that from my location in California Speedtest.net reported isp.cingular as originating in Los Angeles and it reported wap.cingular as originating in Florida.
I've experienced recently myself, that MMS/SMS won't work thru isp.cingular and cingular video as well (I don't use it but read that). So I keep both ap's set up on my phone but have wap.cingular in use most of the time as it seems fine for most all streaming Slingbox video/email/MMS etc. I only use internet sharing occasionally on the road with a laptop and would possibly take the time to re-engage isp.cingular for more speed, but it wouldn't be a huge difference really.
AT&T tech support told me that they were going to really shut down isp.cingular on most phones very soon.
Settings;
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: wap.cingular
Username: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
Connects to: The Internet
Access point: ISP.CINGULAR
User name: [email protected]
Password: CINGULAR1
Primary DNS: 0.0.0.0
Secondary DNS: 0.0.0.0
IP address: (blank)
Thanks! I appreciate the input.
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One thing I would add is you should modify your DNS settings to use the OpenDNS.org servers. It really makes things snappier (doesn't help overall performance, but I've found the initial connection to websites is definetly faster than when you use the Cingular/AT&T DNS servers).
I personally use Kaiser Tweak to disable the isp.cingular entry, and only use the MEdiaNet access and have had no issues. As stated though, if you tether then be careful doing that on MEdiaNet as they may charge you (but I've tethered for short periods of time when I'm in a pinch with no issues). I also downgraded from the PDAConnect plan ($40 per month) to the unlimited MEdiaNet plan ($20 per month).
With the Wap.Cingular you cannot send recieve mail using imap service. You have to use isp.cingular. There are other services that are blocked through the wap.cingular but that arent used that often.
pkapadia,
I don't think that's true. I only have 1 connection enabled on my device and it's using wap.cingular and I can send/receive mail via IMAP. I haven't run into any services that's blocked as yet using wap.
so... what are the AT&T settings?
if AT&T is planning on ending the cingular settings, it would be good to have the new settings from AT&T
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One thing I would add is you should modify your DNS settings to use the OpenDNS.org servers. It really makes things snappier (doesn't help overall performance, but I've found the initial connection to websites is definetly faster than when you use the Cingular/AT&T DNS servers).
I personally use Kaiser Tweak to disable the isp.cingular entry, and only use the MEdiaNet access and have had no issues. As stated though, if you tether then be careful doing that on MEdiaNet as they may charge you (but I've tethered for short periods of time when I'm in a pinch with no issues). I also downgraded from the PDAConnect plan ($40 per month) to the unlimited MEdiaNet plan ($20 per month).
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I am currently in my AT&T trial, likely switching over to this carrier from verizon because of the Kaiser. I currently have a 40$/mo phone plan and a 40$/mo data plan.
What is this 20$/mo plan you speak of with MEdiaNet, could you expand on this please, I'm new to AT&T's pricing plans, I think that 80$/mo is pretty ridiculous, so if you could fill me in on any tips or tricks you know about re: waps and networks, I'd really appreciate it.
I'm sorry if I'm coming across as noobish, I'm really not, but I know squat about pricing plans and such.
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With the Wap.Cingular you cannot send recieve mail using imap service. You have to use isp.cingular. There are other services that are blocked through the wap.cingular but that arent used that often.
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That's 100% false. I use imap mail over wap.cingular daily.
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What is this 20$/mo plan you speak of with MEdiaNet, could you expand on this please, I'm new to AT&T's pricing plans, I think that 80$/mo is pretty ridiculous, so if you could fill me in on any tips or tricks you know about re: waps and networks, I'd really appreciate it.
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Cingular / AT&T change the names of the plans all the time. But what I'm talking about is when you buy a Tilt, AT&T will tell you that you HAVE to have the PDA Connect plan if you want data. This plan is $40 per month (actually $39.95 or thats what it was a year ago and I've seen people still quote that price). What this does give you is access to isp.cingular which is supposed to be a better network connection (and not going through their proxy stuff).
But if you have a "simple" phone like a Razr or similar, you can get the Unlimited MEdiaNet package (At one time it was called MEdiaMax, but now I think that is something else) for $20 (ok, $19.95) per month. Its a full unlimited internet package, but its only wap.cingular (You can actually use isp.cingular, but I've heard some have gotten caught and they charge you for the usage). In my experience (almost a full year now) I've had NO (none, nada, zero, zilch) issues running on MEdiaNet alone. Now taht I'm on a Tilt, 3G works just fine (and with the reg tweak I'm getting the H icon now even and nice speeds from it). If connections settings runs where it sets up both MEdiaNet and ISP, then I go into Kaiser Tweak and I turn off the ISP side and only use MEdiaNet. I then also modify the DNS servers to use the OpenDNS ones and page lookups are noticeably faster.
There is an entire thread about Cingular settings and plans in the Wizard forum (Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280993&highlight=MEdiaNet). I haven't looked at this thread in awhile, so some of the info may be dated (as it was when things were Cingular and not AT&T a year+ ago) but there are posts there from just a few months ago.
Good luck! Shopping for Cellular plans is like the old days of shopping for Long Distance plans with Long Distance companies. Very confusing and its all Apples to Pears in the comparisons (ie: they are similar but they aren't the same).
My xperia x1 still doesnt connect.....
i entered the settings from the previous post and it says 502 Bad Gateway when i try to visit a website. now what lol
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hello fellow member
The answer to your question is the WAP. Reason being the isp, Is more for faster downloading and not the best graphics in the world. att is doing an update to the wap nationwide pretty soon and let me tell you its going to make everything seem better. hope this helps
att world communications analyst.
jacksonite said:
i entered the settings from the previous post and it says 502 Bad Gateway when i try to visit a website. now what lol
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In the last couple of weeks, I've had weird issues on MEdiaNet. I had upgraded to a couple of different roms but thought it might ahve been rom issues, but going back to an older rom that always worked before, I had the same 502 gateway issue. I played around with running the removehiddenproxy cab, and manually tweaking settings and seem to now have it working and stable again. I do think the HTC Connections settings in most of the roms will setup AT&T settings correctly now. I still go in and use Kaiser Tweak to disable the ISP one, and only use MEdiaNet. But I've wondered if AT&T is doing something with MEdiaNet in my area due to it working, then seems to stop for awhile, then starts working again. Still really not sure
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In the last couple of weeks, I've had weird issues on MEdiaNet. I had upgraded to a couple of different roms but thought it might ahve been rom issues, but going back to an older rom that always worked before, I had the same 502 gateway issue. I played around with running the removehiddenproxy cab, and manually tweaking settings and seem to now have it working and stable again. I do think the HTC Connections settings in most of the roms will setup AT&T settings correctly now. I still go in and use Kaiser Tweak to disable the ISP one, and only use MEdiaNet. But I've wondered if AT&T is doing something with MEdiaNet in my area due to it working, then seems to stop for awhile, then starts working again. Still really not sure
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hmm no issues here. I strictly set all connections to medianet.
edit: and this is definitely in the wrong section
ive been tweeking with the settings for 2 weeks now lol. at&t said they dont nkow what to do to make it work either. i even tried sony ericsson tech support they couldnt do anythin about it either. so i dont know what the hell is wrong i think its the username password and domain thing not sure. i dont know if this will make a difference, but i have the regular phone data plan for 14.99 would that be the reason why its not connecting to my xperia? do i really need to have the pda plan?
hello,
I currently have 2 cellphone: Iphone (old one) with Edge dataplan from att.
and HTC Polaris.
I was using HTC Polaris with the SIM from Iphone and e/thing was working just fine untill today, when I was unable to use the Internet connection. My skype still connects but my emails and internet explorer and msn don't connect to the network.
Also, earlier I was able to connect to 3G with HTC.
So, I wanted to know what is going on? Is it because that my HTC is trying to connect to 3G network and thats why my access is blocked or is there anyways to fix it?
Thanks.
No.
I had a motorola RAZR (not even edge!, its just regular gprs) with at&t, got the unlimited media net data for 15$ a month, popped the sim out, put it in a polaris and now i get unlimited 3G for 15$ a month.
It's gotta be something with your connection settings and / or your radio rom possibly? Run the connection setup again and try that.
Everything works for me too on ATT, and I'm on some other data plan not the PDA Data plan. The one thing that doesn't work for me is MMS. I think it might have something to do with Proxy settings, although not sure. It's kinda annoying actually.
MMS works for me, but it's hella expensive.
I have a text plan that includes 200 text messages and pay per use MMS.
It's like 75 cents per MMS i believe.
i have unlimited everything. unlimited data, text, mms. the thing is i can't even receive mms, let alone send.
do you have any proxy settings? my settings show now proxy. with a proxy i can only update weather but i can't do anything else. with no proxy i can actually use opera and other wireless data functions.
i wonder if this has something to do with the fact that i did have an iphone data plan before switching to another one. (no i don't have an iphone, long story though) maybe in att system they still think i have an iphone (since the iphone doesn't send or receive mms and might not use the proxy)?
Are you guys w/o MMS configured properly?
Server name: AT&T MMS
Gateway: wireless.cingular.com
Port number: 80
Server address: http://mmsc.cingular.com
Connect via: MEdia net
Full Instructions here>>>
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB84421
Yeah I have all those settings. I am not however using any proxy settings, don't know if that matters. I get a series of errors when I try to upload or download an MMS. When it uploads it gets to 99% then it doesn't send it. when can't remember what happens it tries to receive, something about forbidden. I've seen several people complain about it on the forum but none of those fixes work.
MMS used to work at some point, so I don't know what happened. It might have something to do when my account was on an iPhone data plan for a few hours. Maybe that messes with the proxy settings / MMS settings for that account??
I've been searching now for about 45 mins(my phone got here an hour ago) and I can't find a definitive answer about how to get data working for T-Mobile on the AT&T Fuze. (I know... I know... I can't 3G since this phone doesn't support the 1700 band but Edge is good enough for now)
Any insight on how to get this working would be really appreciated. I know that there was a network wizard in a bunch of old Wizard ROMS that would allow you to set your carrier and it auto-configured.
Does such a method exist for the Touch Pro?
Search to find the Connection Setup.
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Search to find the Connection Setup.
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I think I found what I was looking for. Took a while but I finally found it.
Just in case you might still be a little lost, here's the link to get all the settings you need.
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I think I found what I was looking for. Took a while but I finally found it.
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Could you post a link? I'm on t-mobile, too, but don't have a data plan. I would like to know the particulars, just in case.
you could just flash a ROM like ROMeOS or Lantis and they set up the connection automatically
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Could you post a link? I'm on t-mobile, too, but don't have a data plan. I would like to know the particulars, just in case.
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I found and used the Network Wizard Cab attached below. It didn't really seem to work that well though. You can try it if you like but I recommend inputting the data settings manually.
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Just in case you might still be a little lost, here's the link to get all the settings you need.
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That actually didn't help because T-Mobile doesn't support the AT&T Fuze. Thanks for trying though bro.
do a search for tmobyjoe cabs there are a few different cabs you can use to set up data depending on wich data plan you have
use the this link:
http://tmobileuspublic.wdsglobal.com/
and select the wing for data and mms. It will work fine
Come on.. is it REALLY all that hard guys ? The AT&T Fuze is no different than any other Windows Mobile device that TMobile supports. Your options are simple... Call TMobile, tell them you have a "Wing" or any other touchscreen PPC they might sell and have them walk you through the settings. OR, add a new connection yourself and input "wap.voicestream.com" as the access point. Simple as that. ORRRR, use the attached cab.... LOL
A little late, but better than never.
The above CAB and the previous TmoByJoe CABs still point to the old wap.voicestream.com APN that requires the 216.155.165.50:8080 proxy which only supports HTTP requests. This has been replaced in favor of the epc.tmobile.com APN which does not require a proxy and therefore supports many more protocols/apps (FTP, VPN, Remote Desktop, IM clients, TF3d weather, etc).
Start > Settings > Connections > Connections > Advanced > Select Networks > Edit your Tmobile connection or create a New connection > Edit or New Modem with APN epc.tmobile.com, no user/pass/domain, no proxy.
The epc.tmobile.com APN may not be accessible in all areas yet, so if you're having trouble connecting to it you may need to stay with the old wap.voicestream.com APN for the time being.
First you might wanna flash to the Rapheal stock ROM(Use the Wiki to find it), Then use the auto connection setup inside the connections tab of settings. Once you do the auto connection setup go into connections (inside the connections tab) go to mangae connections, you should see t-mobile data as the name, but go to edit and leave the name as t-mobile data click next and change from wap...whatever to
(internet2.voicestream.com) Next all you have to do is add the $24.99 unlimited data package through the unsupported handset customer service. tell them you already changed the settings already so you can be ready to go. but it can take up to 48 or 72 hours to be fully activated. trust me im using t-mobile data right now.
do not use the method above my post from fhsieh, that is not the right info. use my method as it is from t-mobile directly.
the info above your post is correct and will work! the epc.tmobile.com settings are mostly used by people with tzones 5.99 plan to get full internet but will also work with unlimited data plan.
i have been with t-mobile for a long time now and for the unlimted data internet2.voicestream.com is the correct access point name. maybe for the t-zones lol you can use what u said. And i just changed my settings and could not access the web from using epc.tmobile.com.
Internet and internet2.voicestream.com as well as epc have all been very unreliable to me. It's the reason I still use wap.voicestream.com It works very well with my unlimited plan and it works the 5.99 Tzones option if you also put in the proxy details.
I am using the $5.99 tzones plan and the epc.tmobile.com APN works very well for me, I have had absolutely no connection problems and all of my programs work without having to go through the HTTP proxy. Again I mentioned that it's not going to work in all areas, but if it happens to work in your area there is a general agreement that it is better than the old wap.voicestream.com APN, as it gives you essentially the same features as the Total Internet plan (no hard bandwidth limit) at reduced cost.
Only testing will tell which APN works best for you, but this way at least you know about the three APNs that Tmobile uses.
All three of us have given good trouble shooting info..sorry for the bashing in my other posts. has this info helped the kid.
Ok, i talked to tmobile and the maximum limit of data usage on the $5.99 T-Zones is 50 Megabytes. Is this true? Does this mean I can't tether without being charged? or are they just saying that so that you don't over use it?
(I mean for godsakes its EDGE, it's already so slow, it should be free)