As i looked and read on the forum, it becomes pretty clear to me that most of
the trouble with good roms are related to bad flashing..
So i thought i put some words together to help you folks out here.
This is for a G3 device !
Things u need:
- button rom v1 for G3 device
- lokiwiz 1.2b
- XP computer
- free USB port (none other stuff attached and not on a hub or G15 keyboard)
- MDA Vario / HTC Wizard
If this is your first flash of the device and you have a CID locked one :
- remove any attached hardware like GPS, SD cards, headset
- download button rom
CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
and install this on your device.
- install it again (yes, again).
- hardreset the device (goto settingsmenu and wipe storage or press 2 button and reset )
- check both the ipl/spl has version of 1.05
- attach to computer and press cancel at the device setup from activesync
- run the CID unlock tool to remove all locks here (press U)
- run it again and press C to supercid unlock
- hardreset the device
- it should now be totally unlocked and working fine.
- install t-mobile US rom v2.26
- note the IPL/SPL should change both into 2.26 otherwise u did not unlock it good and should start over at the beginning.
- hardreset the device
- if u like install IPL/SPL 3.08 for WM6 (this installs bootloader stuff) (see mrfrazz and my opinion on this)
- install radio rom 2.19 for cincular or 2.69.11 for WM6
- install any custom rom preferably faria's as this guy really knows what he is doing
If this is your Xth flash and you know what ur doing:
- remove sd-card and headset and stuff from phone
- flash t-mobile 2.26 US rom
- hardreset
- flash new IPL/SPL
- flash Radio rom
- flash new OS rom
- hardreset
this procedure eliminates nearly all common errors find with upgrading roms.
additional info:
when your in the misfortune of having this rom flashing gone bad... (and it is a G3 device)
because of:
- your computer crashed
- rom flash hangs for longer then 10 minutes
- rom flash stopped suddenly
- something like this
do NOT turn off the device nor remove battery.
reset the device with styluspen in the side of it (you know where it is )
it should come back with the 3 colored page and now you can just re-do the rom flash
when it doesnt: pull battery and start device it will come up with 3 color screen
one more option is to hold the commmanager button and then reset the device
Overall, good advise, but I'm not sure saying you have to upgrade to IPL/SPL 3.08 is required. I've been leary about moving to it myself (I'm not one that feels they have to be on the highest version numbers, as that burned me doing that with Radio ROMs.)
I do agree that doing hardresets in the process may seem like overkill but I've seen it clear issues on devices. And flashing back to an official release before upgrading a custom rom is something I always do (and I've never seen battery drain issues like people describe) as it redoes the extended rom and all and gives you a clean base to work off of.
your right my friend...
the IPL/SPL 3.08 is good for WM6 roms as it adds some functionality.
first time running it will be slow as it needs to setup some stuff i think.
after a hardreset and setting up the device it works pretty fast.
the radio 2.69.11 faria version works fine here in netherlands on t-mobile allthough its faster it doesnt have that good reception as 2.25 mobile has.
the main advantage of this radio 2.69.11 is that i can do gprs and phone
simultanious where as this original rom sucks on the switching part and doing
multiple things at once. hence i recommend having radio 2.19 for most compatibility.. together with 2.26 IPL/SPL
hardresets are needed to get rid of old files and settings which can be old and not working anymore and it wipes the optional rom areas and caches.
the flashing of the t-mobile rom 2.26 is merely to reset all pointers and caches in the device as this rom is official and fills IPl/SPL, rom area, ext rom area, so it will be in a working non-error state.
battery drainage is due to ext-rom being corrupted and also programs that running in the background... suggest to use HTC X-button and set it to: enable X to end programs and end programs by tap and hold X (live messenger closes totaly and logs you out , as well as skype when u close immediatly)
to answer the question of IPL/SPL... i suggest u use 2.26 for WM5 roms
and 3.08 for WM6 proffesional
its like a bios for mobile device... so it has same procedure as with pc bios
unless u have a hard-error that requires it, i would leave it alone...
and some bios update have nice extra functions... u can choose to have em
or are in need of it coz the operating system WM6 needs it..
G4
So when will there be an ipls/spl in the 3.XX range for a G4 wizard?
well i have no clue
the way i see it this G3 and G4 device are the same model and build
the only difference in it is the bootloader
so i seriously wonder if one can just put a G3 loader on this G4 device
as for now i dont know the exact difference.. if this is hardware related u
need a different bootloader for G4
if it is software related it should be working on both devices.
for now i dont have a clue what is so different about the G4 version
the only thing i see is the IPL/SPL which would say to me that it might be
the case that this G4 has different hardware pointers.
u be fine with 2.26 IPL/SPL on this G4
untill we have clear what this difference is, i wouldn't mess around with it
..unlocked or not , as it can render the device useless...
Related
So I been trying to upgrade my OS to the tnt 1437, however every time I try my old OS keeps popping up (OS: 5.1.xxx (Build 15671FARIA.3.5)) ... so for the last 3 days I been trying to search this site for any answers, however all I get is that only happens if the CID is locked, but my phone isn't 1) I unlocked it before to upgrade it in the first place to the above mentioned OS and 2) I checked its status with the Wizard Service Tool (which is AWESOME). So i'm at a lose here as to why every time I either upgrade or downgrade the ROM the same OS keeps showing up. BTW Everything else I can upgrade except the OS. Any help is appreciated. thanks!
Anyone? Anything?
Did you remember what version of IPL and SPL when you unlock your Wizard? It is only unlockable when IPL and SPL is 1.xx (i.e. Downgrade to Button's ROM first). You may post your WST log here for more chance to know what the problem is.
Here you go here is the log:
Wizard Service Tool v4.2.1
12/11/07 23:07:22
CPU Manuf. FAILED
MODEL: Wizard
=> Bootloaders:
IPL: 1.01 (G3 device)
Built on Sep 19 2005 at 18:00:32
Copyright (c) 2003 High Tech Computer Corporation
Getting more info...
=> Firmware:
OS: 5.1.xxx (Build 15671FARIA.3.5)
ROM: 3.8
Registry AKU: FARIA.3.5
Radio values FAILED
=>Extended_ROM:
Version: faria V4.0
Name: Extended_ROM
Status: hidden
Getting drives,disks and partitions info...
=> Drives and partitions:
|--Handle--|---Size---|
6e9d5352 - 9.99M (0x9fd800)
eea9813a - 48.23M (0x303c000)
2fb23f92 - 50.95M (0x32f4000)
efb23f3e - 2.94M (0x2f0000)
cfb23fb6 - 3.06M (0x30fc00)
All Done.
Did you flash back to the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before you tried to flash to another custom ROM?
kegobeer said:
Did you flash back to the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM before you tried to flash to another custom ROM?
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Yes I tried both the button ROM and the love ROM with no change ... On another note I can change the IPL and the SPL with no trouble however the OS always stays the same.
Not the love or button - the original carrier ROM, either T-Mobile or Cingular.
Have you tried doing a hard reset, and then flash to the T-Mobile ROM from a different computer?
kegobeer said:
Not the love or button - the original carrier ROM, either T-Mobile or Cingular.
Have you tried doing a hard reset, and then flash to the T-Mobile ROM from a different computer?
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I just tried what you mentioned however I got the following error when I was doing the ROM update .... fyi I got it from the tmobile site ... when I ran the rom update I got:
error [326]: invalid command
this nbf file cannot be used for your pda phone. please check your nbf file.
It looks like you originally skipped the 2.26 rom. I did the same thing the first time I flashed a rom. Try flashing back down to the Button rom, then to the 2.26, then the tnt 1437. It worked for me.
Am I doing something wrong here cause every time I try some downgrade its always the same OS that shows up ... 3.3.0.0 that NEVER changes, everything else does.
i have the same problem..
8125hacker said:
i have the same problem..
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What OS does your phone boot with?
bad flash rom, you need junk the phone or donate to XDA-developers
first take out the sd card.then flash your phone with buttons 1.0 rom.hardreset. then flash it again with buttons rom. unlock the device totaly with the unlock software. hardreset. flash with original t-mobile us 2.26 rom
halfway above 80% pull the usb plug. the phone get stuck and the update program will tell you it doesnt respond. reset the phone (little hole on the side) you will see the 3 color screen . now restart the 2.26 update and when
you get at the part that it starts looking for the phone connect it. sometimes
it just works , sometimes you need to try a few times.. it wont ruin the phone
as i had this many times due to a crashing computer. wjen its done do a hardreset and install the rom you wanted.
hope this helps you guys
da_jojo said:
first take out the sd card.then flash your phone with buttons 1.0 rom.hardreset. then flash it again with buttons rom. unlock the device totaly with the unlock software. hardreset. flash with original t-mobile us 2.26 rom
halfway above 80% pull the usb plug. the phone get stuck and the update program will tell you it doesnt respond. reset the phone (little hole on the side) you will see the 3 color screen . now restart the 2.26 update and when
you get at the part that it starts looking for the phone connect it. sometimes
it just works , sometimes you need to try a few times.. it wont ruin the phone
as i had this many times due to a crashing computer. wjen its done do a hardreset and install the rom you wanted.
hope this helps you guys
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Out of curiosity when I downgrade to any of these roms am I looking for the OS to downgrade or just the IPL/SPL?
cgigate said:
bad flash rom, you need junk the phone or donate to XDA-developers
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how is it a bad flash rom if the IPL/SPL and GSM all change everytime i change roms. The only thing that doesn't is the OS.
Ok...this is what I have...I have a G3 Wizard and my husband has a G4 Wizard. I have managed to unlock SIMS and CID unlock both our phones. I have managed to put new roms on both phones. I went with safe clean roms and now I want roms with more "bells and whisles". My problem is I can't figure out when looking at all the roms out there which one is a G3 or G4 (mainly G4). I was able to tell with my first G4 because it clearly stated "only OS and splash". As I read through all this there are two extensions a .nbh and a .nbf. The .nbf seems to be for the G4 phones. I realize the G3 has much more roms out there but if a rom doesn't state "OS and Splash Only" or "Ok for G4" how does one tell?
Here is my list of Roms (took a while to download):
Ryncppr v5 (downloading now, not sure)
Artemis Touch 4.02 (nk.nbh)
Dutty's Diamond V1 (nk.nbh)
ConfusedStu Mobile Vista 1.3 (nk.nbh)
WM6.1 Diamond "clean" - This is G4 (nk.nbf)
WM6.1 SNN Diamond 3.1- This is G4 (nk.nbf)
WM6.1 SNN Diamond 6.1 - This is G4 (nk.nbf)
Now reading more into this forum, it has been said that the newer wm6 and 6.1 roms are being created to be safe with both G3 and G4 but I have not found that to be true.
Could we start of list of what roms are G3, G4 or safe for both? I think this would help all of us who are so excited to unlock, SIM/CID their phones and now aren't quite sure of what roms we could switch in and out to.
Thanks!
p.s. G4 phone stuck on white screen of death. Tried all master resets, to no availe.
kfletch said:
Ok...this is what I have...I have a G3 Wizard and my husband has a G4 Wizard. I have managed to unlock SIMS and CID unlock both our phones. I have managed to put new roms on both phones. I went with safe clean roms and now I want roms with more "bells and whisles". My problem is I can't figure out when looking at all the roms out there which one is a G3 or G4 (mainly G4). I was able to tell with my first G4 because it clearly stated "only OS and splash". As I read through all this there are two extensions a .nbh and a .nbf. The .nbf seems to be for the G4 phones. I realize the G3 has much more roms out there but if a rom doesn't state "OS and Splash Only" or "Ok for G4" how does one tell?
Here is my list of Roms (took a while to download):
Ryncppr v5 (downloading now, not sure)
Artemis Touch 4.02 (nk.nbh)
Dutty's Diamond V1 (nk.nbh)
ConfusedStu Mobile Vista 1.3 (nk.nbh)
WM6.1 Diamond "clean" - This is G4 (nk.nbf)
WM6.1 SNN Diamond 3.1- This is G4 (nk.nbf)
WM6.1 SNN Diamond 6.1 - This is G4 (nk.nbf)
Now reading more into this forum, it has been said that the newer wm6 and 6.1 roms are being created to be safe with both G3 and G4 but I have not found that to be true.
Could we start of list of what roms are G3, G4 or safe for both? I think this would help all of us who are so excited to unlock, SIM/CID their phones and now aren't quite sure of what roms we could switch in and out to.
Thanks!
p.s. G4 phone stuck on white screen of death. Tried all master resets, to no availe.
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All latest wm6 wm6.1 custom build roms are safe for both G3 and G4 versions,they Don't have any IPL/SPL included in them,read the Rom threads and instructions posted there carefully,you have all your answers there.Now no specific G3 or G4 roms are build seperately.Just to give you a couple of examples,check this out:-
[13/May] TNT.19213 Series (Vanilla/Official/Professional) UC **NEWEST**
General Notes: (Please Read before updating)
-Remove SD card while updating.
- the two bluetooth icons on the tray launch, you can open their menus by double click or click and hold.
- Before asking, give us your edition (professional or TouchFLO...)
- if your rom has PIMBackup older than 2.5, install PIMBackup 2.5 and do the backup via it.
- SMSDrFix not activated, you have to open it to replace the numbers with their contact name on messages.
- If you open Advanced Config, the battery icon on the tray launch will disappear, you have to restore it using Advanced Config.
- There is no IPL, SPL, ... JUST OS and splashes, so i think its safe for G4 users.
- Radio 2.19.11 UK more stable and fewest issues and no missed calls.
- You MUST have an IPL and SPL at 2.xx or higher (BOTH not just one or the other).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391927
SNN Edition Version 3.1
Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM
[Stylus.Not.Needed]
UC CAPABLE ROM
Final Note:
I accept no responsibility for any damages that maybe done onto your phone by using/attemping to use this ROM. This ROM has been flashed succesfully onto my CID & SIM locked G4 using SoftSPL.The nk.nbf file only contains OS and splash screens. No IPL/SPL. So it is G4 safe. Please read the "READ ME" file included in flashing tools. If you are new to flashing I strongly recommend reading the stickies in regards to flashing a new rom onto your device in order to avoid any damages.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386668
There's no need to list separate Roms for G3 or G4,coz there are none specific for each device !!! Even official carrier roms are build with containing IPL/SPL for both the devices in a single package.Roms are the same for both G3 and G4,only upgrading procedure is different for both.
Cheers!
I was hoping you would be the one to respond to my need for help. Maybe my problem is, I have been reading too much? Crazy huh?
Thank you very much.
Kim
LOL
Thanz ! Have fun
Hello all,
I am in crisis situation.
I purchased the touch cruise (polaris) from authorised dealer in the middle east (my polaris is middle east version) came with wm6 SPL 1.28.000. ROM 0.0.415.2 (sorry I had saved the details in one of the files but I guess it got deleted. so I dont remember which ROM version I had)
I wanted to test the diamond TF3d style, so I upgraded. below is the steps I took
1. Hard spl - v2
2. downloaded _HTC Touch Cruise_RUU_Polaris_HTC_WWE_3.13.405.0_radio_sign_25.85.30.07_1.59.42.15_Ship.exe
3. installed the same.
4. Installed HTC-CA-Polaris drivers and TF3d.
5. I read somewhere that it works slow and need to upgrade Radio to 1.59.42.23. I did that.
but now my GPS is not working with Garmin also tried TOm TOM which is installed by the WM6.1 upgrade, no luck even the phone is too slow
I want to revert to the original version. please help me find the ROM download and steps to downgrade to original. I can downgrade the SPL to original but need to have the ROM first bcos I dont want my phone to be total dead.
need urgent attention from the experts.
thanks in advance
Niranjan
In my experience downgrading radio is bad thing to do.
When I did it, my signal has weakened radically, and I lost WiFi stability and almost lost BT.
However, hardware was not damaged, so I have normal reception after turning back to the official WM 6.1. So I guess you will need to hack your device again, or wait for newer ROM...
Oh, yeah... I never did hard-SPL...
Hey guys, about 10 minutes ago, i noticed that the start button for my phone acted weirdly. It is appearing and dissappearing as if someone is touching it, but the phone is flat on the ground. My fingers are not touching the screen yet the phone is acting as if someone is pressing the screen. After reseeting it, the touch screen went dead. I can navigate with the dpad but not when i press the screen. So i believe it is time for me to send the phone for warranty.
I am from Malaysia by the way.
MY phone is currently flashed (hard-spl) and am running on Topaz Rom. I have also installed the custom boot screen (bios) made available here by a forumer via hard-spl.
My question is, how do i remove the hard-spl and the boot screen that is flashed by hard-spl?
Also how do i remove everything so the phone will qualify to receive the warranty?
I do have the stock ROM but i believe i need to do more than just re-flashing the phone with a stock ROM to claim warranty.
well flashing the stock rom should be the first step. then you have to find the original SPL. someone on here will help you with that, I'm sure.
ok here is what i did when i sent my phone in for HTC warranty in the US:
1) Flash stock radio or any latest radio from your area (if you remember the number of the radio that came with your phone find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=439566
2) Then flash the stock ROM.
3) Then flash the stock SPL (Find your here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499791 then follow instruction bottom of first post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410150
Then check to make sure you have the right radio and go into boot loader to check spl
Thanks for the suggestion jaszek.
And Thank you very much ptyindian for providing the steps , which is quite easy to read.
About the radio, i don't think i have to flash the radio since the official latest ROM that comes from HTC's site already contains a Radio. So i am safe here right?
About the stock SPL, i am not sure which is mine. As i am from Asia (Malaysia) , which one should i get?
1) SPL 5.05 - Extracted from Official HTC ROM (WWE)
or
2)Extracted from Official HTC ROM - Southeast Asia - Sintel-English
. Also , what is the difference between the above 2 and this one :-StockSPL_ForWarrantyOnly_SPL190_1.zip
Yes if you installed the latest rom that was release by HTC and it has a radio included then you are safe about the SPL i am not sure which one you need to flash but i think the spl1.90 was what came with the ATT fuze i think or atleast that is what i had. Maybe some one else can help you more with the exact details on which SPL you need or you can post in the SPL thread and see if some one helps you.
I was reading the Wiki/FAQ and found this thread and still have some questions on the ROM Radio configuration.
I have a tilt I got from work and the reception is attrocious, so I am under the impression that the ATT ROM and Radio have more affinity for the ATT network than Tmobile (which is my guess because my old Wing had much better signal). What I notice from the list of Kaiser ROMs (on the Wiki) is the only official Tmobile ROMs are for the Netherlands and the UK. My guess is that I wouldn't want to load those since I live in the US, plus the official OS build is 19124 in the ATT tilt instead of 19212 in the other builds.
My question is: Can I mix other Radios to better work on the Tmobile network? Do I need to clear my ROM from the official ATT to another HTC ROM? Does the ROM clear the Windows build so there wouldn't be a compatibility issue, or does it only work for the cell phone service (device communication portion sort of like a DOS on windows 98) and therefore the OS build is independant of the ROM and Radio? Do ROMs and Radios need to be properly paired or can I trial and error it?
I've been looking for some of the answers but the weren't overly appearant from the FAQ and Wikis. Hopefully I didn't gloss over the easy answers somewhere on the site.
Any thoughts? I can start doing the trial and error method, but if I can get some confirmation that I won't brick my phone that would be awesome. Also, if there is any general "method to the madness" in terms of trying the Radios out, I would appreciate it.
This is where you should start:
Flashing Your First Kaiser Rom
The most important consideration for flashing any phone: MAKE SURE YOU HARD SPL (if you are using a Tilt, I recommend 3.56 as that is what AT&T officially used in their last ROM). That way, if you screw up a flash, you can just flash to another radio/ROM without worrying about bricking your phone. Press the Camera+Power button+use your stylus to reset the phone to bootloader to see if your phone is already Hard SPL'd. You should see a 3.28, 3.29, 3.34, or 3.56 at the top left of the screen when the tricolor screen pops up; you can just reset your phone after looking to get back to your OS). If, and only if, your phone is Hard SPL'd, read on...
>Can I mix other Radios to better work on the Tmobile network?
Of course. For example, I am using the emobile radio (1.71.09.01) on my Tilt. See: The Ultimate Radio Thread for more.
>Do I need to clear my ROM from the official ATT to another HTC ROM?
No, you can flash the radio only if you want.
>Does the ROM clear the Windows build
Not if you're flashing just the radio.
>...and therefore the OS build is independant of the ROM and Radio?
The OS build is independent of the radio. Best to think of the ROM as the OS, and the radio as how your OS communicates with your phone...
>or can I trial and error it?
That's the whole point of flashing just the radio--finding which one works best for you.
Thank you for the information. I verified the Hard SPL (3.56) so it looks like I am good on that front.
I just want to verify something you said before I actually do this (since the RUU tutorial told me ROMs can brick my phone and you mentioned Radios are similar in that fashion). The radios listed from the Ultimate ROM/Radio Thread are listed by WMx.x version, not by the associated ROMs. Since I am using the officially released ROM from ATT my version of WM is 6.1, therefore any of the Radios under the 6.1 header are available for flashing to my phone.
Is that correct?
Thanks again and in advance.
Anyone know of a new link for the latest Hard SPL 3.56? I keep on trying to download on rapidshare and I am denied (cause I am a non-subscriber). If there is a mirror that anyone knows of I would appreciate it. I keep searching around and cannot find one.
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Anyone know of a new link for the latest Hard SPL 3.56? I keep on trying to download on rapidshare and I am denied (cause I am a non-subscriber). If there is a mirror that anyone knows of I would appreciate it. I keep searching around and cannot find one.
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I just DL this and uploaded it for you 3.56
Zelendel you are awesome. Thank you very much.