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Hi guys, I am a new on ths forum and with te prophet. After using a hima for 3 years, I bought a prophet today. Since I was at wm2005 aku 3.5 with my hima, I cannot use my pim.vol any more with my current rom version, which is
Rom version 2.9.7.24 WWE
Rom date 2/9/2006
Radio 02.07.20
Protocol 413.1.03
Extrom 2.9.7.106
This is all new for me and I am hoping that someone could post me or PM me some advice on newer roms and how to upgrade. I also found a version with G3 or G4. What is the difference and what do I need to use.
This device works different, but it look very nice.
Can I re-use some of my old (hima) applications on this machine?
Thanks very much in advance. I hope to have as much pleasure on this forum as I had on the hima forum!

1. you can get some of the old apps working on wm5 devices, but not all of them.
2. check your device for G3-G4 issue here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=prophet_g3g4_how
3. good thing if you have time to read this: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet
it will answer most of your questions on how to upgrade your ROM. read it three or four times: i'm not kidding - you may ruin your device if you miss something.

If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device? cause it seems kinda pointless to have to CID unlock the device (which involves FLASHING a completely new rom, overwriting the old), to open the backup feature at which point is useless since we've lost the original rom.

mr_yellow said:
If I can hijack this thread for a second... is there any way to backup whatever ROM we have on a CID locked device?
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Rom_Dump
why not? just download your original ROM from this site or official site of qtek, jamin or whatever your device is.
afaik you CID unlock the device to be able to flash different ROMs (for example, to flash jamin with qtek ROM) and to be able to return back to your original ROM.

After upgrade to TNT 4.0, i still use wm5. Add 1 question.

This is the new question I want to ask. (13 Aug 4.37pm London)
As mentioned in the Wizzard-wiki, there is no free way to unlock G4.
BUT !!!!! today, I just did an update (look at my signature). First of all flash the Radio and ExtRom. Then use aWizzard, enable Rapi (e),
UNLOCK CID (u) and last write new OS (w).
In the Unlock CID phase, I finally get something like "your device is successfully CID unlocked" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! does this mean that my G4 is unlocked and is it the same as we pay 20 pounds to use IMEI number to lock the CID (as mentioned in wiki)??????????????????????????????
The following is the original post.
I am using a CID locked O2 XDA Mini S. It took me about 6 minute to upgrade to TNT4.0, but after that the device rebooted. And then the old wm5 shows up...... (2.21.4.1)
what's going on here?????????????

Please read the wiki before you ask questions.

jacknjill said:
Please read the wiki before you ask questions.
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Hey, thanks for the reply. Maybe sorry for this naive question.
But I have been reading the wiki many times. Being a foreigner, I don't quite understand many terms and abbreviations in the wiki. After reading the describtion from the TNT 4.0, i know that it is safe to flash it to my O2 MiniS.
But I still don't know why it doesn't work. Here i want to ask 2 questions.
I have read the "how to flash ANY rom to a CID Locked device". 1 question I want to ask is that Any rom includes a rom like TNT4.0, right? I.E. I can flash TNT to my CID locked O2 MiniS, right?
2nd question is that, I noticed that many posts mentioned that they will need an official rom as the base. Where can I find any Official roms for the MiniS. are the following 3 the ONLY OFFICIAL roms for O2 Mini S? I apprecaite any help. Thank you.
O2 WWE OP ID 1.5.4.02 1.10.00 1.12.10 Download Thread
O2 Launch ROM WWE OP ID 1.5.4.02 1.10.00 1.12.10 Download ?Thread
O2 WWE WWE OP ID 2.21.4 2.21 2.07.10 Download Thread

wildcolor said:
Hey, thanks for the reply. Maybe sorry for this naive question.
But I have been reading the wiki many times. Being a foreigner, I don't quite understand many terms and abbreviations in the wiki. After reading the describtion from the TNT 4.0, i know that it is safe to flash it to my O2 MiniS.
But I still don't know why it doesn't work. Here i want to ask 2 questions.
I have read the "how to flash ANY rom to a CID Locked device". 1 question I want to ask is that Any rom includes a rom like TNT4.0, right? I.E. I can flash TNT to my CID locked O2 MiniS, right?
2nd question is that, I noticed that many posts mentioned that they will need an official rom as the base. Where can I find any Official roms for the MiniS. are the following 3 the ONLY OFFICIAL roms for O2 Mini S? I apprecaite any help. Thank you.
O2 WWE OP ID 1.5.4.02 1.10.00 1.12.10 Download Thread
O2 Launch ROM WWE OP ID 1.5.4.02 1.10.00 1.12.10 Download ?Thread
O2 WWE WWE OP ID 2.21.4 2.21 2.07.10 Download Thread
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You need to use the shell tool to flash to a G4 CID locked device - follow the instructions.

dleeming said:
You need to use the shell tool to flash to a G4 CID locked device - follow the instructions.
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Does that mean that I can flash any rom to use the shell tool, like I can flash TNT4.0 or Faria etc. ?

The answer to EVERY Question and problem you are having is:
Unlock CID your device!
For Crist sake!
You CAN NOOOOOOOOOT put any rom in your device until you have done that, and no matter whatever anyone else says , just do it, and your problems will go away...
Some poeple just dont do what the instructions tell you to do, and then fill the forum with repeated issues...

t2t said:
The answer to EVERY Question and problem you are having is:
Unlock CID your device!
For Crist sake!
You CAN NOOOOOOOOOT put any rom in your device until you have done that, and no matter whatever anyone else says , just do it, and your problems will go away...
Some poeple just dont do what the instructions tell you to do, and then fill the forum with repeated issues...
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Man, you scaried me. But there is a post saying that I can flash any rom without CID Unlock, right? Just don't have money to do the cid unlock.

dleeming is right.
According to your signature you have got a G4 model. Follow the instructions in the stickies about upgrade of a G4 model.....

Huckleberry88 said:
dleeming is right.
According to your signature you have got a G4 model. Follow the instructions in the stickies about upgrade of a G4 model.....
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Understand.
I just want to make sure that in theory I can flash to any roms according to thread "how to flash any rom with a cid locked"

As most of these ROM do not incl. IPL/SPL or the radio you may want to check whether your IPL/SPL and radio version work with the respective ROMs first.
If I remember correctly they require 2.x or higher IPL/SPL. But, check for yourself.

BTW what kind of Chinese support you are referring to?

The best I've used for Chinese support is CE-star specially made for WM6 release from the ppda forums. Penpower works like the transcriber for Chinese.
Monster Chinese, I have never gotten to work correctly. You can't uninstall it too.

jacknjill said:
The best I've used for Chinese support is CE-star specially made for WM6 release from the ppda forums. Penpower works like the transcriber for Chinese.
Monster Chinese, I have never gotten to work correctly. You can't uninstall it too.
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thats interesting. What do you mean by "ppda forums"?
Some users seem to have no probs with Monster:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314159&page=2
sorry for the OT...

Huckleberry88 said:
As most of these ROM do not incl. IPL/SPL or the radio you may want to check whether your IPL/SPL and radio version work with the respective ROMs first.
If I remember correctly they require 2.x or higher IPL/SPL. But, check for yourself.
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Thanks mate. Now I've got my new signature. I can show this off to myself now hahahahaha

I forgot the name of the forum, but you can do a search on Leies edition of CE-star.

Idealy, I want to use the English OS system but with full Chinese support. e.g. I can install Chinese software, browse Chinese web-site etc.
But just now, I flashed a Chinese OS system. Quit happy with it now, though maybe later I will try to find a way to fullfill my ideal system above.

jacknjill said:
I forgot the name of the forum, but you can do a search on Leies edition of CE-star.
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I see. thanks.

wildcolor said:
Idealy, I want to use the English OS system but with full Chinese support. e.g. I can install Chinese software, browse Chinese web-site etc.
But just now, I flashed a Chinese OS system. Quit happy with it now, though maybe later I will try to find a way to fullfill my ideal system above.
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If you don't need to enter Chinese characters but just have your Wizard to show them, the easiest way would be to install a cab with the Chinese font set.
The cab is somewhere here on the forum...

Huckleberry88 said:
If you don't need to enter Chinese characters but just have your Wizard to show them, the easiest way would be to install a cab with the Chinese font set.
The cab is somewhere here on the forum...
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Are you sure? I think this thing works similar as PC. Not only we need the font, but the encoding thing (like uni-code or something). Personally, I don't think your suggestion will work. If you find such thread, please do show it to me. It will be highly appreciated
Cheers

I am using it that way. Haven't check Chinese websites but chinese SMS and the menu of the SIM card are shown in HanZi.
check for the fontpatch.cab
or start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=237858&page=4&highlight=fontpatch
especially post no. 39
Cheers!

just a little help after 2.21.olip

hey guys,
after using hard_SPL-G4.exe
i made my SPL to 2.21.olip
what i have to do next? can i install a wm6 now perhaps Jaguar?
or what i have to do now? when i try BlackDiamond 3.1 Touch.rar i get error 300 invalid update tool and other wm6 dont work too...
plz help...
i have a MDA VARIO FROM T-online

If you read and understood the HardSPL thread in the G4 forum, you shouldn't be asking this. That thread is clear (IMO) how HardSPL works.
But put simply, yes, if you have HardSPL installed, then you can flash a custom rom like Jaguar or somesuch on your G4 just like the G3 users do. But you need to understand that you may have to switch the RUU that is used (again, that is discussed in the HardSPL thread in the G4 forum).
Please read and understand the HardSPL thread though before you wind up bricking your device.

u need to find the ruu mun file its laying around in the g4 forum im using a g4 myself so i have dealt with the process involved so if any questions just pm me or ask away in the g4 forum

Flashing a ROM WM6.1

Hi, i'm from Brazil and i have an HTC kaiser (Ow! really?). I trying discover the version of my RADIO to flash de right vervion of WM6.1. How can i do this? My phone have HARDSPL, UNLOCKED, CID UNLOCKED ready (I bought well)
Sorry about my english!
Tks a lot.

When you First Turn on your Phone and you see the Red Letters. R G and B Look for what it say next to R. That is your Radio Version.

Follow the above instructions. But please be sure to read the Wiki and ROM flashing threads before upgrading to WM 6.1. The process is not difficult, but you need to read.

Flashing an AT&T tilt with an Official HTC Rom

Hello,
I have recently bought a AT&T Tilt, and would like to flash to the current Offcial HTC WM 6.1 ROM.
I have done alot of reading in the wiki here and various FAQ threads and what not. But i am still a bit confused with a few things.
I have read the ROM Flashing faq and Intro here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=356895
And i understand all that.
I also undestand that i need the Key board fix from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911
But thats not hard.
I went here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
I checked my device and the rom currently on it is the AT&T WM6.0 1.57.502.2 Original Shiped Rom.
I figured, being in Australia, i would need rom that had WWE as the country? So i downloaded the "RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship" rom. Is this an appropriete ROM for what i want?
BUT Its all this stuff about SPL's and what not that is confusing me.
My Tilt is SIM unlocked because i am using it on the Telstra network here in Australia. But im not sure if i have to change SPL's or not and if so, which spl i need and how to change it?
It would be greatly appreciated if someone was able to help me understand this SPL bussiness, because i really dont want to dive straight in a risk my device. I have done a fair bit of reading and i'm a fairly competent computer user so it won't take me long to learn.
Thanks in advance,
eMiller

you have to CID unlock it. this involves flashing the device with HardSPL then running a unlocker program. (this is what i know from Hermes, so i don't know if it is exactly the same on Tilt). It breaks the warranty though, so think first, then jump
by the way, you should try a cooked rom. in my experience, HTC roms are not that good, except for getting a stable radio. get the radio, then get a new OS rom, like hang.tuah or something.

warsng said:
you have to CID unlock it. this involves flashing the device with HardSPL then running a unlocker program.
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Ok thanks. Can someone please recomend the best hardSPL and unlocker program for my needs. What do other people with Tilts recomend?

here you go
eMiller12 said:
Ok thanks. Can someone please recomend the best hardSPL and unlocker program for my needs. What do other people with Tilts recomend?
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Try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Look for the Zip file at the very bottom of the screen this hard spl will let you flash any rom (follow the instructions the spl gives you exactly and dont get nervous if it appears stiuck for a bit), just make sure you know which ROM you really want to flash at the end
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Again same stuff.
Guys, when you gonna learn to read everything which is realted to your device when you want to do something?
Everything is in Wiki, everything you need is posted in ROM threads.
Come on GUYS!

read the f**** wiki. you need hardspl. its not that hard to figure out if your not an imbisel

@joel2009: That is a little harsh. Also, if you're going to call someone an imbecile, you should probably spell it right.
@eMiller12 (fellow noob): I don't know if I would bother with the HTC ROM, I just flashed it and I am finding a few really annoying bugs... Read Jocky's STICKY post about the HardSPLs to learn how to flash one. It really is quite simple--and it's unlikely that you're going to brick your device, so no worries.

Hey FireMedic, thanks for understanding.
I have read through the Wiki a fair bit, i was just unsure which versions of hardSPL etc where best for the [email protected] Tilt inparicular. But i will just use this one that vorostatz recomended if that is the best one for the tilt.

joel2009 said:
read the f**** wiki. you need hardspl. its not that hard to figure out if your not an imbisel
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We are not all senior members. I can fully understand the guys wish not to turn his expensive device into a paperweight. Ease up eh?

search forums using google (at top right)
yeah, exactly... I was pretty scared to hardspl when I first started.
Hardspl 3.29 seems to be the best one, check my signature after you've read the hardspl sticky.
From what I understand, a rom flash might try to write a different spl which is obviously bad. hardspl prevents this.
If you ever need to, you can undo it. Kyphur explains in the hardspl sticky how to change them, by running a program named jumpspl 1.56 (on your device) with your sim and sd cards out and then flashing the spl normally.
Just make sure you follow directions for your device and try different roms.
Good luck and feel free to ask questions, even if some of the people here have heard them way too often.

Special ROMs for Australia
eMiller12 said:
I checked my device and the rom currently on it is the AT&T WM6.0 1.57.502.2 Original Shiped Rom.
I figured, being in Australia, i would need rom that had WWE as the country? So i downloaded the "RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_Ship" rom. Is this an appropriete ROM for what i want?
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Actually the WWE (World Wide English) one seems to be used more in Europe and this side of the world. For down-under, they use SEA South East Asia versions. There are issues with ROM compatibility in Australia specifically (at least in the WM 6.0 days) so if you want to know the best official WM 6.0 and 6.1 ROMs, short of searching for what setups Australian xda-dev forum members are using, you could look at the devices on sale in the shops. If you're wanting WM 6.1 just to have the latest and greatest, think again and have a look at the Windows Mobile 6 vs. Windows Mobile 6.1 thread.
***Edit*** Also note that there are two Australian specific ROMs in the WM 6.0 section of the Kaiser HTC ROM wiki