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Duplicate system using SPB Backup or ...?

Lets say I have two G3 version, CID unlocked Wizards. Call them W1 and W2.
I installed WM6 (X-plorer 1.1) and all software I need on one of them (W1). Everything is fine.
W2 is still stock TMobile WM5 device.
1. If I make full SPB Backup image of W1, can I then take that image and install it on W2, making it WM6 device ? If not ....
2. Can I upgrade W2 to be WM6 device and then apply image from W1 ? If not ... what would you suggest.
Basically idea is to make copy of W1 and move it to W2. I dont want to install software and tweaks on both devices
Any suggestions ?

bogdatov said:
Lets say I have two G3 version, CID unlocked Wizards. Call them W1 and W2.
I installed WM6 (X-plorer 1.1) and all software I need on one of them (W1). Everything is fine.
W2 is still stock TMobile WM5 device.
1. If I make full SPB Backup image of W1, can I then take that image and install it on W2, making it WM6 device ? If not ....
2. Can I upgrade W2 to be WM6 device and then apply image from W1 ? If not ... what would you suggest.
Basically idea is to make copy of W1 and move it to W2. I dont want to install software and tweaks on both devices
Any suggestions ?
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I would say, flashing the secound W2 and then restoring the backup of W1 would be the safer way. But for me no backup worked perfectly although it has been the same device with the same OS. Sometime active sync didn´t function anymore - the other time messaging was not able.
Give it a try. When you just flash W2 - you get WM6.
And when restoring is worse - you make a hardreset and install.
It´s hard work but it will work.
Btw - wait on Xplore 2.0 before startin!!

bogdatov said:
Lets say I have two G3 version, CID unlocked Wizards. Call them W1 and W2.
I installed WM6 (X-plorer 1.1) and all software I need on one of them (W1). Everything is fine.
W2 is still stock TMobile WM5 device.
1. If I make full SPB Backup image of W1, can I then take that image and install it on W2, making it WM6 device ? If not ....
2. Can I upgrade W2 to be WM6 device and then apply image from W1 ? If not ... what would you suggest.
Basically idea is to make copy of W1 and move it to W2. I dont want to install software and tweaks on both devices
Any suggestions ?
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I have created a backup of my WM5 using SPB-Backup, then proceeded to load WM6, and ran the backup. Everything seemed to transfer over alright

envmyz said:
I have created a backup of my WM5 using SPB-Backup, then proceeded to load WM6, and ran the backup. Everything seemed to transfer over alright
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So you initially had WM5 and SPB Backup image was for WM5, right ? Then you upgraded to WM6 and then run backup ...
1. did you end up having WM6 or WM5 ?
2. That was on the same device, right ?

envmyz said:
I have created a backup of my WM5 using SPB-Backup, then proceeded to load WM6, and ran the backup. Everything seemed to transfer over alright
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I'm surprised (and question whether) this worked. WM5 and WM6 use different PIM databases. I did something similar the first time I moved to WM6 and found it completely hosed up where outlook couldn't find the database and I couldn't get sms or anything.
From what I've read, and my own experieince, you should not restore a full backup (like from spb backup) from one type of rom to another.
As for the OP question, spb backup (and similar) do not copy the actual rom. So to do this, you'd have to install XPlore 1.1 onto both, configure the one, then backup and restore onto the other. Even then, I'm not sure if thats a great idea, but it should work.

A way to take complete backup?

Hi there,
I have another question today where I did not find any anwer to by searching the forum.
I am now about to give the Dr. Gonzo WM61 ROM a try. However in the unlikely case I do not like it I would like to go back to the original WM60 ROM provided by HTC.
As my current installation is heavily customized, is there any way to save the current installation and put it back if required? I mean with all settings, installed software etc.?
Something which I can easily do on a Windows PC by using software like Trueimage oder Ghost.
Is there a way to achieve this with Windows Mobile somehow?
Many thanks already for your thoughts.
Have a nice day
Andi

You can use Sprite Backup program but it is not recomanded to restore settings from one rom to another...

No problem with using sprite backup if you revert to your original rom.
Just reflash it. Install Sprite backup. Restore your backup and everything should be back as it was before flashing 6.1.
However if you keep 6.1, then you are better to re-install all your applications rather than restoring from the backup, unless you are carefull to only restore things that do not conflict with the new version.

Yes, heed the above advice. If you are WM6.0 and upgrading to 6.1 - make a complete and self-extracting backup using Sprite Backup. If you decide you don't like WM6.1, drop back to your original ROM and you can restore your backup to exactly how it was prior to your upgrade.
You can merge specific data from 6.0 to 6.1 however registry entries will not come over properly - which means all you can really restore are SMS and PIM.

EDIT: Double Post

AndiP said:
Hi there,
I have another question today where I did not find any anwer to by searching the forum.
I am now about to give the Dr. Gonzo WM61 ROM a try. However in the unlikely case I do not like it I would like to go back to the original WM60 ROM provided by HTC.
As my current installation is heavily customized, is there any way to save the current installation and put it back if required? I mean with all settings, installed software etc.?
Something which I can easily do on a Windows PC by using software like Trueimage oder Ghost.
Is there a way to achieve this with Windows Mobile somehow?
Many thanks already for your thoughts.
Have a nice day
Andi
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This can be done by means enabling the r2sd function in the SPL. Unfortunately this is not really user friendly

Many thanks
Hello,
I am overwhelmed of that many answers and just say a big thank you to all who answered.
Will give SpriteBackup a serious try now, maybe also try the "user unfriendly" r2sd function afterwards.
Many many thanks for you, really making this forum a great platform!
BR
Andi

Small problem

Hello,
I just actualizaed my TP to new ROM from qspa: [03-11-2008] Profesjonalny ROM v 3.0 ATT LITE (he prived that on our polish forum) Anyway everything was fine after installing and than I install Sprite Backup to restore all my data. And after rebooting system can't start. It hang ups on black screen with Touch Pro sign and versions of ROM etc.
Do you know what can be the reason? I'm unable to do HR :/ - nothing happen.
EDIT: Sorry guys. I run HR (I had bad procedure) but know I need to restore my data from Sprite Backup *.exe file. How can I do that ?

So your TP is booting correctly again?

Yes. But I can't still recaive my data. Sprite is crushing Is there a software I can recaive data from *.exe file ?

WM 6.5 ROM Expired. Urgent help needed!

Hi Guys,
I am in a serious fix ! I downloaded WM 6.5 ROM from this site about 3 months ago & installed it on my HTC Touch Pro. It worked like a charm...until this Morning. It now says " This concludes the beta test of this software release." etc....I can't connect to my phone via USB(activesync), thus I can't reload any Software onto it. I tried to Hard Reset...but the phone just restarts & goes back to this message...Is there any way of getting a ROM installed on this phone ? Any help will be greatly appreciated !
Thanks~

do you have an sd card if so have you tryed that method ?

Haha, no i don't have an SD card, but i solved my problem. I went to bootlog.. somehow XD. I tried many different methods, but i eventually found one that worked. Then i just Installed a new ROM. Problem solved ^^.

same problem here - would be nice if developers mention that their software expires
will now try to flash new rom too

I have the same issue - I have an Acer neotouch and is now bricked due to expiration of windows. How do I flash another rom or re-load factoy rom? I cannot get my phone to connect to my PC.

same problem!
I have the same problem, this night @ 00:00 it expired.
I have very valuable text files in my phone memory, really sucks.
I really need this back for my job.. Has anyone an idea of recovering the data without flashing a new rom?
And if i flash a new rom, i suppose all data @ phone memory will be lost?
Greatings Bouke

I also have this problem. It seems pretty widespread

That's because it's May 1st everywhere, lol.
This is why you didn't want to flash (or cook) a rom with the beta version of Office 2010. Now, there's a non-time-bombed version available, and you'll need to upgrade to it. A savvy flasher will also always advance the date on a build by a few years immediately after flashing, just to see if there is a time-bomb built in. There's no one to blame but yourself if you didn't do it.

Thats great Farmer Ted and very smug of you...however we may not all be as experienced as you and are looking for a way to resolve this issue.

ROM expired
Can we please get the steps to over come this error.
Please.....Please.....Please....

jedigurustu said:
Thats great Farmer Ted and very smug of you...however we may not all be as experienced as you and are looking for a way to resolve this issue.
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Don't get mad at me. The moment you decide to flash a custom rom to your phone, you have to take responsibility for anything and everything that happens to it. Custom roms don't come with warranties. This isn't the first time that raphael roms have expired due to time-bombs. Almost all of Monx's roms went kaplooey over a year ago. Everyone knew that office mobile 2010 was beta (and if you didn't, it's your fault). It says so right on the download on windows marketplace, and it says it would expire in the spring of 2010. A month ago, many users received messages that their roms would expire in 30 days, and there were threads about it all over the place. It shouldn't be a surprise that the early rom builds that came out with it had a hard expiration date. The problem is that the time-bomb in the early builds was in the Office package, which no one knows how to remove, whereas in the more recent builds the time-bomb is in shell, which is easily patched.

Solution that worked:
Step 1. Turn Off your phone
Step 2. Turn on keeping the Power On button + Low Volume Key pressed untill you see a tricolor display showing current ROM details
Step 3. Connect the phone to PC using USB and flash using any ROM of your choice
Note: This will erase all the data on the phone.

Anyone found a way to backup the data on the phone?
It will run some programs (Sense, some services, some apps accessible via Sense - all accessible for short times by locking, then unlocking the phone) but not connect with Activesync.
Autostart from SD does not seem to work (don't have a known working app to compare)
All I'm missing now is a way to access the internal storage.
Any ideas?

can u still add app shortcuts to sense?
shadow# said:
Anyone found a way to backup the data on the phone?
It will run some programs (Sense, some services, some apps accessible via Sense - all accessible for short times by locking, then unlocking the phone) but not connect with Activesync.
Autostart from SD does not seem to work (don't have a known working app to compare)
All I'm missing now is a way to access the internal storage.
Any ideas?
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can u still add apps to sense??? add them and see if they run.....if so add total commander and pim backup and try to copy every thing to sd

dcsmaniatico said:
can u still add apps to sense??? add them and see if they run.....if so add total commander and pim backup and try to copy every thing to sd
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yes but that's no use.
unfortunately nothing from the start menu or sense home links will work.
just some that are started directly from sense, but not cookie editor for example.

Winmo 6.5 Rom
Can anyone tell me how to get the download to upgrade my 6.1 to 6.5 on my touch pro. Thanks

WM 6.5 ROM expired
Hi Everybody,
I succeeded to flash my Samsung Omnia keeping my data under /My Storage. But all the other data lost. Here is what I have done:
1. Hard Reset: date will be set back to 20080101 (data under My Documents will be lost)
2. Flash new ROM using Samsung Modem Driver. I suggest to use ROMs from pdafanclub.com
3. I tried to restore my data/settings using Spb Backup, but many applications did not worked because of the new ROM, and my device froze continuously.
Good luck!

[Q] 3 important questions in upgrading from 6.1 to 6.5 (urgent)

Hi all, I am about to upgrade my fathers Touch Pro (EU version) from the stock WM 6.1 Fr to Taels 6.5 version.
Nevertheless I need help on 3 very important questions, and that is why I come to you.
I have already installed the HSLP so that part is done, and I have used PIM backup for the contacts, sms, calendar, email and logs.
1) So the question is, will a PIM backup done in WM6.1 be able to restore everything in WM6.5 or will there be some incompatibility issues?
2) As you might know TAEL ROM is an English ROM, but the Touch Pro has an AZERTY keyboard. Is there a way to correctly map ALL the hardware keys on the phone? If yes, how?
3) Finally, if my father does not like the phone the way it is, can I go to the HTC website and download the latest official WM6.1 ROM for the phone and just flash it even with the HSPL on. I don't really need to remove it as it is not in the guarantee any more, but I would like to know if I need to do something to be able to flash the old ROM in.
Thank you all for your help.
Please urgent answers, as I am supposed to do everything today.

1. In my experience, pim back up could be buggy with 6.5. It's been a while since I used it (probably 1.5 yrs), but I highly recommend backing up in multiple ways. Do the pimbackup, also just copy pim.vol to the sd card (that's the method I use). If you have sk tools, use it to backup the pim info. You can also install myphone (or just windows live) and back it up that way. Seriously, you can't have too many backups, in case of a snafu.
To restore pim.vol, right after the flash copy it (don't move it, copy it) with total commander back to the device root and then immediately do a soft reset. I don't know why, but sometimes it doesn't update properly if you screw around for a while before resetting the device. Or, just restore with pimbackup. It will probably be slow.
2. Dunno.
3. Yes, you can flash whatever you want with hard spl. Don't bother over-writing it with the stock spl if you decide to go back to stock (unless it's for warranty reasons).

Hi Farmer Ted, thanks for your responses.
I've done the procedure yesterday and I can answer my questions if anyone has them too.
1) So regarding the first one, PIM backup will recover all your contacts, logs, mms and sms. I have had an error when it came to e-mail, but you can configure that anyway and through imap4 you should not loose any.
2) The second response was given by some people already on XDA, and that is to go to the regedit of the phone. Thankfully tael had one already pre-installed and now I'll just copy paste what I've found:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD\CurLang
change the value in hex 40C
Then save the changes and reboot the phone.
Thankfully all the fn keys work as intended.
PS: The software keyboard will not change unless you install a different one on it.
Regarding my last question, I still did not fully understand the answer. If I go to HTC, download the latest official ROM for the phone, can I flash it straight away, even though I have HSPL 1.9 olex in the phone?
Note: I don't need to remove it for warranty reasons, but I don't want to brick the phone by having it on when installing the official WM6.1 release.
Thanks for all your help so far.

Just so you know, I have flashed the stock ROM after I downloaded it from the HTC support site and have not experienced any issues without having to flash stock spl

Thank you very much (+1 thank), this information was very useful to me.