Trying to figure out the BT Stacks and VC! - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro ROM Development

Well I am at the end of my rope!
After installing Helmi 1.1 (which is working really great!) I have run in to a problem with the BT stacks. It seems that if I use the Broadcom stack I can get Voice Command to kick in through the headset but answering calls are a no go. Pressing the headset button connects the BT but will not pick up.
Switching to the MSBT I can answer and hang up call just fine and the VC kicks in but the audio is on the headset for only a second then goes to the Uni.
Early in testing with the Broadcom stack I tried BTAudioToggle and wonder if I hosed a registry entry that now makes the MSBT not stay on the headset for VC.
Does anyone know what registry changes BTAudioToggle makes? I like the Broadcom stack but not being able to answer my calls from the headset stinks. I have tried a couple of different headsets and have the same problem.
Also, FYI, the 1.15 radio is working really well and the Helmi Rom is doing wonders for my battery life. I have been beating on my JJ today and got it down to 52% late in the day on a 1.3 year old battery! Previously, I would have to be plugging in by late afternoon. I even left it unplugged overnight and didn't see the normal 50% after waking up in the morning.
Thanks!!!!
Gordo

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JABRA Oddities

Ok, I have a BT200 that is working very quirkly with my i-mate. Sometimes the phone transfers the call to the headset, sometimes it doesn't. After deleting and recreating the bond, it works, but not for long. Anyone have one of these setup and working properly? Is there a trick to it?
Also, does anyone know if other headset drivers exist that may work on the i-mate that would allow you to hear all audio (not just phone) through a bluetooth earpiece?
Figured it out?
Ok, I've finally pinpointed that it works fine until I turn off the jabra headset, then when I turn it back on, I have to go through the entire thing again of re-creating the bond, etc..
Anyone know how to avoid having to recreate this everytime I turn the headset on or off?
I don't now ... but i have also jaba 200 and the MDA II is must arrive...
well please chip us informed
Thanks
DenisJ
I have the same combination and have also observed the same hassles.
It seems to work when I turn the BT headset function on the MDA off and on also. Thsi seems to result in a rebond.
Exact Steps
TBD,
If you could post the exact order of the steps you take to turn on / off the headset, I'd appreciate it. Right now, I'm doing the following:
1. Finish BT Headset Call.
2. Disable Bluetooth Headset Mode on Phone.
3. Disable Bluetooth on the phone.
4. Hold button on JABRA to turn it off.
Then, attempting to...
1. Hold button on JABRA to turn it on.
2. Enable Bluetooth on the phone (Set to "On" or "Discoverable")
3. Enable Bluetooth Headset Mode on phone.
4. Attempt to make call.
So if you could posts steps like that, i'd appreciate it. Also, do you set your bluetooth to "On" or "Discoverable"? Do you ever turn off the Bluetooth Radio completely?
Thanks,
Jon.
Yup me an all. I too have the Jabra BT200 and have the same problem. Providing you don't switch off the headset or go out of range your ok, but for instance when you leave the headset in the car and take the XDA2 with you you have to create a new bond to use it again. AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Shame cos so much else has been sorted on it.....and more. What a piece of kit!!
SOMEBODY HELP!!!
OK, so here is the sequence, which seems to work (for me).
1) I set everything up as per instruction. creating the bond between the Jabra and the MDA II.
2) Before (or after) I turn off the Jabra I disable the BT-Headset on the Today-screen.
3) Then I turn the Jabra on again and wait several seconds before enabling the BT Headset on the MDA II.
This seems to work most of the time, though the hint regarding going out of distance might explain the instabilities I have still observed. In any case, using the BT-Headset ON/Off on the Today-screen seems to resync things most of the time and get the Jabra up and running again.
Hope this helps and always open for new ideas
I have been a bit impatient after turning the BT headset on. I'll try it and let you guys know.
I may have been a bit optomistic. :roll:
Today I observed that sometimes the Headset reacts very late. Consequently you miss half of the call. Seems to be an XDA problem.
As for my XDA II with Sony Ericsson HBH-65, after creating the bond, before i turn off the BT headset, i turn off BT profile and BT on my PDA, then turn off the Headset.
If i want to turn on the headset, i activate BT on my PDA, then BT profile, the the headset. Sometimes in teh day headset seem to lose the bond and cannot use the BT to call or whatever. I tried turning on/off BT on my PDA, did not work. Turn on/off headset, it worked. So for me most of the time is my headset causing the problems
i am having the same problem with the new moto bluetooth headset although i have experienced no problemzs with the se hbh-30 bluetooth headset....i can turn off and transfer calls without any impact on teh bonding
Jabra problems
I've had similar problems on a boring old Nokia 6310 with my BT200. In the end, all I could do was find the 'automaticly reconnect' option on the Nokia. during calls, the link is allways fine, but between calls, when I guess one end or the other goes to sleep, the link will drop out, and then instantly reconnect. This happens around 2 or 3 times an hour.
Is there a 'automaticly reconnect' option on your XDA?
All the best
James
OK, I finally sacked my Jabra 200, because of its instability. What use is a headset, that doesn't repond when a call comes in? :evil:
I bought a B-Speech from B-Data yesterday and it seems to be working much better :lol: .
Nokia HS-3w headset with XDA II
Well! I am using the Nokia HS-3W Bluetooth Headset with my XDA II . I can pair up two devices and use it for only ten minutes :twisted: . After that, the headset will off(goes to sleep) . I Have to turn on the headset every ten minutes. I ask the dealer about the problem. They told me this headset work fine with Nokia's phone. They told me , there is three color on the light. Red light will flash when you turn off the headset. Green Light will flash when you turn on the headset up to ten minutes, if cann't find the phone devices , it will goes off.White light will flash, when the headset connected to the phone. When I turn on the headset, I just can see the green light only.But, if someone call me or I make a call ,the white light will flash.After the that the headset will flash the green light again for about ten minutes and goes off. Can anyone help me with this problem? Thanks!
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Hi, I will like to ask how your headset B-Speech is working.
It works 100%?
I have a jabra 250 with the same problems as BT200
Please let me know
Regards
JoseF
The B-Speech Headset is working OK, however it doesn't solve the problems with the Microsoft BT-stack.
Some observations, probably also applicable to the Jabra:
:?: When you go out of range with the headset, it will probably not reconnect automatically (but how do you know)
:x On an incoming call, the XDA may be very slow in activating the headset, so you might miss the call (seems to be tied into what the XDA s/w is just doing at the time
When you turn the Headset off, make sure to turn it off on the Today screen first. And when you turn them on, make sure to wait about 2 sec. after you turn the headset on before turning it on on the Today screen.
:idea: What seems to work best, is turning that Headset off and then on again on the Today screen. It usually comes back after that.
Mind you, it isn't the headset thats causing these problems. Its just that Microsoft botched the Bluetooth stack - probably the programmers had blue teeth from all the wine they were drinking!
I've found the out of range issue to be mute on my jabra 200. The only time the bond is broken is when the headset has been turned off. Or sometimes when it has been on charge.....
Strange........I use the Jabra BT 250 with the MDA II and have non of these reconnection problems. I f I turn it on and place a call (or receive) it reacts immediately.
However, I cannot use the advanced Headset Profile features of the Jabra with the MDA, but this is not the fault of the Jabra........
Could the people who are having problems and the people who are not having problems with their Jabra BT200's please post their version numbers of the Jabra BT200. You can find the version number on the boom going to the microphone. It will be 2 numbers and a letter, like 48A or something like that. I'm testing a theory that I think will help identify why some people work and some don't.
Thanks,
LouisK
Ok, the number on my Jabra Bt 250 is 44B.

Bluetooth headsets - sequence of operation

I decided to open a new thread although there were several threads on the use of bluetooth headsets. My intent is to explore whether there is a particular sequence that we need to follow when operating the XDAII and BT headset. I am using a Ericsson HBH-65.
First observation:
I notice that I need to end all calls via the bluetooth headset rather than from the XDAII. If I end a call using the XDAII (ie depressing the red button), for subsequent calls whether incoming or outcoming, I cannot use the headset. There is no connection between the 2. I seem to be able to simulate this almost 99% of the time.
Second observation:
I normally switch off my BT headset overnight for charging purposes etc. At the same time I deactivate the BT settings on my XDAII.
The next morning, I would activate the BT settings, BT profiles and then switch on my headset.
I notice that for the first call I made/receive the next day, I will have problems using the headset. I am not quite sure whether it is the case that I need to switch on my BT headset first and then the XDAII BT settings and BT profiles. I say this as to resolve the problem, I seemingly need to deactivate/activate the BT profile settings before it works and then for subsequent calls I would have no problems using the headset. This needs further testing to test my hypothesis.
Anyone notice anything different on their part.
regards
Same issues
I have had the HBH-65 and have noticed the same issues. I have also had an Logitech and did not have any problems with that.. I am guessing the issue is with the firmware on the HBH-65.
I use Bluetake GII with my xda2. No sequence, no problems. I never even think about switching it on or off. Works in any sequence. Nice looking too! :wink:
I have a Jabra 250, and I do not have to follow any ritual to have it to work fine
I have a Logitech Bluetooth headset with my Qtek 2020 (rom 1.60.21), and it works like crap.
First of all, the headset wont turn on/off sometimes.
Second - if its turned on, and the qtek has been turned off, i need to reconnect it, to switch automatticly when recieving a call.
Thirdly - both speak and hear is very poor quality/fare away (very silent) even though ive turned the volume to maxx.
BT Headset - Works Flawlessly
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-30 headset and I never give the slightest thought to sequences or procedures. I can turn the headset on and off, the profile on and off, even the BT stack on and off - without ever having to re-bond or anything else.
Now if I could just voice-dial a call with the bloody thing I would be truly happy indeed.
Same problems but getting it figured out
I have the HBH-65 and it seems to work fine now that I've hopefully figured it out. I do a few things. First, I leave the Bluetooth on, on my i-Mate. Second, once it's in range I've noticed it takes about a minute for it to link up. When it links it either makes a single beep (if I just turned on the Headset) or a quiet click if it was already on. I doesn't work ALL of the time, but the more I use it the better it gets. I really expected it to be a little easier.
I have the HBH-200 with call display...which the salesman assured me that it would work with my XDA 2! Call display does not work, and if I end a call on the O2 the headset will hang. Other than that it's great!
I Have a XDAII and a HBH-35
They key to it seems to be not to turn anything off ! it's really frustrating when you think it's all linked up and then get in the car only to recieve a call and not be able to answer it with the headset.
If I have turned the headset off it's a right pain to bond again, red, green lights, funny beeps it's very confusing !
Once it's bonded it's great ! I am amazed with the call quality.
I have an Sony Ericsson HBH 35, I have no problem w3ith the bluetooth pick up call are end calls.
I can even transfer call from my bluetooth to the handaset and by reverse pick up call on my handset and then transfer the call back to the headset all I have to do his to hold the button on the headset fro a few second and the call transfer from the handaset to the bluetooth headset no problem.
Great piece of headset I would really reccomended it to anyone.
The rom on my XDA II is still the version 1.05
Regards
Gigino
Cheers Gigino
Do you ever turn your headset off or disable bluetooth?
I don't have any problems when it's bonded. Just problems if I turn the headset off to save battery
I only turn the headset off at night when I charge it. I use to swwitch off the headset but not anymore becauswe if it is on it use very very little power so it last all day with no problem.
The bluetooth on the XDA II I have never turn it off since I bought it 5 month ago the bluetooth headset on the XdA II is always on.
I've try it switch it of and then on the bletooth and the bluetooh heaset on the XDA II but when I turn it on and turn the headset on it all works fine.
They is no issue on the headset I've tryed every diffrent combinetion the is and the headset works fine.
I have never needed to rebond the headset with the XDA II.
The only thing I have not try is if I can receive a second caller.
Mean trying to switch between 2 caller when I have the chance I will try it.
Regards
Gigino
cheers

Problems with Plantronics M3000 and QTEK 2020

I have bought a Plantronics M3000 bluetooth headset for my QTEK 2020. I have no problems pairing, calling and answering. However the headset just shuts off after a few minutes of conversation. It doesn't just cut the conversation but shuts off. I can make multiple short calls but nothing longer than 3/4 minutes. It works, however, without problems on my wife's Ericsson T68. Anyone can help ? Thanks.
Marek
Hello,
I have the MDA2 (same as QTek2020) and a Plantronics M3000 and It's been working just fine.
The problem you describe it's very weird since you mentioned that the headset works fine with your wife's mobile, and that makes me think that your QTek has some sort of problem with the Bluetooth stack or hardware.
It may be well worth to try (if possible) another headset just to make sure that is not the M3000 fault.
Do you see any type of error or message on the screen at the time of disconnection?
Does it always cut the conversation at the exact same moment?
Does the problem match the time the QTek takes to power save?
Any other clues?
Thanks.
I did not have the occasion to test another BT headset on the Qtek. When it shuts down there isn't any message displayed.
I have no problems with the BT stack (with the Pocket Bluetooth Tools patch) when using it with a BT GPS (Emtac) receiver, it works for hours.
However, your suggestion that it might happen when the Qtek goes in energy saving mode is interesting. I will check that tomorrow.
I'll post the result.
Hi
I seem to have a similar poblem after installing pocket bluetooth tools!.
I use a Jabra BT 250..and I noticed that the headset just mutes during the call..
I am generally used to switching off the display of the XDA after placing the call to power save ...
So I discovered that the headset would mute whenever i switch off the xda after making the call (which it never did prior to installing PBT)!
any thoughts on that?
maybe it has to do with the auto switch off plugin?
Actually I just experienced that too...
If I place (or answer a call) the next time I try to use the phone via the BT headset I notice the BT headset was turned off... Yeah, it could be related to the Powersave feature on the today plugin that PBT installs as a plugin... :roll:
Need to investigate...
Best regards,
Rayan
Both my bt headsets have stopped working since installing pocket bluetooth tools latest version, I have reverted back to version 1005 and everything is fine. I have a sony-ericsson EBH-65 and a skypower clip on headset.
my platronics does the same also its annoying you cant even transfer the call back to the device you have to hand up turn off bt and then turn it abck on and headset mode back on it also does the same on my pc
when im on msn using it as a headset it just d/c and i have to turn it off and turn it back on again
dont see what the problem is
btw the range on the xda2 and platronics is amazing i had it on my bedrooms desk and i went outside it passed through the living room wall and the patio window and i was stood 5m down my garden im sure it would of been over 10m and it was still working if i kept still when i moved it went crackly but ah well lol
just hope someone sorts the prob out
Hi,
I was having the same problem with the M3000. I just had confirmation from Plantronics that this problem is a bug in the product that occurs with the XDA II. I am currently in the process of returning the product.
Regards...Mike
Same problem M3000 doesn't work. Give up now before too much frustration makes you feel ill.
Try the Hello 2 headset. Work with my Aussie XDA2 and is very small and lightweight. Even had a neck chain to carry it around like a USB drive.

Plantronics M3000 Turns itself off after 2 mins talk time

Help!
I have had my M3000 for about 8 months now and until recently it has worked fine.
Last week when I answered a call with it, the headset turned itself off after about 2 mins of talk time. The phone thought the headset was still connected and I had to transfer the call back to the phone, and end the call before I could do anything else. It is now doing this regularly.
I have re-bonded and the headset is fully charged (even tried it while connected to charger!)
I have also tried to run the headset against my pc (audio output) and this works fine.
The only thing I can think of is the battery in the 3000 losing its charge when connected to a phone, but when I charge it, it is ready in a matter of mins.
Anyone any other suggestions as to why the Headset powers itself off ?? Has anyone seen this behaviour before ??
Thanks in advance.
mine does the same mate its the platronics m3000 its crap and doesnt work well with the XDA2 use the bluetrek G2 they work great
Mine did the same, but I just noticed that the XDA2 was on Bluetooth Discoverable mode, when I switched to Bluetooth Connectable (On) it works fine
Thanks to all who have replied....
I have tried a few more things out :lol:
1) Logged an issue with Plantronics :wink:
2) Tried my BT Carkit which works no problem :lol:
3) Tried a Hard Reset - Works great afterwards :lol: until I install my apps
It has therefore got to be a problem with apps and rom version clash??
Those who have had similar issues with the Plantronics turning itself off after using it for more than about 1.5 Mins.... Do you have any of the following apps ???
Belkin IR Keyboard Drivers (Belkin WPDAK)
Fonix Voice Dial/ UK Roger
Microsoft Money
MTUX Ringtone X
Pocket Bluetooth Tools (1012)
RegKing
Sandisk WiFi
SBSH.NET Birth2Day/ Calendat Plus/ iLauncher
Scary Bears Check Notifi
Yishin Power Check
CDL - O2 Customisiation
Thanks,
Ian
Plantronics Bluetooth Headset
I also have the same problem. I also have a SanDisk wifi card (which on occasion also stops working causing me to hard reset) and Microsoft Voice Dialler and Pocket Breeze and a number of other plugins. The whole point of plug-ins is to use them! Any suggestions???
David
It gets worse!!
I have just tried the Widcomm stack on the XDAII.
Its probably me, but I just cant get the thing to pick up the headset when I make or recieve a call, so that was no use.
To uninstall Widcomm I had to do a hrad reset (Widcomm disables the sound after uninstallation for some reason - grrrr), and now the damm thing shows the same symptoms - even on a virgin hard reset device.
My only conclusion is that something changed in the last ROM to kill it. I'll wait for another ROM upgrade and see what happens then, but will now probably end up buying another headset.
Is anyone on 1.72 with a Plantronics that works??? :?:
Ian - Rom 1.72
Do you have the 1.72 Rom on the XDAII from the UK? I thought it wasn't out yet. Is it better than 1.60?
Re: Ian - Rom 1.72
pavid1 said:
Do you have the 1.72 Rom on the XDAII from the UK? I thought it wasn't out yet. Is it better than 1.60?
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Yep 1.72 UK.
Its better than 1.6x but has still got issues with it - like needing to be hard reset every now and again (grrr). But BT is more stable and power drain is better.

Bluetooth Issues

I am having multiple issues with Bluetooth on TouchPro2:
Issue # 1 with no solution
When trying to end calls using the end button of Jawbone Prime, it does not work, you must end call using the handset.
Issue # 2 (New)
When ending calls with any Bluetooth device (in my case built in Bluetooth in Nissan Altima) the calls will not terminate, have to press end button many time before calls ends
Are there any Bluetooth registry hacks that may solve either one of these issue?
golfman32 said:
I am having multiple issues with Bluetooth on TouchPro2:
Issue # 1 with no solution
When trying to end calls using the end button of Jawbone Prime, it does not work, you must end call using the handset.
Issue # 2 (New)
When ending calls with any Bluetooth device (in my case built in Bluetooth in Nissan Altima) the calls will not terminate, have to press end button many time before calls ends
Are there any Bluetooth registry hacks that may solve either one of these issue?
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I see the same issue. Sorry no solution.
I confirm same end issue ....although until reading above i didnt know it stemed outside of the plagued nissan vehicles with navigation.
I have a lot of confidence that this will be fixed sooner rather than later since it is now affecting everyday bt headsets vs. one isolated group of nissan / infinity vehciles.
For those who own this phone and a nissan / infinity. we will take this partial victory as it has been a long two years since the last known phone from htc that worked correctly with our cars was a mogul with WM5 / before that the apache.
Its nice to have a working touchpro 2 and nissan ...even if its not 110% with the disconnect issue.
I have an 08 Nissan with the Bose/Communications/convenience package, and my bluetooth worked fine with my i760, xv6800, and Touch Pro. But I experience the disconnect issue as well now with my TP2. Must be the new HTC drivers.
We'll standby for a patch. But I'm pretty sure even though the time keeps running on the radio, that the call still disconnects. In any case, it isn't right, and I doubt we'll see it when we get patched to 6.5.
FYI, from my research this is the widcom stack on the TP2. I thought i read that in the tmobile TP2 forum.
That would explain why it works because microsoft rarely fixes things on windows mobile.
If so it only more confirms ms at fault and not nissan.
The nav radio was always different than the non nav bose radio in the nissans. Different BT modules i believe.
That would explain why you didnt have the problems that so many others did.
I might be wrong on the widcom stack but I woudl think the tmobile and cdma variety are using same chipsets and drivers. for the BT radio
BMW bluetooth
Same issues on BMW bluetooth
Having simmular problems with an JVC BT1 specielly if i use AD2P at the same time.. phone can lag for like 10-20-30 sec someethimes even more....
Getting VERY tired of this!
several BT issues
I seem to be having the same issue as most of the post on this thread ...my headset, and my Infiniti will not end my call , but has anyone else had a problem just trying to get the bluetooth to open from comm manager or settings ? When I try to turn on Bluetooth through my comm manager it says cant turn on bluetooth , and when I try trough settings it says cannot start the Blutooth stack ???? If i do a soft reset BT will work but if i disabale and try to connect again im having the same issue ....some one help me out
TP2 sprint
have exact same issue with my parrot MK6100
have to press end call many time on the remote to end the call sucessfully
Me too, also using Parrot 6100
The bluetooth is a nightmare. I have a Pioneer AVIC-F90BT with v3 software and I can't even answer the phone when it rings. I even sent to phone to automatically answer after 1 ring and when BT is connected it just freezes the dialer. Then when I hang up a call the phone freezes for about 20 seconds. It sucks so bad.
verizon tp2, jawbone prime.
from prime: I can initiate voicecalling. I can answer a call. I just cannot end a call from the headset.
I think the blue tooth issues are due to the locking of the fm raido they reside on the same chip they talk about this on ppcgeeks
I have issues with my Ford Sync as well. If bluetooth is on and I want to use the Sync system I have to turn off bluetooth then turn it back on to get it to work. Quite annoying. I never had any issues with my XV6800 so it must be the bluetooth radio in the phone. Hopefully they come out with an update or when 6.5 is out it gets fixed.
WITHOUT DOUBT THE BLUETOOTH on the TP2. I have the same issue with Parrot 3200. It may be that different drivers would help.
Anyone been brave enough to try anything else?
Ditto here, but I'll take it a step farther:
I'm using a Jawbone Prime with my Verizon Touch Pro2 and it's not only unable to end calls from the headset, but it will disconnect the headset at random in the middle of calls. The only way I figure it out is to pick up the phone when I can't hear anything, only to find the "headset disconnected, place the handset to your ear" message.
Annoying.
arche3 said:
verizon tp2, jawbone prime.
from prime: I can initiate voicecalling. I can answer a call. I just cannot end a call from the headset.
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Same setup and results here, and additionally the redial last number feature is spotty at best.
When HardSPL comes out, I'm going to offer a bounty for $50 for whoever can get the MS stack working correctly on our devices with all profiles. Anyone else in with me?
Ohiowa said:
Ditto here, but I'll take it a step farther:
I'm using a Jawbone Prime with my Verizon Touch Pro2 and it's not only unable to end calls from the headset, but it will disconnect the headset at random in the middle of calls. The only way I figure it out is to pick up the phone when I can't hear anything, only to find the "headset disconnected, place the handset to your ear" message.
Annoying.
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Seeing exact same random disconnect issue with my jawbone prime and my sprint touch pro 2. It happened twice today. One time I was speaking and didn't even realize it had happened for several minutes! Any fix for this?
I contacted HTC over this. The more people that complain about it to HTC, the quicker they will release a fix.
MS BT Stack on TP2
helix139 said:
Same setup and results here, and additionally the redial last number feature is spotty at best.
When HardSPL comes out, I'm going to offer a bounty for $50 for whoever can get the MS stack working correctly on our devices with all profiles. Anyone else in with me?
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I am in. I need the MS stack for my wireless keyboard and mouse.

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