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HI all,
The users of this forum seem to be at the cutting edge of technology.
We embrace Windows Mobile in all it's shapes, forms & glory.
What I'm asking you, is what do you prefer ?
And why ?
It's almost a survey, but not quite.
I'm not asking many specific questions, there's no a) b) or c), no right or wrong.
What I want to know is why you use the device that you use ?
What are you perceptions of the PPC operating system Vs the SP operating system.
I understand that each of these devices meet certain requirements for certain people, but I'd like a view, a global view on where we, as users/engineers/developers, see the direction of PPC & SP heading.
I'll start off:
I prefer Smartphones.
I receive alot of email, but do not have to respond to all of it immediately.
I spend a fair bit of time away from my desk.I don't do alot of web browsing, so screen real estate is not so much of an issue.
So a qwerty keyboard is not essential to me.
The smartphone Operating system is what suits me best, as I prefer a small form factor and would rather not use a stylus.
The smartphone I'm currently using is an imate SP5, MotorolaQ.
I have in the past used:- SP2, SP3, XDAII, JAM, PDA2K, JASJAR, KJAM, JAMin, Motorola MPX/MPX220. ( and some others that I can not remember )
I have used many devices, as you can see.
To me, the SP5 is a standout device.
It does exactly what I want.
So, please, spare some time and tell me why you like what you like.
Thanks.
Nice to have someone with the same curiosity as me
Take a look at this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=55256&highlight=
Anyway, I'll have my say.
I prefer the PDA phone. If you were to get the smaller version (e.g. Magician, Wizard sized) phone, it doesn't make much of a difference in terms of size and weight as to compared to smart phone.
For PDA phone, the screen may be big, but the size is not the most important thing that I had in mind, rather it is the touch-screen that is what most attract me.
However, smart phone are within the area of my consideration as I've been with normal keypad entry phone for quite a long period of time that I seems to have better input speed on a keypad than of any other method (including virtual keypad).
However again, as most of the PDA applications (of which may not be useful to me) are design with touch screen in mind, I'm quite reluctant to use a non-touch screen version of the WM5 as to avoid incompatibility. Unless there is a system of consideration of non-touch screen (e.g. Symbian), then I may consider a smart phone.
Anyway, there are some application that you may not be using but good to have around, which only a touch screen can give you. Example, the scratch pad or note pad where you can scribble things on it, draw stuff as like a map to a location or a very very ultra quick note, which you cannot done without.
Anyway, I think the PDA makers should make best of both world (HTC is slow on this matter) like those you get from Asus, and the newly O2 stealth. For me, it would be better if you were to give me a keypad and a touchscreen rather than a qwerty and a touchscreen.
My view. Hope others will join in.
Well my opinion is similar to hanmin's.
At my work place I get to play with all kinds of WM based devices so I had a chance to try out SP5 an other smartphones.
Just scrolling through the endless menus using the keys gives me the feeling of luck of control and leaves me very annoyed (not to mention my thumbs haven't had this much workout since I last used my trusty old GameGear console - first color handheld from Sega). It is so much nicer to be able to just click on what you want.
Also the apps for Smartphone version always seem more constricted then their PPC counterparts. I like the robustness even at the cost of stability (some times).
Still, while I wouldn't give up my Jamin for anything less the a TyTN or better yet the soon to come ASUS 535 that will have it all (WIFI, BT, GPS)
I think Smartphones have their specific market.
Namely, people who don't want to carry a complex gadget, but need just a little more then a simple cell phone.
Although I think that as soon as some company incorporates push mail into a 'dumb' phone (just the outlook push, non of the other WM5 stuff) the Smartphones will loose their market share. Question is will MS let this happen...
Well that's right.
It's no so much a matter of "What features do I want?"
It's more, for me anyway, "What features do i need?"
I guess a stylus comes in handy in some instances.
But more often than not, I'm just answering calls, reading emails, responding quickly to those emails or sending sms.
And I love be able to just put the thing in my pocket, without the feeling of having a brick in there.
I really don't like the belt holsters.
Having said all of this, I've just started using one of these
http://www.1gadgets.com/images/products/pda/hpipaqhw6965.jpg
...and I'm quite liking it.
Because !
I can use it and not have to get out the stylus if I don't want to
It's much improved from the previous ipaqs, in that it has the soft keys now on the front, which make things 100% accessible ( along with qwerty keyboard ) with out the need for getting the stick out !
It also has a built in GPS receiver, so I'd say this devies has everything
HP 6965?
That thing is almost the size of the Universal, talking about a brick.
But to each his own.
One thing I forgot to mention: I think Asus have the right formula with the P525. It's a full PPC but with a phone pad (basic candy-bar form factor) and only slightly bigger than SP5. I found that with proper T9 there is no need what so ever for a full QWERTY keyboard, even for those who don't like using the stylus.
Hi guys,
Well for me,i had a compact(magician)which was small for a pda but big for a phone,
it suited my needs but when i changes depts at work and found myself away mon-fri living in hotels,
the compact went wrong so i used the chance to risk a chnage, i then went to an exec suited me perfectly,alhto' a bit put off due to size iw as able to use as a mini laptop,for email web browesing and moslty msn messngers so a large screen and keyboard were perfect and i learned to live with and love the exec and also pop in my pocket when done unlike a laptop
so for me depends on your needs, for me at the mo wel think il get the flipphone htc next,then use that as a phone.sms,email and keep the exec for weekends away and when i need a mp3.broweser wtc wtc just chuck it in a bag and go
so id like best of both worlds tbh
Today's pocket-pc phones have reached a size that doesn't make them significantly more cumbersome than smartphones (in my opinion). Following from that fact, I have to say I prefer the full-blown functionality of the PPC phone in my pocket.
Simple!
levenum said:
HP 6965?
That thing is almost the size of the Universal, talking about a brick.
But to each his own.
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Using it because my SP5 is in for repair.
It got stuck in headset mode.
Did a hard reset, even reflashed the ROM !
Still started up in headsetmode, couldn't use the phone without earplugs.
Warranty job
Well, first of to say, good taste, being you were a user of the MPX series like me .
Well for me, I prefer the PPC. The smartphone cannot do enough for me. The PPC is powerful, touchscreen, HUGE screen, more customizable. And there is more software for it. Plus I need the hardware keyboard most PPC include now.
I suggest you use the Motorola MPX300 if you want a "SMALL" pocket pc. If was great for me when I use it, but I gave it away at work.
I started with the XDA2i, loved it (except the occasional freeze) as it had the functinality I needed.
I use the Sync feature to keep on top of my calendar and contacts while also bein able to check the web and download e-mail at the same time. The large screen allowed a good use of Tom Tom Navigator which is vital for me as I tend to work all over the country.
I recently upgraded to XDA Mini and find the actual qwerty keypad a much better way of using the system than the stylus. All in all, with the Windows Mobile package I'm more likely to be able to link with my Windows PC (especially with the transfer of Word/excel docs and the use of Outlook) than the potential issues of cross o/s synchronization. I love the XDA Mini. as it suits me perfectly and saves me carrying 2 devices (shame I can't get a cradle for the XDA to sit on the bike with TomTom)
I started off using an mpx200, then the mpx220 and they were good, lightweight, stylish, and packing windows mobile which was great for checking emails and running low level apps.
Like alot of users I then upgraded to the XDA Mini and havent looked back, the larger screen, the capacity for more features, for better applications and also whilst I dont use the features as often, the ability to turn a pocket pc into a media centre of sorts is appealing.
Overall for me at the moment the main reason behind my recent purchase of a TyTN was due to the keyboard. The jasjar was more machine then I needed once I had left my previous job, but going to a 6828 I missed the keyboard, and thats then where the TyTN stepped in.
In any case I think these devices will become more converged themselves in the future and the line between smartphone and pocket pc will diminish, in one part because of the pocket pcs becoming more functional yet lighter and cheaper and also in particular with the next version of Windows Mobile which is meant to unify the two platforms.
my view
Well the world is surely moving towards a large screen vga display device which fits snugly in ones pocket ,I use a o2 XDA IIs and the range it offers in usablity is terrific.just dont go by the weight in grams and so on ,see if a device can do all your work and still comfortably slip into your shirt pocket well ,this form factor will be the future of all phone at some point of time.I would say a 4 to 4.5 ich screen with all the essential keys built around the phone and many are soft keys on the screen like the phone dialer.so what is today a smartphone will morph into a shirtpocket PC one day.Just imagine such a device with an intel duo processor running at 3 ghz and all the apps.on a note book,well this will be the future pocket PC phone one day very soon!!
Mukund
India
I am all for pocket pc's as opposed to Smartphones. I started out with a small PPC6700 and then decided that all the features of an Xda Exec would better fit my lifestyle. I was mainly attracted towards it because of the full qwerty keyboard (none of that tiny crap where you cant press the buttons properly) and the VGA screen.
Now I am working where I need to have a second line so at first I thought I would get a smartphone to complete the pair but after better analyzing the situation there is no way I can go without a touchscreen anymore. Im thinking a Exec and Artemis combo
Hi guys just wondering if I could get some of your thoughts on my situation. Want to buy a new phone to replace my Xda Exec. The problem with my exec is that it is a bit bulky. Want to get something within the next few months, and cost is not a factor. A few of my choices for the replacement are:
-Samsung SGH-i600
*big fan of the slim design plus all connectivity options
-HTC Artemis
*the mouse seems cool but probably wouln't use GPS
-Nokia N95
*seems it has everything
-HTC TyTN
*wouldnt have to wait to buy it but I wanted to go with something different that slide out which I already had with UTStarcomm 6700
If you could pick one of these which would you choose and why? Also any other suggestions would be well appreciated...
Well personally:
Not the Samsung SGH-i600 - because it is a Smartphone, no touch screen, limited apps.
Not the Nokia N95 - because it runs Symbian.
The choice between Artemis and TyTN is a tough one. If you are sure you won't miss the keyboard and you don't mind waiting I would definitely recommend the Artemis. It has way more stuff.
i'd say Trinity
because it have 3g
Not the Samsung - too basic, not the Nokia (could be a decent phone if it ran a decent operating system - forget multiple apps under Symbian).
Artemis - slower processor than the Tytn, but a nice phone. But if you don't need built in GPS I'd go for the Tytn.
Richard
As with others, the candidates are..
==HTC Artemis
- I like it as it does not have a keyboard
==HTC TyTN (my choice)
- I like the WiFi (if I have to choose that with a GPS - can always have a GPS mouse in my car, IF I have a car)
Thanks
Thanks for the suggestions guys, must be right. Should just stick with a WM pocket pc phone. Probably go with the Artemis since the processor is faster; i really dislike how slow my Exec got at times.
Cant find no release date, guess i have to play the waiting game now.
i600 for me if you must
I believe GPS/ppc cannot be a phone at the same time, at least for now.
Not for serious/business use at any case.
best solution VGA ppc+small fast phone.
vga because its stupid to give so much money for ugly qvga with monster pixels.
my opinion.
depends on what you want to do...if you want to use it as a Phone first pda second then go for nokia or samsung because htc's GSM radio implimentation is BAD
if its a pda first thing then go for a ppc...which one would depend on which suits you
I was lucky and won a **** load of money on some stupid TV-show.
Now I am able to but myself a really nice phone..
My question is: Which phone should I buy. Which model/brand is the best of the best (for this moment ofcourse?)
Thx
Try Dell
Am hearing all the rave reviews for dell axim x5 but I havent used it yet
give me half money then i will tell you which is the best pda momently
i like hp ipaq 6828
so give me half, we will buy together
take a look here
http://www.gsmarena.com/hp_ipaq_rw6828-1606.php
i would buy zaurus sl-c1000 and small nokia phone
If I were to choose from what is available right now I would go for either the TyTN or the Trinity depending on how much I need / dislike the keyboard.
Problem is there is a new and even better model out almost every week...
I will say that the most stable at the moment is Asus, so, i will point you on it.
Best for me?
I'd have to throw my vote to the HTC Herald.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/11/20/htc-herald-gets-its-htc-branding-the-p4350/
Who needs video conferencing from your mobile?
I don't know. According to specs Herald looks like a Wizard with a new case.
Same 200MHz processor, same 64/128 memory configuration, the only improvements are WiFi G and 2MP camera.
Not that it's a bad phone, but if you can afford the latest why not get something that is a step ahead.
/nag mode on
This should be under a general forum, not under a prophet upgrading forum
/nag mode off
if an PPC with TI OMAP 3430, 550MHz CPU, i'ld to chose it ^_^
Yeah wrong section.
That said - a Hermes with a built-in GPS and proper connectors on the base instead of that stupid hybrid thing - would be just about my perfect device.
hi friends
i want to buy a new pocket pc so can u suggest me which is best pocket pc
That greatly depends on if you're looking for a standalone or converged phone.
Best Standalone PPC: Dell Axim X51v
IMHO Best Phone converged PPC: I-Mate Ultimate 7150
Both have great highend specs, very few devices match.
As for what fits to XDA, I say the Advantage/Athena...
Jamin and only Jamin!
Just kidding
Like Noiro said it is all a matter of what you are looking for.
For example, if you must have a built in GPS receiver but do not want a phone ASUS 696 is probably the best thing for you.
The AXIM x51v is a nice PPC but it won't be supported for long because DELL got out of the PPC business (at least for now, rumors of an upcoming phone are circulating). A newer alternative would be ACER n311.
The Athena / Advantage does have it all but if I were to get something that big it would have to be a full UMPC, not an overgrown PPC. (The main difference is the ability to run regular PC apps)
If you want real advice you should state what the primary use of the device will be, what features are must and which you do not want (some people have jobs where they can not carry anything with a camera).
the blue one over there just left of the shoe
Cingular 8525 is the best
Does anybody have any updated news on the HTC Omni? Why the delay?
If HTC develops it as enthusiatically as the new Touch Diamond and TytnII, then we are sure to have a winner
Thanks
Calli
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Does anybody have any updated news on the HTC Omni? Why the delay?
If HTC develops it as enthusiatically as the new Touch Diamond and TytnII, then we are sure to have a winner
Thanks
Calli
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1. no news at all
2. did you really mean the TyTN II as an "enthusiatically" engineered device?
I heard it has fallen off the edge of the world, not to be seen anytime soon
I believe HTC has changed his business strategy. they use to make PDA-phones but now they are focusing making WM-PHONES. Devices like Universal or Omni are communicators which mostly targeted for Business user. Obviously the market share (money) is not on those. Furthermore they are still providing Universal or bigger brother Athena and have no competition on those Devices.
Iphone attracted a lot of people not because of it's technology package but the simplicity and Multi media ability. Furthermore Ipnone doesn't rest and improve its technology. Therefore as we can see HTC concentrate since Iphone release to keep up or be in front of apple. So therefore I dont think we will see in any near future the Omni
Bulldog said:
I believe HTC has changed his business strategy. they use to make PDA-phones but now they are focusing making WM-PHONES. Devices like Universal or Omni are communicators which mostly targeted for Business user. Obviously the market share (money) is not on those. Furthermore they are still providing Universal or bigger brother Athena and have no competition on those Devices.
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Sure they have: the hx4700 with WM6.1 (or the iPAQ 210 if you prefer) with a decent HSDPA-enabled smartphone like the Nokia N95. Much cheaper (particularly if you go the hx4700 route), much better, much easier to carry than the Athena. I'd personally in no way pay for Athena $500 - let alone $1300. It's just a joke with a rididulously bad keyboard. (Yes, the new Athena also sucks.)
Now that I've got a iPAQ 210, I've entirely stopped carrying my Universal with me and switched to the 210 + N95 setup. I'm absolutely happy with the duo.
Now that I've got a iPAQ 210, I've entirely stopped carrying my Universal with me and switched to the 210 + N95 setup. I'm absolutely happy with the duo.[/quote]
You are talking from my heart Menneisyys,
I use to carry also two devices. I Stored a lot business related information on my PDA and the phone was just for communication. During office hours it was no issue with that. However I found after office hours when I was out for a Drink I did mostly forget or don't wan to carry my PDA. That leads me not having my important information when I have needed them.
Therefore I bought my first WM PDA/phone ( XDA II) back 2004 because I could combine 2 devices in to one and XDA II was not larger or heavier then my PDA. I could carry it easily on my belt.So it was a Great change.
I broke my XDA II 2006 which was a great Device, hell I think it was the best device that HTC untill now made.
Then I bought the Universal which was the most advanced available device It was big and heavy so that I almost lost my pants if I carry it on my belt. Phone functionality was not really best , battery live was bad but it had what I needed (1=2). However Now waiting 2 years of a device that combines the good things from XDA II and Universal. Unfortunately no update and I have given up waiting.
As my universal come to age I bought HTC kaiser, well after using it for 1 week I have given it to my wife!! it is to small as a PDA and it is to big as a phone.
It seams all the Devices coming out having the same issue and no one cares for a old guys that need larger screen. Currently Guess what I have repaired my XDA II and using it as my primary again. If the XDA II dies completely I will also change to having again 2 devices. Well may be I am lucky and some one will produce a device like the Nokia E90 in WM version.
I agree. XDA II was great. Pity it does not come with 3G & HSDPA. Radio signal was far better than the Universals. Hopefully somebody will copy the design and form factor, add in all bells & whistles and then we the older guys will again be content.
I cant wait for sony x1 with 3" wvga at 800x480!
While we patiently wait for the ultimate PDA Phone edition, what would my learnerd colleagues suggest as the best Radio for the Universal using Jwrightsmcps Crossbow 2.12.08? I'm currently using Radio 1.18.00 which has very poor signal strength.
Thanks
Menneisyys said:
1. no news at all
2. did you really mean the TyTN II as an "enthusiatically" engineered device?
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in response to #2. no kidding, i was more enthusiastic about reverting back to my wizard after i sold my tytn II 2 months after buying it. that thing was a disappointment.
Menneisyys said:
Sure they have: the hx4700 with WM6.1 (or the iPAQ 210 if you prefer) with a decent HSDPA-enabled smartphone like the Nokia N95. Much cheaper (particularly if you go the hx4700 route), much better, much easier to carry than the Athena. I'd personally in no way pay for Athena $500 - let alone $1300. It's just a joke with a rididulously bad keyboard. (Yes, the new Athena also sucks.)
Now that I've got a iPAQ 210, I've entirely stopped carrying my Universal with me and switched to the 210 + N95 setup. I'm absolutely happy with the duo.
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The Athena is not a good phone, but its the best UMPC for many people (myself included) if you consider everything (size, price, battery life, connectivity, tv-out, etc...) and the keyboard isn't that bad, I've enabled the software clicking sound, and its very usable and comfortable for me. I've paid 500$ bucks on mine (slightly used but like-new condition), and its probably the best bang you can get for your buck (at least for my use).
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The Athena is not a good phone, but its the best UMPC for many people (myself included) if you consider everything (size, price, battery life, connectivity, tv-out, etc...) and the keyboard isn't that bad, I've enabled the software clicking sound, and its very usable and comfortable for me. I've paid 500$ bucks on mine (slightly used but like-new condition), and its probably the best bang you can get for your buck (at least for my use).
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i guess u never heard of sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp/Vista dual boot, what u can do at home, u can do it at umpc. Athena is not a umpc, athena is a 5" brick. haha
netnerd said:
i guess u never heard of sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp/Vista dual boot, what u can do at home, u can do it at umpc. Athena is not a umpc, athena is a 5" brick. haha
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I guess you didn't read everything I wrote. No UMPC that costs anywhere near the price of the Athena and is about the same size, has the features the Athena can offer.
1. Battery life. needless to say, about 6 times more than any UMPC (except Shift on WM mode).
2. Connectivity. 3.5G, WIFI, BT, IR.
3. Input/Output. USB host, S-video, VGA, composite.
Of course its not really a UMPC, since its not a PC, but its better at most tasks that any UMPC out there. Especially if you consider the small size and price.
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I guess you didn't read everything I wrote. No UMPC that costs anywhere near the price of the Athena and is about the same size, has the features the Athena can offer.
1. Battery life. needless to say, about 6 times more than any UMPC (except Shift on WM mode).
2. Connectivity. 3.5G, WIFI, BT, IR.
3. Input/Output. USB host, S-video, VGA, composite.
Of course its not really a UMPC, since its not a PC, but its better at most tasks that any UMPC out there. Especially if you consider the small size and price.
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end of the day it ends up to been a costly PDA/UMPC. As phone it is obviously to big!!!
The XDAII Revolution
Reviving XDA II campaign
If all the fans of the trusted XDAII get togther I'm sure we will find an enterprising technician that can rebuild/modify the motherboard to give us HSDPA, Wi-Fi, VGA out, extra mem, speed etc.
LETS START THE NEW REVOLUTION! (maybe only then will the manufacturesrs get the message?)
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Reviving XDA II campaign
If all the fans of the trusted XDAII get togther I'm sure we will find an enterprising technician that can rebuild/modify the motherboard to give us HSDPA, Wi-Fi, VGA out, extra mem, speed etc.
LETS START THE NEW REVOLUTION! (maybe only then will the manufacturesrs get the message?)
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HTC made master piece and released the HTC P6300 but the spec doesnt include what you wish.What a Joke!!!! FORGET it HTC now is just phone manufacturer and just focusing gaining market share.
kramerica2 said:
The Athena is not a good phone, but its the best UMPC for many people (myself included) if you consider everything (size, price, battery life, connectivity, tv-out, etc...) and the keyboard isn't that bad, I've enabled the software clicking sound, and its very usable and comfortable for me. I've paid 500$ bucks on mine (slightly used but like-new condition), and its probably the best bang you can get for your buck (at least for my use).
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Of course, for $500, it's a VERY good buy. I meant the price/performance ratio at its current price point ($1300).
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I guess you didn't read everything I wrote. No UMPC that costs anywhere near the price of the Athena and is about the same size, has the features the Athena can offer.
1. Battery life. needless to say, about 6 times more than any UMPC (except Shift on WM mode).
2. Connectivity. 3.5G, WIFI, BT, IR.
3. Input/Output. USB host, S-video, VGA, composite.
Of course its not really a UMPC, since its not a PC, but its better at most tasks that any UMPC out there. Especially if you consider the small size and price.
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1. battery life means nothing, if it doesnt do much! my Sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp or Vista, can run JAVA APPLETS, real xp/vista programs like itune, mirc, download mp3 from internet and transfer it to ipod/iphone. can Athena running on Windows Mobiles does this? haha
2. sony 4.5" umpc also have wifi, BT. since both umpc and athena is too big to put in pocket, u also be carry a cellphone. if there' is no wifi avail, i just teather 3.5G from pdaphone to umpc.
3. sony 4.5" umpc caddle has 3 USB port, so u can plug in real mouse or keyboard if u dont want to use build-in keyboard or mouse pointer. it also have a monitor output port! and ethernet port too!
sony 4.5" umpc is about the same size as 5" athena! and it costs about the same price as Athena used!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Vaio-VGN-U...goryZ177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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1. battery life means nothing, if it doesnt do much! my Sony 4.5" umpc running on Xp or Vista, can run JAVA APPLETS, real xp/vista programs like itune, mirc, download mp3 from internet and transfer it to ipod/iphone. can Athena running on Windows Mobiles does this? haha
2. sony 4.5" umpc also have wifi, BT. since both umpc and athena is too big to put in pocket, u also be carry a cellphone. if there' is no wifi avail, i just teather 3.5G from pdaphone to umpc.
3. sony 4.5" umpc caddle has 3 USB port, so u can plug in real mouse or keyboard if u dont want to use build-in keyboard or mouse pointer. it also have a monitor output port! and ethernet port too!
sony 4.5" umpc is about the same size as 5" athena! and it costs about the same price as Athena used!
http://cgi.ebay.com/Sony-Vaio-VGN-U...goryZ177QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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First of all, all the tasks you've mentioned CAN be done with the Athena.
Of course, each user should meet his own demands with the device he has. I can speak only for myself, but I need a device that can:
1. Play movies and music.
2. Include a TV-OUT port and VGA/DVI.
3. Be able to push e-mails via exchange server all the time, surf the web, play some simple games.
4. Do all of the above at least for 5-6 hours strait.
5. Have a camera.
6. Include some sort of integrated keyboard.
7. Be able to be charged via USB, Car, Airplane, Outlet.
Now, find me any UMPC that can do all of the above better than the Athena, and is as portable as the Athena.
kramerica2 said:
First of all, all the tasks you've mentioned CAN be done with the Athena.
Now, find me any UMPC that can do all of the above better than the Athena, and is as portable as the Athena.
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really? if u going to get a brick, atleast get something better like a real umpc!
please tell me how can i run JAVA APPLETS from websites (NOT javascripts), and transfer mp3 from Athena to ipod/iphone.
i already told u! sony 4.5" can do it better and it' about the same size as Athena and cost around the same price too! yes, sony 4.5 umpc can play movies too! and i just checked my sony, it has headphone jack, yes u can play music too! haha. and a mic jack too! haha