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Hey, I want to know if its possible to disable multitasking or make it so hitting the "back/ok" button will close programs not minimize. I hate the multitasking in windows mobile because its very annoying to hit that tiny task manager on the top right corner just to close programs. It also sacrifices performance and battery life to keep those apps running in the background. I hardly ever need to multitask so is there any way to disable multitasking or something close to that?
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Hey, I want to know if its possible to disable multitasking or make it so hitting the "back/ok" button will close programs not minimize. I hate the multitasking in windows mobile because its very annoying to hit that tiny task manager on the top right corner just to close programs. It also sacrifices performance and battery life to keep those apps running in the background. I hardly ever need to multitask so is there any way to disable multitasking or something close to that?
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Dude, there's 65k+ of software for PPCs including taskmanagers.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND buying iphone, if you cannot manage.
Or wait for w7.
Anyway, you may give away your device for poor ones, too.
It also sacrifices performance and battery life to keep those apps running in the background.
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So, maybe CLOSE them with any TASK MANAGER available....
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Can you imagine, there are people that are not aware, that "x" is not closing apps?...
Despite of all knowledge of the world, people, internet and FOCKIN twitter.
Iphones are way too expensive. I know that there are task manager apps but none of them solve my problem. Iam saying that its annoying to constantly close apps in the background. It's also annoying to hit the tiny X button, which I know closes apps. The multitasking feature is useless to me and I want it disabled because it would make this phone much better for me. I am not a heavy power user, just a casual user.
Multitasking can not be disabled. That basically defeats the purpose of android and having a smart phone. All you can do is use a task manager or task killer. Whatever you want to call it. I don't know how it doesn't solve your problem because what it does is close the app.
See the thing is that android is a much better multitasker and I didnt see any performance drops when multitasking on a android phone. Windows mobile gets real slow and requires you to either soft reset or clean ram often. Yeah, I think iam done with windows mobile phones for now, Iam really looking forward to Windows phone 7. The perfect phone for casual users like me.
Tada1228 said:
It's also annoying to hit the tiny X button
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have you ever thought about mapping taskkiller to button....
Advanced Task Killer can end apps on screen-off. I use this keeps phone running smoothly. Can also be set to do it at a timed interval.
You can use app from google play store name Ram Manager Pro this app can manage options multitasking and swap file. When you check more multitasking then depending from your available ram android will keep in memory lot of apps or reverse will be better for games with free memory for hard gaming. You can use swap file 256 mb recommended and swampiness to 80. I have multitasking set at full.
Okay so, i got my first android device htc desire hd and it's amazing.
Coming from wm6.5, i noticed there was no way to actually exit some apps...they're still running. i was going to download a task killer but did some reading and turns out it's bad.
There's a options in settings to see running processes and can kill them
But i don't know if that's safe to do...
How exactly do you exit apps in android? or is there no need to exit them? android will close them automatically to manage memory or something?
I would be grateful if someone can explain
Thank you
Gurps777 said:
Okay so, i got my first android device htc desire hd and it's amazing.
Coming from wm6.5, i noticed there was no way to actually exit some apps...they're still running. i was going to download a task killer but did some reading and turns out it's bad.
There's a options in settings to see running processes and can kill them
But i don't know if that's safe to do...
How exactly do you exit apps in android? or is there no need to exit them? android will close them automatically to manage memory or something?
I would be grateful if someone can explain
Thank you
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new to Android here some posts to read.
Hi, Android 2.2 is build with an "internal taskiller", that will do most of the job itself, but if some apps just doesn't wan't to close themselves: Then just use a taskiller, nothing will turn out wrong. I have been using it for 2 years on my HTC, without any problems at all. But haven't used it on my samsung, cause it has got android 2.2
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How exactly do you exit apps in android? or is there no need to exit them? android will close them automatically to manage memory or something?
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You hit the nail on the head there!
Android has no need to fully exit applications. When you close them they remain idle so switching back to them is much quicker. If Android needs to free up some space for more memory intensive apps, it will close the least important services that are running (some services will not be closed, Home app, etc.).
That's it in a nutshell. It's probably a lot more complicated than that though
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You hit the nail on the head there!
Android has no need to fully exit applications. When you close them they remain idle so switching back to them is much quicker. If Android needs to free up some space for more memory intensive apps, it will close the least important services that are running (some services will not be closed, Home app, etc.).
That's it in a nutshell. It's probably a lot more complicated than that though
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Yeah i read up on it in that article explaining why not to use task killers, Thanks for that short and wonderful explanation.
iam on axura rom for captivate
my problem is that applications always run in background..i use advanced task killer to close those apps and again they start..whenever i open the advanced task killer i see them..actually some apps like dungeon hunter also running in background i dont understand why...can someone tell me how to take care of this problem???
Are you pressing the back button to close them when exiting or the home button?
smackdownn said:
iam on axura rom for captivate
my problem is that applications always run in background..i use advanced task killer to close those apps and again they start..whenever i open the advanced task killer i see them..actually some apps like dungeon hunter also running in background i dont understand why...can someone tell me how to take care of this problem???
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Looks like android "pre-fetches" most frequently used apps into memory for quick access when u use them. They are loaded into memory, but CPU is not used. They are just loaded and kept. What's the point in keeping RAM free when it can't speed up system. So upto some amount, I don't know to what level though, apps are loaded into memory. And if u notice, u'll find RAM free like about 70-80MB all the time. This is what atleast I have personally observed.
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Are you pressing the back button to close them when exiting or the home button?
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iam pressing the back button only please help me solve this problem..and always that damn gmail app is open i background also...it starts like evry 5 mins i think and stays there forever..
diablo009 said:
Looks like android "pre-fetches" most frequently used apps into memory for quick access when u use them. They are loaded into memory, but CPU is not used. They are just loaded and kept. What's the point in keeping RAM free when it can't speed up system. So upto some amount, I don't know to what level though, apps are loaded into memory. And if u notice, u'll find RAM free like about 70-80MB all the time. This is what atleast I have personally observed.
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ok so is this common?? and also i dont understand why dungeon hunter is there in advanced task killer...it is not some email or sm chat application..i close it..it starts at random time..do u mean these programs are not actually running?
and hey does beautiful widgets take a lotta battery?
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ok so is this common?? and also i dont understand why dungeon hunter is there in advanced task killer...it is not some email or sm chat application..i close it..it starts at random time..do u mean these programs are not actually running?
and hey does beautiful widgets take a lotta battery?
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I don't think they are necessarily running. They are kept in memory so next time the application is needed it will open more quickly. It shouldn't use any battery or CPU, the term RAM means Random Access Memory, so apps kept in RAM can just be accessed randomly.
Same is the issue in Galaxy S (GT-I9000) as well... I always see 13-15 background applications running... Although i am using Task Killer, but still these apps start running in background... I think it drains battery as well... Any idea how can we prevent starting the background apps ?
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Just because you "see" an app in atk or another task manager does not mean it is doing anything.
Use spare parts, system panel, power tutor.....anything that shows CPU/network usage and you will see what is happening rather than killing things off which turns into an endless cycle reminiscent of a game of whack-a-mole.
People seem to be going crazy thinking they have to clear and keep ram free. android does a good job of managing it for you. When apps are loaded in ram it is nota bad thing. It is not slowing your phone down or sucking your battery. If you are critically low on ram (less then 40mbs or so) then it is a problem. Would you pull a key off of your keyboard just because you are not using it? Its not hurting anything by being there
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so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.
What you are asking isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned. There is no other way to close applications other than using the force close button in settings. Android handles this itself -- if this doesn't satisfy you download a task manager.
I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.
modru2004 said:
so i found out how to force close apps under settings but theres gotta be a better way.
for example lets say i have browser, market, and facebook apps open. all showing under the window selection button. after time i get a ton of windows there and i don't want all of them open. how do i close them selectively without going through all the settings menu crud?
some apps let me close from within, most don't though and leave me stuck with a ton of windows (apps) open.
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There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.
I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?
atoy74 said:
There is no need to manually close out apps. Since 2.1, Android has done an excellent job managing memory. It's been written many times (some directly from Google) that micromanaging your apps will actually hurt battery performance. You'll essentially be working against the system as opposed to helping it.
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id like to point out thats NOT the issue.
the issue is the ton of windows you end up having to sort through unless you close them. its a quality of life thing, i don't like having unused unnecessary windows open that i have to sort through to get to the stuff i am using. its just bad form.
foldog22 said:
I am not sure if my task manager is working on this device. I use AutoKiller and when I killed task it doesn't appear as though anything closes. Can somebody confirm?
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It will most likely not work until its rewritten. The way 2.2 and now 3.0 allow access is completely different then 2.1 and below. Plus as said about 200 million task there is 0 reason to run a task killer. If you wanna clear them out, even though there is 0 reason, reboot.
Okay, I get the memory management issue, but as the OP pointed out, I've got all sorts of icons in the "task bar area" (bottom right hand corner) that just sit there or keep coming back.
For example, I haven't listened to any music on my Xoom since yesterday morning, yet I've got an icon down there for Music and Rhapsody. Also, there's no way to clear some notifications.
There's got to be a way to at least clear out the notification isn't there?
you tap on the little icon music for example and you will see a little x on the right of it, click that and it closes it from the notification system
There is absolutely no reason to use a task killer or manually kill tasks. 2.2, 2.3, 3.0, etc. handle memory and tasks extremely well. In many cases, task killers will only cost you more battery and more slowdowns than letting tasks just run out and sit in memory. Unless you're seeing rogue or malfunctioning tasks in the background causing slowdowns, there is no need to kill them.
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.
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I don't think there is a way yet.
What Google needs to do is make those preview windows in the multitasking bar long-pressable for a menu to be able to close them.
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While I haven't used a task manager since I started learning how android actually works last year when starting to make apps, I can't help but want the same thing in honeycomb for malfunctioning apps. I think google left it out intentionally to discourage task-killing rampages by oblivious users.
Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.
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Every time I read "you do not need to close apps" I want to scream. first hour of usage I had a second browser installed and it and the stock browser were conflicting with each other... all I wanted to do was a quick close of one of the browsers.
There are always a multitude of good reasons to want to close a background app. I completely understand the technical reasons why an app does not need to be closed, but from a user experience point of view, it should be made simple.
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Which is exactly why in my first post I said "...isn't necessary unless an application has malfunctioned" otherwise such a thing is barely necessary. And in your case, the classic "Settings > ....... > Force Close" would have easily sufficed.
So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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martonikaj said:
I do wish you could scroll through the recent running apps rather than only being able to access the latest 5, but spam closing background apps doesnt help at all.
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Oddly enough, if you turn to portrait, you get a few more. So, technically its not a hard limit on 5, but rather (literally) limited by space on the screen.
Anyone want to place a bet as to what rev we see scrollability?
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JanetPanic said:
So what you are saying is that a method to kill tasks is necessary, just not often. I, for instance, just had the xda app stuck on the splash screen. I killed it and restarted the app and all was good. There is a potential for harm if used over zealously but at times it would be nice if there was a more convenient way to close an app when necessary.
Applications do not always behave as they should so to say there is no need to kill am app is making a naive assumption that every android app is perfect.
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If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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If this happens use the built in task killer, settings/applications/running tab.
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I did and it worked. As I said it would be nice to have a more convenient way of force stopping apps that are not behaving.
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Closing apps isn't necessary for two reasons.
1. Android does a good job at managing apps on its own.
2. You have 1GB of RAM to work with.
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Watchdog does a considerable job since it only lets you know when an app is misbehaving. And since being on 2.3 its barely given me any alerts. Perhaps further proving the awesome memory management.
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Hey guys, I've just purchased a xoom and I feel a little lost regarding running apps, does honeycomb have a task manager like froyo and gingerbread?
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it is in the same place, Settings > Applications > Manage then tap on running.
Unless you have a custom rom that has a third party task killer/manager. It will look different.
Guys, Android does not need a task manager. The only reason you may need to force an app to close is if it's hung and then as BP has rightly said above, you can do this within settings.
Please please please don't install FUD applications like advanced task manager, Android handles this far better than these programs can.
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Guys, Android does not need a task manager. The only reason you may need to force an app to close is if it's hung and then as BP has rightly said above, you can do this within settings.
Please please please don't install FUD applications like advanced task manager, Android handles this far better than these programs can.
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I agree Android for the most part doesn't need a task manager. I do believe though that the OP was talking about the built in task manager on some phones that you get when you longpress the home button...
And furthermore, I believe honeycomb has no need for even a longpress home button task manager.
I thought it did at first, but somehow it doesn't seem like it does. Maybe its a result of its true multi-tasking abilities idk.
vamp6x6x6x said:
I agree Android for the most part doesn't need a task manager. I do believe though that the OP was talking about the built in task manager on some phones that you get when you longpress the home button...
And furthermore, I believe honeycomb has no need for even a longpress home button task manager.
I thought it did at first, but somehow it doesn't seem like it does. Maybe its a result of its true multi-tasking abilities idk.
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Yes, this was the reason I asked.
But I've noticed the apps don't stay in the running services even if I just press the home key (mostly) ....wierd'... but GREAT
Loving my xoom guys, only got it today and its fun fun fun.
The speed of honeycomb and the tablet itself is awesome, only lag I see is opening the apps section at the top right of the screen, I'm sure they could make that animation smoother - however, the rest is sooo fast I can overlook this.
Updated to 3.1 just 15mins after first boot up, all wirelessly.
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Maybe I'm not completely understanding....If I go to Setings > Applications > Running Services, it doesn't show everything that is running. I would like to completely close some programs out after I'm done using them to conserve battery life. I downloaded a task killer app called SystemPanel Lite. To give an example, after I'm done playing Words with Friends, I would like it to close completely. And yet, it runs in the background instead. This does not show in the Running Services menu in Settings. But it does show up in SystemPanel. And if I watch it, it -does- use CPU periodically which would decrease battery life.
There are four sections in the SystemPanel Lite. Active, Service Only, Inactive (cached) and Internal System. All of these are pretty self explanitory to me except the Inactive (Cached) one. Again, Words with Friends does not show in the Running Services section and I assume it is because it is not a service (at least SystemPanel says its not...it lists it as active).
Could someone please explain to me how to close applications (perhaps I'm not doing it correctly) or where I can go to exit them completely if there is a way to do so without third party apps.....and what exactly is the Inactive (Cached) and how does it differ from the other 3 sections?
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Maybe I'm not completely understanding....If I go to Setings > Applications > Running Services, it doesn't show everything that is running. I would like to completely close some programs out after I'm done using them to conserve battery life. I downloaded a task killer app called SystemPanel Lite. To give an example, after I'm done playing Words with Friends, I would like it to close completely. And yet, it runs in the background instead. This does not show in the Running Services menu in Settings. But it does show up in SystemPanel. And if I watch it, it -does- use CPU periodically which would decrease battery life.
There are four sections in the SystemPanel Lite. Active, Service Only, Inactive (cached) and Internal System. All of these are pretty self explanitory to me except the Inactive (Cached) one. Again, Words with Friends does not show in the Running Services section and I assume it is because it is not a service (at least SystemPanel says its not...it lists it as active).
Could someone please explain to me how to close applications (perhaps I'm not doing it correctly) or where I can go to exit them completely if there is a way to do so without third party apps.....and what exactly is the Inactive (Cached) and how does it differ from the other 3 sections?
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What you are seeing is what's running. If you hit menu, cached you will see things that are open but NOT running. They do not effect battery life.
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