Slow input method change.. - JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading

Hi guys, i've got a problem when i try to change input method on my xda neo, it appears the list after i tap the arrow for bout 5sec, few days ago the list just came up as soon as i tap the arrow..
can any1 tell me how to fix it?
waitin for help..

zerocul said:
Hi guys, i've got a problem when i try to change input method on my xda neo, it appears the list after i tap the arrow for bout 5sec, few days ago the list just came up as soon as i tap the arrow..
can any1 tell me how to fix it?
waitin for help..
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This is normal

well, base on 3 years use of windows mobile, i dont think this is normal, and it worked fine few days ago, all i want is to get back to normal state.. how irritating is it if u wanna change an input method but u have to wait 5 to 7 sec everytime..

zerocul said:
well, base on 3 years use of windows mobile, i dont think this is normal, and it worked fine few days ago, all i want is to get back to normal state.. how irritating is it if u wanna change an input method but u have to wait 5 to 7 sec everytime..
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According to my 4years experience of using windows mobile. It is normal.

according to my 1day expriences
just backup your registry and restore
u will see it working as normal as master reset perform
this is due to third party software that cause it slow down
too much SIP on your pda

One of these 3rd party softwares that cause SIP change to slow down on WM5 is Microsoft Voice Command. Backing up and restoring the registry usually fixes this problem, but in some cases the actual 3rd party software that caused the problem would not work well after the registry restore.
On the Dopod 2.15 ROM with SPB Mobile Shell, TCPMP and Resco Media Suite installed, the SIP menu pops up as soon as I hit the arrow

Yes, MS Voice command is the main culprit. So, I do a full reg backup before I install it, and then restore it immediately after.

This is because MVC ver 1.5 does not officially support WM5. MVC 1.6 does not have this issue on WM6 Crossbow.

scott4 said:
According to my 4years experience of using windows mobile. It is normal.
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well, you'll enjoy it even better when you'll get a *normal* device

I traced this to voice command 1.5 way back. Waited for a year for 1.6 to come out.. had to pay another $10 for the upgrade!! grrr.
And it still didn't fix it.
I'm planning to wipe and reinstall everything soon so it might be ok then.
It's definitely not normal.

I agree, this is not normal.
The pop-up menu should be instantaneous.
After installing Resco Keyboard and Voice Command the menu became slow to appear.
Both are now uninstalled but the problem remains.
Must be something wrong in the registry.

lastnikita said:
well, you'll enjoy it even better when you'll get a *normal* device
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lastnikita, i agree with u.. scott4, mayb yr device is alr abnormal in the first place, that's y u don't find the slow input change abnormal, and it's very lonely to use such device for 4 years.
By the way guys, I've just updated wm6 2 days ago, initially the input method change worked fine, bt after i installed CE-Star and phone pad, not immediately,about a day l8r,it starts to get slow just as what happened to me with wm5. I did the backup and restoration as Tabbe mentioned, it did helped, reduce to about 1.5 sec.
And the Ms Voice Command with wm6 is v1.6, so i don't really think it's MVC's problem (correct me if i'm wrong).
What's strange is, (when i was using wm5), after i installed ce-star(phonepad's alr there) the input method didnt slow down at all. The only thing i remember before it started to get slow is, i installed mem-maid, and i did a clean up, including bad reg, after that, it got slow.. so could it be some reg issue that contribute to the problem?

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Treo 750v WM6 crash problem

Hi guys
i have been using treo 750v for about 3 weeks, I updated it with the wm6 rom provided by vodafone on the first day I got the device, it works at first quite smooth, in the first week I haven't had any crashes. Then as I installed more programs, it beginns to sporadically crash (or freezing), so I did a hard reset.
Then I installed less softwares (15-20) than I did before, at first it seems ok, but a few days later it beginn to crash again, mostly when on cradle, when I leaved it on cradle for a while and check again, the system has already been freezed, cant do a thing with it but reset. sometimes it crashes after I removed it from the cradle. yesterday I tried to open a lot of programs to fill the ram, as I want to see how many programms it can run before it gets slow, and it freezed when it had about 13Mb ram left after I opened a application. Another occasion as i remember is when I took it out of the pocket and was about to unlock it, it does not react, reset again...
Well I konw it is problably the 3rd party softwares that cause the system unsteady, but I bought this smartphone for the purpose of installing softwares on it and If I only use those preinstalled software, than what's the point of buying a smart phone. I have previously also used a HTC Wizard for about 2 month, I also had a lot of softwares on it but as I remember it does not crash as offen as this treo 750.
I just want to ask the other treo 750 users out there, are u experiencing the same problem? or is it possible my device or this wm6 version I installed is not steady? what I can do?
Well I know there is one thing I can do, exchange it to a treo 680, but I really like the 750.....
That such since I want to comment that I spend(pass) the same thing to my myself, does one love that this haci in ocaciones this one well and in others the screen freezes.
And villain qes that not if it(he,she) was for that me key or other one is that he(she) installs the skin swiht of spbmobileshell very well certainly but since then freezes also I did to him(her) hard reset and equal this one and not that to do...
Regards.
I have the same problem, today im gone to send back the phone to the store, i made 2 hard resets, but the problem persist, i have problem with the phone calls too, i just recive a missed call notification or rings 1 time, i hate this phone really!!!

Help my camera isn't starting anymore!

I'd tryied to hold camera button and from programs menu but both wont work. What can I do? Please can someone help me out?
First off try a soft reset, poke the stylus in the reset hole for a second or two, you won't loose any information or applications trying this, switch the unit back on and try again from the hardware button and/ or the Start/ Programs/ Camera icon
If the above didn't fix it try a hard reset, this will wipe the device back to the same configuration it was when you got it - you WILL LOOSE data doing this - Mike
Thanks for the rep. but,
I did hard reset and it still wont start. AND NOW the camera icon isn't even in the program folder anymore?! help!
Please, anybody?
n8gk said:
Thanks for the rep. but,
I did hard reset and it still wont start. AND NOW the camera icon isn't even in the program folder anymore?! help!
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This is NOT possible if you hardreset. Hardreset again and try. If it still doesnt work, your unit is most probably defective and you'll have to exchange/send in for repair it.
Just to be sure: You use the erase memory tool in the control panel and had to enter "1234" and then click yes, right?
Yes, I used the erase memory tool
I have itself problem, the reset (soft) don't resolve. Sometimes the camera starting, but frequently NO.
Sorry for my english.
i had the same problem ad now its suddenly working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=309967
someone has had the same problem with the trinity
I called support, they told me to send it.
same problem
Hi tittula,
have you send it? I have the same problem, so please keep us informed with the progress...
I sent it and now I am waiting
Same problem
I have the same problem
I'm Trying yet to solve
Looking at the camera launching process, I've found a link like:
_camera.lnk
that contains:
21#"\Windows\Camera.exe" ?CameraRc_Grey.dll,-1106
any idea if that is normal content, looks curious for a link especially the interrogation point mark?
What about the -1106 figure ?
Is it possible that this link being corrupted ?
If yes how to modifiy it, seems a ROM file
Any help welcomed
same problem here,
sometimes cam will work but it to often will not. :/
sure ift the cam even dont in factory default config (hard reset) it is broken.
I got longest working duration in factory default, approx one to two weeks.
using third party binaries the failure appears randomly.
Im pretty sure this is a software issue, else a soft rest wont fix it, eh ?!
workaround:
one but very poor solution is, once the cam starts, _never_ quit it, just minimize.
yep, I know ... but the only way I found atm.
Same problem
I have got no news about cam.
I called htc support, they told me to install a fix for camera that I found in htc e-club.
But that fix is not for our problems, is for camera quality.
I installed it but the problem still remain.
Sometimes it goes, sometimes no...
Edit/Delete Message
same problem here. thank you for HTC reply
A solution is to take the pda off without the battery for some minutes...
After that the cam works...
But for also some time... then It goes down again...
I've been having the same problems with the camera.
"Camera" doesn't appear in Programs but "Camera album" does.
When i use file explorer to go to the .exe file and i tap it, nothing happens.
EDIT: i've just used file explorer to go to the windows directory en what do I see: now i have two camera executables (but not one of them reacts)
In file explorer i see this:
Camera 11/12/07 733K
camera.exe.0409.mui 11/12/07 28,9K
camera 11/12/07 35,2K (with Opera icon, i think it's the help file)
camera 18/06/07 35B
CameraRc_Grey.dll 11/12/07 398K
I've never seen the last two files
Hello
i´ve got this Problem nearly three weeks. I´ve installed a new rom and Nadavi camera. Nothing turn the Camera Problem. Sometimes it works sometimes not. I´ve got the idea that the Software that is installed on the device cause the Problem. When i want to send a mms from the camera the camera strikes after that. When i used Mobile Navigator 5.0 the Camera strike again.
I don´t have an exactly answer for the Problem but i´m pissed of!!!! HTC can´t help already
Greetigs Aragorn
P.S. hope you understand my bad english
I sent the pda to htc support...
I have to call them on 15th june.
When I'll have news I will tell you
Bye

Problem: Polaris set back itself to delivery-state!

Yesterday, my Polaris with original HTC WM 6.1 set back itself to the delivery state. When I where at work, I wondered, because the battery was suddenly empty. I have charged it on Sunday.
After I have begun to recharge it for a short time, I switched it on. The Polaris told me to calibrate the touchscreen. After it, It started with the assistant for first steps of WM. I canceled it and then I where on the Home Screen. The HTC Home and the Plugin for G-Alarm where lost. When I tried to start a program I have installed some time before, it hadn’t worked. All programs I had installed for my self, seemed to be lost. When I tried to start them, there comes the failure like comes when I’ll install them (the program is from an unknown developer…; I don’t know the text in English exactly, because it is in German on my Polaris) All the SMS where lost and the Plugins on the Program Tab of the HTC Home and the Phone numbers in the Cube where also lost.
All seemed that the Polaris is in delivery state, but the installed programs where still in the list of programs in settings of WM.
The last way for me was to install the ROM now onto the phone. After I’ve installed it new today, WM 6.1 again, all worked very well and I’ve installed some programs like finger menu etc. new. After one restart while an installation, the problem comes again. The whole Phone seemed to be in delivery state. The only change is now, that the phone-program of the Polaris in WM doesn’t work anymore. When I click onto the telephone receiver- picture in WM, nothing happened. Earlier the screen comes, where I have to input my pin-number.
Have anybody an idea, why the mistake happened and what I can do to repair it? Is it a soft- or hardware mistake? I have no Idea what I could do to repair it. The last way I could do is to send it to the dealer where I’ve bought it, because I’m still in guarantee-time, or has anybody an idea, how I can repair the software without send it back for repair?
Regards from Germany,
Robert
Robert,
Get that phone right back to the SUpplier, as its clearly hardware issue. You have tried to re-flash with original 6.1 which was succesful.
btw just curious, did you try using the phone standard without adding new apps for a few days just to see if it was stable or not?
Might be a good idea to do this, just so u can be sure its not a software clash.
Thanks for your fast answer, timmymarsh!!
I've only tried the phone a few minutes without any apps. Then I installed only 4 or 5 small apps, which I've used before I had the first problems on monday over a long time.
This day I watched onto the invoice of the phone. I bought it last year at the end of April. So I will send it as fast as possible to the supplier, that I won't loose my garantee.
After your post I'm pretty sure, that it should be a hardware issue.
If I had a longer rest of the garantee time, I would try it without apps some days, but in this case I'll play safe...
have just had exactly the same problem only have been using the udk syrius r7 rom for last few months, turned phone off while in work and on turning back on losing all contacts etc. have tried reflashing with r8 beta & had same problem have now flashed 3lit3-VI rom and seems 2 b ok now.
MacGaiser said:
Yesterday, my Polaris with original HTC WM 6.1 set back itself to the delivery state. When I where at work, I wondered, because the battery was suddenly empty. I have charged it on Sunday.
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the indications given looks like due to the battery was drained, so you will lose all applications been installed as well as data and information on the ram (sdcard will survive). in worst cases, your device will stay on bootloader mode, will not loading the rom, though hard reset when battery full can resolve the situation.
Unless you can find hardware related reason to draining your battery higher than normal, no i dont think it is hardware related.

Help! Problem with windows mobile 6.5

I am repeatedly facing the following problem.
When a call arrives, the contact pops up on the screen almost immediately, but it takes around 5 or 6 rings from the callers end for me to hear the ring on my phone.
Eg. You call me and i will see your name on my screen but it will seem for you as if i picked your call only after 6 rings, but only then my phone rings!! HELP me a lot of people are complaining that i am not picking the call immediately due to this...
Never faced this problem in wm 6.1 or earlier versions.
Somebody kindly assist me
Thanks in advance.
Hi !
I had the same problem. I think it happened when the screen was locked.
It got better after upgrading to a 23001 build.
Which build do you have on your phone?
greetz
Hi flushbeer! Thank you very much for your prompt response! Appreciate it.
I am using [July 4th][PDACorner] Ultimate-X2.V5 -23001|M2D|CHome|Enhanced Version
I even tried TPC Elite prior to that!
And yes u r right i think it happens when screen is locked. Even otherwise i think it happens.
Am using the 23001.x build only!
Thanks again buddy!
Weird... I use the same ROM and this is the FIRST ROM where I don't have this problem.
(I tried many 6.5 ROMs before and with all of them I had this Problem)
greetz
Sorry guys please read the rules, if you have problems post on the threads where you get your ROMs
Mods, please close this thread
sorry guy...
but i don't think this problem ist rom related.
in my opinion it ist build-related and therefore a more or less generic problem.
but it's not my thread anyhow
Hey it aint fair, nobody answers my question anywhere (( If only anyone can answer this.
Maybe it's becoz you are running some software that is not compatible with WM65. Like some builds of MS Voice Command. But you have to sort it out by yourself.
Edit: The way to find problem apps for your ROM:
Backup all your data;
Hard reset;
Install your apps one by one;
Every time after installed a new soft, soft reset, and check the problem occurs or not, if not, install next one, soft reset and check again, until you got the problem occured again.
Then you know it's the last installed app crashes with something. (Maybe not crash with the ROM, but other apps installed before it. To sort this out, you have to change the sequence of cab install and test again. For example, after already know the probs app, hard reset and only install this see what happen.)
What if you did not find it until installed last app? Congratulations, you already solved the problem.
This is the most foolish(time consuming) way, but it works on most cases for probs sorting.
Edit2: BTW, last time when I have similiar probs as yours, by using above-mentioned method, I sorted it out that it was caused by MSVC. (Edit3: Also if my memory is still correct, another badass for WM6.5 maybe the WM6.5 lockscreen,)
What radio are you using? Did you change radios and see if that makes a difference?

[Q] Internet Explorer problem

Hi everyone,
I have a problem with Internet Explorer on my HD7
Since yesterday, Internet Explorer refuses to open from the start screen or Apps list. Clicking on web links in emails does not work, clicking on pinned web pages does not work. Live tiles, Emails, RSS feeds, texts, Phone calls etc. work as expected. I have downloaded several third party browsers which work as expected.
I have checked using 3G and Wifi connections, and soft reset multiple times to no avail
I have searched and have not seen anyone else reporting this problem which leads me to suspect it's a device specific software problem. I was following my normal morning routine yesterday, reading the emails with new and updated posts from XDA when it suddenly stopped opening the links in the emails. I tried opening up Internet Explorer and this too failed. The animation transition starts to take place when pushing the I.E. tile, and then it comes back to the start screen.
I am running 7720 and have not played around with the phone or changed anything to cause this problem.
Does anyone have any suggestions or thoughts before I go ahead and press the "Reset your phone" button ??
Thanks in advance,
Garrickus
Work around
Hi,
Got the same problem with no available solution till now.
I just have a workaround for you, disable in settings the "open links in new tab" and you should be able to use IE9 again afterwards.
Tabs will not work though.
I even read somewhere that hard reseting device will not solve the problem !!??
Do it or not and tell me if you find something.
Regards,
Thomas
Thanks
tlefeuvre said:
Hi,
Got the same problem with no available solution till now.
I just have a workaround for you, disable in settings the "open links in new tab" and you should be able to use IE9 again afterwards.
Tabs will not work though.
I even read somewhere that hard reseting device will not solve the problem !!??
Do it or not and tell me if you find something.
Regards,
Thomas
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Thanks Thomas
I can confirm your solution does indeed work as you describe, and yes, tabs are now broken
I'm curious as to your firmware version and operator, as there may be a link ?
You say you read "somewhere" that hard resetting the phone doesn't fix the problem , (I haven't as yet done so myself, as I'm currently compiling word docs of Internet Explorer favourites etc. and uploading them to Skydrive so I can restore them later ) which implies someone else has also encountered this problem ?
If a hard reset doesn't work for me (I'm waiting on the weekend to do this as it'll probably take hours ) then I'm seriously thinking of upgrading the sdhc card to a 32gb one and flashing a custom rom
I'll keep you updated.
And once again, thank you for taking the time to reply , with well over a hundred views, I was beginning to think I was invisible
Garrickus
i would flash a custom rom (you have the requirements), its easy to do (just search for it) and the advantages of it are great. you would never want to go back to an official rom again.
I haven't heard of this problem before, and don't have a direct fix - I'd need to examine your phones in some detail to do so.
However, if you have a full-unlocked phone, or you have WP7 Root Tools, I'm releasing an app that can configure your phone to use a third-party app as the default beowser (on my phone, I'm currently using IE+, for example). There are some caveats - not all browsers will be supported, and not all of IE's features work on third-party browsers - but it should work to let you open links sent in emails or SMS or apps. They have tabs too (in fact, IE+ has better tab management than IE9; one reason I use it).
Glad to see it partially solved your problem ;-)
My device is a Samsung Omnia 7 with latest firmware and mango installed (do not have the disapearing keyboard fix).
I suspect either windowbreak interop unlock method or windows phone manager to be the culprit with our tabs problem. Are you interop unlocked ? Have you installed Windows Phone Manager ? Have you sideloaded any app ?
Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
Thanks
GoodDayToDie said:
I haven't heard of this problem before, and don't have a direct fix - I'd need to examine your phones in some detail to do so.
However, if you have a full-unlocked phone, or you have WP7 Root Tools, I'm releasing an app that can configure your phone to use a third-party app as the default beowser (on my phone, I'm currently using IE+, for example). There are some caveats - not all browsers will be supported, and not all of IE's features work on third-party browsers - but it should work to let you open links sent in emails or SMS or apps. They have tabs too (in fact, IE+ has better tab management than IE9; one reason I use it).
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Funnily enough, I hadn't heard of this problem either, before it manifested itself on my phone so it can't be widespread.
I'd love to allow you (you Windows Phone Guru ) access to my phone, if it would help me and the community, but, it's my main device and your too far away to visit
I have a stock phone so I doubt there is any kind of dump or something I can do to provide more clarification on the problem, but it's very real and very annoying
I had a quick search for "IE+" in the marketplace, but didn't see it. Could you provide a link please ? Or did you sideload it ?
If the hard reset doesn't work, my carrier has said they will swop it out for a refurbished unit, so I have a couple of options.
If I get my act together by the weekend, I might upload a video of the problem to YouTube for information purposes.
Also, my phone has been exhibiting some strangeness for a while now. Occasionally freezing up, then unfreezing itself. Internet Explorer freezing when the loading bar reaches 4/5's distance, and taking ages to finish loading. Some tiles (third party only) losing their images but not the text, or backing out of an app to the Start screen resulting in all the tiles being empty for a few seconds before filling in. Start screen flashing green and crackly looking. None of them particularly bothered me too much till now.
I'll keep you all posted.
Garrickus
Thanks
tlefeuvre said:
Glad to see it partially solved your problem ;-)
My device is a Samsung Omnia 7 with latest firmware and mango installed (do not have the disapearing keyboard fix).
I suspect either windowbreak interop unlock method or windows phone manager to be the culprit with our tabs problem. Are you interop unlocked ? Have you installed Windows Phone Manager ? Have you sideloaded any app ?
Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
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Yes, thank you. I was beginning to go mad with it lol.
I too am running Mango without the disappearing keyboard fix, but I am not windows broken, iterop or any other kind of unlock, or used any kind of programs other than Zune, so we don't have that in common I'm afraid.
Thanks anyway
Garrickus
IE+ is being published to the Marketplace this week, I think. There's a pre-release build of it available on this forum, but I'm not sure if that version supports the required behavior for be-the-default-browser support. I'm looking at other apps too (requires decompiling them, unless I can get a chance to talk to the developer, but that's usually easy).
However, if your phone isn't interop-unlocked, you wouldn't be able to use the switcher anyhow, though. It requires TCB (or "root") permissions, because it needs to write to the registry. It's possible to interop-unlock your phone (I have an HD7 myself), but you'd need to downgrade the firmware first.
The list of bugs you're experienced sounds like it *might* actually be some kind of defective hardware. The usual problem is the internal microSD card that is used for storage on the phone being defective or coming loose. There are a few other possibilities too, though. Unfortunately, trying to fix them yourself is likely to void your warranty, with no guarantee of success.
Video uploaded to Youtube
Hi all,
So my problem persists, and I am due to hard reset the phone to see if that solves the issue in the next couple of days. Before I do so however, I have uploaded a video showing the problem to Youtube for information purposes.
Lets see if anyone else is having the same problem, and if a solution exists.
Here's the link to the video
http://youtu.be/L0YIkCybvhg
If the hard reset doesn't work, my carrier have said they will swop the unit for a refurbished one. Does anyone have any experiences of this ? Are they like new ? Or beaten up a bit ?
Regards
Garrickus
More people reporting the problem on Microsoft answers forum
Hi everyone,
I checked the Microsoft answers forum and it seems Others are reporting the issue as well
I counted at least half a dozen posts with the same problem as myself here
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...one&CurrentScope.Filter=&askingquestion=false
So far, the only advice offered is to hard reset the phone, with some users reporting this solved their issue. One user reported that although it solved their issue, now their phone tile doesn't work
Regards
Garrickus
After hard reset
Hey everyone,
So I hard reset my phone on Thursday
and as a result, Internet Explorer now works again as it should
I decided not to restore a backup, and set up the phone manually (which took about 3 hours ).
A couple of things I've noticed since -
Battery life seems massively improved , now reporting over a days use on a full battery. I'll keep an eye on this as before I was only getting about 14 hours.
Another thing I've noticed is the keyboard. Now when I type, it highlights the word it thinks I want to use in bold, and it definitely didn't do that before
I'll keep you all posted on how things go over the next couple of weeks, if any of the problems I reported show up again, but, fingers crossed, it's all good for now, and loving my phone again.
Thanks for all your input.
Garrickus
Have a question... Does Hard resetting the device keep the os updates ?? (Mango, etc..) Or do you have to apply them again afterwards ?
Thanks for your answer
Thomas
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tlefeuvre said:
Have a question... Does Hard resetting the device keep the os updates ?? (Mango, etc..) Or do you have to apply them again afterwards ?
Thanks for your answer
Thomas
Sent from my OMNIA7 using Board Express
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Yes it does.
Thanks !! Another and last question, does hard resetting keep the phone windowbreak interop unlocked ?
Sent from my MID74C using XDA
Too bad. I have this problem too. Last night after connect to public wi-fi and enter username & password in automatic IE pop-up.
You can't open IE if your setting of "Open links from other apps in" is "A new tab". If change this settings to "The current tab" you can open multi-IE for multi-tab but can't use normal tab.
I think I will HR my device too.
tlefeuvre said:
Thanks !! Another and last question, does hard resetting keep the phone windowbreak interop unlocked ?
Sent from my MID74C using XDA
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No, interop unlocked will go away.
I am facing similar issue. I guess I know when it started (but not sure about it)
I had opened Google Search app. I was searching some images. In results displayed, I clicked 1 imgage. It opened Internet Explorer. When I tried to open "Tab" from Menu to close tab and exit IE, IE was simply not getting close and it was opening continously. I finally pressed Power button to switch off phone. After phone was restarted, I observed that while internet explorer is open and I open the tabs, it shows absolutely nothing, it doesn't show the tab for the page that is currently open or none of the other tabs that are open. Rather it shows Blank page with symbol to add new tab. But even new tab is not getting added. I tried several reboot on phone but somehow "Tab" thing is broken. I am also having feeling that Internet Explorer running in the backround that will not close even after a restart.
I dont want to Hard Rest Phone, but I think its only Solution for now. Hope MS fix this issue in WP7.8.

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