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Imate SP5 - first timer questions

Hello, first post here - hope I'm in the right place!
I've ordered an Imate SP5 and it should be arriving Monday or Tuesday. I was hoping to have some stuff ready to install on it for when I got it.
What's the first thing I should do? Should I try and update it to the latest ROM that everyones talking about?
I'm very interested in the Wifi feature but I keep reading how people are being connected to GPRS by mistake. I hope to use both GPRS and WIFI but would really like a good way to switch between them - is there some tweaks I can put in place?
Wireless Networks - so I might be using my home network, and then my work one. Can the device store multiple profiles (passwords, ssids, etc) for the different networks so I can just select one? Or do I need a 3rd party app? Does such an app exist?
Things like MSN etc ... will they stay logged in via GPRS if I take a call or send a text? Will they stay logged in via Wifi if I take a call or send a text?
WM5 for PDAs and WM5 for smartphones - will the same applications work across them? Also, if it works on one WM5 smartphone, will it work on another?
Cheers for your time!

ciaran said:
Hello, first post here - hope I'm in the right place!
I've ordered an Imate SP5 and it should be arriving Monday or Tuesday. I was hoping to have some stuff ready to install on it for when I got it.
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Congrats!
What's the first thing I should do? Should I try and update it to the latest ROM that everyones talking about?
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There is no official ROM update for the SP5 - yet. Your phone will have the newest ROM already loaded. I believe there is a leaked one floating around out there, but unless you absolutely can't wait for push email I would say hold off until the official version.
I'm very interested in the Wifi feature but I keep reading how people are being connected to GPRS by mistake. I hope to use both GPRS and WIFI but would really like a good way to switch between them - is there some tweaks I can put in place?
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In my experience, if there is WiFi signal and you have connected properly (meaning entered the right network key, if applicable) the phone will always use WiFi and not try to connect to GPRS. In my experience this has worked flawlessly and I use WiFi a lot.
Wireless Networks - so I might be using my home network, and then my work one. Can the device store multiple profiles (passwords, ssids, etc) for the different networks so I can just select one? Or do I need a 3rd party app? Does such an app exist?
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Yes the phone supports multiple profiles.
Things like MSN etc ... will they stay logged in via GPRS if I take a call or send a text? Will they stay logged in via Wifi if I take a call or send a text?
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Using GPRS, no they will not necessarily stay connected if you take a call (not sure about texts). Using WiFi, yes, that connection remains open if you take a call.
WM5 for PDAs and WM5 for smartphones - will the same applications work across them? Also, if it works on one WM5 smartphone, will it work on another?
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In some cases this is true. For example, some have managed to install Skype for Pocket PC on Smartphones. The underlying operating system is the same, it's just the interface (touchscreen vs not) that is the key (but not only) difference. A tool called FakeCursor for smartphone supposedly allows one to simulate the pocket PC pen, however I have never tried it. Long story short: In most cases pocket pc software just isn't usable on smartphones. I'm not sure about the other way around.

Right, now that I have it I have more questions!
I'm having some issues connecting to my home wifi...
my router says:
WEP (Wired Equivalent Privacy)
WEP Encryption Type
128bit encryption
Select key generation method
Passphrase MYNETWORKKEY
Keys generated by this Passphrase:
Active
Transmit Key
Key 1: D5 CF 34 DD DB 94 3F 79 D4 A7 B4 44 B6
On my device I select:
Authentication open/shared (have tried both)
data encryption WEP
networkkey MYNETWORKKEY
It tells me the key is invalid?
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It only seems to work when I enter "D5 CF 34 DD DB 94 3F 79 D4 A7 B4 44 B6" and not when I enter "MYNETWORKKEY" ? Anyway around this ?

passphrases generate keys for different strengths of wep.
tkip encryption (which you'll need both ends) uses passphrases on their own, this may be a better option for you.
regardless the network key is saved as a profile for the aps you are using.

Will try that out later on - my routers being troublesome at the moment.
Is the Imate SP5 like a XDA in that you loose all your info when the battery goes? Or will it retain the data ?

It seems Word & Excel are missing from the SP5. From what I read they're on the SP5m ?
Anyway to get them on my device?

WiFi internet issue on WM6

I`ve got a T-Mobile MDA with WM6 and I cannot access the internet through WiFi. The access point that I connect to is working cause I am able to access the net fine on my laptop. I made sure that my network cards are set to connecte to the internet. I even did a softreset after I made the changes.
My internet explorer just sits there on locating. I am not sure if its just my WiFi card configured incorrectly within WM6 or if its a reg setting that isn't set right.
If anyone had this issue before and got it fixed let me know or give me some direction to start.. thanks in advance for your help.

This is a fairly common problem. For me disabling the Wireless G option in the registry did the trick:
Registry: HKLM\COMM\TNETWLN1\PARMS
Key: dot11SupportedRateMaskG
Value: 1

so I diabled it, soft restet, verified that the reg change sticked, which it did. I tried to access the net again with no go.

me too
I have the exact same problem.

Not much discussion about this
I tried the G fix. Didn't work. Funny thing. It started when I installed MB. Downgrading DIDN'T fix it.

Try setting the the Network Card to connect to "The Internet" instead of "Work"

they are set to that..

That actually worked for me. (The Internet instead of work fix) I also made sure that all the boxes for "Server assigned IP address were checked. I could have sworn I tried that already. I wonder if it will stay "fixed". I'm due for a soft reset...seems to be working. I've been thinking all along it was some stupid setting.

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they are set to that..
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check the change your dns to 4.2.2.1 and 4.2.2.2 this may fix your problem
R

Changing to Internet and setting the DNS doesn't seem to help. Funny thing is, GMail via Midlet Manager seems to work (maybe its doing GPRS?). But IE just spins at Locating...

wifi internet issue on wm6
although i have the older version of t-mobiles' mda (wm5), i had similar issues connecting to the net even it sees a lot of wireless aps. either i cannot hold a steady connection or cannot connect at all. the solution i had was changing the channel on my wireless ap and updating my mda's parameters for my local wireless security. now i can go to the web using my mda even with poor signal quality. It is possible that you have several wireless ap's at your location sharing the same channel. hopefully changing the channel solves your problem.

simple possible solution, but check the proxy settings? I know with cingular, many people had trouble browsing the internet due to the MediaNet proxy settings. they removed the proxy settings and everything was fine then.

There is a known issue with your rom your running...there has been a new release. check the MB thread and you will see a recent listing about a 6 and 4 mb page pool, the wifi has been fixed.
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Changing to Internet and setting the DNS doesn't seem to help. Funny thing is, GMail via Midlet Manager seems to work (maybe its doing GPRS?). But IE just spins at Locating...
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I have the original MB edition and I do not have any wireless problems. I know he had to fix the re-released versions as the wifi did not work with them initially, but I was unaware of a wifi problem with the initial release.

WIFI problem don't even see networks
Hey everybody, still loving this phone and its diversity, but have flashed this little piece of hardware with the mb 4mb/6mb wm6 rom only to find that WIFI can't even be turned on!. And yes I've downed the fixed versions from a certain forum. When I turn on WIFI, It just gives the symbol in the top straight away. It just can't find the networks. I even manually added a network, it then tries to find it, but simply can't. WEIRD hey.
Is there a solution for this problem, cause I really, like the look and feel of the wm6 roms over the wm5 roms.
bye all and thanks in advance for the kind replies.

Did you try using WiFiFoFum at all to see if it can find networks? I have not had any issues with WiFi with the Most Beautiful edition whatsoever. Only thing I notice is that when the machine first turns on or right after a soft reset that I need to click the comm manager icon for wifi twice before wifi will turn on. Otherwise it finds and connects to networks perfect.

Problem with MIE
i have no problem to connect to my homenetwork with WIFI, but i cannot access the internet with the internet explorer. but it works perfect with the opera browser!

hmmm..
It's weird...
I never access the internet with the internet explorer even my wifi was connected successfully while I brushed wm6 rom.
A miracle has happened Today.
I install a WIFI Device for WM5, that one is simple Chinese language.
I tried to turn on the wifi but not work.
Then I uninstall it -> restar....
Then I tried one more time to turn on wifi, ok, it's work to connect but still can't open the web page.
I check the wireless lan, switch the power save mode to best performance.
Then....I can open web page????
Wow~~ I don't know it work cause the wifi device change something or just swtich to best performance.
Maybe you guys can try.
(Sorry to reading my poor English)

thomas.iseli said:
i have no problem to connect to my homenetwork with WIFI, but i cannot access the internet with the internet explorer. but it works perfect with the opera browser!
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Same exact issue. Pocket IE doesn't work, Opera does. Did you figure it out or get it corrected yet?

oops, double-posted

App to close all conections - app to switch from wap to internet?

I hate to be a "sniper" and try to hit the so very small connection icon with my finger every time I want to close my active connections.
Wheen changing connections from wap to internet I have to navigate to several menus - absolutely idiotic - and by no means a one hand operation.
Can't anyone do something about it?

http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...nager&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

What am I missing?
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http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...nager&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Googled/ found/ installed end result is a can see WiFi yet "Data conection" is somewhere down below - if one should compare it to a rectangular 320x240 screen. Try scrolling but it does't work. Help kindly appreciated.

iberico said:
Googled/ found/ installed end result is a can see WiFi yet "Data conection" is somewhere down below - if one should compare it to a rectangular 320x240 screen. Try scrolling but it does't work. Help kindly appreciated.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1400090&postcount=838
Have you seen that one? I'll just check it out. 3G should be on screen.
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Only ActiveSync button is completly outside screen. I hadn't chance to test all features, but looks good.

To close data connection
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1400090&postcount=838
Have you seen that one? I'll just check it out. 3G should be on screen.
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Only ActiveSync button is completly outside screen. I hadn't chance to test all features, but looks good.
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Hi man and thank you for your help. Unfortunately this is not I was looking for as from the pictures attached the one shortcut that I need is missing i.e. "data connection". I am looking for a comm manager with at most 4 tabs like data conection, bluetooth, internet sharing, and wifi. Any customised version already on the forum?

Reviving this thread
Reviving this thread...
I have the same problem. Just trying out an LG KS20 - my first non-HTC device - and I'm surprised that the device can't close one connection (e.g. internet) before opening the other (e.g. WAP) on its own. My HTC devices used to manage that fine. KS20 needs manual close of the connection - anyone know how HTC devices manage that?
iberico said:
I am looking for a comm manager with at most 4 tabs like data conection, bluetooth, internet sharing, and wifi. Any customised version already on the forum?
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Not on the forum, but have a look at phoneAlarm from pocketmax.net. It's a today plugin that does hundreds of other things too (esp. manage phone profiles), but most skins for it offer buttons to (de)activate data connections, bluetooth (including visibility and A2DP toggles), WIFI, ActiveSync etc.
Have a look at the skins section and you'll see.
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Cannot connect to 802.1x PEAP MSCHAPv2 network

I cannot connect my AT&T Fuze to my work wireless network. This network requires the following settings:
Network Authentication: Open
Data Encryption: WEP (key is automatically provided)
Authentication: 802.1x Protected EAP (PEAP)
Inner Authentication: Secured password (EAP-MSCHAP v2)
Problem #1 - When I add the wireless network to the Wi-Fi settings, I select EAP type as "PEAP." I try to press the <Properties> button to set the inner authentication to MSCHAPv2, but receive an error message "Cannot log on to the network. This network requires a personal certificate to positively identify you." However this network does not require personal certificates.
Problem #2 - So I ignore that and press <Finish>. I am prompted for my credentials (username/password/domain). I enter them and press <OK>. No good. I am then repeatedly prompted for my credentials. [UPDATE: I just tried it for the 53rd time and just this once I was able to magically connect.]
I have read through many posts of similar complaints. I disabled server certification validatin by adding the ValidateServerCert value to the HKLM\Comm\EAP\Extension\25 key even though I have successfully installed the appropriate root certificate on the device. I also added the ValidateServerCert value to the \26 key just in case. I also set the wireless power mode to Best Performance.
What makes this particularly annoying is that I configured a coworkers iPhone to connect to the network. It was a giant pain because I had to install some sort of enterprise configuration software on a server and email her a mobile configuration profile from this application. Well the joke is on me because my WM6.1 phone cannot even connect.
Advice on what to do next? Thanks for your assistance.

I have the exact same problem... anybody found some sort of solution?
In case you still have the problem:
http://www.securew2.org/
Their program helped me overcome my issues with peap. Hope it works for you too
(taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284534&page=2 )

Thanks! Just how i tried - and too workng!

In case you still have the problem:
http://www.securew2.org/
Their program helped me overcome my issues with peap. Hope it works for you too
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I am the OP. I was looking at SecureW2 as a last resort, as I am generally opposed to installing 3rd party applications to perform what should be core OS functions. Too many potential issues down the road. Fortunately I overcame my problem #2 stated above. On a separate post, somebody captured network traffic and determined that credential request/response was getting out of sync b/c the access point was not allowing enough time to respond. So after entering credentials and checking the "Save" box, I just banged away on the <OK> button as fast as possible. Eventually I connected. At this point the credentials are cached so I immediately connect from then on. I have tried this on two different HTC Fuze devices to my company's 802.1x PEAP MSCHAPv2 wireless network and it works great.
I also verified that since I installed the proper root certificate on my Fuze, I do not need to disable certificate validation by changing the ValidateServerCert registry value.
So the Windows Mobile 6.1 networking has two problems that will hopefully be fixed in a future update to make this easier for everyone.

So all you do is hit the OK button as fast as possible?

just making short login ans password

So all you do is hit the OK button as fast as possible?
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Yes if you are experiencing problem #2 in the original post, repeated login prompts even though you know the credentials are correct.
just making short login ans password
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The length of the username and password do not matter. And most credentials used with corporate networks are subject to complexity rules so cannot be arbitrarily short.

I found another solution, well the It guys from my Uni did.
Apparently you just have to increase the Wifi power setting to max. Otherweise the phone cannot process the peap crypto processes as it is limited by power saving mode.
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/101f89b3-87fc-4cef-ac92-ece1aca9c12f/

i have the same problem. i dont understand how you overcame it

as0r: Changing the wifi power setting did not resolve problem #2 described in my original post, repeated login prompts.
jvar11889: How far did you make it, are you experiencing at problem #2 described in my original post, repeated login prompts? Is your required wifi configuration the same (802.1x PEAP MSCHAPv2)? I have succeeded on two different Fuzes, multiple times.

as0r said:
I have the exact same problem... anybody found some sort of solution?
In case you still have the problem:
http://www.securew2.org/
Their program helped me overcome my issues with peap. Hope it works for you too
(taken from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284534&page=2 )
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I used this solution and worked for me!
Tried all the other tips mentioned, like for example the "power trick", without any luck!
However i have just flashed my TP from stock norwegian ROM to ROMeOS, dont know if this had any influence, but sercurew2 did the trick!
Its not really a 3rd party software, more like and integration into windows mobile!
Follow the instalations and setup guide from the site!
And Thanks for posting this, i have tried to get it working for more than 2 weeks now

Its not really a 3rd party software, more like and integration into windows mobile!
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I disagree because the release notes clearly list the DLL's installed on your device. There is nothing inherently wrong with 3rd party software; I just like to reduce complexity by only installing additional software when I can't get what I want using the buillt-in features. If this was the only way I could connect to my 802.1x network, I would certainly install it.
I'm glad you are up and running. I have a hard time believing Microsoft is not aware of these problems. If they are serious about WM competing with iPhone and Android, Microsoft needs to jump on top of problems like this.

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I disagree because the release notes clearly list the DLL's installed on your device. There is nothing inherently wrong with 3rd party software; I just like to reduce complexity by only installing additional software when I can't get what I want using the buillt-in features. If this was the only way I could connect to my 802.1x network, I would certainly install it.
I'm glad you are up and running. I have a hard time believing Microsoft is not aware of these problems. If they are serious about WM competing with iPhone and Android, Microsoft needs to jump on top of problems like this.
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I agree with you! MS should do something about this! However, i talked to the EU HTC Support team, and they said a new ROM / Fimrware is due to be released end of February! Maybe there will be some kind of fix to this problem? Have heard that the HTC TP have some kind of problems installing certificates or something like that (havent read this myself, just heared it from someone working in a Cell Phone shop).
Hope you'll post here if you find a better solution!
Good luck!

zemlol said:
I used this solution and worked for me!
Tried all the other tips mentioned, like for example the "power trick", without any luck!
However i have just flashed my TP from stock norwegian ROM to ROMeOS, dont know if this had any influence, but sercurew2 did the trick!
Its not really a 3rd party software, more like and integration into windows mobile!
Follow the instalations and setup guide from the site!
And Thanks for posting this, i have tried to get it working for more than 2 weeks now
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I am glad it helped you, but it stopped working for me a couple of days ago. Would you mind posting your config?
Cheers

Try and go into the securew2 settings tab !
And check for "prompt for username and password" ?
It switches on and off sometimes!
What config info you want?

hi boys...
i have the same problem... I cant connect to wifi of my university because his used a protocol that not compatible of andoid...
this is the guide of my University for linux sistem...
Sicurezza wireless: WPA e WPA2 Enterprise
Autenticazione: EAP Protetto (PEAP)
Identita anonima : anonymous
Certificato della CA: (Nessuno)
Versione PEAP: Versione 0
Autenticazione interna: MSCHAPv2
utente : il proprio indirizzo di mail studenti (esempio [email protected])
Password: ( la password del servizio wifi inserita in fase di attivazione)
now the problem is that my liquid ask me only password, and only for this not possible to connect.
anyway help me...

Same here
i have the same issue as well. i have tried all kinds of solutions. adding the reg key, securw2, advanced config tool and many more but nothing has worked. i even flashed a new 6.5 rom and that didnt work either. my fellow techs have i-phones and they find this pretty funny so i would love to get it to work. I like htc and dont really want to go to iphone so hopefully someone out there has the solution that works.

Stop WinMobile establishing data-connections without asking

Hey mates!
First of all I wanna wish you a hapy new year
Ok, now to my question.
I've got a HTC Touch HD a week ago.
I recognized that it establishes a data-connection without asking me.
When i'm using Wifi - no problem.
But as I don't have a data-flat that gets quite expensive, if I can't use Wifi (most of the time no wifi available).
Is it possible to set up Winmobile so that it asks me BEFORE establishing an data connection?
I didn't find any solutions, google didn't help me, too.
Of yourse I could just change the adresses in the settings.
e.g- "internet.t-mobile.de" to "internet.t-mobile.deXXX" ---> no connection possible.
But i want to receive and send MMS at any time, so that would not be possible any more.
I hope you can help me, thx.
greetz

try nodata
this should do what you need....i think
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/

thx, but not really what i need.
With this programm i still have to close connections by hand.
I just want WinMobile to ask me BEFORE it establishes a connection.
For example: When I open an programm which tries to download something, a popup should appear
--->
Establish data-connection?
[ ]Yes
[ ] NO
I hope u understand my problem
greetz

No one with the same problem here and a solutuon?
greetz

*Hope pushing is allowed after 2 days*
greetz

I have the same problem with my Touch 3G (Jade). Turning the Data Connection off in the Main Touchflow settings tab helps but doesn't stop it completely. The worst thing is that doesn't seem to download anything but just connecting is enough to start costing.

I spoke to HTC today and they gave me a solution to this problem. Go to Settings, Connections, Connections, Advanced and then Select Networks. There you should find a drop down tab with something like ******GPRS, where ****** is your network. Now now choose New and create a new connection name like "No GPRS" for example. Click OK.
You now have a title but no settings so when you select this one, the phone can't connect to the internet. It might attempt to connect but it won't go through. Don't worry about MMS as this uses a different set of settings and works perfectly (for me).
Hope this helps, Woolly.

Find what apps are creating the connection so you can prevent it. Spb Monitor should be able to show you that.

Using Modaco NoData (link given above) will just do the same saving your time (you don't have to create a fake connection set).
What schlitzohr1812 wants is a way to make WM ask for permission to connect. I haven't heard of anything like this, but if you assign a shortcut to NoData it's almost as easy as what you are looking for. By the way, despite the name, NoData will prevent WM from opening connections, not only to exchange data over them.
Just remember that if you disable the connection while it is already open, you still have to close it manually. Also beware that if in your Comm Manager you have an enabled "Data connection" button (on some phones it's always disabled when the connection is closed, on others it can be used to open it), that button WILL open a connection even if they are disabled.

Thx for helping guys, but "Black Antitoon" is right.
That's not exactly what I was searching for but better than nothing.
I'm used to my old nokia phone (N70) which asked me before.
Incomprehensible why Windows Mobile does not have such an option...
greetz Timo

anybody wrote an app for this data permission yet please?