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Selling a contract handset..

Hi,
Just want to see if anyone has info on this.
I get my upgrade very soon and was thinking about getting the XDA 2i and reselling it on ebay. I wanted to check if this was legal under my contract? Bearing in mind I'm only selling the handset.
Just judging from how the XDA 2's rocketed on ebay with their release , thought might be able to cash in...
Thanks

I've done it loads of time, I always get bored of my phone before the 12months is up (18months in my MDAIII case), but its only been to friends, who are normally on the same network.
No doubt its against your T&Cs, but hey ho!

Dont tell them, as long as you keep your contract paid up there will be no problem, if you default on the contract they will probably block the imei of the phone.

Yeah.. I might just keep the phone myself lol or hangon for my upgrade a while longer.
tho i like thel ook of the SX1...

How much is an XDA2 going for on eBay these days??
Cheers
Anthony

Done it many many times.
Ive even check T's&C's they state any items that were aquired with the creation of the contract remain your property and will not anything to do with the network.
Sim cards however are the networks and can be recalled at any time

htc pro now avalible from vodafone

as titles just got an email,
http://www.vodafone-emailme.co.uk/vfemailme/process.do?action=digest&digest=1166301300&oid=107384161&location=http://www.vodafonebusinessshop.co.uk/index.cfm?fuseaction=Phones.productdetails%26prodid=3037%26WT.mc_id=EMAIL-110908-BuyNow-CLKHERE-HTCTchPr
seems expensive though and only avalible on buisness website

Try ordering one, I have and they dont have them in stock

churchwa said:
Try ordering one, I have and they dont have them in stock
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Thought you was on O2?

I am, but I have another upgrade on Vodafone waiting for me to use
Then it is just a matter of flashing it and hoping it is not sim locked. If it is then looks like I am going to have to pay a hefty fee on this forum to get it unlocked.
Now get back to your Stella induced slumber

I now have mine in hand.
The good news is that it is Sim Unlocked already. I just popped my O2 Sim in it and it worked straight away.
The bad news is that they have butchered the software. Anyone using it without flashing is going to think it is a pile of rubbish.
I am just waiting for it to charge before I Hardspl it and flash it.

Hi Churchwa,
So....How do you go about flashing the TD Pro?
I've got mine now (with the vodafone skinning) how do I get ride of it (the vodafone skin that is)?
Help please...

All details you need to flash your device and HARDSPL can be found in the wiki, and the rom development section of this forum.

Many thanks. I'll have a gander!

Hardspl worked like a treat.
Then I flashed it with the latest Asian WWE rom. Very very easy

Could you give a quick little tutorial on what needs to be done, this is my first windows mobile phone.
THANKS

churchwa said:
Hardspl worked like a treat.
Then I flashed it with the latest Asian WWE rom. Very very easy
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Why did you Flash it to an Asian ROM over a UK one?
What are the improvements over the Vodafone ROM
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A question to those of you who got it on Vodafone UK, have you got a registered business or something? I was going to order mine a bout 2 minutes ago, but its asking if im a sole trader\Ltd Company etc... or did you manage to get it without a connection to a business?

just ring the normal new connections number and ask for a touch pro, they should give you one straight away, thats all i did.
rang Thursday afternoon, was offered 600 mins unlimted txts and unlimited internet for 35 a month and got the phone for 20 pounds, not bad really, got delivered today (fri) about dinner time.
currently flashing it reception seems quite good with voda and they seem really efficient.

My local Vodafone store called to let me know they had the Touch Pro in stock and were willing to sell me one on a £35/month contract with net access but still wanted £100 up front, still a little steep.
I tried my luck calling in to Vodafone sales and was tole that the TP was only on a business contract if that helps.
D.

Thanks for the heads up, my brother in law (who has a business) has got his today and was told by Vodafone he can have a few extra lines, so i was going to get it that way if i cant get it direct, i know someone already stated that its not SIM Locked, but can anyone else confirm this too, although i'll be getting it on contract with VF UK, but i wont acually use that SIM, i'll be using a T-Mobile one and just want to make sure before i comit.

Hiya.. I have a small business and got this via my business contract. but as others have said you can get them on a consumer contract also.
Just Flashed mine with the 1.90 405.1 top get rid of all that Red Vodafone crap

Ordered!
Just thought i'd let everyone know, I've ordered the Touch Pro on Vodafone as a consumer and not business, so as stated by someone else earlier, you can get this without being a business. Not only that, the option i chose was "Best for texter" which, for £35 (including VAT), gives you 600 minutes and unlimited text messages (AUP says 3000 messages a month) and the guy on the phone said he'd give me the unlimited internet package too (500MB limit per month) and has the full HSDPA enabled ie 7.2 MPBS and the best bit of it all.... the phone was free
He said it should be with me Tuesday, so for me Chistmas has come early, just got to hope i can use my T-Mobile SIM without having to unlock it, i'll let you know as soon as i get it.

just to let people know, the phone i got from voda is unlocked, has my orange sim in it now.

RavenY2K3 said:
Just thought i'd let everyone know, I've ordered the Touch Pro on Vodafone as a consumer and not business, so as stated by someone else earlier, you can get this without being a business. Not only that, the option i chose was "Best for texter" which, for £35 (including VAT), gives you 600 minutes and unlimited text messages (AUP says 3000 messages a month) and the guy on the phone said he'd give me the unlimited internet package too (500MB limit per month) and has the full HSDPA enabled ie 7.2 MPBS and the best bit of it all.... the phone was free
He said it should be with me Tuesday, so for me Chistmas has come early, just got to hope i can use my T-Mobile SIM without having to unlock it, i'll let you know as soon as i get it.
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Is the full HSDPA enabled mean the little H that changes from H to 3G is that ?
Why does it keep changing, shall i set the H as default?

It only switches to H when you need it, (when streaming data) otherwise it just sits on 3G

Media net $10/mo

I know there was a thread earlier about this but I could not find it. Anyways ATT, Today has dropped their price to $10 a month. Now the only thread said you had to have family messaging and then manually change it to the $10 a month. I see if you upgrade to media net and messaging ( not family ) that it is $30 and not $35. On a couple ATT forums they say you have to call in and ask for the $10 a month with family messaging. Thought I'd put this out there again and confirm that it did happen, only it seems not as exactly planned. I'll update once I call in and try to get to $10 a month with family messaging.
This is for real and does work. Most reps do not know about it so you may have to talk to a supervisor or call back.
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i have 4 lines ..2 have pda plans and the other 2 had the media net unl for 15.00 and i just called and they changed mine to the 10.00 unl plan!!!! at first he acted like he did not know wat im talkin about...but he got it now.. so keep in mind if u call in and they dont kno wat u talkin about u can always hang up and call back .. i guess cuz its so new they have not found out about it yet.
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Just to let everyone know. I just got off the phone with CC and had my MEdia Net Unlimited changed to the new rate of $10/mo. YIPPEE!!! :smileyvery-happy:
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When I called, I told the rep what I had read on the ATT FORUM!! Mentioned that I am On HERE all the time!! He knew what I was talking about and said there were some prerequisites. Needless to say that I basically told HIM what they were, from what I have read, before he had the chance to tell me. Anyway, he was VERY nice and changed it!! That's $5 in my pocket every month! Thanks to the OP for posting this little tidbit of information!! :smileyhappy:
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Well my nice little Rep. just called me back and said it was all fixed up and I now have the $10 price.......they were SO nice but
next time I'll wait to call on a Monday. Thank you all for all you're help......DCookie.....we did it! :smileyvery-happy:
Link to ATT Forum confirming their quotes:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=12172&view=by_date_ascending&page=3
I've added an attachment of the online account that shows that it is downgraded in a bundle, but of course you can't bundle if you have family messaging unlimited.
Steps to get yours for $5 less:
1. Call and alert them of the deal
2. If they claim it does not exist, simply tell them you have friends that have got it and tell them to look at the Media Net Bundle which is $5 less.
3. Ask to talk to a supervisor.

I saw this.
AT&T burying MEdiaNet branding, dropping data plan prices?
Let us know when you talk to ATT if you can change it with a family talk messaging plan. I tried going onto my account online and I did not see an option to change to $10.

that is an awesome deal!!! the only thing i read though is specifically to the family plan. are there any new rumors as to whether or not the overall data plan would be cheaper for individual data plan like the (pda personal plan)? some other thread was suggesting $15 for medianet.
any thoughts?

I haven't yet called as I seem to misplaced or lost my little nokia phone that I use to get the Media Net. I will update once I call though.
This is an ATT Forum that people said they were able to get the cheap plan yesterday. They claim that most Reps from ATT are unaware of the new change and usually takes a little while to get them to change it.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=12172&view=by_date_ascending&page=2

This is only on non smart phones. This does not include pda phones or the iphone. I work for at&t.

Exactly...but you can use the IMEI from your non smart phones and make AT&T think you are using those phones. As a rep I can't believe you are unaware of this fact.

bartimeus said:
Exactly...but you can use the IMEI from your non smart phones and make AT&T think you are using those phones. As a rep I can't believe you are unaware of this fact.
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That is true, I forgot they ask for that when you call. Maybe I'll just give a friend a call who has a non pda phone and get that IMEI lol. Thanks.

If I swap SIMs, my online account shows the non-PDA phone and the option shows up but when I try to change it I get an error saying its not compatible with the phone/device on my account. I think I've read somewhere that there's a flag on the account showing that you've had a PDA phone so the only way to get it changed is to call.

Yeah calling is the only way you can get it changed.
Just be careful with the amount of internet you use because if you use quite a bit they will get suspicious.

Yeah they told me the same thing after I had bought my Fuze. I just had to provide the IMEI of the other device and they set it up for me. From my experience with ATT, ignorance works well. If I ever get caught with using my Fuze on this plan, I'll just tell them no one told me. I'll then start complaining that it is no different from having a regular phone or PDA, of course on PDA you will use more than a regular phone. But a regular phone is STILL unlimited, so theoretically you could use more than a PDA and there isn't anything wrong. I also throw in that I've been a customer for over 7 years ( maybe not that long but it's been a while lol ) before Cingular bought ATT, and ever since then paid my bill on time and usually have a positive balance of $50. They've never given me any problems after I make that fact clear and is a big reason why I've stayed with them.

Yeah. I always pull the card that(since I am on my parents plan) my mom retired from SBC before being bought by AT&T and worked their for 30 years and my dad is retired military and they have provided all internet/phone connections for our home for a very long time.
Works every time

I guess fuze users are short out of luck unless they happen to have a phone that is 3g usable.

mputtr said:
I guess fuze users are short out of luck unless they happen to have a phone that is 3g usable.
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I'm not sure it has to be a 3G phone to do this trick, I think it can be any phone ( Non PDA of course ). I had a little Nokia that was a pay per use one and I'm sure it wasn't 3G. Still worked. Do need to find the little guy though.

Hello all! No such luck here
I went online and it showed my phone as the FUZE so I switch my sim into a cheapo Motorola C168i-PAYG, I made a couple of calls and did some other things on this phone and eventually it did update online and showed the Motorola C168i-PAYG as my phone. I checked and it still showed my Data Unlimited as $15.00, so I dropped it and then readded it and sure enough it was still at $15.00. I called ATT and the rep I got ahold of said the same thing, the unlimited data was $15.00 and he didn't know anything about the $10.00 one...
so no such luck for me!
Good luck to everyone else, we'll see what happens :-\
Kewlj1313

Kewlj1313 said:
Hello all! No such luck here
I went online and it showed my phone as the FUZE so I switch my sim into a cheapo Motorola C168i-PAYG, I made a couple of calls and did some other things on this phone and eventually it did update online and showed the Motorola C168i-PAYG as my phone. I checked and it still showed my Data Unlimited as $15.00, so I dropped it and then readded it and sure enough it was still at $15.00. I called ATT and the rep I got ahold of said the same thing, the unlimited data was $15.00 and he didn't know anything about the $10.00 one...
so no such luck for me!
Good luck to everyone else, we'll see what happens :-\
Kewlj1313
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Look at Data Unlimited ( name changed from Media Net today ) and Unlimited Messaging ( Not Family Messaging ) It is $5 cheaper a month. This confirms that they are doing the $10 a month. Most reps, or so I've heard have said they don't know about it. Ask to talk to a supervisior tell both of them that you have friends who have had it done and you've notice the change if you had Data Unlimited and Unlimited Messaging it'd be $5 cheaper. It may take about a half hour before they finally let you do it but I can assure you they will do it. I haven't yet tried it because I need a non smart phone to try it. I will post back when I do try it. Also because a half hour is a long time, and this usually pisses me off to have to be on the phone for a half hour because they don't know what is going on in their own company, I ask for more rollover minutes. I usually get 20-200 extra minutes from having to be on hold and waiting for so long. Just be firm with them and don't take no for an answer.

I did notice the name change but the thing is it is still showing as $15.00! I might call back in a few days after it has had time to go through their system
Thx and post back if anyone has actually success with this !
The rep did ask for a link or something where it said this price etc etc etc ;-)! Mabye if there was somewhere on their own site or an actual place I could show them this price change rather than just word of mouth ya know!
Kewlj1313

Kewlj1313 said:
I did notice the name change but the thing is it is still showing as $15.00! I might call back in a few days after it has had time to go through their system
Thx and post back if anyone has actually success with this !
The rep did ask for a link or something where it said this price etc etc etc ;-)! Mabye if there was somewhere on their own site or an actual place I could show them this price change rather than just word of mouth ya know!
Kewlj1313
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I uploaded an image of the online account. You can see Unlimited Messaging is $20/mo and Unlimited Data is $15, But Bundled together they're only $30. This used to be $35. You're still supposed to be able to get it for $10 with a Unlimited Family Messaging plan. Inform them of this, and again don't take no for an answer lol. Or just wait until I get a non smart phone and I'll post and tell you exactly what I said and did.

anybodii said:
I uploaded an image of the online account. You can see Unlimited Messaging is $20/mo and Unlimited Data is $15, But Bundled together they're only $30. This used to be $35. You're still supposed to be able to get it for $10 with a Unlimited Family Messaging plan. Inform them of this, and again don't take no for an answer lol. Or just wait until I get a non smart phone and I'll post and tell you exactly what I said and did.
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Thx for the upload! what I wonder is if this is an actual possibility, I mean I understand what you're saying but I wonder if anyone has actually gotten them to do it...!
Let us know
Kewlj1313

Kewlj1313 said:
Thx for the upload! what I wonder is if this is an actual possibility, I mean I understand what you're saying but I wonder if anyone has actually gotten them to do it...!
Let us know
Kewlj1313
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Well on the forum posted on AT&T's website people have confirmed that they did. It took them a while to get through and many of them said the Rep did not know about it and had to call them back like 2 hours later. The link again is:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=12172&view=by_date_ascending&page=2
Post 13 is one that confirmed it. Tell ATT to look at that if you want.

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i have 4 lines ..2 have pda plans and the other 2 had the media net unl for 15.00 and i just called and they changed mine to the 10.00 unl plan!!!! at first he acted like he did not know wat im talkin about...but he got it now.. so keep in mind if u call in and they dont kno wat u talkin about u can always hang up and call back .. i guess cuz its so new they have not found out about it yet.
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Just to let everyone know. I just got off the phone with CC and had my MEdia Net Unlimited changed to the new rate of $10/mo. YIPPEE!!! :smileyvery-happy:
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When I called, I told the rep what I had read on the ATT FORUM!! Mentioned that I am On HERE all the time!! He knew what I was talking about and said there were some prerequisites. Needless to say that I basically told HIM what they were, from what I have read, before he had the chance to tell me. Anyway, he was VERY nice and changed it!! That's $5 in my pocket every month! Thanks to the OP for posting this little tidbit of information!! :smileyhappy:
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Well my nice little Rep. just called me back and said it was all fixed up and I now have the $10 price.......they were SO nice but
next time I'll wait to call on a Monday. Thank you all for all you're help......DCookie.....we did it! :smileyvery-happy:

Please read if you have at&t internet service!

Please listen out..
We have an internet price issue..
at&t has a wonderful selection of phones and a great quality of service..
I've been with at&t for about 9 years now(since cingular and the 1st At&t and i'm 19).
I now own the htc fuze from at&t for about 6 months(previously owning the bj2).. the internet plan that they have for the pda and smartphone customers called the "PDA Personal" as we all know costs $30 regardless if you own the fuze to the blackjack 2 and anything between. My mom also has the LG Incite. Internet comes out to $60/month (Phones are on a Family plan)...this is ridiculous..This costs as much as some peoples phone bills altogether..
Add it up, 3 phones
1 media net internet
2 pda plans
family messaging
and 1400 minutes
(not including small things like insurance)
We need to tell at&t they need to make a family pda plan.
THIS IS REGARDLESS IF YOU PAY FOR 1 PDA PLAN OR MULTIPLE, WE NEED TO REQUEST A CHEAPER PRICE AND A FAMILY PLAN FOR FAMILIES THAT HAVE MORE THAN ONE PDA..
I hope you all understand where im coming from..All I am asking is if you read this, you can say yes or no in a reply that you can/cannot send at&t a message or even call them or send them a letter through the mail requesting for a better price..
can we do this from August 12, 2009- September 1st, 2009??? Please help.
it takes consistent calling at least 1 phone call a day or even a week, or as much as you can do..
Trust me with this huge forum and peoples help put forth, THEY'LL LISTEN..
I want to thank all of those that will help in advance, i really appreciate your effort sooo much.

They have a family data unlimited plan for $10 per line. It requires family messaging which you already have. It's not available for PDAs but you can probably cheat and use it just like medianet.

Wilhelm said:
They have a family data unlimited plan for $10 per line. It requires family messaging which you already have. It's not available for PDAs but you can probably cheat and use it just like medianet.
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A few questions, is the service(media net) the same(just as fast and strong) compared to the pda plan?? Also how do I receive the media net plan on my htc fuze?? i can't do it, especially talking to a rep

Exact same service. They only charge twice as much because they expect you to use it more (or it covers the price of the more expensive phone) (or they can). I don't know the details of stealing this service. You'd think that just going on to att.com and changing your device would do it but I don't think it's that simple. Also they may track down the IMEI and up it to the PDA service.

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When I bought my sidekick lx online I knew that Tmobile had stop selling them and I thought the data plan was online for the internet and some none important apps, Im really upset that I cant get text msg alerts and when people text me it shows up as the number and not the contact name and yes I have done everything you can think of to fix both of these issues. I paid a lot of money to shut my plan off early with Verizon and then paid a lot of money to buy a new tmobile plan, the phone and the activation SIM kit. I knew id be spending the money but I had no idea you wouldnt be able to get things that 10 yr old cell phones have with the sidekick. There has to be someway around the data plan I know I can sell my phone on ebay or something and buy a new tmobile phone but as dumb as it sounds one of the main reasons I left verizon for tmobile is to own the sidekick. I need some kind of computer wize to help me and many many many other people out there with the Sidekick. And my phone came with a USB cord so if you can plug your phone into the computer there MUST be a way to download the stuff you need and transfer it to your phone. Someone out there please please help! there MUST be something I can do! thanks!