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Storage Problems for a non developer

Hi
I know there are lots of people asking how to save space and mostly they get told to use 'search' and check the stickys.
I'm a keen gadget lover but have no technical background. I have a 64mb Tmobile MDA (with the horrible branding) and the following setup:
R 1.00.10
G 1337.36
D 1.01.00 WWE
I've heard/seen references to big storage etc but I don't really understand it.
Can someone either give me:
- a really simple way to update my rom etc, or
- suggest another way to delete stuff that I won't need (don't want to delete stuff only to find half the programs no longer work)
- explain the easiest way to get rid of all the Tmobile stuff
Many thanks in advance

To prevent the Branding stuff from loadibg you must hard-reset your magician (backup first!!) and after the initialization (calibration etc) you must soft-reset just before the customization starts. You got about 3 to 5 seconds to press the softreset, so when your screen reads 'tap screen to start using ....' you put the stylus in soft-reset hole & then tap the screen. As soon as the default blue WM background appears you press the stylus to soft-reset.
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
To gain more storage you can move camera & album from \windows to storage folder. Remember to change shortcuts & registry as well. This saves ariund 1MB. More is possible: I've got < 8MB ram memory allocated to installed stuff with almost all ext-rom cabs installed. Yes I moved a lot.
To gain BIGstorage you can follow instructions below, but first you should get more familiar with the magician I guess. You can save your ext-rom cabs though & update to rom 1.13
url in instructions. To upgrade you just connect the magician to usb & start the downloaded shipped-rom & follow the instructions. Make a backup first & write down your gprs settings, caus you'll have dutch ext-rom cabs after the update. They're in English but contain dutch TMO settings.
Instruction for BS:
- Get nbfdec.exe from the thread 'Upg to 1.13 WWE ROM (with 1.13 Radio) in 10 easy steps!' @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&start=0&sid=75c5e40168a22052fb7c5554bddd68c2
- get maupgradeut_noid.exe from the ftp
- Download the shipped rom from:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
- Download the Hexeditor from:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html
1. Unzip NL_11300_131_11200.exe (or any other shipped rom)
2. Put NBFDEC in the same directory as the unzipped shipped rom files
3. Copy the getdevicedata.exe to your Magician and execute to write DeviceData.txt
to \Windows and view with notepad
5. Decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1:
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
6. Hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt
(probably only if using a rom from other provider)
7. Replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor:
locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 in the nk.nb1
(use binary search for this!!)
7. Encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
8. run maupgradeut_noid.exe to upgrade CE image
Also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
Regards, M

Many thanks OLTP for your reply....perhaps it's me but I still find that quite technical....when I have to rename stuff etc I'm not sure where it is to do it.
The tmobile branding piece is clear and I'll have a stab at that tonight though.
Perhaps I'm just destined to struggle with memory or buy a 128mb device.
Appreciate you taking the time though - anyone else want to have a pop at help a keen but useless gadget lover !

BS is unfortunately quite technical & this is the easiest way.
I suggest to remove the branding, that will save some storage. get more accustomed to your magician by exploring it without changing.
I can write you some steps for moving files to gain more ram.
maybe in the future you can think about BS again.
Cheers, M

pna: oltp's guide is about the best you'll ever get!
Basically, to debrand, do what he says in the first paragraph. This will remove all the additional TMobile gunk being installed. So, you need to hard reset (which will restore your system to "factory condition", and wipe everything), and then soft reset at the right time. Then you have a nice, fresh clean system. You can then read the board to see what files you might have skipped by achieving this, but frankly, you won't have missed much.
You can get your tmobile settings (for gprs etc) from here:
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sp3_setup.ihtml
FYI, before doing anything, get hold of a copy of GSFinder+ or a similar explorer. You will need it do any kind of installing/renaming etc.
Before venturing into the hardrest/soft reset business, consider if you want to do the big storage hack. Again, oltp's guide is perfect, but first the theory: the Extended Rom is like a small disk stuck inside your phone, carrying "backups" of the tmobile configuration stuff. If you do Bigstorage, it'll free that space for your use, giving you an extra 20mb or so to use for free. You can install stuff in there, and use it as a small, but bigger, disk to store stuff on. There's no reason not to do it, other than it's difficulty:
Difficulty? Yes, it takes some time, but instructions are provided, and clarified by oltp, so just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.
It does require some knowledge, or confidence to learn.
So ideally, you want to:
1. Backup any files you want to keep.
2. Do Bigstorage.
3. Skip extended rom rubbish.
However, before you worry about bigstorage or anything technical, I suggest you just do this: clean up your system as it is now, and then just in future remember to install every program you want directly to your SD Card. If you do that, your system will generally have more than enough memory to run well. You can skip all the bigstorage and extended rom business. It's only necessary for those on a particularly tight memory budget. This should be fine for your needs I think.
FYI: to install onto your SD card, always choose NOT to use "main memory" when installing from your PC, or on the PDA, download and use a great program called cabinstl. That will allow you to install to your SD card.
V

oltp said:
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
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oltp, do you mean I cant rename, move, or delete any of the files in extended rom? So its safe even if they show?

Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M

oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers

Sure,
You can use bal666's tool to convert the ext-rom part of a romdump to a diskimage which you can mount under Windows XP, with appropriate software ofcourse.
Then you can do whatever you want with your ext-rom. Requires flashing of your magician & a hard-reset.
For starters I recommend to skip executing of the ext-rom by applying a soft-reset just before the custmization starts after a hard-reset. This way you won't cripple your device.
M

Many thanks OLTP & vjay555,
The branding thing worked a dream and saved me 6mb.
Now want to do big storage. Have got all the downloads ready but just need a bit more help on the 1-8 settings.
I'm really sorry that I need such basic help - haven't really got a clue what I'm doing but prepared to give it a go - please help.
1. No problem with this...even I can do this.
2. Where is this...I assume I move them to the Magician using explore (through activesynch) - am I right...if so, is there an obvious place that the unzipped shipped rom files will be.
3. Can't find a copy of getdevicedata.exe, Where do i find it, and then how do I execute to write DeviceData.txt
5. Afraid I don't know how to do this
6. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
7. How do I do this
8. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
Also, a little confused in the section after no 8 - what do I do here?
Hope you haven't lost patience with me. Hope to hear back soon.
Cheers

Paul,
I recently updated the wiki (top right link on each forum page & go to the howto part of the magician section) with the BIG Storage from shipped-rom method. This contains some more info than this thread. Pls read it & mail me the remaining questions, you've got my email-address. I'll add some extra help then.
Cheers, M

Trying to download latest UK rom on WIKI site but the link to this ROM is not working: OS 1.12.00 / ExtROM 1.12.131 / Radio 1.12
Any ideas?
Ta

Yep a broken link, pls use this to go to the shipped rom section from the ftp: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/
Maybe I take the time tomorrow to check some of the links
btw latest uk-rom should be 1.13WWE from TMO.

nm8 said:
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
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you may want to check this out at htt*://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=395&PN=1. it is based on bal666 info. go check it out.

That's about romcooking and can be found herevas well. It's no BS hack.

Yes, it's no BS. But just a little info for nm8 to do ext rom customizations from his last reply.

llbasha - Latest WM5 using AKU3.5 - with KitchenUtnsils

Read end of post for updates .. Thank you .......
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WM2005 AKU3.5 by LLBASHA
ROM: 3.50pp16a1
dated: 02.02.2007
OS 5.1.195 (Build 15698.3.5.0)
RamDisk 48mb
PagePool 16mb
Storage 30.53mb
Program 61.29mb
For Himalaya PH10B (XDAii MDA2 Qtec2020 Imate Pocket PC)
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Hi everybody,
This is, I guess, what MANY, I believe, is looking for.
A good clean stable and fast WM5 rom based on AKU3.5 that you can change easily to your liking... right?
Well, your wishes come true. Here you will find my new ROM, the tools, and procedure to modify it!!!
It does NOT include ANY personal info.
It include clean original splash screen theme
It includes lots of Today-plug-in that you can disable if you do not want (disabled by default).
Modifications involve, beside adding & removing files, changes of hklm.reg, hkcu.reg, default.hv, and system initflashfiles.dat files. The ROM has been optimized to the extremes, hence if you decided you want to modify it please make sure what ever you add MUST be less or equal to what ever you delete.
It took me continuous 10 days of work and 8 flashes to get this procedure and ROM right.
I have tested the room and it works perfect ... however, please forgive me if I have overlooked something.
Note: I suggest you test the rom BEFORE you install any extra programs of your own ... and then again AFTER installation... so you can determine the source of the problem or the violating program, if any.
If you want to automate the installation of additional programs, stick the cabs file in the ExtROM directory in the SD-card and edit the config.txt accordingly.
To use the modification tools, just drop your favourit NK.NPF file in the RomEditor directory and click on steps 1 to 7 and follow the prompt.
It could not be easier ... Well, is it??? You will soon find out!!!!!!!!!!
Final word of thanks to tjlabais for his detailed tutorial, scripts and support. Many thanks to Mamaich for his incredible tools, as well as to Helmi_c, Buzz_lighter, Tofclock, and all those who contributed indirectly or in the past to get WM5 working on our Himalaya.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6FCT36YH
Filesize: 27.96 MB
Filename: llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.rar
Description: llbasha Himalaya WM5-AKU35pp16a1
Good luck and enjoy.
LLBASHA
Note: You can refer to tjlabais original tutorial here:
http://buzzdev.net/index.php?option=com_phorum&Itemid=125&phorum_query=read,26,27196,page=1
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Edit1: Guys, please note I did not invent the wheel here!!! I only picked already existing work and put it into organized specific working method with example (my rom). So please no nag where did I get this or that from. What I am giving you here is next to perfect ROM that you CAN edit to suit your own taste.
Edit2: This method is NOT for new users - noob. It is NOT like the kitchen method. Also, question about the tools should be posted in the original thread by tjlabais.
Edit3: If you have problem download from MegaUpload, use this one: http://www.4shared.com/file/10238126/881bdc5f/llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.html?s=1
Edit4: Copy this file: \windows\iexplore.lnk to to here: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\iexplore.lnk
Edit5: If you have slow startup or problem delete this file: \Windows\StartUp\psShutXP.lnk
Edit6: I got report of 500+ downlaods and 2000+ views bu no reports here on anything. Please file in your actual experence so others can benefit, regarding the ROM itself or the RomEditor tools. Thank you.
Edit7: Changing ramdisk size from registery only is not sufficient to pass the difference to program. New versions shall be released soon with different ramdisk size, but will keep 16mb pagepool.
Edit8: an new update rom version with 96mb program 16 ramdisk 16 pagepole
has been posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294016
New Version here
WM2005 AKU3.5 by LLBASHA
ROM: 3.50pp16A2
dated: 13.02.2007
OS 5.1.195 (Build 15698.3.5.0)
RamDisk 48mb
PagePool16mb
Storage 30.53mb
Program 64mb
For Himalaya PH10B (XDAii MDA2 Qtec2020 Imate Pocket PC)
This version is basically a simple update. Changes from version 3.50pp16a1
Removed SpeedDial and InternetCachiClean
Added cLaunch (great free today plugin)
Fixed startup delay caused by psShutXP
Fixed links and arranged icons in folders.
No known problem has been reported after intial version 450 downloads
Filesize: 28.0 MB (29,410,652 bytes)
Filename: llbasha-WM2005-AKU35pp16A2.rar
Description: llbasha Himalaya WM2005-AKU35pp16A2
Download links:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GVFL6OJD
http://www.4shared.com/file/10571804/ce7f3d8c/llbasha-WM2005-AKU35pp16A2.html
I have uploaded an alternative version, details of it you can find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1168356&postcount=79
It is not an upgrade to above but rather a special version custom made requested by some members.
Total download to date 3100+
Enjoy
llbasha
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llbasha - Latest WM5 using AKU3.5 - more screen shots
Here are some new screen shots
Engjoy
llbasha

THANX A lot
thanx for this rom. U have done a good job cause u had not puted any personal info and non removable applications.
CAN u tell me how can i change sms background as u did

Alternative download from here:
http://www.4shared.com/dir/1965106/cd5aba6f/sharing.html
I hope this works better.
llbasha

does it give also on German ?

Tahnks llbasha
While I'm dowenloading:
1) Do u mean that u include the cooking way in ur uploads?
I read the tutorial u mention and it was not clear for me (as the subject here 4 the Ramdisk and pagepool, by the way thanks 4 the explanation there)
I hope u can find time to make some easy explanation.

The_hesham said:
Tahnks llbasha
While I'm dowenloading:
1) Do u mean that u include the cooking way in ur uploads?
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Yes, I did put all the cooking tools and steps to take to modify ANY rom to your liking.
llbasha

Question started
Dear llbasha
Please explain more:
In the text file "llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.txt
5. If you want to change the image/rom version (show on first splash screen bottom right corner), Go to address: 19, 82CDF, 1C1C18
search for old version and replace it with exact number of digits.
6. If you want to change the rom version and date that show when accessing device information from settings, search for the version in unicode, and the date stamp in ANSI.
7- Save your file and run 6ReassembleNPF.bat
[Correction is 7ReassembleNPF.bat]
And
In step no. 2
"When done, remove all HIDDEN attributes for ALL files.
Note: use Registery Workshop as editor for HKLM & HKCU even if nothing changed (not all rom modifications would require registery editing), i.e. open the file and save again irrespective)."
Please explain?

The_hesham said:
Dear llbasha
Please explain more:
In the text file "llbasha-WM5-AKU35pp16a1.txt
5. If you want to change the image/rom version (show on first splash screen bottom right corner), Go to address: 19, 82CDF, 1C1C18
search for old version and replace it with exact number of digits.
llbasha: Open the nk.nba with hex editor... search for the older version you want to change. In my case, I find it at the above addresses. This process change only the image version that you see on first splash screen... ok
6. If you want to change the rom version and date that show when accessing device information from settings, search for the version in unicode, and the date stamp in ANSI.
llbasha: The same version shows also when you start you device, go to settings, device info. To change this, again open nk.npa with hex editor and search for it but in this case search using unicode. To change the date of the version, search for the old version date in ANSI and when you find it change it... OK
7- Save your file and run 6ReassembleNPF.bat
[Correction is 7ReassembleNPF.bat]
llbasha: There is no 6........bat anyway. Thanks
And
In step no. 2
"When done, remove all HIDDEN attributes for ALL files.
llbasha: I suspected that some hidden files may not be picked up by the compiler, so I removed all hiden attributes ...
Note: use Registery Workshop as editor for HKLM & HKCU even if nothing changed (not all rom modifications would require registery editing), i.e. open the file and save again irrespective)."
llbasha: What do you want me to explain? ... please rephrase..
Please explain?
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I hope this helps

Some Apps like Schekar rom...
Hi,
Is this screeshots from your new ROM?
I think there is some apps like Schekar ROM presente in this new rom.
I've returned to Helmi's rom, just because is almost 100% clean.
Thanks anyway for your work.

zipzop said:
does it give also on German ?
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Sorry ... This is English ROM but sure there is someone out there who knows how to localize it.
Regards
llbash

superxx said:
Hi,
Is this screeshots from your new ROM?
I think there is some apps like Schekar ROM presente in this new rom.
I've returned to Helmi's rom, just because is almost 100% clean.
Thanks anyway for your work.
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Yes, above screen shoots are from my rom on my O2XDAii and no one else.
This is clean ROM ... what are you taking about??? Please be specific... What is 100% clean???????????
There was some remaining space in the rom so I filled it with some VERY small today plugin and utilities and are disabled by default. So where is the problem. This remaing space you can't use it anyway once you cocked the rom.
Any I included the tools and steps to remove/add to your liking... So....

Hello Sir,
I will try to use this rom frist.Thank you to much.

sorry

Hello Sir,
After I use it .Almost OK but my Internet exploer icon lost .How I get it back ?

krishan2207 said:
HI
i found a bug.Whenever i tried to open download agent it opens with a blank screen nothing to do in that application so check it out.
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Where did you get that??????????????
Are you talking about my ROM??????????????

Question started ....contenue
llbasha said:
I hope this helps
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Dear llbasha
The_hesham: regarding no.5
I search for 19, 82CDF, 1C1C18 as shown ,
Then what to do?
Regarding no.6
6. If you want to change the rom version and date that show when accessing device information from settings, search for the version in unicode, and the date stamp in ANSI.
llbasha: The same version shows also when you start you device, go to settings, device info. To change this, again open nk.npa with hex editor and search for it but in this case search using unicode. To change the date of the version, search for the old version date in ANSI and when you find it change it... OK
The_hesham: Search for what see photo no4 & How to change?
Regarding step no.2
llbasha: I suspected that some hidden files may not be picked up by the compiler, so I removed all hiden attributes
The_hesham: Do u mean to delet all hidden files & which files I suspect it will not be picked by the compiler?
Regarding :
Note: use Registery Workshop as editor for HKLM & HKCU even if nothing changed (not all rom modifications would require registery editing), i.e. open the file and save again irrespective)."
The_hesham: Which workshop as editor & which file to edit?
I'm sorry for to much questions but I did cooking by bepe tools and I want to know about this way.

sorrawut said:
Hello Sir,
After I use it .Almost OK but my Internet exploer icon lost .How I get it back ?
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Copy this file: \windows\iexplore.lnk
to here: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\iexplore.lnk
Thanks

llbasha said:
Copy this file: \windows\iexplore.lnk
to here: \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\iexplore.lnk
Thanks
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Thank Sir,

krishan2207 said:
thanx for this rom. U have done a good job cause u had not puted any personal info and non removable applications.
CAN u tell me how can i change sms background as u did
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Do you know about HTML, STYLEs, and JAVA scripting???????????
If you do then you want be asking this question, and if you do not know then my answer to you is I do not either!!!!!!!!!!!
You need an expert from Delhi to answer this. Do you know anyone??? May be you can ask him about your 'download agent bug' problem as well.
Thanks

[ROM][WWE] Ready-to-Cook Vanille Elf base ROM (SYS & OEM) 2.20.707.1B [ONLINE]

I share my base so that our Cook could have easier life (I hope).
This is not a ready-for-flashing product. You will still have to Cook and BuildOS. Don't download if you have no idea what to do with cooking.
This is Vanille ROM (SYS & OS) based on 2.20.707.1B WWE. Both files and Registry are trimmed.
I use this base to cook my own ROM and everything looks good. I am appreciated if you could trim down the size further.
What are removed (Removed items are included in zips attached):
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SYS
-Windows Update
-Internet Sharing
-Transcriber
-Windows Live
OEM
-Comm Manager
-Audio Manager
-Home Plugin
-Phone Skin <== experimental
-Task Manager (X button)
-MMS
-TouchPad and Touch Keyboard
Enjoy!
Base-ROM (SYS & OEM)
http://www.fs2you.com/files/78a403eb-8c8d-11dc-922a-00142218fc6e/
Ripped SYS files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/a7c5aaa3-8c8d-11dc-b3b1-0014221f4662/
Ripped OEM files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/34c020ba-8c8e-11dc-96c1-0014221b798a/
Attached is the Network Wizard from ExtROM, removed operator's customization package.
PS: The two "CheckAutoRun" files are also removed. You may copy them back from your original ROM.

100+ view but no one loves it? omfg.

chill dude ... thanks for the uploads the the chefs will be happy with it

evermick said:
100+ view but no one loves it? omfg.
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Don't worry bro, I'm downloading it now and I will do some cooking 2nite.
Cheersss

kick to first page.. I wonder if ppl know what to do with this
Bascially when you put back Comm Manager, Audio Manager, MMS, Phone skin and Task manager, pack it into .NBH and flash it, it is a Vanilla ROM already.
I seperate each part just for the sake of easier replacement of different modules.

I am trying to make a clean, trimmed down rom. I am sure I can learn something by reviewing your base here.
Thank you vm for sharing!

Hey guys... Exploring the keyboard oem package i've noticed that there are alot of language database files for other languages than the ones selectable in the rom.
Mayb we can edit the reg to make these languages also available?
I'm studying on it, but still no progress.
gr. bram

bram_smulders said:
Hey guys... Exploring the keyboard oem package i've noticed that there are alot of language database files for other languages than the ones selectable in the rom.
Mayb we can edit the reg to make these languages also available?
I'm studying on it, but still no progress.
gr. bram
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Good finding, I did not notice it.
Thou, I noticed there are a lot of lang files when I remove the Touchpad.
Sounds like I can remove even more files for keyboard layout as I don't need them

Yes I Accept Bribes And Donations, Just So I Can Build Up A Small Buffer For A Broken Device So I Can Keep On Cooking, Ripping Apps, And keep Building full SD Card Coded Cabs and Keep The World Save From Bricks
XDA-Developers FireFox & IE Search Bar Plug In
Vanilla 2.2 Cooking Rom
Kitchen
My Full Signature With All Links To Important Stuff:
Touch/ELF
IPL: 1.17.0002
SPL: 1.11.000
RADIO: T-Mobile NL03.08.90
ROM: SPC WM6.09 (SP1) / TMNL2.26 Full / Stripped
Wizard/G4
IPL: ????
SPL: ????
RADIO: ????
ROM: ????
SDA/Typhoon
IPL: ????
SPL: ????
Versatel/24 Skin
Orange SPV100
DEAD
O2 XDA - Wallaby
Next Device - HTC Rapheal

Noonski said:
Sorry Mick, there's to much going on.
If this is from the 2.2 dopod rom my advice would be to leave HTChome exe's and Dll's in the Rom, as not everyone has this new updated Home Plugin yet.
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This can be found again from my posted "OEM-ripped.zip"
Entertainment can be removed.
I think some of us have an option.xml file for this.
And Office.
I have them both at home.
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These stuffs could be easier removed from the SYS. They are packed within seperate folders already. So no hard work is needed
Maybe I should seperate those stuffs in next version (if there is any) to make the ROM even easier for noobs.
Also it would be nice to integrate Rapi certificates.
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Maybe I would just build a seperate package for this

evermick said:
This can be found again from my posted "OEM-ripped.zip"
These stuffs could be easier removed from the SYS. They are packed within seperate folders already. So no hard work is needed
Maybe I should seperate those stuffs in next version (if there is any) to make the ROM even easier for noobs.
Maybe I would just build a seperate package for this
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Maybe i didn't use the right words.
What i wanted to say sort of is.
That you don't need to remove the actuall packages.
You split the whole rom up by adding option.xml files.
You set the needed folders to True and the unneeded folders to False.
Just check the option.xml i just attached for the entertainment folders.
Also are removed files from Oem folders brought into a new DSM file to prevent Missing files when extracting the rom.
And if WLM is removed do you add the removed Shortcuts to the WLM packages.
You know me i'm saying this to help, because if you want a good true vanilla it has to be perfect.
I've added some new packages to Elf Repository for use in kitchen.
HTCHome 2.1 plug in with Added Tab settings.
Updated Network Wizard SD and MM Package.
WWAN (if only for the option xml file, it's pretty useless to have anyway)
Multiple GlyphChace Settings Oem Packages.
All using Xtriny's new Build which does allow changing of Pagepool settings.
There's a memory fault in the pre 5.2.1933 version of 2.2 Rom.
At the moment i just started a new ROM and it's going to take weeks to finish it.
Luckely no ones waiting for a new ROM anymore because they are popping up left and right.
So i can take my time. I think it's time i take my responsibility and stop being a chef.
A lot is going wrong and i'm not talking about you.

Looks like we are making another "Pandora" style kitchen when we add option.xml to individual packages.
It is a good idea, but will consume lots of time. Let me see if I could do it

That's what i mean. But you don't need to do this alone.
I'm uploading every detail i can find.
So there's allready a lot of packages available.
After every change i make a selectable package.
And even when you re extract the rom you don't get missing files.
For instance when you remove files from OAMAPPS folder and rebuild the DSM contents. All the modules in folders won't be added and you still have missing files.
But if you then take the EXE's and DLL's out of the folder sand put them into OEMAPPS folder and then make Rebuild the DSM you won't have missing files.
Weird thing is that when you then extract that NBH file the OEMAPPS will then be extracted to SYS folder instead.
This shouldn't be a big problem as you have probaply seen in other kitchen's
Here's a Vanilla Based on 2.2 os 5.2.1933
You can extract the Rom and recook it.
4MB PP
It's 50.1 MB 62.63 Storage It's Nice and Neat.Everything not in it can be found in repository.
(The only thing i forgot is to remove the ZIP link)

Hay Noonski
The thing is i've been lookin for a clean rom with big storage and a lot of free ram with TochFlow and WITHOUT htc-home plugin for my Touch
How much Stoarge in the one u linked to? and free ram?
If some one have a good clean stable rom, would u plz pm or post me the link

Cobra2 said:
Hay Noonski
The thing is i've been lookin for a clean rom with big storage and a lot of free ram with TochFlow and WITHOUT htc-home plugin for my Touch
How much Stoarge in the one u linked to? and free ram?
If some one have a good clean stable rom, would u plz pm or post me the link
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It's amazing.
It's almost 63 MB storage 59.39 free.
Memory free around 26.
no HTCHome wlm X button audio Manager and it's clean and recookable.
But i'm Pulling it so Xtriny can post it. It came from his base.
I just completely stripped it to 50.1 MB as close to the max as possible.

evermick said:
I share my base so that our Cook could have easier life (I hope).
This is not a ready-for-flashing product. You will still have to Cook and BuildOS. Don't download if you have no idea what to do with cooking.
This is Vanille ROM (SYS & OS) based on 2.20.707.1B WWE. Both files and Registry are trimmed.
I use this base to cook my own ROM and everything looks good. I am appreciated if you could trim down the size further.
What are removed (Removed items are included in zips attached):
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SYS
-Windows Update
-Internet Sharing
-Transcriber
-Windows Live
OEM
-Comm Manager
-Audio Manager
-Home Plugin
-Phone Skin <== experimental
-Task Manager (X button)
-MMS
-TouchPad and Touch Keyboard
Enjoy!
Base-ROM (SYS & OEM)
http://www.fs2you.com/files/78a403eb-8c8d-11dc-922a-00142218fc6e/
Ripped SYS files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/a7c5aaa3-8c8d-11dc-b3b1-0014221f4662/
Ripped OEM files
http://www.fs2you.com/files/34c020ba-8c8e-11dc-96c1-0014221b798a/
Attached is the Network Wizard from ExtROM, removed operator's customization package.
PS: The two "CheckAutoRun" files are also removed. You may copy them back from your original ROM.
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can this b used for cooking roms for elfin (128\256)? which kitchen do we use to cook this rom?

I'm not sure.
But it's an earlier Base then the vanilla version i posted up ahead.
But if you download the .nbh file and extract the os.nb then read the PP chaging tutorial in th cooking class kitchen you can check if it has the correct value.
If the value for pagepool is 20 it is for both elf and elfin.

hello guy´s
i am new here and i want to flash the vanilla2.20.707.1B on my elf
i´ve got ipl 3.10 and spl 3.07 on it . the problem is : every time i try to flash ( Executing HTC_Touch_WWE_ME_2.20.456.1B.exe ) it Goes through the bootloder to status bar , after holding on at 1 % the touch restarts to winmob.
Ahe Flash prog ( RUU ) is showing ERROR 260: Connection.
can someone plz help me i´ve searched all the fourums . after 4 -5 h of trying you are my last hope.
Greetz Foe

I´m not sure, but if your IPL / SPL is the patched version, it has overwrite protection, and the ROM you´re trying to flash is full, it contains all areas: IPL, SPL, ROM, Splash and Radio.
The way around is to extract the individual ROM components and rebuild the NBH file including only the ROM section, leaving IPL, SPL, Splash and Radio out. When you flash this one, IPL/SPL won´t be overwritten, so no error will pop.
Any kitchen around comes with all the tools you need for the procedure. If you don´t know how to do it, take a look at the forums, this subject is very well covered.
Hope this helps.
Eduardo

[Sept 24, 2008] DK's Kitchen v1 WM6.1, CE OS 5.2.20748 and 5.2.20755

I think _Alex_ was the last to offer a kitchen and I think it's about time we had a new one. Everyone has their own needs and I know no ROM is perfect so here's my attempt to satisfy everyone.
I don't know if I'm going to have the time to answer everyone's questions and to help resolve all issues so I have to ask the community to please help out when you guys can.
Next, on with the thanks and I know I'm going to leave some people out so I apologize in advance. So thanks to these users for the tools and support we use to customize our phones:
-- kyphur, bepe, jerplea, jscepi, cmonex, alltheway, p1tater...
And to these people for helping me test and support my roms:
-- hang.tuah, dani31, -888-, idj1975, ecltech, kmfm$, rkrasny...
Here's what's included in the link:
OEM-3.29: my cleaned up OEM folder based off of 3.29 Dopod ROM
OEM-Packages: my packages created with help from XDA (see attachment for list)
ROM-20748: ported XIP from jerplea, OS.NB edited to show 20748
SYS-20748: ported SYS from jerplea, has 20212 components
SYS-Extras: entertainment (solitaire, bubble breaker), office, onenote, windowslive
And without further ado here's what you need to do:
1. Extract Kitchen.rar to the root of your drive (i.e. c:\ or d:\)
2. Extract OEM-3.29, ROM-20755, SYS-20755 to where you extracted Kitchen.rar
3. Copy packages you want from OEM-Packages to OEM folder
4. Copy packages you want from SYS-Extras to SYS folder
5. Cook and flash, see attached DK's Instructions doc if you need more help
NOTE: The contents of "OEM\OEMXIPKernel" are REQUIRED for cooking if you want your rom to boot
To get 2DManila working you will want to include from OEM-Packages the following:
-- 2DManila, Album, AudioBooster, AudioManager, CommManager, ConcurrenceMgr, VerionInfo, YouTube, Camera, Dshow, (me thinks that's everything)...You also need GoogleMaps.cab and OperaMobile (not included, search Dev&Hack for current version)
My Supa-Clean ROM always have the following:
-- ConcurrenceMgr, OutlookEnhancement, PictureEnhancement, RingtonePlugin, VersionInfo, StartupAnimationEngine, SymbolPad, DShow and mHub
click me if wanna give me a little somethin'
http://rapidshare.com/files/146363122/DK_s_Kitchen_v1.zip <-- 99MB
http://rapidshare.com/files/146441384/OEMandPackages.zip <-- OEM and Packages Only
http://rapidshare.com/files/146425292/ROM_SYS-20748.zip <-- CE OS 5.2.20748, ROM and SYS only
http://rapidshare.com/files/148174032/ROM_SYS-20755.rar <-- CE OS 5.2.20755, ROM and SYS only
http://www.4shared.com/file/65703329/83b15f7c/SYS_XIP_20755_FIXED.html <-- SYS fixed by KMFM$

TODO:
- Find and Squash bugs
- Get new Jade PhoneCanvas: Sakajati and uDK seem to have this working, but I'm stumped (HELP!!)
- Jade_VolumeControl: didn't include this because when installed you can't change the in call volume with the scroll wheel
- I got the Jade Camera working, but it doesn't seem to have autofocus so I didn't include it. Anyone have a the files for the camera floating around?
OEM Version Numbers:
RandomAccess - 4_0_18174127_0
OutlookEnhancement - 1_0_33540_4
Album - 2_5_18191330_0
BootLauncher - 1_0_34322_2
AdvancedPowerManagement - 1_5_18162126_1
RingtonePlugin - 1_00_080416_1
CommManager - 2_7_1_8
2DManila - 1_00_18183719_00
TaskManager - 2_1_34563_3
AudioBooster - 2_1_18181827_1
LargeTitleBar - 4_40_0_0
PictureEnhancement - 1_50_18141822_c2
YouTube - 1_5_1818_3522
AdobePDF - 2_5_103401_01R1
ArcsoftMMS - 5_0_31_45
HTCGesture - 1_0_30346_1
mHub - 6_54_080529_E0
SymbolPad - 1_0_29364_0
AudioManager - 2_0_18191228_0
VersionInfo - 1_0_18182525_0
ConcurrenceMgr - 1_1_18143521_0000
StartupAnimationEngine - 1_0_626715_0
DShow - 2_00_080730_0
CAMERA - 4_08_30665_00
EnlargeStartMenu - 1_2_34828_4

reserved for me again!!

Great. Really appreciate your gift.
Thank you very much indeed.

yay! Beautiful gift to our community
I will add it to my public share in few minutes...

I aim to please!

akadonny,
Thanks for sharing. Haven't done this in a very long time so maybe I'll give it go.

I downloaded your full 99mb Kitchen, and everything extracts fine. I've cooked up several ROMs so far, so I have a decent understanding of the process.
I apologize if this question has a simple answer, but I am having no luck, so here goes:
I want to use your 20748 build (you mentioned that 20753 has issues with SMS Threading) to update my NATF ROM series. Due to extensive customization I have done to my OEM folder, I would like to keep it as it, and so I extracted your ROM and SYS archives into my existing Kitchen folder. Now this is where it gets complicated...
I have tried using you Kitchen and Alex's Kitchen, both produce different results, and neither seem to work.
Using your Kitchen, the ROM appears to build fine, but OS.nb is nowhere to be found when HTC ROM Tool launches.
If I use Alex's Kitchen with BuildOS 2.7, then I get an error that it cannot find the ROM folder, but after clicking OK, everything builds as normal. However, after flashing the new ROM, my Tilt sits at the initial splash with R G D and will not go any further.
If I update the BuildOS in Alex's Kitchen to 4.3, everything builds correct and the ROM flashes OK, but UC does not run, File Explorer has an AT&T icon for some reason, and Manilla does not work.
--Ultimately, here is my question--
I want to keep the customizations that I have made to both AT&T Official 6.1 ROM (3.57) and HTC's Official WWE (3.28), but I want to use a newer OS build.
Is there a very special/exact combination of things I need to do in order to achieve this?
Thank you for absolutely any insight you can provide.

@NATF- have you tried mbarvian's Kitchen? I have been using his for awhile now trying to get a decent fully stripped rom....It's pretty decent.
@akadonny- sorry for me to tell him it. I will try yours out too...thanks again for your kitchen. Great if added to Wiki...

Knumb said:
@NATF- have you tried mbarvian's Kitchen? I have been using his for awhile now trying to get a decent fully stripped rom....It's pretty decent.
@akadonny- sorry for me to tell him it. I will try yours out too...thanks again for your kitchen. Great if added to Wiki...
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I tried this one also...
I must be doing something wrong since these kitchen's can't all be incompatible with the 20xxx builds (can they?), but I can't seem to figure it out.

notatreofan,
You should be able to combine your OEM with any ROM and/or SYS. If you run through the kitchen I provided you will need to look for os-new.nb as that is the file that is created. I may be wrong, but I think you need Windows Script 5.6 or something like that. Also, the kitchen needs to be run from the root of a drive so the folder structure looks something like:
C:\Kitchen\OEM
C:\Kitchen\ROM
C:\Kitchen\SYS
After you run !COOK.cmd and it finishes you will have a os-new.nb in your C:\Kitchen folder. Sorry if I'm not understanding correctly. I hope this solves your issue.
All - I removed the 20753 ROM and SYS and added 20755 ROM and SYS

akadonny said:
notatreofan,
You should be able to combine your OEM with any ROM and/or SYS. If you run through the kitchen I provided you will need to look for os-new.nb as that is the file that is created. I may be wrong, but I think you need Windows Script 5.6 or something like that. Also, the kitchen needs to be run from the root of a drive so the folder structure looks something like:
C:\Kitchen\OEM
C:\Kitchen\ROM
C:\Kitchen\SYS
After you run !COOK.cmd and it finishes you will have a os-new.nb in your C:\Kitchen folder. Sorry if I'm not understanding correctly. I hope this solves your issue.
All - I removed the 20753 ROM and SYS and added 20755 ROM and SYS
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Thank you for your answer. I could swear this is what I was doing, but I've tried so many things that I cannot remember... I'm going to try this method (again?) now, and I'll report back.

i have the same problem
i put your kitchen d:\Kitchen
after inside there the FOLDER sys and rom from 20755 and oem from 3.29
i push the cook
flash the new rom
and after splash screen with R,G,D no respond

My problem continues also.
I can cook successfully if I use the included OEM folders, but mine still causes a freeze at boot.
Plus my packages don't cook in properly using your Kitchen either. I put all of my packages in the OEM folder like your instructions say, and I can see BuildOS processing them, but I know that they're not being integrated because the resulting RUU_signed.nbh file is 28MB too small.

I try now the older 20748
and all working grate
in ABOUT screen have the new number of OS and Build
ACADONY you must test the 20755 again
something going wrong with it
also i can inclunding package with you rom
and your package don't working with alex kitchen

NotATreoFan said:
My problem continues also.
I can cook successfully if I use the included OEM folders, but mine still causes a freeze at boot.
Plus my packages don't cook in properly using your Kitchen either. I put all of my packages in the OEM folder like your instructions say, and I can see BuildOS processing them, but I know that they're not being integrated because the resulting RUU_signed.nbh file is 28MB too small.
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I am having the same problem at NATF....any ideas????

No preblems at all with 20748... about cooking...
The one big problem at this moment is that I don't get connection trough my provider/operator.
Through ActiveSync and wifi, programs like PIE and RSS Hub works but not via G, E, 3G or H.
It has connection, I mean G, E, 3G or H are visible (depends area wich one) and there is coming an another smaller icon of the four icons but no connection with an error... ;(

Black-Rose said:
No preblems at all with 20748... about cooking...
The one big problem at this moment is that I don't get connection trough my provider/operator.
Through ActiveSync and wifi, programs like PIE and RSS Hub works but not via G, E, 3G or H.
It has connection, I mean G, E, 3G or H are visible (depends area wich one) and there is coming an another smaller icon of the four icons but no connection with an error... ;(
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the 20748 is only one who working.. but activesync running on backround
20755 stack on splash screen
20753 when flash it start the boot loader screen and say something for error in core try again

For those getting stuck at the bootloader with 20755. Check to make sure that wince.nls is either in the ROM\XIP folder or as a package in SYS. This is a known problem with ROM's that hang at the splash screen. This may not be the case here, but it wouldn't hurt to check. I'm downloading 20755 now. I'll see what I can do.

KMFM$ said:
For those getting stuck at the bootloader with 20755. Check to make sure that wince.nls is either in the ROM\XIP folder or as a package in SYS. This is a known problem with ROM's that hang at the splash screen. This may not be the case here, but it wouldn't hurt to check. I'm downloading 20755 now. I'll see what I can do.
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you found any solution?
i try to night your tip!!
tell us if you found something
-EDIT-
this tip not working

(SYS 5.2.20931 XIP 5.2.20759) TornFlo 2D [ DISCONTINUED ]

[ This ROM is DISCONTINUED! Please do not ask about new releases. ]
Hello all. This is
TornFlo 2D Pre-release​
WM6.1 Professional for Tornado with integrated Manila 2D (fully working after installing additional CABs).
Information about memory:
Storage memory Program memory
Total: 17.95 MB Total: 48.25 MB
Free: 13.50 MB Free: 22.06 MB
(this is in PLK version, aproximately info)
Links:
WWE version: http://rapidshare.com/files/176388771/RUU.rar
PLK version: http://rapidshare.com/files/176431834/TornFlo2D_PLK_Pre-Final.rar (after flashing is needed to reinsert battery! Otherwise smartphone does not start (only in PLK version!!)
Kitchen: http://rapidshare.com/files/176499357/TornFlo2D-Pre-Final_Kitchen.rar
PLK MUI: http://rapidshare.com/files/176506072/PLK_MUI.rar
To get fully working Manila 2D, you need install:
- AudioManager
- HTC Album
- Opal CommManager
... and other needed plugins.
OEMCamera for kitchen and WWE ROM (i forgot to cook Camera in WWE): http://rapidshare.com/files/176505577/OEMCamera.zip
Plugins in attachment in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2761662&postcount=3885
Bugs:
- system profiles needs to be used by FakeCursor
Please inform me about all notified bugs.
Best regards,
MietasSR

i need a text step by step how to cook a room )
How to add drivers, and aplications...
pleaseeee

Just add your OEMpacks to SYS folder and open BuildOS.cmd file

congrats mate, this is quite the achivment.

Excellent work! Being wanting this. But which comm manager, htc album and audio manager seems to work with this one. it seems that i cannot get any of them working though

For me all working OK...

After the screen goes off, my phone switches off automatically. I don't understand why ?

Go to Power applet and disable powering off after minute.

MietasSR said:
Just add your OEMpacks to SYS folder and open BuildOS.cmd file
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Whats is OEMpacks??
how i can to change the language??
thank you

MietasSR said:
For me all working OK...
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Appreciate if you could attach the working cabs for htc album, audio manager and comm manager.
Terima kasih

Download this archive. This archive including all cabs.

I found some bugs in your ROM. First of all Comm Manager (from post you've linked) is broken. Next one: In settings there are some missing broken aplets (doubled, no icons, not working) and the last one: System information doesn't show informations about CPU. Screenshots of this bugs are in attachments. And you could add shortcut to the Camera app into the start menu and map button to this, because now I had to do it manually.

In PLK version you must change MUI number from 0409 to 0415 (CommManager MUI), or download PLK MUI and copy PL MUI for CommManager. Missing applets is exist only in PLK version, I not understand what to delete it. I don't know what about System Information.

MietasSR said:
Download this archive. This archive including all cabs.
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Thanks for the cabs

im having trouble with the blutooth i can turn it on and make my phone visable just fine but my problem is i cant send ppl stuff over bluetooth, for some reason it fails i even paried with them any help would be gladly appreciated

Just enable Beam.

it is enabled

On me all working OK... Try re-enable Beam, Bluetooth.

When I edit this ROM and build OS with this kitchen and flashed to device and when system booting is show screen that in attachments. How I remove it?

Proably you unchecked tweaks in BuildOS... You must omit Welcome screen... Connect your Tornado to PC, install CeRegEditor in PC and open it. You must change one key in Tornado registry:
[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Welcome]
"Welcome"=dword:FFFFFFFF