Hey
I went over to the smartphone section just now and i noticed you had two seperate sub-forums for the same phone:
The HTC Innovation (XDA IQ) and the HTC Tornado (SP5,8310,577w)
are these two handsets exactly the same thing? and htc innovation isnt that just their slogan?! its on my sp3i under the battery too!
just thought id point it out!
This was the reason why we created a separate forum for it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280317
Tornado and Innovation are codenames for two very similar HTC devices, but not exactly the same device, I don't really know the difference:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-tornado-firstlook-en.shtml
http://www.mobilegazette.com/o2-xda-iq-0605x12.htm
if anyone can point, would be good to know
i think HTC Innovation isn't a product,HTC Innovation just like :"Nokia Conneting People" ,because all new HTC product's label have "HTC Innovation",i have O2 XDA IQ and Qtek 8310,make sure it's HTC Tornado.
request to compare roms
Hi,
We can't seem to make sure whethere these devices are the same or not.
Could someone compare the rom upgrades to make sure?
Thanks in advance!
Flar
Site admin
Almost... but not quite...
I believe that the IQ is a 'sub'-set or perhaps 'super'-set of the Tornado... I've seen the IQ referred to as the HTC Tornado Noble somewhere, and it seems there are slight differences.
Having said that I have used many cabs/apps from the Tornado which all work very well on my IQ!!
Call rasied with HTC
I've raised a call with HTC. They're normally quite helpfull (sometimes a bit slow).
I'll give an update when I get a response.
these phones are the same platform
please unite the forums to save the space and confusion
XDA IQ IS a Tornado
Innovation is a slogan of HTC's that appears on all their Smartphones, not a model name and the XDA IQ IS the HTC Tornado platform as already mentioned by members jsp_m and spkr4thdd.
It has been shown that once CID unlocked the XDA IQ will accept any HTC Tornado rom.
My understanding is that internal hardware-wise the XDA IQ is identical to the i-mate SP5 and Qtek 8310 with even the case being identical but for different branding.
hey
thank you!
the two phones are in fact one and the same! HTC Innovation is the company slogan.
as jsp_m said, unite the forums!
Hi Guys,
I moved all the posts in the innovation forum to tornado and closed the innovation forum for posting.
Greetz,
Flar
(site admin)
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When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.
I will fully support the opening of this section too.
kta said:
When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.
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Hee kta
So you bought the Prophet (Dopod 818 pro from expansys?). I'm still waiting to fork out the 500,00+ euro's.
Still happy with my Magician.
Is the Bluetooth headset caller id working on the Prophet? (as it was on my P800 2 years ago)
Still little BUGS.... I read device has to be on...
(I keep the device in my pocket off, I want to here who is calling me before I pick up the phone, P800 could do that 2 years ago...)
That would be a BIG + for me to buy the Prophet.
On the other hand I'm missing GPS and 3G. (DECT would be nice 2)
Still hoping a bit for wm 2005 on my Magician or the Bluetooth caller id
to be hacked out of the wm 2005. Although everyone here say’s it’s a hardware problem.
On topic: YES there should be a HTC Prophet forum. I like to read people’s experiences with the device.
there is a special forum for website related matters. don't forget to post there as well.
kta said:
When can we have an forum dedicated to the HTC Prophet? This phone has been out for a month now and this is probably the time where people would need a forum most.
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Is someone going to answer this?
HTC Prophet Forum
PLEASE....
We want HTC Prophet Forum !!!
YES PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! May we have our VERY OWN Forum here??????
Thanks!!!!
voyager
I read on Mobile-review:
HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance
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So I think that's the reason ad/mod do not want to open a new box for HTC Prophet.
xhuy said:
I read on Mobile-review:
HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance
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So I think that's the reason ad/mod do not want to open a new box for HTC Prophet.
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No no no....The Prophet is NOT equal to the Magician in appearance! The Charmer is. :roll:
The prophet is a bit like in appearance but certainly not equal. :wink:
agree ..
prophet at least had wifi (802.11g)
charmer is really like a copy of magician ...
Please read the review:
Review of HTC Prophet by the example of GSM communicator Qtek S200
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance.
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Re Prophet Forum
Hey all
After a month of enjoyment of my wizard, have just managed to sell it on E-Bay and ordered my Prophet (I-Mate Jamin) of Expansys, as did not find the Keyboard quite as usefull as I thought still could not match CalTech Quick writing as an input system, however nice machine if you like keyboards, just wanted a smaller machine with WiFi and had my doughts about the long term durability of the keyboard & stylus, so come lets get that Prophet Forum going its on releas with expansys on Friday and it is a HTC item unlike the XDA atom, and I think it is going to be very popular amoungst the none keyboarders,
Regards Ash'e
Yes looks the best of the new small wm5 devices. I just hope O2 have it in the UK when my contract is up for renewal. I did email them when I saw O2 Germany was releasing it and, of course, got the pointless reply
> Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
>
> I am sorry but we do not have the expected release date for the
> O2 XDA Neo or HTC Prophet.
> Please call our Sales team on 08702 257 879 who will help you further.
> They are available Monday to Friday from 08:30am to 09:00pm and
> Saturday and Sunday from 10:00am to 06:00pm. Calls are charged at
> national rate.
we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum here
Hong Kong-based, but it's all in English... feel free to join us!
Kai920 said:
we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum
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The prophet and the atom are two different devices.
xhuy said:
Please read the review:
Review of HTC Prophet by the example of GSM communicator Qtek S200
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance.
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OK, I've read the review. I still stand by what I said. Also, so Mobile Review it would seem:
The appearance has not changed much from the HTC Magician's time, it just got rounder. Side edges are not splay as earlier, but slightly project. The body is made of a less smooth, almost dull black material (the front part is of metal, and the back and sides are made of plastic).
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It is very similar - but not identical (equal in appearance)
The Charmer is identical.
:wink:
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Kai920 said:
we've got a dedicated HTC Prophet / O2 Atom forum
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The prophet and the atom are two different devices.
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I was merely stating that the forums are active with HTC Prophet & O2 Atom posts.
i created a group of forums for prophet stuff.
willem
Shouldnt this now be moved to that forum ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewforum.php?f=43
Hey guys, while searching around I came across this petition:
To: HTC Headquarters
We, the undersigned, would like to request that HTC releases an official Windows Mobile 6 Professional ROM for the HTC Universal PocketPC Phone.
We do believe that it is unfair, to say the least, to spend up to $1300 or €1000 for a Pocket PC phone, and not have a proper after-sales support in terms of OS upgrades, just one and a half year afterwards.
We do not understand HTC's decision to provide free WM6 upgrades to other PDA models, such as the HTC Advantage, the HTC TyTn, the HTC S620, the HTC P3300, and the HTC 4350, due to them being focused in messaging, and leaving out the HTC Universal, a PocketPC which, due to it's unique shape and hardware QWERTY keyboard, remains highly focused on messaging, office work, and internet browsing.
Over the past months, a number of "cooked" WM6 ROMs for the HTC Universal were released on unofficial websites. Those ROMs, even though being unofficial and thus having a ton of problems, proved to be superior from WM5, both in terms of PocketPC and phone usability, and numerous people use them for everyday use.
So, we kindly request HTC to consider the possibility of releasing at least a Windows Mobile 6 Professional WWE English ROM for the HTC Universal.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
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Windows Mobile 6 for the HTC Universal petition
I highly doubt that something may come out of this, but it's worth trying
I agree with you, who knows??
Good job
Signed. Will spread among the friends...
Petition signed
Can someone sticky this?
Enjoy!
hi
i have signed, requesting do the same,this might work
Regards
hi
i have signed, requesting everyone else to do the same,this might work
Regards
hi all
i have signed, and i'll requesting everyone in www.ce4arab.com
to do the same
Regards
Signed
Will ask other people too.
Who cares about HTC, I thought Imate who sold the device to me, should be providing the wm6 rom.
SIGNED
I'm with you guys 1000000000%
Digs said:
Who cares about HTC, I thought Imate who sold the device to me, should be providing the wm6 rom.
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HTC is the manufacturer of the device HTC Universal. Imate just rebranded it as JasJar. If HTC doesn't do it. No way I-mate will.
Hi
Just signed in!
there are 60 signatures in total as of today... including mine
i think this is a long shot but you have my 1 vote guys!
regards
ethan
Has anyone here inform the HTC about this petition?
btw, SIGNED.
Signed.
I will tell it in spanish forum.
SIGNED
Signed too.
signed..hopefully they give it to us
signed as well.
and now, let's keep our fingers crossed for a few years until the last Uni user dies of old age...
SIGNED
Signed As Well
Signed......lets see hey
Signed, lets hope it works !!
Will we have imate 9502 forum over here, as i am thinking to buy it when it will release.
Edit: I have made a new forum for Imate 9502 login at aboutfone.com
samy.3660 said:
Will we have imate 9502 forum over here, as i am thinking to buy it when it will release.
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is it made by htc??? (no need to answer it here, just think about it)
Not, but even O2 Atom is not made by HTC?
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Not, but even O2 Atom is not made by HTC?
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so you don't know the story bout the atom
read and you will find out. (look up the flame thread)
is it HTC developers or XDA developers?
just thinking
fallenczar said:
so you don't know the story bout the atom
read and you will find out. (look up the flame thread)
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You mean, flame thread as in, people flaming people, or the Xda Flame thread?
Another indicator of if it gets a forum here is "will it ever see thelight of day?" I-Mate's almost as dead as a door nail.
I'm bringing this thread back to push for an I-mate 9502 forums on here. This is honestly one of the main factors on wether or not I will buy this device (if/when it's released). I love this forum and it has helped me so much with my Vox and my Feeler, I would love to have the same support if I were to buy a 9502.
actually, that's a bit unlikely, as it's not HTC-made. The forum has specialized in HTC only so far, save for a few **ahem** Atom**ahem**
I would also love it if XDA-Dev got a 9502 forum.
The phone looks perfect! I actually sold my bnib Voda V1615 / tytn II upgrade to get some cash for it!
However, being Windows Mobile it will doubtlessly be utterly useless without the XDA-Dev geniuses to iron out all the creases.
I don't see why it can't go in here. It's replaced HTC as the XDAs in the southern hemisphere (i-mate's smartphone range).
I don't see why people are so keen to keep the forum exclusively for High Tech Crap anyway. Until the Wizards they've always been terrible (of course I still loved tweaking with them with the help of XDA-Dev).
Actually, not all Southern hemisphere. In Asia, even Southern and Southeastern, HTC still dominates the WM market. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. But the final decision really would be up to the mods, wouldn't it?
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Another indicator of if it gets a forum here is "will it ever see thelight of day?" I-Mate's almost as dead as a door nail.
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Nope, it isn't dead - and, fortunately, they don't return to HTC, as opposed to what the rumors said before MWC.
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Actually, not all Southern hemisphere. In Asia, even Southern and Southeastern, HTC still dominates the WM market. Sorry to burst your bubble mate. But the final decision really would be up to the mods, wouldn't it?
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I'll mention this question too in the Mod forum, albeit, I'm afraid, the answer will be no.
it doesnt matter if there' a imate 9502 forum or not. just use the cab files from this site and put it in Ultimate! i just put PIE 6.1 on Imate 6150!
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it doesnt matter if there' a imate 9502 forum or not. just use the cab files from this site and put it in Ultimate! i just put PIE 6.1 on Imate 6150!
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Some of them will work, but I think a lot of the things that need fiddling with in the registry and I-mate's own bits of software will need device-specific tweaks.
Either way, I can have a tinker, but lack the technical know-how to do anything major. I guess if the device become popular enough we might end up with a forum for it.
Guys and gals, I’ve just posted a HUGE roundup & quick review of i-mate’s all four new devices to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1967268
I read on Whirlpool forums that Telstra Australia will be the first to get the 9502, but someone just posted this:
"Just spoke to my telstra contact and he confirmed the 9502 failed testing was due for release on the 10th of march he said it is likelty to be released on the 24th but that isn't confirmed yet."
Lame. I want it now.
Ultimate 9502 Thread
Surely we shouldn't discount the Ultimate 9502 just because it's not made by HTC.
The 'Welcome' message admits that the name XDA-Developers is pretty arbitrary, it just so happened that an O2 XDA of some model was the first that they happened to have, and that would make it more O2 than HTC.
I would say that what is much more important is that the 9502 is a WindowsMobile Pocket PC, and it will have the same kind of issues as the other Windows Mobile Pocket PCs discussed here, including other I-Mate devices, and especially the Kaiser which has (from what I understand) the same chipset.
So can we have a forum for the 9502 (and I guess the other Ultimates as well)?
Ultimate 9502 Availability
As far as when the 9502 will be available from Telstra, they were able to take my order as of last Thursday. I'd say they would only do that if the issues had been sorted.
Imate 9502 is IN STOCK from here but i not sure how accurate is that!
http://www.devicewire.co.uk/i-mate-ultimate-9502
Is there a JUNO forum within this site. I haven't found one. It's also an HTC phone classified as a smartphone under their code name JUNO. It's also known as theT-mobile Shadow.
I've searched but find the term shadow being used with other phones like Hermes and Prophet which definately are not SHADOW's (JUNO) at least not by HTC's definition.
thanks in advance for any suggestions and help
Dear friends
we really need to add a new section for the new Ultimate 9502 because the WM that the imate put is very bad (to me) this is plus the useless additions they put.
really I miss the cooked roms I used to use on my K-jam and really need to have a cooked one on the ultimate 9502
will I wait so long?
thanx
i have WM6.1 on htc tytn, wm6.1 is FAST!!
i wish some1 cook a wm6.1 for imate 9502!
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan.
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Until that changes only HTC devices on this forum.. I-mate now has its devices manufactured by a different firm.. i believe its tech faith wireless.
thanx
but is there any forum 4 the cooked wm 4 the ultimate 9502 ??
I think we should open a forum only when XDA starts to carry it. We are XDA-developers, not HTC-developers.
I don't get why XDA-Devs is kept exclusively HTC. I mean, back in the day, the name made sense because XDA's were the primary (or only?) PPC phones commercially available.
I guess HTC is still the most popular, and nobody wants XDA-Devs to become saturated with a section for every new device, but surely if other devices get popular it'd make sense to allow people a place to cook roms for them? I'm sure some of the gurus on here must have non-HTC devices, and its a shame that they have nowhere to develop them.
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I don't get why XDA-Devs is kept exclusively HTC. I mean, back in the day, the name made sense because XDA's were the primary (or only?) PPC phones commercially available.
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maybe this site is own and operated by HTC? haha