Sometimes I let my battery run to empty. Everytime that happens I can still hit the power button and my K-Jam will do a soft reset and then turn off shortly afterwards. I let my phone die yesterday when I was on the road. It won't turn on and it doesn't appear to be charging. I checked the battery with a multi-meter and its showing 2.5V on a 3.7V battery. Is this too low for the phone to work? Can anyone think of a reason why it would be completely non-responsive? I bought the K-JAM on ebay and its not really sold in the U.S. Does anyone know somewhere I can bring in my K-Jam to get parts or at least some advice. Thanks for your help.
-Ross
Lithium batteries behave differently from NiCads regarding charge discharge cycles.
Where NiCads *like* to be fully discharged before recharging, Lithium batteries *hate* it. They prefer to be topped up regular and often.
My guess is that you have a dead battery given the way that it has been abused (by being treated like a NiCad)
Really, I thought Li-ion was a deep cycle battery? Well should the phone show any signs of life if it is plugged in and has a dead battery? Is their a way to test the hardware without replacing the battery. If replacing the battery is neccessary. Do you know where I can find one? Thank you very much for all of your help.
-Ross
I had the same problem some weeks ago. If the battery go down to much and wizard switch off then you have big problems because this ppc charge only when OS is loaded!
So if you are not able to switch on to charge it you have to charge the battery outside the phone.
This problem happen to me when i was traveling and i forget my charger at home... I bought another USB cable i cut it to take out the red and black wires, then i take out the battery from the wizard and put red wire on the pin with label (+) and black wire to the pin (-), the pin label are written on the battery. I put attention to don't make shortcuts and that wires and pin was touching and let 15 minutes to charge (natually the USB was attached to my laptop). Then disconnected USB cable from laptop, put the battery on wizard and switched on it pressing the power button few seconds. It booted up and when OS was loaded i connected the normal USB cable to the phone to finish to charge it.
Now i charge the battery before that reach 0%!
Thank you so much, I will try that as soon as I get home tonight. If I understand you correctly it sounds like battery charging is software based and not hardware based, which is a major design flaw. If this is the case I'm going to sell my k-jam, because that is bs. Do you know if Jasjar is designed the same way? Thanks for all of your help.
-Ross
This works !!!!!!!!!!!!
I had the same problem. I thought my battery or my device was defect, but following this instructions I was able to charge my battery again !
THANKS A LOT
had the same problem some weeks ago.
battery was down so low, that after plugging in the wall charger my pda booted, just to switch off again after a few seconds.
so what i did was going into "serial boot mode" - that way imho the pad doesn't turn on wifi, bluetooth, sd card and things like that that drain battery too much. after some time the battery was loaded and i could reset the device and go on working with it.
regards ize|man
dalamario said:
I had the same problem some weeks ago. If the battery go down to much and wizard switch off then you have big problems because this ppc charge only when OS is loaded!
So if you are not able to switch on to charge it you have to charge the battery outside the phone.
This problem happen to me when i was traveling and i forget my charger at home... I bought another USB cable i cut it to take out the red and black wires, then i take out the battery from the wizard and put red wire on the pin with label (+) and black wire to the pin (-), the pin label are written on the battery. I put attention to don't make shortcuts and that wires and pin was touching and let 15 minutes to charge (natually the USB was attached to my laptop). Then disconnected USB cable from laptop, put the battery on wizard and switched on it pressing the power button few seconds. It booted up and when OS was loaded i connected the normal USB cable to the phone to finish to charge it.
Now i charge the battery before that reach 0%!
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You are a lifewsaver -- I woke up this morning to a dead battery and a device that wouldn't turn on and using your tip was able to revive it in a few minutes. I really can't imagine how someone could have designed a device that can't recharge a dead battery. Very dumb.
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naaah
Like someone said..... Italians do it better !
Alessio.
Thanks Dalamario, it worked for me.
A small amount of electrolyte goes a long way
I just found this thread as my O2 Wizard did the same two days ago.
Once I realised which was positive and negative I just applied a fine lick of saliva onto the positive and negative terminals of the battery and the phone's battery terminals.....
Lo and behold, it worked !!!!
Shame I logged a call with O2 earlier today and they are sending out a replacement!!!
Frustratingly I put a friends battery in mine, transferred everything off and emptied the phone's memory!!!! grrrrr, I should have thought about it first.
To add to that...the standard battery is some cheap and nasty Chinese battery.
Sadly, all the aftermarket ones are mostly made in China too!
BTW. Drinking an acidic fizzy drink probably helped the revival process by making my saliva that little more acidic.
Unbelievable.
I had the same problem last night. The phone just went dead while I was working. I could not get the thing to take a charge overnight with a wall USB charger.
I took a cheap USB printer cable. Cut off one side. Isolated the black and red wires. Attached them to the +(red) and -(blk) on the battery for only two minutes. Put the battery back in the phone and turned it on. When it booted up I quickly put it on the USB charger again. And now it is charging as usual.
I guess someone may need to start marketing a USB with blk/red pigtails for emergency charging.
Thank you soooo much!
Dropped my MDA Vario in my pint of beer the other night - had 48 hours of worry as it dried out and things began to work again. Then had the problems described before - not able to charge, red warning LED. Didn't want to put it in for servicing as it is unlocked (and smells of beer!) but found this solution which works perfectly (I used blu-tack to attach the terminals)!
Excellent!
So here's the story..
Flashed the ROM to WM6 (Dr.Dots BlackDiamond 3.1). Had a couple hickups where I had to go through it a coupe times, but after an hour or so, got it and it's worked fine since. Ever since though, I've noticed that my battery meter doesn't reflect the charge of the battery. When I click on the battery icon, it tells me that the battery status us "unavailable" and shows nothing. Got the Battery Status .cab, loaded it on the phone, and it shows a charge of "-1%." Phone dies today on the way home from work. Plugged it into my car charger and nothing. It won't charge there at all. I can leave it pugged in for about 20 minutes and attempt to turn it on and it'll come up into the white and pink "tmobile" screen then dies out. Same thing when I plug it in here on the desktop. When I plug it into the actual home charger, it comes up, charges and I have the LED illuminated on the MDA.
My question is, has anybody else experienced this and what is the fix? I've seen a couple threads about "jumpstarting" and whatnot, but I've got to believe that there is another problem that isn't allowing me to charge with a car charger or a usb desktop charger. I never had this problem with the POS Tmobile ROM so I'm not thinking its a hardware issue at all.
Can anyone out there let me know if there's something I'm doing wrong? I don't know if there's a software conflict with the stuff I have on my MDA or if there are issues with my current IPL/SPL/GSM/OS that aren't allowing it to function correctly.
Any help is alway appreciated.
Thanks guys,
Ivan
nobody has any ideas???
So my battery status shows -1% with the empty bar. 100% signal...can't be right, never is always 100%. And the temp shows a steady 32* F...Im in my living room and it ain't that cold.
Maybe remove and reinstall it??
Isn't there supposed to be some kind of battery status indicator on most WM6 ROMs??? I have nothing at all...
-Ivan
Ok, don't anybody rush to help a brother out....lol!
SO I flashed to 2.47.11 Radio and all of the sudden, guess what?
That's right, I now have a battery status showing and I can charge from the computers USB port...
Friggin phenomenal.
So hopefully the new Radio ROM won't give me crap when it comes to actual calls.
Anybody else running this Radio? Experiences with it?
Thanks again,
Ivan
As i said on the title,suddenly i couldn't recharge my Universal anymore,yes i've tried with a brend new official battery as well but everything was in vain.As soon as i plug my charge to my Universal it appear a Red Led and after 3 min or so the led turn off and so the battery.
How can i fix this problem?!
Is there any chance?!
Is it really dead like that?!
Please HHHHHHHEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the battery is really brand new, then I guess the connectors might be damaged or the internal power buses might be broken somewhere. Have you dropped your device recently? Or did anything that might explain broken connectors or internal buses?
Nothing happened to my device and never felt down,it just happened suddenly!Now if i won't be able to fix this by myself this means a finger in da a.. cuz my warranty is expired!DAAAAAAAAMN
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Nothing happened to my device and never felt down,it just happened suddenly!Now if i won't be able to fix this by myself this means a finger in da a.. cuz my warranty is expired!DAAAAAAAAMN
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It can be a software error. Have you tried hard resetting or installing another ROM?
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It can be a software error. Have you tried hard resetting or installing another ROM?
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That's the point!!!
I was trying to update to WM6 but something went wrong and stucked in boot load screen!Then my battery died but when i've tried to charged again i had that problem!!!
tetsuokaneda said:
That's the point!!!
I was trying to update to WM6 but something went wrong and stucked in boot load screen!Then my battery died but when i've tried to charged again i had that problem!!!
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Your battery is fine, unfortunately your device broke
Unless you have a lot of specialized equipment at home, and the proper qualifications, there's no way in hell you can fix this. I'm sticking with my diagnosis, that either the power routing circuit broke down, or a power bus inside the device.
Really, your best off taking it back to the store, and paying for the repair. Either that, or buying a new phone, and selling this one for spares...
Sorry mate...
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Unless you have a lot of specialized equipment at home, and the proper qualifications, there's no way in hell you can fix this. I'm sticking with my diagnosis, that either the power routing circuit broke down, or a power bus inside the device.
Really, your best off taking it back to the store, and paying for the repair. Either that, or buying a new phone, and selling this one for spares...
Sorry mate...
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I wanna die!!!I'm completely Fu.. up!!!
What a terrible news!I can't believe it!!!!
If i'll bring my phone to the assistant i'm gonna pay alot of money,at least 200.00 euro!!!!
similar problem
i had the exact same thing happen to my EXEC when i got 2 new batteries for it. One was a standard sized, pretty much the same as the stock one that came with the phone and one was a much larger capacity one that needs an extra cover for the back.
Id been using the device for ages on this huge battery and the charge said 100% constantly. then the device turned itself off and it wouldnt come back on. upon connecting the charger the LED was red, so i thought the battery was dead. I left it on charge over night and when i tried again the next morning it was fine.
this happens everytime with this battery, it just needs a much longer charge than the standard one, and doesnt register properly on the default OS, i havent tried it on my recent upgrade to one of the midget roms.
so try leaving it on charge over night or for a very long time. if all else fails just get a new battery.
That might reset the battery back to life, but I wouldn't exactly count on that. A battery with a broken monitor circuitry is pretty hard to reset.
My last hope,i'm gonna leave charging my phone for a day and then see what happend....I'm desperate
Permanent red light...
I had this problem, I put the phone on charge but forgot to put a battery in - spare phone... It wouldn't work no matter what I did , until I reformatted the DOC by following the steps in the WIKI.
wtpelzer said:
I had this problem, I put the phone on charge but forgot to put a battery in - spare phone... It wouldn't work no matter what I did , until I reformatted the DOC by following the steps in the WIKI.
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Could u post it please?!
Took a while but here it is...
I did the task 28 55aa command in MTTY which should reformat the DOC alternatively you could reload the bootloader using the link below...
MTTY with "task 28 55aa", "set 14 0", "set 14 9, "set 14 10" and "set 14 20" as described. bootloader screen may be replaced with a blank one, boot it on bootloader mode by "Backlight+Power+Reset"
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Resets
now upgrade as usual.
If you stuck on the bootloader again after upgrading, try to upgrade the bootloader itself go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1255206&postcount=52
This link gives full instructions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289325&highlight=task+28+55aa
Hope this helps.
Same Problem, Led Indicator Always red
Hi,
We have the same situation, my jasjar just died in my hands, im reading a txt messages then al of the sudden it hangs, so what i did is reset it but it didnt power on, i removed the battery then after 10mins i put it back but then no power,then i charged it but it didnt power on too and the led indicator is always red, they say that if the indicator is red it means that there is no battery or the battery is missing but i check it thoroughly,the battery is perfectly place on the back of jasjer, i even tried to enter to bootloader but it cant. If anyone knows how can i revive my jasjar pls pls let us know....Thank you so much.
So sad till now there's no single solution.....
wtpelzer said:
I did the task 28 55aa command in MTTY which should reformat the DOC alternatively you could reload the bootloader using the link below...
MTTY with "task 28 55aa", "set 14 0", "set 14 9, "set 14 10" and "set 14 20" as described. bootloader screen may be replaced with a blank one, boot it on bootloader mode by "Backlight+Power+Reset"
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Resets
now upgrade as usual.
If you stuck on the bootloader again after upgrading, try to upgrade the bootloader itself go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1255206&postcount=52
This link gives full instructions :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289325&highlight=task+28+55aa
Hope this helps.
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Exactly if my Jasjar is completely dead how can i connect via usb and then use mtty?!
I'm losing my hope to bring it back to live!
have same problem - can do nothing, still waiting
but there is one thing - led flashes once, when i put the charger into the device - but it does nor light, nor flashes - exactly nothing happens
If your device is dead...
Well just to answer the question, if the battery is dead and you can't charge it because of a red LED. I suggest you buy a standalone charger from ebay and charge the battery or get someone else to charge it for you. Then follow the steps as I stated in my previous post...
wtpelzer said:
Well just to answer the question, if the battery is dead and you can't charge it because of a red LED. I suggest you buy a standalone charger from ebay and charge the battery or get someone else to charge it for you. Then follow the steps as I stated in my previous post...
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The point is that the device is dead and that is why the constant red light. I have a device that is stuck on the splash screen (no solution in sight) and another that fell down and broke. The one that fell down does not power on. If you put a charged battery ang plug in the charger nothing happens, no light comes on, but if you put a discharged battery the red light comes on. I have a third Uni that I accidentally flashed with a BA rom. It is behaving exactly like the broken uni, it does not turn on, does not go into bootloader and the red light comes on when I plug in the charger with a discharged battery in it.
For some things, there's just no cure...
Okay I understand where you're coming from but essentially what you need to do, under normal circumstances, is connect it to your PC, which if the device is working at all the PC will detect it but not connect... In the case of two of your Uni's I don't think this will help - the dropped one and the BA ROM failure. The one with the Red LED, which has stopped working could be a component failure on the board or it could be a Corrupt DOC table. Now to get back to how you'd go about fixing it if it is a corrupt DOC table, when you connect it to the PC and the PC detects it you disable ActiveSync and start MTTY it should give you the option of connecting to the USB port, when it does this if you get a prompt the problem should be fixable because MTTY can "talk" to the device... As for the other's try this method and if it doesn't work sell them for parts or canabalise the one for parts for the other...
So whenever I charge the phone, it just shows a battery with a question mark inside it. I am not sure if it is a battery problem since the battery is not easily accessible.
It is a little weird to hear this, but did you make sure that you actually pluged in the power cable into the outlet? Because there couldn't some kind of exclamation mark in the battery sign appear if you pluged the phone. If the problem doesn't resolve, try turning off the phone and charging while turned off (completely) If it doesn't resolve the issue, then factory reset it. If that doesn't work, then say good bye to your little friend for a couple of days becuase your gonna give it to a person that will probably fix your phone. (Probably)