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hi,
Having just purchased my M500 today im a noob to all things magician and m500!
Looking around this interesting site i notice a lot of talk about big storage. Sorry if this question has been asked before, but what is big storage?
Lets say i di the big storage thing......would i then loose my current orange rom on my device?
Is it easy to do? I've updated the rom on my c500 and that was straight fwd, can sombody explaain to m500 noob, but is willing to learn!
luvin the site.
I have a m500, and i have changed the original rom (as suplied with the m500) to bigstorage.
It wipes out the hidden partion that is used to brand the phone and increases the "storage" partion (which as default is around 7mb) to 27mb, the only downside is that the branding apps that are hidden are no longer on your device.
This means that when you hard reset the device you will have to manualy choose the files to install.
Imp
Thats a great explanation, thanks.
I've been messing around so far, and i think i understand the whole process. Coudl you just confirm this for me?
I have downloaded the big storage rom WWE.111 from the ftp and swapped the first 416bytes in hex editor with the first 416bytes from my rom which i've got from my ohone. i then load the edited WWE.111 big storage rom back into my m500 using the sd card method. An that will give me a bigstorage rom?
could somebody post the extrom of the m500 please ?
thanks
M500 Rom upgrade
I have been trying to upgrade it to 1.12 ROM, however when I used ntrw to write it onto my SD card, it said parameter incorrect, then when I flash my M500, it said Check Sum error. Any remedy? Also has anyone tried the Radio 1.13?
EggZenBeanz, thats right. should give you bigstorage....remember to ignore the error messages on your phone after you copy the rom from your sd card.
Dutty, there is already the orange m500 ext rom on the ftp site.
vz7, they are the same errors that i got when i big rom'ed mine (even tho i am still on rom 1.06 (not worried in upgrading the rom as yet)
as i said in the other post, i upgraded to 1.13 radio rom last night with no problem.
EDIT
if anyone wants my desciption of the orange ext rom (what each cab files do) give us a shout. i went though them one by one and isntalled them, to see if i wanted them or not.
Imp
Thankyou for clearing these things up. As the post suggested im a noob to all this, so i wanted to get it clear in my mind on top of reading all the tuts i could find.
So, when the rom hack has been applied and is working. i get 25mb extra storage, and i should loose all the clearview stuff etc.. Thats cool cheers.
Impossible said:
EDIT
if anyone wants my desciption of the orange ext rom (what each cab files do) give us a shout. i went though them one by one and isntalled them, to see if i wanted them or not.
Imp
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I wouldn't mind a discription of the cabs on the rom as im just about to "Go large".
I wouldn't mind a list of what each file does either - I'd thought about doing a big storage hack on my m500, but there wasn't anything available last time I checked.
Presumably I can copy all the files for the storage area onto my SD card, and save them for later?
Where abouts is the ROM on the ftp site? I couldn't see anything that specifically mentions the m500...
Edit - OK, I think I understand now...I found a useful guide that I followed.
The only problem is, I've only got a 1gb sd card, so the hex editor won't open the rom image after I've dumped it! Is there any way around this, or do I need to get 128mb card?
The file of the descriptions is a bit scruffy atm, i will tidy it up and post it again soon here. (scruffy file attached to this post, you need to be logged into the forums to dl'ed it)
the path to the m500 ext rom is ..... i cant connect to the ftp atm.
I backed up the ext rom on my desktop pc, and put the vital cabs on a sd card that i have spare and keep in my wallet, just incase the rom resets.
I had a similar problem to dan13l when i dumped the rom, the ntrw.exe app is a bit of a pig, as it dumps a image of the sd card, and not of the actual rom.... i used a 256mb card, i suppose you could partion the 1gig card to around 256mb then try it out?
something that i didnt read was, when performing the rom dump, is that the sd card will be fully erased during dump. So back it up if you need the data on it.
one word about one of the cabs in the ext rom, OrangeUK_ActionE_Connection.cab is a odd one. It encloses some apps that i didnt like installed on my m500 but it has the gprs settings inside it, i have managed to pull these out and put them in there own cab. This helps prevent installing the annoying "action" programs
Imp
Thanks for that Impossible.
I noticed you've mentioned another MMS version in that text file, is there an updated mms app somewhere?
I found the ext rom on the ftp - that'll come in handy I'm sure.
There appears to be three ways of applying the big storage hack:
1) Apply a rom with Big Storage already hacked into it. This involves copying the first chunk of the standard rom using a hex editor and pasting it over the new rom. Correct?
2) Manually edit two bits of hex on a dumped rom, and reflash using the modified version.
3) Run a tool against a dumped rom to make the changes for you.
Now, I was working towards 2 until I had my sd card problem. I'm going to buy a 256mb card on my way home tonight and try with that. Am I right in thinking that if I dump my m500's rom, then apply the hex changes, that rom could be used for all m500's? As I understand it, option 1 is only relevent if you're applying a rom from one device to another (so a Jam to an M500, for example)?
So, in theory, once one of us has managed to modify the m500 rom (as you've done already, Impossible) then that rom image could be uploaded and used on all m500's? Also, if someone uploads an unmodified m500 rom, that could be used to revert back later if needs be...
Is all this correct? I think I'm starting to get my head around things.
the comments in the cab file description are a bit funny, its my own personal scrall that i found out over the test i did on the cabs, i think i found newer vesions on the ftp and installed these apps instead of the ones that orange comes with, and the "about" on the app confirmed this.
I will revisit the file soon and tidy it up making it more helpful.
i dumped my m500 rom (with the intention of keeping the 1.06 version that came with my m500) then i used mksBigStoragerENG.exe to patch it to bigstorage.
If anyones intrested in me uploading the 1.06 rom with big storage i will, but you have to remember that this has not got any orange branding on. the next step if you did use this rom would be to apply the choosen cab files to apply the settings/apps you want.
Also, i dont mind uploading the original rom (complete with the ext rom) but i think that was on there when i last looked at the ftp.
dan13l, i did just realise, even if you formated your 1gig card to a smaller size, the dump will clear that out
prehaps you could find a different hex editor? or even use the mksBigStoragerENG.exe app that I used to patch mine, instead of a editor (which reverts the rom file from your storage card size, back down to its original size of around 62mb)
Imp
Yay! It worked
Now I just need to reinstall everything.
I'll post everything I did later, got to go and eat something now!
Impossible - thanks for your help. Do you have the GPRS settings you extracted? I don't want to have to install the whole action engine thing...
Thanks again all.
All sorted - I managed to extract the gprs settings myself and create a cab.
FYI - the latest MMS app I found was dated May, and doesn't appear to work on the m500. I've not tried the March version yet.
GPRS settings etc are available on buymobilephones.net
V
Noob alert
Is there a nice HTML guide which tells a muppet how to do this? How to keep any Orange apps copied somewhere else and re-install after the hack IF wanted? A list of the additional Orange apps and what they do?
Thanks.
Meth
can someone post the link to the orange extrom - i can't find the ftp....
cheers
al
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Magician/Extended_Roms/M500_WWE1.06.175/
Methanoid said:
Noob alert
Is there a nice HTML guide which tells a muppet how to do this? How to keep any Orange apps copied somewhere else and re-install after the hack IF wanted? A list of the additional Orange apps and what they do?
Thanks.
Meth
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Go to the link posted by sporkguy and download everything - that's the contents of your extended rom.
Next, go here: http://tinyurl.com/dhgoc
That's about the best guide I've found (although there are a couple of good ones on this site). Follow the steps on there to use the mksBigStorager executable to patch your rom.
I think it would be possible to upload a pre-patched rom image for the m500 to the ftp, and simply write that to an sd card (using the last section of the guide linked to above).
Please can you take a loo at this screen grab. What do i stand to gain from the storage hack? This piccy is pre storage hack.
1) Problem:
was running on 1.11 with extROM 1.03, wanted to upgrade to TMO 1.13 but there was a country id error.....so i did a hard reset and reset again b4 it run the autoconfig thing. then the extROM folder came up(which i think is the bigStorage thingy) and no more extROM. tried the upgrade again but same result...so i ran the cab files or watever u call those in the extROM folder 1 by 1. some of which i think was needed for my mini to run w/o any problem.....now extROM back running on 1.11. So how do i upgrade.
2) Queries:
if i were to clear the extROM folder by copying them into my PC/thumbdrive/CD(for safekeeping,in case something bad happens), then copy the important ones into my SD card and run them...can my mini still work?
Been playin around a little but still need a lot more to learn. Can some1 please educate me.
Thanx in advance.
hi,
There are two main thread's about upgrading to tmo 1.13
- upgrading to radio 1.13...
- tmo official 1.13...
You can find all the needed info there including a BS 1.13 rom available at the ftp & a patched shipped-rom also available on the ftp
Cheers, M
Hello ppl
The other day i made my first bigstorage using rom 1.12.05PTB from i-mate, it run perfectly... no boot delays, random cold boots... nothing...
Yesterday i felt the need to test the new 1.13 rom and radio WWE, everything ok... no problem. but then i felt the need to go back to my language... and updated to 1.12.05PTB again but now without bigstorage...
Now the problem is that my storage simpy disapeard... how can i get it back?
Help please?
Goes back to BigStorage and fill up your /storage with 8-10MB (exceed 7MB) then put your wanted rom. New Rom will format your /storage and u it will come back without BigStorage.
Thanks. I will try it asap and post the result.
Thanks pmquan. it worked just fine
Mine is not formating.
I copied the same file more than once on the storage and had 9,7 MB usage.
Then i flashed with a official update and storage was back again.
But some of the files are also there, and i cant delete. i will try another time with one big file tommorow.
So, it seem that this solution not working.
After my last post i tried with one 12 mb file. Storage was missing.
Back to Big Storage and did it again with a 9 MB File. Storage was missing.
Last try was with 9 1MB files. Storage was missing.
Any suggestions?
Try to use 2 files 3MB don't fill over the 7MB... It worked for me hope it works for you to.
I fixed it!
Seems that the issue was that i did the bigstorage with an wwe rom upgrade, and than revert to tmde rom.
This morning i created a new bigstorage with a tmde rom, put all files from extrom in the storage ( i wanted to check if autorun would work if i put it in there - no success ). After that i flashed it again with the orig tmde rom, and during ce rom upgrade ther was a failure. Hard Reset, still in bootloader and started the upgrade again. After successfull upgrade i now have back my storage, with no files in it, and i can write and delete.
Now it could be that it was because of the:
- wwe<->tmde differences
- the failure during the upgrade ( whatever this could have done )
- just a little help from my guardian angel ( i only borrowed it from a colleague for a project where i needed this device, and i think he would bo not very happy without storage )
Maybe i will try it again if a can get my hands on an magician when one of my colleagues orders a new device... But for now i´m finished. Thanks.
Please help help........
yesterday, I flashed my wizard ipl&spl to 3.08 and flashed the rom wizflo 2D again, then bad things occurred, some shortcuts in the programs cannot be opened ,and it displayed " (The file battleship cannot be opened with a trusted certificate,or one of its component cannot be found.If the problem persists,try reinstalling or restoring this file.) " but some of the "xxx.exe" software can only be opened in SDcard. Then i flashed the rom back to Mobile 5.0 but the problem still persisted . please help , Thank you very much !~~~~
try flashing the 2.26 ipl spl.
it could be that the programs you installed to the storage card may not work anymore because they do not have the nessesary registry entries. some programs that get installed to storage card have a few files installed on to device. if those files and reg entries are no longer there, then the app will not function.
windows mobile 5 has security enabled for unsigned apps. most of the roms that we cook have a package called "security off" which is incorporated in to the rom one way or the other.
If this is not the issue, then post more details.
S.V.I said:
try flashing the 2.26 ipl spl.
it could be that the programs you installed to the storage card may not work anymore because they do not have the nessesary registry entries. some programs that get installed to storage card have a few files installed on to device. if those files and reg entries are no longer there, then the app will not function.
windows mobile 5 has security enabled for unsigned apps. most of the roms that we cook have a package called "security off" which is incorporated in to the rom one way or the other.
If this is not the issue, then post more details.
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S.V.I:
I'm really appreciate for your help, I have just flashed 2.26 SPL&IPL and hardreset, but problem was not solved . for instance" after flashed 2.26 spl , i again installed the Xtra Games.CAB(which i download from CR86 Touch HD Expansion_Pack_02) into device(not sdcard), but the battleship still cannot be opened . the "xxx.exe"(not .CAB) software such as " HandDee.GTuner.v1.2.1,, PhoenixStudio.1.1" which I download from web are all registered. and I put them in sdcard and send shortcut to programs, they all worked normally before yesterday. And yesterday after the problem occurred , I have tried format the SDcard and first flashed the OS back to TNT 1933 then flashed back to windows mobile 5 custom-ruu-wizard-1050412-wwe-101-11210wwe.. The problem was all persisted..... now i don't konw what to do & so worried...
Thanks you very much S.V.I
problems have been solved
Ha ha.....
This morning, when i used Lokiwiz02 to unlock my wizard before flashing rom, I noticed an error display when CID unlocking,and I unlocked again, it still displayed the error, then I searched Lokiwiz03a at wiki.xda http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Unlock_Sim
then its unlocked correctly,and i flashed the OS again, Finally the shortcut problem didn't exist, it works allright now!
recommend a good RMVB Plugin for Windows Media Player, This Plugin was extracted from N800, I download it from here http://www.aray.cn/archives/2306 and tested, it works good !
yzy503cx said:
Please help help........
yesterday, I flashed my wizard ipl&spl to 3.08 and flashed the rom wizflo 2D again, then bad things occurred, some shortcuts in the programs cannot be opened ,and it displayed " (The file battleship cannot be opened with a trusted certificate,or one of its component cannot be found.If the problem persists,try reinstalling or restoring this file.) " but some of the "xxx.exe" software can only be opened in SDcard. Then i flashed the rom back to Mobile 5.0 but the problem still persisted . please help , Thank you very much !~~~~
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Try myExtensions
Hi,
I've got a Touch Cruise that I've flashed several times three days ago.
First I've done the hardSPL flash, CID unlock and SIM unlock.
After this I've flashed with a 6.1 rom (M-Amine 2.0) but I was seaking for a more "finger-friendly" UI so I've tried Kostas's C2 rom.
It's after flashing with Kostas's C2 rom that the problem first appeared. After a hour I could'nt launch any software. As File Explorer was already executing, I tried to launch exe files directly, but there were no more files in phone storage memory.
I softreset the device and it failed to boot (everlasting windows starting logo).
I've hardreseted the device and it booted successfully.
So I flashed the device with pcarvalho eXtreme :
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [23557] (non3D) [16-Apr] (fixed)
It flash well, run for two or three hours and I noticied that my ringtones mysteriously changed to the default one. Using the File Explorer I checked the content of storage memory and it was all corrupted. Missing folders, files with non-alphanumeric names in root folder...
After a hard-reset my phone works well.
Things I've done after each installation : Contact+sms restore using PPCPimBackup, TomTom installation (7.918.xxx)
My Rom :
OS Version : 5.2.23557
Radio Version : 1.59.46.12
Anybody knows where can it come from ?
Thanks
Boudin said:
Hi,
I've got a Touch Cruise that I've flashed several times three days ago.
First I've done the hardSPL flash, CID unlock and SIM unlock.
After this I've flashed with a 6.1 rom (M-Amine 2.0) but I was seaking for a more "finger-friendly" UI so I've tried Kostas's C2 rom.
It's after flashing with Kostas's C2 rom that the problem first appeared. After a hour I could'nt launch any software. As File Explorer was already executing, I tried to launch exe files directly, but there were no more files in phone storage memory.
I softreset the device and it failed to boot (everlasting windows starting logo).
I've hardreseted the device and it booted successfully.
So I flashed the device with pcarvalho eXtreme :
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [23557] (non3D) [16-Apr] (fixed)
It flash well, run for two or three hours and I noticied that my ringtones mysteriously changed to the default one. Using the File Explorer I checked the content of storage memory and it was all corrupted. Missing folders, files with non-alphanumeric names in root folder...
After a hard-reset my phone works well.
Things I've done after each installation : Contact+sms restore using PPCPimBackup, TomTom installation (7.918.xxx)
My Rom :
OS Version : 5.2.23557
Radio Version : 1.59.46.12
Anybody knows where can it come from ?
Thanks
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it can be a many number of things...but you can start by check the card first...every time you go from one rom to another check it and save things (important ones)
now you can only try to get things back with getdataback (always worked with me)...
cheers
Thanks for the answer. It's not my storage card that lose data but phones internal storage memory.
It happened again just now, while installing a cab file.
I've got the impression that it's linked to cab installer since the other times I have installed a CAB to (tomtom) but it could be the fact that cab installer is writing data on defective memory.
Is there a way to test the internal storage memory in order to check if the problem is hardware ?
Finally it happened again, without cab install, without any manipulation after the hard reset.
I switched back to M-Amine 2.0 (WM 6.1) and it seems to have resolved the problem.
It's like the file system driver used in windows mobile 6.5 don't works well with my phone, wich can explain the file renaming, file disappearance, directory loss etc...
I would like to have a solution to switch back to WM 6.5 and a more recent version of HTC applications, so if anybody have any idea where can it come from...
Sorry to post three messages in a row, but there may be a thing I misunderstood.
In Pcarvalho rom thread I've seen this :
There seem to be HR and MC losing data issues with some roms, so i recommend flashing a htc original rom and only then this one, before proceeding as always make a backup of all data before attempting to use this rom...
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But I don't know what HR and MC stands for here.... Is this concerning only the Storage Card or phone's Internal memory can also be problematic ?
I may have to flash back to an official rom before try again a WM 6.5 rom.
The problem have disappeared since I'm back to a WM 6.1 rom
Boudin said:
Sorry to post three messages in a row, but there may be a thing I misunderstood.
In Pcarvalho rom thread I've seen this :
But I don't know what HR and MC stands for here.... Is this concerning only the Storage Card or phone's Internal memory can also be problematic ?
I may have to flash back to an official rom before try again a WM 6.5 rom.
The problem have disappeared since I'm back to a WM 6.1 rom
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i've been trying with android while waiting for pcarvalho next release. i am using task29 and radio.nbh to clean up the rom. what i noticed is that ( and i believe) task29 does not really clean the ROM, because after flashing many times android ( and i always use Task29, then flash android rom) the problem that i have ( lock SD card and its r/o status) did not disappear. i've been switching from rom to rom to rom (different build) , trying to elimante the problem. at last i flash back pcarvalho's rom back, than task29, than back to android. the problem solve. i donno may be because task29 only perform quick format instead of full format. the problem stays. i think ( maybe i am wrong) the bigger the size of the rom file is better as it rewrite the whole rom instead of small section of rom.
i guess...
It's surely something like this, i've just flashed with an official rom and flashed with pcarvalho's one and this time it works like a charm. (by the way, thanks to all cookers for their works).
So the problem is resolved, I had misunderstood the problem of data loss as it does not affect only the storage card data but also phone's internal storage memory.
Thanks to all.