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I have MDA on T_Mobile UK and would like to upgrade to the latest rom but am confused by so many posts and different lanuages.
Could anyone just tell me
1) How to back my rom up incase of problems
2) How to get the latest english rom with the patch for more memory
3) How to install it
4) How to put all the t-mobile settings back ie GPRS etc
TIA
I have an MDA Compact from T-Mobile UK and I upgraded with the Q-Tek 1.11 ROM doing the rounds. I forgot all about the ext rom, but after I upgraded I restored a full backup I had created using Sprite Backup. I asked on this forum if restoring the backup negated the ROM upgrade in any way, but no-one seemed to know. Anyway, all the T-Mobile customisation came back and there have been no problems since.
AS soon as I can get a proper T-Mobile ROM I will upgrade with this.
hi mate after you restored your backup did you still have the qtek rom on the phone?
Yes. I get the qtek splash screen when I reboot, and if I go to 'Device Information' I get this:
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date: 03/14/05
Radio version: 1.11.00
Protocol version: 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.01.128 WWE
Hi
Thanks for the reply how did you do the update was there any error messages that need to be ignored?
Also going to use sprite backup later have you got any tips?
Thanks
Not really - the whole thing was completely painless for me. Just follow the instructions to the letter.
Sprite Backup is great - I get it to automatically backup my PDA to an SD card each night so I always have an up-to-date backup.
Is there a trial version of sprite backup of do I have to buy it?
What instructions did you follow would be good to just do the same as you as it work rather than me stuffing it up.
Thanks
scgf said:
Not really - the whole thing was completely painless for me. Just follow the instructions to the letter.
Sprite Backup is great - I get it to automatically backup my PDA to an SD card each night so I always have an up-to-date backup.
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cool whats your phone like now? is it any better?
My MDA Compact is really no different after the upgrade - it would be useful to know exactly what should be better. I still can't send files to it using bluetooth.
Last night I re-did the ROM upgrade but this time I reinstalled all my apps and only used Sprite to restore documents etc. rather than the whole system. I think this is a better way forward, although on Sprite's website there is a section on how to correctly use Sprite Backup to restore after a ROM upgrade - have a look at http://tinyurl.com/dhzrp
I downloaded a T-Mobile UK CAB file which adds back all the T-Mobile settings without the garish pink colour scemes.
The instructions I followed are in this thread http://tinyurl.com/863qt - as you work through you will get an idea of what to do. In there somewhere I seem to remember someone posted a simple guide.
I have a qtek s100 rom buymobiles.net or something like that.
I used the program to hack your own rom for Extended storage - made a safe backup first to keep on my PC, just in case, hacked the ROM, flashed it back on the phone and it worked fine. There are a number of error messages that come up, but they're all to be expected, but do follow the instructions carefully and they'll put your mind at ease.
After the flash, you get 27mb of "Storage" instead of the previous 7mb. I've got a 1gig card so it doesn't make much difference to me, but it's useful, and worth doing at the start so you don't have to re-install everything if you do bite the bullet later and apply the hacked ROM.
The hacked ROM will be a copy of your own ROM, so nothing will change ROMwise, however, I foolishly overlooked the fact that that space comes from somewhere, in this case it wipes out the intellidialer and some other gubbins. I had no backup of these, but forunately it's all stored away on the XDA developers FTP. Someone more informed than I can correct me, but I think the only files you really need to reinstall are the intellidialer. Also squirrel out the cab that contains settings for your network, orange, O2 etc (i haven't found these, they're on XDA developers somewhere bu i forgot where! Drop me a line if you find them...)
Once you've done that - well, your phone is pretty much as it originally was, but with a bit more storage for free. not a bad thing.
I would flash the ROM and then reinstall rather than doing a Sprite Backup/Restore, since the registry will be in a very different state after the ROM flash. However, i don't think it'll do any harm.
Sprite Backup is certainly worth getting hold of, and keep a copy of your backup on an SD card and your PC in case your phone gets 'half inched'.
Hope that helps.
Vijay
questions and answer
Try this site for uk gprs network settings
http://www.buymobilephones.net/smartphone_setup.ihtml
Hope this is hat you were after???
also......pls could you tell me .....
what rom version did you use for your upgrade?
how does the phone benefit from upgrading, in terms of "real world" use?
can you upgrade the storage to the stated 20+mb without upgrading the rom version?
can you use any rom from any country from any model and network or do you have to find an exact match eg UK T mob MDA compact?
sorry for the million questions...i have been reading this site for days and have ended up dazed and confused....
riz- there's a tool that will modify any normal rom to the extended rom version.
Extended Rom provides you with a pseudo "Storage Card" called "Storage". if you check the control panel > system > memory > storage you should have about 7mb. Using the extended rom hack, you will hack 27mb, at pretty much no cost to you; this is very useful for storing backups, installation files, photos etc, or anything that you never want to lose, since this space is usable by you, but won't be lost if the phone runs out of battery at any time (unlike the phone's normal memory, that will be wiped if there's a prolonged loss of power). Although using a big SD card is an even better way to do this, it's useful to get teh 27mb for free if it's available i think.
To get the 27mb, find the tool in the upgrading magician forum to hack any rom to bigrom http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22582&highlight=anansky+rom.
Then, use the backup procedure described on that page to copy your own ROM from your phone to your pc. (you'll need an SD card and a card reader to do this). make a backup of that file
Then, use the prog to hack your own rom, then flash it back to your phone. Then your phone will have exactly the same rom as it had before, but better. You will lose some of the guff that was there before, but as i said perviously, this can all be downloaded from XDA forums.
So, I heartily recommended this just for the convenience of being able to store backups etc securely etc..
V
thanks for the very indepth instructions... still a bit scared to try it ...only got the phone yesterday....prob wait another hour or so...he he he
thanks again......
hope that link was useful??
any experience on using dual sim...the type you cut up???
I have finally done the 1.11 upgrade and all working fine thanks for your help. I have also noticed theat 1.12 is out now !!! going to wait for some feeback before trying it.
solarsystems said:
I have finally done the 1.11 upgrade and all working fine thanks for your help. I have also noticed theat 1.12 is out now !!! going to wait for some feeback before trying it.
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Are there any notable differences between your old rom version and the 1.11.?? I hear the 1.12 has been received with mixed reception…
thanks
Thanks for the cab settings!
Yeah, I guess you might as well patch directly to 1.12, although it's annoying that there's no update history etc to show what's been "improved"!.
I've just bitten the bullet and ordered the ebuyer SD wireless card (£26 delivered, 50% cheaper than ebay!). Hope it's ok, quite worried about it. But, when i did the Big Rom I had this in mind - although my main card is 1gig, obviously I'll have to pop it out to use the sd. so, I can keep essential apps in the 27mb, rather than feeling cramped in 7mb. Makes sense, no?
V
MDA on O2
Hi there,
I have just bought an unlocked MDA compact but can't get it to work on O2!
Can anyone help me?
Cheers,
Evan
I have an unlocked MDA connected to Tesco Mobile (actually uses the O2 network) and it works fine.
What exactly is the problem ?
Stu
Stu,
Thanks for your reply.
The MDA that I have seems to be unlocked as I have it on Orange at the moment, but, when I put my O2 sim card in it just says that there is no service!
Evan
The only thing that springs to mind is that Orange is on a different frequency to O2 so maybe you need to check the network preferences to make sure that it is set to automatic.
Stu
hi,
Having just purchased my M500 today im a noob to all things magician and m500!
Looking around this interesting site i notice a lot of talk about big storage. Sorry if this question has been asked before, but what is big storage?
Lets say i di the big storage thing......would i then loose my current orange rom on my device?
Is it easy to do? I've updated the rom on my c500 and that was straight fwd, can sombody explaain to m500 noob, but is willing to learn!
luvin the site.
I have a m500, and i have changed the original rom (as suplied with the m500) to bigstorage.
It wipes out the hidden partion that is used to brand the phone and increases the "storage" partion (which as default is around 7mb) to 27mb, the only downside is that the branding apps that are hidden are no longer on your device.
This means that when you hard reset the device you will have to manualy choose the files to install.
Imp
Thats a great explanation, thanks.
I've been messing around so far, and i think i understand the whole process. Coudl you just confirm this for me?
I have downloaded the big storage rom WWE.111 from the ftp and swapped the first 416bytes in hex editor with the first 416bytes from my rom which i've got from my ohone. i then load the edited WWE.111 big storage rom back into my m500 using the sd card method. An that will give me a bigstorage rom?
could somebody post the extrom of the m500 please ?
thanks
M500 Rom upgrade
I have been trying to upgrade it to 1.12 ROM, however when I used ntrw to write it onto my SD card, it said parameter incorrect, then when I flash my M500, it said Check Sum error. Any remedy? Also has anyone tried the Radio 1.13?
EggZenBeanz, thats right. should give you bigstorage....remember to ignore the error messages on your phone after you copy the rom from your sd card.
Dutty, there is already the orange m500 ext rom on the ftp site.
vz7, they are the same errors that i got when i big rom'ed mine (even tho i am still on rom 1.06 (not worried in upgrading the rom as yet)
as i said in the other post, i upgraded to 1.13 radio rom last night with no problem.
EDIT
if anyone wants my desciption of the orange ext rom (what each cab files do) give us a shout. i went though them one by one and isntalled them, to see if i wanted them or not.
Imp
Thankyou for clearing these things up. As the post suggested im a noob to all this, so i wanted to get it clear in my mind on top of reading all the tuts i could find.
So, when the rom hack has been applied and is working. i get 25mb extra storage, and i should loose all the clearview stuff etc.. Thats cool cheers.
Impossible said:
EDIT
if anyone wants my desciption of the orange ext rom (what each cab files do) give us a shout. i went though them one by one and isntalled them, to see if i wanted them or not.
Imp
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I wouldn't mind a discription of the cabs on the rom as im just about to "Go large".
I wouldn't mind a list of what each file does either - I'd thought about doing a big storage hack on my m500, but there wasn't anything available last time I checked.
Presumably I can copy all the files for the storage area onto my SD card, and save them for later?
Where abouts is the ROM on the ftp site? I couldn't see anything that specifically mentions the m500...
Edit - OK, I think I understand now...I found a useful guide that I followed.
The only problem is, I've only got a 1gb sd card, so the hex editor won't open the rom image after I've dumped it! Is there any way around this, or do I need to get 128mb card?
The file of the descriptions is a bit scruffy atm, i will tidy it up and post it again soon here. (scruffy file attached to this post, you need to be logged into the forums to dl'ed it)
the path to the m500 ext rom is ..... i cant connect to the ftp atm.
I backed up the ext rom on my desktop pc, and put the vital cabs on a sd card that i have spare and keep in my wallet, just incase the rom resets.
I had a similar problem to dan13l when i dumped the rom, the ntrw.exe app is a bit of a pig, as it dumps a image of the sd card, and not of the actual rom.... i used a 256mb card, i suppose you could partion the 1gig card to around 256mb then try it out?
something that i didnt read was, when performing the rom dump, is that the sd card will be fully erased during dump. So back it up if you need the data on it.
one word about one of the cabs in the ext rom, OrangeUK_ActionE_Connection.cab is a odd one. It encloses some apps that i didnt like installed on my m500 but it has the gprs settings inside it, i have managed to pull these out and put them in there own cab. This helps prevent installing the annoying "action" programs
Imp
Thanks for that Impossible.
I noticed you've mentioned another MMS version in that text file, is there an updated mms app somewhere?
I found the ext rom on the ftp - that'll come in handy I'm sure.
There appears to be three ways of applying the big storage hack:
1) Apply a rom with Big Storage already hacked into it. This involves copying the first chunk of the standard rom using a hex editor and pasting it over the new rom. Correct?
2) Manually edit two bits of hex on a dumped rom, and reflash using the modified version.
3) Run a tool against a dumped rom to make the changes for you.
Now, I was working towards 2 until I had my sd card problem. I'm going to buy a 256mb card on my way home tonight and try with that. Am I right in thinking that if I dump my m500's rom, then apply the hex changes, that rom could be used for all m500's? As I understand it, option 1 is only relevent if you're applying a rom from one device to another (so a Jam to an M500, for example)?
So, in theory, once one of us has managed to modify the m500 rom (as you've done already, Impossible) then that rom image could be uploaded and used on all m500's? Also, if someone uploads an unmodified m500 rom, that could be used to revert back later if needs be...
Is all this correct? I think I'm starting to get my head around things.
the comments in the cab file description are a bit funny, its my own personal scrall that i found out over the test i did on the cabs, i think i found newer vesions on the ftp and installed these apps instead of the ones that orange comes with, and the "about" on the app confirmed this.
I will revisit the file soon and tidy it up making it more helpful.
i dumped my m500 rom (with the intention of keeping the 1.06 version that came with my m500) then i used mksBigStoragerENG.exe to patch it to bigstorage.
If anyones intrested in me uploading the 1.06 rom with big storage i will, but you have to remember that this has not got any orange branding on. the next step if you did use this rom would be to apply the choosen cab files to apply the settings/apps you want.
Also, i dont mind uploading the original rom (complete with the ext rom) but i think that was on there when i last looked at the ftp.
dan13l, i did just realise, even if you formated your 1gig card to a smaller size, the dump will clear that out
prehaps you could find a different hex editor? or even use the mksBigStoragerENG.exe app that I used to patch mine, instead of a editor (which reverts the rom file from your storage card size, back down to its original size of around 62mb)
Imp
Yay! It worked
Now I just need to reinstall everything.
I'll post everything I did later, got to go and eat something now!
Impossible - thanks for your help. Do you have the GPRS settings you extracted? I don't want to have to install the whole action engine thing...
Thanks again all.
All sorted - I managed to extract the gprs settings myself and create a cab.
FYI - the latest MMS app I found was dated May, and doesn't appear to work on the m500. I've not tried the March version yet.
GPRS settings etc are available on buymobilephones.net
V
Noob alert
Is there a nice HTML guide which tells a muppet how to do this? How to keep any Orange apps copied somewhere else and re-install after the hack IF wanted? A list of the additional Orange apps and what they do?
Thanks.
Meth
can someone post the link to the orange extrom - i can't find the ftp....
cheers
al
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Magician/Extended_Roms/M500_WWE1.06.175/
Methanoid said:
Noob alert
Is there a nice HTML guide which tells a muppet how to do this? How to keep any Orange apps copied somewhere else and re-install after the hack IF wanted? A list of the additional Orange apps and what they do?
Thanks.
Meth
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Go to the link posted by sporkguy and download everything - that's the contents of your extended rom.
Next, go here: http://tinyurl.com/dhgoc
That's about the best guide I've found (although there are a couple of good ones on this site). Follow the steps on there to use the mksBigStorager executable to patch your rom.
I think it would be possible to upload a pre-patched rom image for the m500 to the ftp, and simply write that to an sd card (using the last section of the guide linked to above).
Please can you take a loo at this screen grab. What do i stand to gain from the storage hack? This piccy is pre storage hack.
Seems like T-Mobile have brought out their second maintanance release, supposedly including blackberry (jumps up and down, then realises blackberry is overhyped and overpriced).
Downloading it now from
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_com.html
From the filename it appears the radio stack is still at 1.12, but I'll check once it's on.
Apologies if this is old news but I couldn't find any reference to it so far.
Technology hates me
Computer decided to reboot during ROM flash, feck knows why. Luckily it seems the TMO upgrade utility can restart its flashing procedure even though connection was lost.
Don't mind computer problems if they got some kind of sense to them, but randomly just restarting for the first time since I built it during the most ackward time just proves to me that computers are both evil and have a since of twisted irony.
Any improvement
Any improvement in this release?
I have been using the May update (BigStorage applied) since July fairly successfully.
I don't want to go through this if it's not worth it, so would appreciate advice from anyone who has applied it first.
Thanks
Well it's now got Blackberry support, whoopty f***in do. Also the radio version is still 1.12 so that has to be updated seperatly. In the 15min its been alive I havn't noticed any major changes but never really expected to.
Will post if I experience any problems or notice anything lifechangingly amazing about this new ROM. Would be nice if people using this ROM could do the same.
BTW anybody got a list of the ExtROM files and their comparitve uselessness? I went through the 1.12 ROM with a CAB manager but really can't be arsed this time round. Probably just install the whole lot through shear laziness. On second thoughts the BB client takes up 1.3Mb, so like f**k am i letting that onto my baby.
Hi Herman,
Why not go for BigStorage as you're not using the ext-rom. In the upgrade to radio 1.13 you can find how to do it from the shipped rom & on the ftp there's a bs 1.13 rom present, based on the Dutch TMO version so WWE, but use your own ext-rom files for specific UK settings.
Cheers, M
Cheers
Sorry, didn't really put it right. Already had the 1.13 radio downloaded and just installed it after, was no worries there. As for the BigStorage ROM, I've never particularly liked the idea, especially after reading problems people have had reverting back to the old storage configuration. I'm quite happy with my 512Mb SD card, wouldn't really use the extra space in storage anyway.
Cheers for your thoughts though mate
Ps had the new ROM up and running for few hours now, not noticed any glaring issues apart from that damn lack of BT serial ports issue but thats the radio not the OS ROM.
BigStorage
Finally gave in and overcame my fears. Applied the BigStorage hack to the latest TMO ROM as I read on here that it's reversible. Well seemed to have gone smoothly, although the increased hard reset time at the begining nearly made my heart stop.
If anyone wants I can upload the latest TMO official ship (1.13) with BigStorage hack, which doesn't need the SD card flashing method. Can do straight over USB.
Just post a msg if you want me to upload.
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Seems like T-Mobile have brought out their second maintanance release, supposedly including blackberry (jumps up and down, then realises blackberry is overhyped and overpriced).
Downloading it now from
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_com.html
From the filename it appears the radio stack is still at 1.12, but I'll check once it's on.
Apologies if this is old news but I couldn't find any reference to it so far.
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that doesn't work with my jam ... i still can't figure out how to update my ROM.
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herman3101 said:
Finally gave in and overcame my fears. Applied the BigStorage hack to the latest TMO ROM as I read on here that it's reversible. Well seemed to have gone smoothly, although the increased hard reset time at the begining nearly made my heart stop.
If anyone wants I can upload the latest TMO official ship (1.13) with BigStorage hack, which doesn't need the SD card flashing method. Can do straight over USB.
Just post a msg if you want me to upload.
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i would love to have that...right now im experimenting some of the roms thats available. i would like to give it a try. please upload it here or on the ftp. thanks mate.
One thing, this EXT ROM is 1.13 128 while NL EXT 113 ROM is 131. Which one we should use??
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i would love to have that...right now im experimenting some of the roms thats available. i would like to give it a try. please upload it here or on the ftp. thanks mate.
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Hi parklife,
Still strugling to get it done? I gues herman3101 will upload a modified nk.nbf. Hope you succeed with it. At least I did with a patched nk.nbf. Can't upload myself for a few days as I'm not in the neighborhood of my PC. It's just me & my magician and I'm not complaining.
Cheers, M
Uploading now
Well I'm uploading the ROM up to the ftp now. I've included the updated nk.nbf as well as all the files needed to do a USB install. The files were small enough for me to think well why not. Once that's been uploaded I'll check the download section and find a link for you all.
Further to the guy who couldn't update his ROM, being kinda vague there buddy but I'll see what I can do. If you would be so kind as to follow these instructions pretty much to the letter then we should be OK:
- Hard Reset your MDA (press power button at same time as reset)
- After the selecting your time zone do a soft reset to avoid the customization process
- Plug your fresh MDA into your USB and wait for ActiveSync to bring up the connection wizard, select Guest partnership
- With your MDA still plugged in but in Guest mode just double click on the file you downloaded of T-Mobile and follow the onscreen instructions.
If you still have problems after following those steps then don't hesitate to reply but please be more specific so we don't have to guess what your issue is.
Will post a message when the BS ROM is up on the ftp
PS Well with the BigStorage ROM it obviously doesn't matter which ExtROM, but I would always go for the one from your provider so if you are with T-Mobile UK then go for their ExtROM because your guarenteed compatibility
Link to the ROM
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Magician/WWE_TMO_1.13 Official Release with BS.zip
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Magician/
The first is a direct link which probably won't wok because of the way I named the file and the second is a link to the folder which it is in.
I have to be honest I have no idea how to move this ROM into it's appropriate folder under Magician/BigStorage ROMs but o well. You'll find it where I've specified.
BTW the file attached is a list of my interpretations of what the 1.13 ExtROM files do. By no means conclusive or correct, its just what I've noticed them do during a stage by stage install and looking for clues inside the cabs.
herman3101,
Album & camera are bundled in the cab. That's the only flaw I noticed in your nice description.
Probably a moderator will move your file to the download section. Guess that's what happened to my BS rom as well. Thanks for uploading your files. It takes me ages to upload those files with my magician.
Good work & seems you're right on my track with decisions making for BS. Only I messed my first try completely and that's something I'm not wishing to anyone. Just waiting for the first hard-reset to finish is enough I think.
Regards, M
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Hi parklife,
Still strugling to get it done? I gues herman3101 will upload a modified nk.nbf. Hope you succeed with it. At least I did with a patched nk.nbf. Can't upload myself for a few days as I'm not in the neighborhood of my PC. It's just me & my magician and I'm not complaining.
Cheers, M
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oltp, i tried your ROM, everything works fine, but it seems the clock stuck on 24 hour format, usually i can change it into 12 format just like i want it, but the Dutch ROM seems did not offer 12 hour format. But i trully appriciate your time and effort fot uploading the ROM
thanks oltp.
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herman3101 said:
- Hard Reset your MDA (press power button at same time as reset)
- After the selecting your time zone do a soft reset to avoid the customization process
- Plug your fresh MDA into your USB and wait for ActiveSync to bring up the connection wizard, select Guest partnership
- With your MDA still plugged in but in Guest mode just double click on the file you downloaded of T-Mobile and follow the onscreen instructions.
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hey herman, thanks for the upload, i got it to work on my M500. But i would like to add something on the set up. You need to do some extra steps to avoid the the ID ERROR 120. Ok here ya go:
-Extract the rom
-edit the RUU.conf with notepad, add [CHECKCEID_TYPE]=1 on the top
-copy MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe from ftp to the extract folder
-press power, camera and rest on your magician
-plug the magician to the USB
-AND execute the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe
-follow instuction
I waited for 4 minutes till i got my welcome mode.
for more info go check on the ampda how to's pdf file
thanks for herman3101, oltp, and ampda, now i have the perfect rom that i will keep for some time.
Hey Parklife,
Glad you finally made it. Don't think the Dutch rom is any different from the UK rom, both are 1.13 WWE TMO. Except for the ext-rom ofcourse. Managed to get my time on 'h:mm am' too with the english (us) region.
Good thing is that everyone can choose of three methods, to get this BS rom, whichever way they're feeling most comfortable ith and that has been different before.
Cheers to all of you.
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parklife said:
hey herman, thanks for the upload, i got it to work on my M500. But i would like to add something on the set up. You need to do some extra steps to avoid the the ID ERROR 120. Ok here ya go:
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Cheers for complementing the post, didn't include it because my MDA is from TMO UK so I don't need to do that step.
PS I've been running the ROM for a little while now and it seems as stable as ever
hey, one more question for you guys...after i install the Camera_Wizard_Magician_T-Mobile_WWE_RC28_Customize.CAB, my magician clock changed into 24 hours clock format. I tried to change it into 12 hours format on regional setting - date like oltp said, but could not change it back to the 12 hours format...have you guys had the same problem? no biggies, i just not use to the format.
Parklife,
I noticed that the clock changes only after I alter the 'time style' on the time tab (sample changes immediately) go to another tab and then touch the clock on my programbar. Changing the region seems not necessary. Yesterday I fiddled a bit with the settings, now I used a more structural approach.
Cheers, M
Hi all,
Almost everytime I check the forum I see a lot of rom upgrade & BIG Storage questions. Apparently not everyone is familiar with the wiki and search options on the board. That's a shame cause almost all the questions are answered in the already existing threads. So why a new thread about the same topic?
1. I'm chauvinistic and want my name on the board ;-)
2. To aggregate a part of my knowledge in one place for easy access.
3. To promote the wiki
- So if you tried to upgrade your rom and got an error 120: follow this description http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade
- If you failed in upgrading your rom somehow & now you're stuck in the bootloader: just make sure usb connections are allowed in Active Sync, connect your magician with usb to your PC and run the rom upgrade program again.
Sometimes it helps at this stage to downgrade ActiveSync to version 3.8 (see the post from benenglish).
- If you need to go to bootloader for any reason (including incorrect rom upgrade) press 'camera, power and soft-reset' all at the same time for some seconds, till your screen fades and reads: Serial V1.0x. When you connect it to usb it should read ' usb V1.0x
- If you want to change the language from your magician (not including from or to Greek, cause those roms and devices are protected), just use http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade again.
- If you want to flash your magician with a charmer or any other rom, please don't you will loose your device when you kill your bootloader and that's very likely to happen while flashing a not suitable rom.
- Want a WWE BIG Storage rom the easy way? Follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade and download ftp://xda:[email protected]_NK.nbf/BIG_Storage_nk_for_rom_1.13WWE.zip This NK.nbf is patched for BIG Storage, you only need to put it in the directory with the extracted shipped-rom.
- Want a BIG Storage rom in any language the easy way? Download a shipped-rom from the ftp or any telco and follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade
- Want to get BIG Storage via a SD Card flash, read it here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianSDflash
- Don't know what BIG Storage is? It is your ext-rom (with the operator customization cabs) exchanged for a larger internal Storage folder. So remember to backup those cabs before upgrading.
- When you want to revert from BIG Storage to the original Storage and ext-rom combination, make sure you put > 8MB data in your Storage folder before flashing it back with a normal rom. Otherwise you'll loose your Storage folder completely :-(. Seems that this might be a solution & doesn't work for everyone. Try it if reverting with empty \Storage folder isn't successful.
Any questions left, I guess so. Now don't be scared and put them on the board, nobody is going to eat you (at least not straight away) and someone will answer.
But remember that when this topic is still visible in the first page of this board I will probably stop answering new threads about BIG Storage and rom upgrading questions, I've done that for 5 months now and I'm starting to loose my interest.
Regards, M
Ps If you're really stuck in a rom upgrade & can't get it working, last resort is to pinpoint me to a location where I can download your rom-dump or the shipped-rom & I can prepare it for you. All it takes is a cup of coffee on my, for now, virtual world trip. Got Italy, Cyprus, Argentina, Asia, UK, Germany, Belgium, Greece, Turkey & US allready. So if you're living in any other country, especially Indonisia, Australia or New Zealand, be my guest.
Great job OLTP..
Your the man :lol:
- If you failed in upgrading your rom somehow & now you're stuck in the bootloader: just make sure usb connections are allowed in Active Sync, connect your Magician with usb to your PC and run the rom upgrade program again.
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AND USE ACTIVESYNC 3.8
My upgrade was stuck at this stage - removed Activesync 4.0 - Installed 3.8 and ran the firmware update again - its now "Upgrade Radio Stack - Please wait" with the progress bar going along on the screen.
Hope this helps
I've heard/read more complaints about Act.Sync 4.0. Though 4.0 is working flawless on my side, every contribution that works is valuable information. I updated the first post with it.
Thanks
Big storage
I did a big storage for my Mini by using a copy of my rom, changing the bytes as told in the guide to upgrading with a HEX Editor. I have installed programs to new storage gained but my main memory is showing very little memory. I have no programmes installed in main memory. What should I do now ?
How much memory have you got free. I got now, on my fully loaded device, 9.6MB storage & 22.5MB program memory occupied.
Did you happen to load all the cabs you copied from your ext-rom again? Those cabs install in RAM.
Cheers, M
stotage lost
pls help... i lost my storage when i flash my mini in my stock shipped rom i followed instruction of olps to soted data at least 8mb of files but it didnt works still lost my storage...
how can i back it again..is there any hope?..
thanks
First thing to do is to load the BIG Storage rom again. This should give you back the \Storage folder.
Now did you use the same rom version for BIG Storage as your original rom version? Some do claim it needs to be at least the same country version.
So pls try to revert to the same version only without BS & you can always try with an empty \Storage folder.
Seems that some tricks work out different on several devices.
Good luck, M
First thing to do is to load the BIG Storage rom again. This should give you back the \Storage folder.
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thanks i got my storage is back...
Now did you use the same rom version for BIG Storage as your original rom version? Some do claim it needs to be at least the same country version.
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yes i flash it wid the same version i followed the instruction on your post to be able to back the extended rom..
ill try again for the 2nd time...ill post if i succed
many thanks oltp
Can I upgrade my Mda compact 2 also with a sd-card like the compact ?
When I make a hardreset with the card in the slot, i cannot chosse to install from sd-card.
That's something I don't know. Try one of the board's for WM5 devices like the Wizard. Maybe you can find your info there.
Success, M
[edit] could you append it here too pls, if you find it?
Hi OLTP,
Right now I have 8.04mb free in storage memory (big hack). In MAIN memory around 3.10 mb in program memory (in use 23.47 mb). Storage (main) - in use 28.29 mb and free 2.55 mb. This keeps going less and less so from time to time as I use and close programs. So I keep doing a soft reset. I get critical memory short error. What do I do.
Should I flash with my saved original ROM (the one I had before doing the hack) and then immediately flash the saved Big Rom ? Please let me know. You are the Guru.
@ Galahad: What kind of software did you install after the update? & how's the memory pressure right after a hard-reset (don't forget to make a proper backup first)?
Do you use cabinstl to install cabs to another location then 'default' (which is RAM)? & tell Act.Sync to install to Storage or Storage Card, otherwise your RAM will be used up very soon.
My advice no need to reflash right now, a hard-reset should be sufficient to see what is causing your prob.
M
After the hack I had installed couple of commercial software, all into storage memory thru active sync which prompts you where you want to install. I choose storage memory (26.92). I keep doing this for all the commercial software I need to install. When I finished doing this I had 6 mb free. so far so good. Then I started installing cabs files from Ext Rom copy on harddisk, with cabinst. These were smart dial cab, O2 connect and a few other (which I thought necessary) cab files. These too I installed into storage memory. If my memory serves me right, I started experiencing a sudden slide down in memory after this. Before this I had around 25 mb memory free. Then suddenly the slide down in memory. In fact Resco today plug in shows me the dramatic slidedown as if the memory is getting sucked down a black hole.
I will do a hard reset as suggested by you and then load my software into storage memory. This time I will not install cab files from Ext Rom. Is that OK ?
Your O2 software is def. causing your probs. If you need some apps from it, try WinCECabManager. With it you can see which files are stored where on your device. After cab installation you can move them to eg. \Storage\Windows & change all links & reg keys referring to those files. Or change tea cab-file of course. It can take some time, but ves a huge amount of RAM.
M
Thanks ! I will try your suggestion. Have never used WINceCab Manager. Hope it is not too technical.
Not for me, it's a bit like explorer. But then again I'm not standard.
Some good news !
Like I said, I had around 24 mb free memory after the big storage hack (after installing all applications, whether in storage memory or storage card).
The good news is that all my FREE MEMORY has come back. Don't know really how it happened. I was using my blue tooth device which I switched thru the icon on the screen bottom right.
In error I touched the icon to rotate screen orientation. When I finally got my orientation correctly, I also got all my lost memory.
IMAGINE THAT !
Thanks for all your quick responses and great help you gave me. I will surely emulate you helping ways.
oltp said:
Hi all,
- Want a WWE BIG Storage rom the easy way? Follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade and download ftp://xda:[email protected]_NK.nbf/BIG_Storage_nk_for_rom_1.13WWE.zip This NK.nbf is patched for BIG Storage, you only need to put it in the directory with the extracted shipped-rom.
But remember that when this topic is still visible in the first page of this board I will probably stop answering new threads about BIG Storage and rom upgrading questions, I've done that for 5 months now and I'm starting to loose my interest.
Regards, M
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Dear OLTP, I am not able to find the patched nk.nbf on the ftp. Kindly check it is not there.
When I use nbfdec.exe for decoding the NK.nbf it gives me crc error and the decoding fails. whereas with the same set of NK.nbf,ms.nbf and radio.nbf I have success fully upgraded my magician to WWE1.13 with radio1.13 Kindly help
Hi,
I've got a Touch Cruise that I've flashed several times three days ago.
First I've done the hardSPL flash, CID unlock and SIM unlock.
After this I've flashed with a 6.1 rom (M-Amine 2.0) but I was seaking for a more "finger-friendly" UI so I've tried Kostas's C2 rom.
It's after flashing with Kostas's C2 rom that the problem first appeared. After a hour I could'nt launch any software. As File Explorer was already executing, I tried to launch exe files directly, but there were no more files in phone storage memory.
I softreset the device and it failed to boot (everlasting windows starting logo).
I've hardreseted the device and it booted successfully.
So I flashed the device with pcarvalho eXtreme :
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [23557] (non3D) [16-Apr] (fixed)
It flash well, run for two or three hours and I noticied that my ringtones mysteriously changed to the default one. Using the File Explorer I checked the content of storage memory and it was all corrupted. Missing folders, files with non-alphanumeric names in root folder...
After a hard-reset my phone works well.
Things I've done after each installation : Contact+sms restore using PPCPimBackup, TomTom installation (7.918.xxx)
My Rom :
OS Version : 5.2.23557
Radio Version : 1.59.46.12
Anybody knows where can it come from ?
Thanks
Boudin said:
Hi,
I've got a Touch Cruise that I've flashed several times three days ago.
First I've done the hardSPL flash, CID unlock and SIM unlock.
After this I've flashed with a 6.1 rom (M-Amine 2.0) but I was seaking for a more "finger-friendly" UI so I've tried Kostas's C2 rom.
It's after flashing with Kostas's C2 rom that the problem first appeared. After a hour I could'nt launch any software. As File Explorer was already executing, I tried to launch exe files directly, but there were no more files in phone storage memory.
I softreset the device and it failed to boot (everlasting windows starting logo).
I've hardreseted the device and it booted successfully.
So I flashed the device with pcarvalho eXtreme :
pcarvalho eXtreme (3.60.WM65X) ROM 3.19 R0 Release (101MB RAM) [23557] (non3D) [16-Apr] (fixed)
It flash well, run for two or three hours and I noticied that my ringtones mysteriously changed to the default one. Using the File Explorer I checked the content of storage memory and it was all corrupted. Missing folders, files with non-alphanumeric names in root folder...
After a hard-reset my phone works well.
Things I've done after each installation : Contact+sms restore using PPCPimBackup, TomTom installation (7.918.xxx)
My Rom :
OS Version : 5.2.23557
Radio Version : 1.59.46.12
Anybody knows where can it come from ?
Thanks
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it can be a many number of things...but you can start by check the card first...every time you go from one rom to another check it and save things (important ones)
now you can only try to get things back with getdataback (always worked with me)...
cheers
Thanks for the answer. It's not my storage card that lose data but phones internal storage memory.
It happened again just now, while installing a cab file.
I've got the impression that it's linked to cab installer since the other times I have installed a CAB to (tomtom) but it could be the fact that cab installer is writing data on defective memory.
Is there a way to test the internal storage memory in order to check if the problem is hardware ?
Finally it happened again, without cab install, without any manipulation after the hard reset.
I switched back to M-Amine 2.0 (WM 6.1) and it seems to have resolved the problem.
It's like the file system driver used in windows mobile 6.5 don't works well with my phone, wich can explain the file renaming, file disappearance, directory loss etc...
I would like to have a solution to switch back to WM 6.5 and a more recent version of HTC applications, so if anybody have any idea where can it come from...
Sorry to post three messages in a row, but there may be a thing I misunderstood.
In Pcarvalho rom thread I've seen this :
There seem to be HR and MC losing data issues with some roms, so i recommend flashing a htc original rom and only then this one, before proceeding as always make a backup of all data before attempting to use this rom...
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But I don't know what HR and MC stands for here.... Is this concerning only the Storage Card or phone's Internal memory can also be problematic ?
I may have to flash back to an official rom before try again a WM 6.5 rom.
The problem have disappeared since I'm back to a WM 6.1 rom
Boudin said:
Sorry to post three messages in a row, but there may be a thing I misunderstood.
In Pcarvalho rom thread I've seen this :
But I don't know what HR and MC stands for here.... Is this concerning only the Storage Card or phone's Internal memory can also be problematic ?
I may have to flash back to an official rom before try again a WM 6.5 rom.
The problem have disappeared since I'm back to a WM 6.1 rom
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i've been trying with android while waiting for pcarvalho next release. i am using task29 and radio.nbh to clean up the rom. what i noticed is that ( and i believe) task29 does not really clean the ROM, because after flashing many times android ( and i always use Task29, then flash android rom) the problem that i have ( lock SD card and its r/o status) did not disappear. i've been switching from rom to rom to rom (different build) , trying to elimante the problem. at last i flash back pcarvalho's rom back, than task29, than back to android. the problem solve. i donno may be because task29 only perform quick format instead of full format. the problem stays. i think ( maybe i am wrong) the bigger the size of the rom file is better as it rewrite the whole rom instead of small section of rom.
i guess...
It's surely something like this, i've just flashed with an official rom and flashed with pcarvalho's one and this time it works like a charm. (by the way, thanks to all cookers for their works).
So the problem is resolved, I had misunderstood the problem of data loss as it does not affect only the storage card data but also phone's internal storage memory.
Thanks to all.