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problem with the universal in north america

so can anyone tell me if I am right? Here in north america we are just starting to get UMTS in some areas. And I have been waiting for the universal wanting to get one. but our north american umts network is on the 1900 mhz band mode and the rest of the world uses the 2100 mhz band mode for umts. that meens that the universal will have its umts radio on 2100. So does that meen it wont work here as a umts device and I will be stuck with just gprs?? if so I just cant buy it

Hi,
AFAIK, all UMTS phones, so the Universal, are GPS phones as well. So, form a technical point of view you can use the phone whereever there is reception. At least here in germany,the GPS service provider are the same as the UMTS service provider. So, if you leave a UMTS zone the phone automatically logs into the GPS zone. I would expect that it is the same in the US.
rgds
marco
EDIT: Now I have read your message completely and see, that I provided an answer that does not match your question 2nd try: I would expect that if you get your UMTS device via an US provider that it matches its UMTS band. But, without coverage you are stuck with GPRS/GPS, thats right

ARGH, that sucks. because Im sure that by the time they make a north american universal it will be outdated anyway :roll:

I tend to agree. I thought that with UMTS whis crazy frequency problem would disappear finally....
I just checked on the german t-mobile page, which has the Universal, T-Mobile MDA Pro as they call it, on their page.
Unfortunately there is no UMTS frequency mentioned. Maybe there is one generic UMTS setting which allows different frequencies to be used, and all UMTS devices support all the frequencies?
OK, that might be a bit optimistic, I agree ...
Edit:
I got interested and checked for the UMTS frequency situation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS
So, even with the special US situation, the UMTS frequencies are not connected to contries but comminucation methods (FDD, TDD). So, as long as the UMTS implementation in the US does not differ from the ITU standards, you should be able to use the Universal in the US. But even the above mentioned wiki page is not clear on the situation, so probably you will have to wait and see ...

Oh well I guess I will just have to wait for the wizard or maybee even (Forgive me) a non htc device???
if the wizard has a slower prosesor than my magician I just cant buy it either. and I have my magician tweaked up to 520mhz

I know this is off-topic
I have my magician tweaked up to 520mhz
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what program are you using for that...??
I tried PHM and it hang :evil:
then I tried XCPUScalar.. and it worked, I could overclock it to 520 MHz, but when I tried Beta-Player to benchmark the device.... it said 416 MHz..
and when I used lower speeds.. Beta-player and the XCPUScalar gave the same result
so I could only under-clock my device, but I couldn't overclock it...
are you sure that your device is running at 520 MHz?? and if so, is it stable??and any noticeable improvement in performance??
thanks in advance

Heres the deal my friends in the US.
And btw....its really not good news at all....
http://pocketpcdubai.com/index2.htm

How to use the full radio frequency range?

Hi, I´m living in Germany and when going in the US, I want to use the full frequecy range of the built in Radio of my Orbit XDA (= Artemis 3300?) The "German" Radio uses only range from 87,5 Mhz - 108,0 Mhz. Can somebody help me? Thanks in advance
Horst

[Q] Recommended Radio for model A8183

Is there a newer recommended radio for the following model
A8183(Telstra Australia): AMOLED or S-LCD touchscreen
Supported networks: HSDPA/WCDMA: 850/2100 MHz & Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I see new radio images but i dont know which ones i can use if any?

TheFatHobbits said:
Is there a newer recommended radio for the following model
A8183(Telstra Australia): AMOLED or S-LCD touchscreen
Supported networks: HSDPA/WCDMA: 850/2100 MHz & Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I see new radio images but i dont know which ones i can use if any?
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A desire s with an AMOLED screen?
would highly recommend the latest leaked radio, see my signature for details, although I live in UK, but then again I've used an telstra ROM and radio before.
Swyped from HTC Desire S using XDA Premium

A8183 is desire i think..not desire s...

LOL yeah A8183 is a HTC Desire not a HTC Desire S, and when I used my Desire all the radios felt the same on Telstra's network.

TheFatHobbits said:
Is there a newer recommended radio for the following model
A8183(Telstra Australia): AMOLED or S-LCD touchscreen
Supported networks: HSDPA/WCDMA: 850/2100 MHz & Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I see new radio images but i dont know which ones i can use if any?
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Don't go flashing radio's unless you really need to. It seems to be little understood how dangerous it is!

Well that's why i asked which radio, in case i needed to flash it. i keep seeing people mention flash radio this/that but i wanted to be sure.
All good, i dont want to flash it because its working fine, more informational.
thanks

and dont flash radio for desire s to desire if u dont wanna brick phone

Global Radio?

Just out of curiosity for my roommate here with me in Qatar, I have a question... I don't think it's even possible but I told him I would do some research. Is there a way to make the inspire 4G pick up quad band umts like my incredible 2 does? For instance like flashing a different radio? Thanks for any feedback
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Without trying to be too short, no.

Android's Radio Interface Layer (RIL) provides an abstraction layer between Android telephony services (android.telephony) and radio hardware. The RIL is radio agnostic, and includes support for Global System for Mobile communication (GSM)-based radios.
The Android radio interface is radio-agnostic and the Vendor RIL can use any protocol to communicate with the radio. Android provides a reference Vendor RIL, using the Hayes AT command set, that you can use as a quick start for telephony testing and a guide for commercial vendor RILs
A signal at baseband is often used to modulate a higher frequency carrier wave in order that it may be transmitted via radio. Modulation results in shifting the signal up to much higher frequencies (radio frequencies, or RF) than it originally spanned. A key consequence of the usual double-sideband amplitude modulation (AM) is that, usually, the range of frequencies the signal spans (its spectral bandwidth) is doubled
The simplest definition is that a signal's baseband bandwidth is its bandwidth before modulation and multiplexing
SO I guess HD DESIRE HD listens to 2100 band FOR 3G
while HTC INSPIRE 1900 BAND FOR 3G
AND 3G IN INDIA HAS 2100 BAND
So i guess it should make things work
Im not sure about everything.
Waiting for adminsitrators and senior members to correct me

Agoattamer said:
Without trying to be too short, no.
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It is a hardware thing. No genius explanation needs to be given. And Inspire 4G/Telus Desire HD is HSDPA 850 / 1900. European/Asain Desire HD is HSDPA 900 / 2100.

Agoattamer said:
It is a hardware thing. No genius explanation needs to be given. And Inspire 4G/Telus Desire HD is HSDPA 850 / 1900. European/Asain Desire HD is HSDPA 900 / 2100.
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I figured as much so but developers do some awesome things. Didn't know if maybe a port could be made from the DHD to the Inspire.
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xM Minton Mx said:
I figured as much so but developers do some awesome things. Didn't know if maybe a port could be made from the DHD to the Inspire.
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Waiting for senior developers to correct me,
Im not at all sure.

xM Minton Mx said:
I figured as much so but developers do some awesome things. Didn't know if maybe a port could be made from the DHD to the Inspire.
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You can't port hardware.

Cb radio

Hey everyone, just a question that I've not been able to find a definite answer to.
Is it possible for an android phone to pick up and send a signal on the cb radio frequency? I know there are apps out that simulate this but you can only talk to people who have said app, I want to see if I can use my phone to talk to someone with an actual radio
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As a General Class Ham Radio Operator in the US, I can safely say I've yet to hear of a phone with such a radio in it. Citizen's Band, or CB, operates within the 11m band (~27MHz), and neither Cellular or WiFi radio are near there. Cellular radio is normally in the 850, 900, 1800 and/or 1900MHz bands, depending on your particular phone/carrier/location, and WiFi is in the GHz.
However, there is an application for Echolink (which you WILL require a valid Ham Radio license to operate, even for the mobile app), and using that, you could theoretically connect to a Link or Repeater client, and if they had a radio capable of CB/10m broadcast, that would work. However such a client is unlikely to be found -- most Echolink/IRLP Nodes that exist are not on HF (where CB is), they're mostly all VHF and/or UHF.

Thanks for replying with so much info..
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