OK i have both the xda2i and the mini s, i have only installed the O2 upgrades from them... i have never hacked or modded the units in any way. if i need to i will need complete idiot guides to do so. this is the thing that i have found on here a lot of posts assume you have some knowledge of hacking or reg editing etc. I have none what so ever.
currently i have tomtom 5 on the xda2i with a wired gps. i have been fine with this and a jabra BT205 for car use.
Press the button on the BT205 and i get the tomtom commands in the ear. I can answer calls and use it fine.
The thing it lacks is the voice dial.
I can also get music on the BT205 from WMP10 although very poor quality and listen tomtom5 at the same time.
I got the Mini s as an 'upgrade' on contract. I have used the BT205 0n it and its good, i can press the button and it brings up the voice dial which also works. The keyboard is good for txt etc.
I cant get the audio from wmp to play through the BT205
I have not transfered the tomtom 5 accross as this means i will need to buy a bluetooth gps and a new cradle for in car. also i like the larger screen on the xda 2i
Now this is what i want to be able to do for use on the motorbike.
I want to be able to listen to music at good quality
I want to be able to hear tomtom5 at the same time
I want to be able to make a call without having to take my helmet and gloves off so voice dial
I want to be able to receive calls again without taking off helmet and gloves
When i end a call i want the screen to go back to tomtom and the audio back to tt5 and wmp
Now bluetooth seems like a good idea. I have no problem if i can get a headset, stripping it and mounting it in the helmet with new buttons fitted so i can press just inside the helmet (i am an electronics engineer)
I had looked at using a wired system from the 2.5mm port on the units. but on my tests so far.
XDA2i
running wmp10 and tomtom 5 (tomtom 5 open on the display)
audio from both wmp10 and tt5 fine
making a call
press the green call button on the headphones and the phone opens press again and i can do last number redial, the audio switches from wmp10 and tt5 to the phone
press the red call end button the audio switches back to wmp10 and tt5. the screen back to tt5
receiving a call
audio switches from wmp10 and tt5 to phone ringing.
press green button and answer the call fine.
Press red button, call ends, screen goes back to tt5 audio to tt5 and wmp10.
On the mini s
I dont have tt5 on there so i cant do a full test. but running wmp i get the music through the earphones
press the talk button and the mini s does nothing, no voice dial, no phone screen no last number redial.
incoming call the audio switches from wmp to the phone ringing (very loud could do with a seperate level setting for headphones being used)
press the talk button and chat.
press talk button ends call and wmp audio comes back.
SO out of the two units the xda2i does the most i want to be able to do apart from the voice dial.
the advantage of using bluetooth is no wires to the helmet and only having to connect mini s or xda 2i for power. if i use a bluetooth gps.
the advantage of using a wired unit is at the moment i get the closest to what i want without much messing, i could also build a small audio mixer so i can use the same earphones and mic with rider to pillion or bike to bike radios.
If i go down the route of wired
is it possible to get a good voice dial program for the xda2i that will run when the green call button on the headphone connector is pressed.
is it possible to get the mini s to do the same as the XDA2i but using the voice dial when i press the talk button on the earphones.
If i goto bluetooth can i get a set up for either device to do my wish list??
Will the use of bluetooth gps effect a bluetooth headset.
I have looked at a lot of posts on here and lots have different elements of my problems but i just find each post seems to link to another and another and another.
I have looked at lots and lots of A2DP headsets and bluetooth devices but short of going and spening a lot of money i dont know if my ideas will work.
Thanks for takin the time to read i hope you can help.
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I've got a orange m1500 (alpine) with tomtom and use a wired gps/charge cable in my car
on long journeys i like to have cd's playing and sometimes miss the tomtom directions
is there any way to direct the tomtom voice to my bluetooth headset so I don't miss the directions and my wife doesn't sit and complain about jane's voice
I haven't tried it (don't use TomTom), but follow the attached link. This company claims to support sending TomTom prompts directly to a BT headset...
http://www.simplesmartphone.com/BlueCast/
I found that if you activate your headset by pressing the call answer button on the headset itself, the TT audio comes through the headset instead of the device.
I use Tomtom frequently and use a bluetooth headset to handle my phonecalls. However when I use Tomtom, I want to hear the navigation instructions from the phone speaker and not from the headset. When I recieve or make a phonecall: vice versa.
I have come up whit a workaround solution. I use BTtoggle to turn bluetooth on while navigating if I receive a phonecall, takes some time and then anwser the phonecall through the bt headset. And then with alttab back to tomtom, so that I can see the route and calling at the same time. It's not perfect, but it does the job.
I want to have this done automatically by the phone. If I am navigating and a phonecall comes in, then the phone automatically turns on the BT, I answer the phone and tomtom remains on the screen. If i am done with the conversation, bluetooth turns off and i hear the voice from tomtom again through the phone speaker....
Does anybody know how this can be done? I have seen a Palm application which could do the trick...(by the way, it has got the same name as the bt toggle app: BTtoggle)...
I read about that new A2DP functionality for music so I got some interesting idea about turning my TC to a car mp3 player. My TC has 8gb so it's cool to have such amount of music in car without need to change discs or something.
There are new car cd players that support bluetooth, my question is how all this stuff works together ? Has anyone tried ? Is it comfortable at it's current state ? I mean will it connect automatically and will the cd player controls work to browse the music stored on TC or will I need to use the TC to navigate songs(less comfort while driving)... What about sound quality, is A2DP provides good sound ? What should I expect from such a setup ?
I would answer half of the question myself only If I would already have the bluetooth supported cd player, but my one doesn't support it :-( so I am thinking about a replacement and will it be worth or not.
I use my Tytyn2 for this purpose with a pioneer B65 Head unit. The quality is good enough for a car considering the background noise and far superior to using a FM transmitter. You will have to use the TC to control the tracks and the display on the head unit does not show track info.
Doesn't seems to be comfortable solution then... There is no interface that will allow head unit to control it ? :-((... Anyone else tried this ?
I use a Jabra BT320S to hear music in car using the line in of my head unit. Sound is good and obviously i have the TC to control the music. SOme programs have very finger friendly buttons. I'm very happy
This is the solution you are looking for.
Get a headunit with a USB port, such as this Kenwood. http://www.bassjunkies.com/index.php?pid=33470&show=expand_image
Install WM5torage on the PDA, and set it up so that the PDA appears as a mass storage device.
Plug the PDA into the headunit with a USB cable.
The headunit should now see the tracks in the memory card of the PDA.
Hope this helps.
WM5torage is not (currently) compatible with the Touch Cruise.
Hello,
since i'm an owner of an saxo vts, which is equal to say been roubed evey time. i just do not have normal player, i instead add amp. connected to the normal audio pre-installation.
Then a audio cable from the PDA to the input of the amp. this also means stereo no front back sound distribution.
i also thought about the bluetooth but then, i realize that with TomTom, phone call , plus blue streaming, the device was not power enough.
Ah since then no one broke in, why because there's actually nothing there to robe.
My Solution
X-Kent. I have been using bluetooth in my car for nearly a year now and it's definately the way forward. Forget plugging it in via USB!
My HU is a JVC BT-1.
First of all the quality of your A2DP can be configured using the 'Advance config' program (found on this forum). I also use a Sony bluetooth headphone receiver and at first my Orbit 2 sounded a bit...cheap! However by cranking up the sample rate to 48000, bit pool to 58 and the max bit pool to 80, it has increased the quality from a decent FM quality to CD quality. This is just in my experience and audio purists would argue otherwise. Nonetheless this applies to my reciever and my car BT.
Next is that if you use BT in your car you would change the tracks by using the phone NOT the head unit. But I think this is FAR better and safer. I have my phone mounted next to the wheel, and not only can I see what track is playing on my phone, I have big pause and next/back track buttons to press and I can even see the album art. Far better than the crappy text display you get on a head unit (unless you have a v.expensive one!) If you did use USB then it would put the track names on the HU and allow full control, but why when you can use the lovely phone touch functions.
Finally (this is where it comes into it's own). The BT-1 has a small mic that you can locate anywhere and you can make calls in the car without touching anything. The BT-1 allows voice dialling and you can speak to people thru your car. And because it's BT then you can have the phone in your pocket. The Headunit is intelligent enough to automatically pick up the phone when it's in range and link them together. No buttons required. If a call comes in and you're listening to music, the ring comes through the speakers of the car. You can then pick up and it pauses the music. When your conversation's done, the music starts up where you left off!
If you use Sat Nav, even if you're listening to music or having a convo, the voice instructions are also routed through your speakers.
Why use anything else other than bluetooth? Hope that helps
Jon
I have an HTC Touch Diamond running WM6.1 Pro, and TomTom 7.450. I also have a Pioneer CD-BTB200 bluetooth handsfree unit in the car offering A2DP support.
The setup works really well as a hands free phone. When the phone rings, the stereo will switch to the 'phone' source so the music is muted. When the call is finished it will switch back to the previous source and continue playing music.
As it supports A2DP, I can also play music and system sounds, including the TomTom voices thought the car stereo, as long as the stereo is set to 'bt audio' as its source. In which case it works great, but I am limited to the audio that I can play from the phone.
What I would like is to be able to listen to music on the stereo, ie; radio or cd or whatever, then when TomTom issues some directions, for the stereo to play the directions and then return to its previous state. This is obviously possible because thats how it works when the phone rings.
Does anyone know of any software that could do what I am looking for?
Or would anyone fancy attempting a little app that would do something like this? I'm assuming that if the TomTom voices could be played in the same way as an incoming phone call, then when TomTom issues a direction, the stereo would change to 'phone' the direction would sound, the the stereo would revert back to its previous source.
I would pay a few £/$/€ for something like this, and I'm sure a load of other people would too,
Phew. Sorry for the long post.
Anyone? Or am I asking for something that deosnt exist?
The trouble is that the only way to listen to tomtom through bluetooth is through a2dp, which is always on until you turn it off. Calls dont use a2dp, and are automatically switched on when needed which is what your handsfree unit detects.
One workaround would be to play your music on your phone, and then tomtom will just speak over it, but it means all your cds would have to be ripped to your phone, and your radio streamed over the internet.
Try this,(BTAudio)-it sends all audio via the bluetooth-I assume that the
A2DP stream will run over it.
If not try A2DPtoggle (but I think that is A2DP only)
You have to start the chosen BTaudio app first (make sure BT is already paired and on),then run any other programs.
Ashley
Actually the only ones PPC's that are doing what you like to do are Asus P525, Asus P535 and LG KS20 because all three are working on Broadcom BT stack.
Why Microsoft still with their crap BT??? ... Who knows!!!
Hi,
I searched the forum, wiki, etc., but didn't find an answer.
I have an AT&T Fuze with the stock ROM (WM 6.1). I know the Fuze is supposed to support multiple simultaneous bt connections. What I would like to do is connect A2DP to my Pioneer stereo for music playback, and also connect handsfree to my Jawbone 2 headset for phone calls while in the car.
I can successfully connect A2DP to my stereo for music by itself.
I can successfully connect HFP to my Jawbone 2 by itself.
I *have* managed to connect to both at the same time, by staying on an active phone call with my Jawbone, then telling my Fuze to connect to the car stereo. However, no music could be heard (from either Mortplayer or WMP). The phone call stayed up just fine though.
Anyone know if there's a way to get both working at the same time?
(And before you ask, I would just use the hands-free capability of my Pioneer stereo for phone calls too, but I've found my car is too noisy for anyone to hear me with the Pioneer's microphone unless I hold it right in front of my mouth, which defeats the "hands free" goal...)
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Best,
Chris
In your case I do not think that is possible since the concept of being able to juggle 2 devices at the same time requires 1 to relinquish control while the other goes active. It turns off the music so you do not get distracted while talking and reconects the music after the call is over.
It seems to be a software protocol if anything. Yes both can be connected at the same time, but both cannot be "active" as in doing both music playback and voice calls.
I have a bt headset that handles 2 profiles at once and according to the protocol, if a call comes in, it pauses my ipod and then picks up the call and then resets back to normal after the call.. Either you have to mess with the coding itself or someone has to come up with a workaround, but I do not think that is possible.
Thanks for the reply. I had hoped it might be possible for the Fuze to route stereo audio to one BT profile (A2DP), while non-stereo audio (e.g., phone call, system tones, etc.) to the HFP profile, almost as though the profiles acted as addressable "service ports" (ala HTTP, SMTP, etc.).
But, unlike with TCP/IP, I admit to knowing next to nothing about how the BT stack works and how profiles are applied to certain types of data (or, how data is routed to a given BT association based on profile).
Thanks again,
Chris
well the thing is.. the fuze can connect to multiple devices simultaneously, but based on the music and voice call order, it is prohibited from doing both at the same time. so therefore when there is no call, the music plays, but when a call comes it, the music is paused and resumed after the call is done. (obviously the call has higher priority here).
My only suggestion is to leave it as it is since it is done so that you do not get distracted while talking and probably while you're driving.
Multitasking is difficult when you're listening to 2 things, responding to 1, and driving at the same time. The more you multitask the less you are able to devote to your main activity (in your case, driving).
but yeah. if you can find someone who can mess with that and allow for both to be active at the same time, then congrats. Otherwise just think of it as a safety measure.
Except that, when I had both the headset and the stereo connected to the Fuze, the music *didn't* pause. It just didn't output (as though the volume was muted). In fact, in both Mortplayer and WMP, it appeared as though it was playing at ~2X the normal rate (just watching the track playback time counter).
I know what you're talking about re: listen to music, call comes in, music pauses, call ends, music resumes. That's the behavior I get when I use the car stereo for both handsfree and A2DP.
The behavior when connected to two different devices seemed to be different, though, so I hoped that might mean it was in fact possible.
-Chris
yeah I know what you mean, but maybe the fact that it tried to do both tripped it up and so it took the call as a higher priority and focused the data towards the call.
atleast that is what I think.
I have almost the exact same configuration, except I am using a Sony car stereo but have a jawbone. What I have to do every time I get in the car is the following.
1. Let my stereo connect to both hands free and wireless headphone services.
2. Open bluetooth settings
3. Manually connect to my Jawbone.
It works great.
ATT Fuze
Energy Rom 072209
Old jawbone
Sony XPLOD Car Stereo
I'll also add it's pretty neat to be able to push the jawbone to activate MS Voice Commander and choose what music I want to play over my car stereo.
frankrizzo said:
What I have to do every time I get in the car is the following.
1. Let my stereo connect to both hands free and wireless headphone services.
2. Open bluetooth settings
3. Manually connect to my Jawbone.
It works great.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll give that a shot. I'm not sure that my Pioneer stereo will automatically connect both handsfree and A2DP. I know it will do handsfree automatically. We'll see...
-Chris