Hello,
I have some trouble with several .wav ringtones on my xdaII - they just won't play, instead the windows-sound is used. These .wav-files are about 300k in size.
Is there any limit in the size of ringtones or do I make some kind of mistake? Ringtones with a smaller size are played just fine.
Kind regards
Sascha
AFAIK there isn't a limit to ringtone length, however the wav file must be in PCM format, not compressed. You can use the 'recorder' application in windows to easily change between formats until you find one that works.
the only limit really is the lenght of the rings of the phone before it goes to voicemail, you can have a 7 min ringtones, but anything after the fourth tone, would be a waste, since its never going to be heard
Hi all
I have read in another thread that you can use MP4 files as ringtones.
I have a couple of very nifty mp3 extractions from the turkish (kiss) song. When I convert these files using "Easy CD-DA extractor" program to mp4 I am unable to play these files for ringtones.
But when I convert these pesky 65k files into wav, they end up being 2mb!!! Anyone know of a good conversion program?
These files are attached. I think this would be a pretty funky tune (although some others might consider it ...sad) haha
*****WHOOPS.. looks like the firewall at work isnt allowing these files to be uploaded
Using windows sound recorder (sndrec32.exe) you can convert the WAV file:
File->Properties->Convert Now
Change the Format to PCM
Attributes: 11.025 kHz, 8Bit, Mono is about as basic as you would want to go (poor quality, only use for small clips).
This should reduce the size down to about 100Kb or so. You can change the attributes for a better quality but keep the format as PCM. Also note that better attributes mean more memory.
cdex
is pretty good i'm not sure about the xda playing mp4 but it does play wma
also you can make it mono insted of stereo and reduce the samplerate to 11Khz this will also dec the size of your tone
and the loss of quality dont really mean all that much when it's a ring tone anyway since the speaker itself is hardly THX surround quality to begin with and of cause not stereo
thanks to everyone who responded.
Easier yet - if you can get them to wav format, then do so at high quality.
Then simply use Windows Media Encoder (free from Microsoft if not alreay on your PC), to save them as 96K .wma files.
These can be used straight away on the phone, and take up only around 400-500K for a full 40 second tone/song, in high quality 96K format!
high quality dont matter when played by the tiny mono speaker of the xda
you can use wma better and smaller than wav..
read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6425&start=0
Rudegar, I agree with what you are saying, but only to a degree.
Because, like anything in life, whatever you put into something bad, will only but be worse when it comes out.
So using a poor quality tone, to be played through a speaker that is already poor, is just asking for trouble.
Why I suggest using a decent quality tone, is not to have a mozart like outcome. But on the contrary, simply to ensure that the poor speaker doesn't make too much of a dogs dinner of it any more than is necessary.
But I know what you are saying.
Is it possible on the XDA 2 to set an alarm that will play an MP3 audio stored on SD Card?
May be there is some kind of software that can be installed to do this? Preferably freeware :!: :?: :roll: :?
Thanks in advance.
i would think it pretty easy if you changed it to wma and set it up in sounds and notifications or what ever that entry in systems is called
Thanks for suggestion. However, the problem with converting MP3 to wav (using dbPowerAMP) causes the MP3 to grow to a huge size. 1.9MB converts to 30MB!
I imagine the same would happen if I were to convert to wma using an appropriate converter.
Any other suggestions?
cdex is a pretty good and free encoder for the pc platform
it can make wav mp3 and make wav wma and make mp3 vma and ....
when it's a not music you'll be listening to on your headset
you can limit the kb/sec to 64
wma at 64kb/sec dont take up more space then a mp3 at 64kb/sec
and sounds better
Ustad said:
Thanks for suggestion. However, the problem with converting MP3 to wav (using dbPowerAMP) causes the MP3 to grow to a huge size. 1.9MB converts to 30MB!
I imagine the same would happen if I were to convert to wma using an appropriate converter.
Any other suggestions?
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No mate.
Other way round.
Becuase mp3 and wma are compressed audio formats (small size) whereas wav is generally not (though you can use really silly low settings, but it would sound terrible).
So going from mp3 to wav will of course make a huge file.
BUT, going from mp3 to wma will produce a SMALLER file size even than your mp3, as it's a better format (i.e. smaller file size, at same or better quality)
I use 40 second wma tones for my XDA2. But for my girlfriend's Nokia, I have to use mp3.
My files at 96K quality, are around 500K file size. Her mp3 at same quality is around 585K for the same file.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for your advice - re MP3 to wma. I understand what you're saying. I downloaded dbPoweramp which has option to convert to from MP3 to wma but whenever I try to do it, it comes up with an message saying that I require appropriate Codec. Well that doesn't help me much. What the heck is a Codec, where do I get one from and how do I set it up?
I'm sure one of you guys will know! Thanks in advance.
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Ustad said:
Thanks for your advice - re MP3 to wma. I understand what you're saying. I downloaded dbPoweramp which has option to convert to from MP3 to wma but whenever I try to do it, it comes up with an message saying that I require appropriate Codec. Well that doesn't help me much. What the heck is a Codec, where do I get one from and how do I set it up?
I'm sure one of you guys will know! Thanks in advance.
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The same site you downloaded dbamp from...
Codecs are 'plugins' that handle conversation of all the different file types.
That way, you only need install the codec, for the type of conversion you want to do.
Here's the link for the codecs download page:
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm
The direct link for the .wma codec however, is:
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central-wma.htm
Thanks for that information. You've been a great help. You are right too. Well, mostly right. I downloaded the codec from the link you gave. I then converted MP3 to wma using the "Windows Media Audio V2" option from the Compressed option list. By default, this option gives the "Attirbutes" of 8kbps, 8kHz mono. I tried a few different attributes. Anything higher than 12kbps, 8kHz Stereo seems to convert the MP3 file to very large sizes like 26MB from a 1.9 MB MP3. Also I noticed that when done, it gives the file the extension of .wav rather than .wma. The sensibly sized file converted to around 296Kb. However, sound quality was not as good. Not too concerned about that since just want to use for alarm.
Getting there slowly.
Problem 1 - I copied the 296Kb wav file into the Windows folder of Pocket PC. Went to set alarm. The alarm list displays the converted file in the list of tunes to choose from, but when I try to choose the converted file, it automatically switches to an option named "Default". can't understand why.
Problem 2 - One converted file (mp3 to wav rather than to wma) was selectable as a tune for alarm. However, when the alram goes off, it only lasts for about 10 seconds. How did you manage to set yours to 40 seconds?
Any further advice? Am I doing something wrong?
Forget it. Use freeware Wolf Clock instead.
Ustad...
If it says .wav, it IS a .wav
That's why the file is so large.
Not sure what has happened, but you HAVEN'T created a .wma file from it.
To be fair though, I use a different tool to convert, that requires registration, so maybe you should try the other converter suggested above.
use super alert to set mp3s as alarms. works like a charm. www.pocketgear.com.
Thanks for you help guys. I've just downloaded test trial version of super alert and is look quite good so far.
Will update after I get a chance to play aroud with.
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jonlien & the rest of you - THANK YOU very much indeed. “Super Alert” seems to be working fine. Not a very user friendly interface, but the darn thing works. It plays mp3 audios at the clock alarm time. This is great news. I’ve been dying to find a functionality such as this for ages. Can’t understand why Pocket PC doesn’t allow mp3s to be playable direcly via clock alarm settings anyway.
If anyone else decides to use “Super Alert” – please bear in mind that the program doesn’t allow u to select an mp3 directly. Instead it allows u to choose a Playlist which u can define via Windows Media Player. So the thing to do is to define a song you want to use as a Playlist item and select that playlist item in “Super Alert”.
Little tip – to avoid any interference (“Clock Alarm” sound, message display, repetition etc) from the actual XDA’s “Clock Alarm”, remove all the ticks from the options in the “Clock Alarm” for the time you have set the alarm to go off. This was, only the mp3 will play at the designated time and not the XDA’s “Clock Alarm”. This may be obvious to some of you techy guys but I had to mess about to get it to work smoothly.
I’ve only had time to figure out what I’ve said above and only found this use for “Super Alert”. If anyone has found useful/clever ideas or tips, would love to hear.
Once again, thanks to you all. :wink:
Wolf Clock – Freeware – I did a quick search for this via Google. Didn’t find anything for PDA called Wold Clock. Could anyone send me a link for this please. Any comments about Wolf Clock. Is it any good? :?:
google.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=wolfclock&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Wasn't so hard
Actually it's too feature full for me but it's a freeware and it works...
pTravelAlarm also looks nice. I've got sthg like this:
PTravelAlarm.v1.4
Jarekt - Many thanks. WolfClock seems like a much better idea. I couldn't find it because I was looking for "wolf clock" instead of "wolfclock".
Some great advice received from people. Thanks to all.
WOLFCLOCK - Problems!!!
It appears that most of the time the alarm mutes itself and ends up not going off, although the alarm function appears activated on the display - U can see the Alarm off and Snooze buttons at the time the alarm is set, but there is just no sound!!!!
It also switches the fone sound off so when a call comes in, it doesnt ring. And i need to turn off wolfclock at the running programs place so that the sound will come bk. It doesnt simply adjust the volume of the PDA, but somehow, mutes the entire fone.
Can anyone advise please :?: :?: :?:
PS - Super Alert seems to be working fine, but interface is crap!!
You can try mortplayer, which is also freeware + plays Mp3s/Ogg + has an alarm built-in. It's like killing a few birds at once.
http://www.sto-helit.de/freeware/pocketpc/mortplayer-en.pl
Ok guys I have looked but can't find. I have used CDx to take 30secs of"Kylie's can't get you out of my head" and have saved it as a .wav file. This has then been added to the phone in the normal manner cool. My question is an issue of size the .wav file is 5.90Mb where as the mp3 was only 549Kb.
Do I have to live with this size issue or am I doing something wrong??
Thanks
Paul
Why don't you rip it as a WMA file and the file size will be approx the same as an mp3, and your phone will play it as a ringtone.
If you want it as a text alert it needs to be a WAV file format, and placed in the Windows folder on your phone.
all
is there a way to;
A) change the actual volume of the alert (I know about turning vol up/down) but what I want here is a louder alert when I recieve a message.
B) can I download new wav files to add to the default ones with myxda2i?
B1) if the above is answered yes, can you advise how I install them please?
Thanks
Pete
I would like to add to this.
I have downloaded .wav files and copied them into the windows directory, but when I go to listen to them in the sounds and notifications section they don't play, this has happened to all .wav files apart from one so far.
Look for the Nokia sms sound file uploaded somewhere in this forum. it works on my imate pocket pc and is loud.
victor
I've also noticed that many wav files are some how encoded in mp3. So they have a file ext of .wav but ppc will only play pure wav files. If you switch the file ext on the wav's that do not play to .mp3 they will sudenly play in windows media player. this will tel you that it is not pure wav encoding.
if you choose properies of the wav file on the pc
it should ms ad pcm as format then it's a pure bred
puls modulated media