Hi all
I have read in another thread that you can use MP4 files as ringtones.
I have a couple of very nifty mp3 extractions from the turkish (kiss) song. When I convert these files using "Easy CD-DA extractor" program to mp4 I am unable to play these files for ringtones.
But when I convert these pesky 65k files into wav, they end up being 2mb!!! Anyone know of a good conversion program?
These files are attached. I think this would be a pretty funky tune (although some others might consider it ...sad) haha
*****WHOOPS.. looks like the firewall at work isnt allowing these files to be uploaded
Using windows sound recorder (sndrec32.exe) you can convert the WAV file:
File->Properties->Convert Now
Change the Format to PCM
Attributes: 11.025 kHz, 8Bit, Mono is about as basic as you would want to go (poor quality, only use for small clips).
This should reduce the size down to about 100Kb or so. You can change the attributes for a better quality but keep the format as PCM. Also note that better attributes mean more memory.
cdex
is pretty good i'm not sure about the xda playing mp4 but it does play wma
also you can make it mono insted of stereo and reduce the samplerate to 11Khz this will also dec the size of your tone
and the loss of quality dont really mean all that much when it's a ring tone anyway since the speaker itself is hardly THX surround quality to begin with and of cause not stereo
thanks to everyone who responded.
Easier yet - if you can get them to wav format, then do so at high quality.
Then simply use Windows Media Encoder (free from Microsoft if not alreay on your PC), to save them as 96K .wma files.
These can be used straight away on the phone, and take up only around 400-500K for a full 40 second tone/song, in high quality 96K format!
high quality dont matter when played by the tiny mono speaker of the xda
you can use wma better and smaller than wav..
read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6425&start=0
Rudegar, I agree with what you are saying, but only to a degree.
Because, like anything in life, whatever you put into something bad, will only but be worse when it comes out.
So using a poor quality tone, to be played through a speaker that is already poor, is just asking for trouble.
Why I suggest using a decent quality tone, is not to have a mozart like outcome. But on the contrary, simply to ensure that the poor speaker doesn't make too much of a dogs dinner of it any more than is necessary.
But I know what you are saying.
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Is it possible on the XDA 2 to set an alarm that will play an MP3 audio stored on SD Card?
May be there is some kind of software that can be installed to do this? Preferably freeware :!: :?: :roll: :?
Thanks in advance.
i would think it pretty easy if you changed it to wma and set it up in sounds and notifications or what ever that entry in systems is called
Thanks for suggestion. However, the problem with converting MP3 to wav (using dbPowerAMP) causes the MP3 to grow to a huge size. 1.9MB converts to 30MB!
I imagine the same would happen if I were to convert to wma using an appropriate converter.
Any other suggestions?
cdex is a pretty good and free encoder for the pc platform
it can make wav mp3 and make wav wma and make mp3 vma and ....
when it's a not music you'll be listening to on your headset
you can limit the kb/sec to 64
wma at 64kb/sec dont take up more space then a mp3 at 64kb/sec
and sounds better
Ustad said:
Thanks for suggestion. However, the problem with converting MP3 to wav (using dbPowerAMP) causes the MP3 to grow to a huge size. 1.9MB converts to 30MB!
I imagine the same would happen if I were to convert to wma using an appropriate converter.
Any other suggestions?
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No mate.
Other way round.
Becuase mp3 and wma are compressed audio formats (small size) whereas wav is generally not (though you can use really silly low settings, but it would sound terrible).
So going from mp3 to wav will of course make a huge file.
BUT, going from mp3 to wma will produce a SMALLER file size even than your mp3, as it's a better format (i.e. smaller file size, at same or better quality)
I use 40 second wma tones for my XDA2. But for my girlfriend's Nokia, I have to use mp3.
My files at 96K quality, are around 500K file size. Her mp3 at same quality is around 585K for the same file.
Hope that helps.
Thanks for your advice - re MP3 to wma. I understand what you're saying. I downloaded dbPoweramp which has option to convert to from MP3 to wma but whenever I try to do it, it comes up with an message saying that I require appropriate Codec. Well that doesn't help me much. What the heck is a Codec, where do I get one from and how do I set it up?
I'm sure one of you guys will know! Thanks in advance.
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Ustad said:
Thanks for your advice - re MP3 to wma. I understand what you're saying. I downloaded dbPoweramp which has option to convert to from MP3 to wma but whenever I try to do it, it comes up with an message saying that I require appropriate Codec. Well that doesn't help me much. What the heck is a Codec, where do I get one from and how do I set it up?
I'm sure one of you guys will know! Thanks in advance.
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The same site you downloaded dbamp from...
Codecs are 'plugins' that handle conversation of all the different file types.
That way, you only need install the codec, for the type of conversion you want to do.
Here's the link for the codecs download page:
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central.htm
The direct link for the .wma codec however, is:
http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codec-central-wma.htm
Thanks for that information. You've been a great help. You are right too. Well, mostly right. I downloaded the codec from the link you gave. I then converted MP3 to wma using the "Windows Media Audio V2" option from the Compressed option list. By default, this option gives the "Attirbutes" of 8kbps, 8kHz mono. I tried a few different attributes. Anything higher than 12kbps, 8kHz Stereo seems to convert the MP3 file to very large sizes like 26MB from a 1.9 MB MP3. Also I noticed that when done, it gives the file the extension of .wav rather than .wma. The sensibly sized file converted to around 296Kb. However, sound quality was not as good. Not too concerned about that since just want to use for alarm.
Getting there slowly.
Problem 1 - I copied the 296Kb wav file into the Windows folder of Pocket PC. Went to set alarm. The alarm list displays the converted file in the list of tunes to choose from, but when I try to choose the converted file, it automatically switches to an option named "Default". can't understand why.
Problem 2 - One converted file (mp3 to wav rather than to wma) was selectable as a tune for alarm. However, when the alram goes off, it only lasts for about 10 seconds. How did you manage to set yours to 40 seconds?
Any further advice? Am I doing something wrong?
Forget it. Use freeware Wolf Clock instead.
Ustad...
If it says .wav, it IS a .wav
That's why the file is so large.
Not sure what has happened, but you HAVEN'T created a .wma file from it.
To be fair though, I use a different tool to convert, that requires registration, so maybe you should try the other converter suggested above.
use super alert to set mp3s as alarms. works like a charm. www.pocketgear.com.
Thanks for you help guys. I've just downloaded test trial version of super alert and is look quite good so far.
Will update after I get a chance to play aroud with.
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jonlien & the rest of you - THANK YOU very much indeed. “Super Alert” seems to be working fine. Not a very user friendly interface, but the darn thing works. It plays mp3 audios at the clock alarm time. This is great news. I’ve been dying to find a functionality such as this for ages. Can’t understand why Pocket PC doesn’t allow mp3s to be playable direcly via clock alarm settings anyway.
If anyone else decides to use “Super Alert” – please bear in mind that the program doesn’t allow u to select an mp3 directly. Instead it allows u to choose a Playlist which u can define via Windows Media Player. So the thing to do is to define a song you want to use as a Playlist item and select that playlist item in “Super Alert”.
Little tip – to avoid any interference (“Clock Alarm” sound, message display, repetition etc) from the actual XDA’s “Clock Alarm”, remove all the ticks from the options in the “Clock Alarm” for the time you have set the alarm to go off. This was, only the mp3 will play at the designated time and not the XDA’s “Clock Alarm”. This may be obvious to some of you techy guys but I had to mess about to get it to work smoothly.
I’ve only had time to figure out what I’ve said above and only found this use for “Super Alert”. If anyone has found useful/clever ideas or tips, would love to hear.
Once again, thanks to you all. :wink:
Wolf Clock – Freeware – I did a quick search for this via Google. Didn’t find anything for PDA called Wold Clock. Could anyone send me a link for this please. Any comments about Wolf Clock. Is it any good? :?:
google.com
http://www.google.com/search?q=wolfclock&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
Wasn't so hard
Actually it's too feature full for me but it's a freeware and it works...
pTravelAlarm also looks nice. I've got sthg like this:
PTravelAlarm.v1.4
Jarekt - Many thanks. WolfClock seems like a much better idea. I couldn't find it because I was looking for "wolf clock" instead of "wolfclock".
Some great advice received from people. Thanks to all.
WOLFCLOCK - Problems!!!
It appears that most of the time the alarm mutes itself and ends up not going off, although the alarm function appears activated on the display - U can see the Alarm off and Snooze buttons at the time the alarm is set, but there is just no sound!!!!
It also switches the fone sound off so when a call comes in, it doesnt ring. And i need to turn off wolfclock at the running programs place so that the sound will come bk. It doesnt simply adjust the volume of the PDA, but somehow, mutes the entire fone.
Can anyone advise please :?: :?: :?:
PS - Super Alert seems to be working fine, but interface is crap!!
You can try mortplayer, which is also freeware + plays Mp3s/Ogg + has an alarm built-in. It's like killing a few birds at once.
http://www.sto-helit.de/freeware/pocketpc/mortplayer-en.pl
Hey guys!!
Just back my O2 Atom Exec and updated it to WM6. I have an extensive collection of loseless audio and i was curious as to which media player supports it. They are in a couple of format, with most of them being in .wv and .ape and the rest in .flac.
I have installed Coreplayer and Pocket Player 3.2 and tried .wv and .flac files.
Coreplayer plays .flac fine but the library kind of sucks and it ain't easy to browse through your collection of music. However, it wont detect the .wv file.
Pocket Player on the other hand simply wont work with either despite claiming on the website that it does. I have tried opening the .flac audio manually but the name of the song (time after time) becomes illegible (like with my chinese song) and when i try to play it, it doesnt work. It says the filetype is .mp3 but that is not true, it is actually .flac....what the?? Also tried to manually open .wv but doesn't work either
So i am confused as to which program actually does work with all the lossless format? Could someone enlgihten.
Btw i did find this link http://www.losslessaudioblog.com/2006/12/16/mobile-lossless-players/
that had all the supported player that claims to support loseless format.
Also, could someone explain why i cant read chinese/japanese filenames? Any fixs so i can see it properly on pocketplayer/coreplayer?
Common guys, as if no one prefers loseless over mp3..
Sorry mate, I used to play flac using TCPMP( free version of coreplayer) was impressed with the sound but not the size of the files. sticking to AACplus now, good luck
haha are you joking get a bigger memory card or one of those special mp3 player
the quality is just so much better
davidw89 said:
haha are you joking get a bigger memory card or one of those special mp3 player
the quality is just so much better
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Music file size ratio is generally a personal preference and you dont just go 'haha' on others preferences. If bigger memory card is not your problem, I'd guess you can always play the high quality lossless WAV on your WMPlayer
Anyway, not much help from me here, read on if you wish.
Anyway, as for lossless or not audio file format, I really wonder how much difference does it make. I personally can't really tell the difference as I'm using relatively low quality earphones and stuff, and consider I listen it when I'm on the move, where you get street noises and such (despite the noise isolation property of the earphones). So, it would be interesting if you were to do a blind test yourself on a relatively real environment. That, is to get a list of songs, say 10-20 songs, all both in the flac, and mp3 formats. Get a friend of you to play you these songs at random (using Coreplayer, which support both format), then you make a guess on which format the song is playing. Get a good number of samples and see if you score above 75%. If you score around 40-60%, chances are, you are thinking (mentally biased) that the sound is actually better than it is (e.g. due to the distortion of the A2D converter, crack in the shielding screen on your headphone, street noises, etc.). If you were to score 25% or lower, that's interestingly MP3 is better (much unlikely).
If you really do this, let me know the results Much eager to know it.
Problem for me is, I am the type who like to have just one device to rule "do" them all, that's why my lowly wizard does it all, my video player, music player, pda and telephone. I only got 2Gb but I got heaps of songs on it plus some movies.
AAc plus is good mate better than MP3 IMHO, I heard flac but the size is just not worth it.. and I don't clean my ears that often ;-) so why bother..
OK, so I've accepted that really to get the best performance out of my shiny new Transformer, I really need to re-encode my library into baseline compatible H264. I've played about with a number of handbrake profiles, but the major issue I am having is that input sources are in multiple bitrates and frame sizes. Handbrake will enforce its own quality settings and this will either mean the output file is far larger than the original or quality will be lost unnecessarily.
Does anyone know of a program that will quickly re-encode files at the original frame size and bitrate, but using a baseline profile?
If not, the only sensible solution would be to stick every file into mediainfo and force the bitrate to something similar. I don't want to have to do this for my entire collection. This takes time. I need to be able to batch convert. Quite annoyed about this to be honest.
MPEG Streamclip?
If not I'd suggest looking for an acceptable ffmpeg script or play around with that. winFF might also be of use.
More info- http://www.klopfenstein.net/lorenz.aspx/using-ffmpeg-to-encode-videos-for-the-ipod
No. It will just apply a predefined bitrate or constant quality over the top of whatever file comes in. High bitrate files will be chopped down and lower ones will become unnecessarily large with no extra detail.
I need a system that matches the input detail but applies baseline profile. I want to select a whole folder of files and set it off to transcode. I may have SD and HD files in there. There's no one size fits all. It needs to detect the input quality.
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No. It will just apply a predefined bitrate or constant quality over the top of whatever file comes in. High bitrate files will be chopped down and lower ones will become unnecessarily large with no extra detail.
I need a system that matches the input detail but applies baseline profile. I want to select a whole folder of files and set it off to transcode. I may have SD and HD files in there. There's no one size fits all. It needs to detect the input quality.
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The handbrake profile posted here before keeps the same resolution of the source file, the quality gets equalized though.
I think Super will allow you to drag and drop multiple files into a list to convert all to a preset.
Just bumped the thread with the Handbrake setting that work on the tf
LEEDROID GB3.0.1DESIRE HD using XDA PREMIUM
Thanks for the reply, but I'm not looking for a handbrake profile that works with the TF. The issue is that bitrate is becoming standardised.
For example, if I have a low bitrate file and pass it through the handbrake profile, it will re-encode it at a much higher bitrate and create a huge file with no extra detail in the picture quality. Equally if run a lower bitrate profile on my larger file, it will lose me a lot of the quality I originally had.
What I need to do is batch process a folder full of different files and keep them at their original bitrates whilst applying baseline profile. I need to do this unattended so I don't have to mediainfo each file individually as this would take hours.
Ok, I know this isn't an audiophile forum per se, but I think we'd all agree that the Infuse coupled with Voodoo Control is a high-end portable music player.
I've recently been re-ripping all of my CDs to FLAC using MediaMonkey Gold. I thought I found the perfect audiophile quality format, albeit heavy on space. I uploaded them to Google Music and downloaded the same songs just to compare. What I've found is my music sounds flat, tinny, and dead whereas Google Music sounded lively and clear while the bass trembled cleanly with no distortion through my Shure E4Cs. The E4C's strong suit is clarity but kind of lacks in the lower frequencies. To hear bass thump and roll while still being able to hear Eminem pronounce every syllable as well as being able to discern every hi hat and snare all at the same time... its quite short of amazing!
So to save myself from having to re-buy every CD that I own through Google Music, what are some of the programs and methods you use to rip an audio CD? Also, am I wrong to believe that every CD drive should be able to produce the same quality file? If not, then I guess I'm just out of luck.
www.exactaudiocopy.de/
http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_and_Flac
big ups on being an Eminem Fan also
After talking to numerous people about how to improve the sound quality on their particular device, it seems this is an appropriate venue.
Maybe this can save some time for current and new developers. I wonder how many new developers attempt to "fix" an audio problem without knowing that a fix is either not necessary or futile. In particular, with Beats Audio being the new fad. This post is for everyone... newbies, moderate and advanced users/developers.
First, file format is the number one factor in sound quality. MP3s basically suck... and Apple's file format is not much better. So much audio information is lost due to compression that no matter how good the amp or headphones one uses, they do nothing to improve the inherent quality.
2. Always use .FLAC or .WAV for lossless and best sound possible.
3. Beats Audio is not much more than a gimmick. To hear the intention of the artist, one should listen to the music 'flat ' with no equalization at all. Otherwise, if you really like to enhance the bass, then just use the basic bass tone control on your favorite audio player.
4. I recommend the Sennhieser Headphones with the best frequency response you can afford. This is just a recommendation, so use what ever company you favor. Just look for frequency response to ensure you are hearing all the music is outputting. If you love bass, then the low end of frequency should be around 25 or 30 Hz. High end should not be below 15kHz. Optimally, your cans should reproduce 20Hz to 20kHz.
5. I use Power Amp app on my X2 because it plays all audio files... I don't know all the apps available that play WAV and FLAC, but ensure it does.
6. The headphone jack is the best quality save the HDMI port... unless someone finds a way to export audio from the USB port. This can be a legitimate goal for developers!
Bluetooth or any over-the-air method degrades the audio to at least some degree (Bluetooth is probably the worse).
7. For super audio files, get your music at www.hdtracks.com. This is the only place I've found that sells super audio files online.
Otherwise, rip directly from CD or DVD to WAV or FLAC. NEVER move from an MP3 (or other compressed format) to WAV or FLAC. Just remember, quality in = quality out.
I hope this helps those who care about music quality and inspires developers to improve upon the technology available. Thank you for your time!
Droid X2 CM7
Thanks for sharing. useful information!
These are some interesting ideas for the audiophiles, but many people can't notice a difference between a FLAC or an 320k MP3 file. Still i think all devices should come with FLAC codecs and other types that are becoming popular.
Using the USB to export audio it can eat a lot of battery imo. Supposing that you will connect a DAC to the device... But i agree with you on the Sennhieser headphones, if you want good sound go for it