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Bluetooth Car Kits and Headsets

Hi All
I have a XDA11 i also have one of the original Nokia Cark 112 bluetooth car kits, but i cant use it with my XDA 11, i can search for it, it comes up as "carkit" i enter the nokia passkey and all seems fine, but it dose not work, ( it wont connect),
As we are a phone shop i then tried the controll box from whats labbled as a "nokia Cark 112 SE" i did the same set up this time the XDA 11 found "cark 112" and i paired using its paring code.
But still the same it dose not connect, When you first enter the paring code the blustooth kit status light flashes 3 or 4 times as if its trying to connect but never dose.
I knoe Nokia hase a so called new Bluetooth car kit "CW1" or something like that, its a few £s cheaper than the Cark 112, the spec is the same.
has anyone got any bluetooth car kits or headsets to work with tere XDA 11, if so please let me know what models they were

Carkits
applecom:
WM2003 does not have the handsfree profile for bluetooth (yet), so carkits won't work.
Headsets work fine.

oh is it not the same as "headset" because when connecting ericsson bluetooth or nokia 6310 phones you connect under "headset"
the car kit may not work, but at least i have been able to do this post from my xda over wireless lan with my sandisk SD WIFI Card.
i will try a nokia headset monday, but anyway thank you for the info on bluetoot profiles
thanks john....

I have tested XDA II working well with Parrot CK-3000

XDAII and bluetooth gps.

Hi all,
I have just bought a tomtom bluetooth gps system, I can bond to the gps receiver ok, but it just wn't connect. There is deffinately a connection during the bonding process but that is it, it never connects again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Steve

If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously

Puff The Magic Wagon! said:
If its anything like the EMTAC then it needs to be considered as a serial port...
Have you tried changing the connection settings in the GPS icon? Default prob to Com1, so try changing.
I can't remember the options 'cos I haven't got it installed myself until later today - but using an EMTAC obviously
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I think the problem is that the xdaII doesn't support a bluetooth serial port profile. I have tried virtually everything and had no luck.
Please keep me posted on how you get on, I really hope we can get this sorted or I will have a gps reciever paper weight.
Steve

Hmm
Due to the nature of yesterday, it wasn't until midnight (GMT) that I could get to have a play with my XDA II & EMTAC BTGPS (& I wasn't sober )
Installed TTN2 and tried to connect - not a sauasage
There "seems" to be something using COM6 and as such TTN2 can't use that as the path to the EMTAC - check box in the GPS options won't check. Turn off BT & you can check the box, but it won't connect as something else obviously can't use it either :? Dunno - I'm not a programmer but I'm going to have to check this out.
I'll speak to a contact @ EMTAC & see if they have been sucessful in bonding to an XDA II (HTC2?) & if so how. Otherwise I'll keep on playing with it & see what I can find out.
Anyone else got any tips or ideas what might be the way of resolving this?

Have you tried turning off the "receive incoming beams" under settings/connections, that may or may not free up the first com port.

I know someone with the same problem. O2 have told him that Tom Tom are working on a new version of software to fix this specific issue and it will be downloadable from the TT site. They couldn't say when.
xdaguru

Beam off did seem to allow me to connect to COM6 but not for my device Might be worth trying Steve because TT Wireless was one I could connect to.
IIRC from iPaq Bluetooth Manager, you had to bring up the device options once bonded and then select a serial connection. Pocket Loox as well. The BT Manager in the XDA II is very basic. So I do wonder if its a TT soluble solution or does it need an upgrade to the BT Manager?
If its a problem soluble by TT then I'm prehaps more hopeful

Sorry to go off topic but I wonder if this is the same PTMW that I know?
How you doin m8?

Hello Danny
Yes it is I
Can't be that many PTMW!'s about
All's well & I'll catch you on the other side one day

Yeah I guessed there could be only one PTMW
I take it you're lucky enough to have an XDA2 already? I always knew u were a gaget fan like myself. I have a month left on my XDA1 contract
Hopefully Tom Tom will have the problem ironed out by then as I have TTN2 aswell.
Pay us a vist on Scoobycity soon. Alots changed and we're alot bigger now

Any bluetooth GPS working with the XDA2 ??
Is there anyone who got the XDA2 working with a bluetooth GPS ? I am very eager to get one (both the XDA2 and a bluetooth GPS) but I would like to hear from some who got a combination working .
Thanks,
Marco

Its being looked into Marco
It may be that the BT Manager may not have various BT options enabled, so it may need a software update/patch from O2.

Spoke to O2 this morning.
They are "aware that not everything works with BT" and are working on a software update.
No timescale offered

I have an Emtac and was going to buy the XDAii to replace my Loox but without this bluetooth connectivity I will save my money. However interestingly it does say on the XDA website...
...or use TomTom Bluetooth with Xda II and cut down the amount of wires in your car
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I'd say this is enough to get a refund if you want one. Page in question is located here...
http://www.my-xda.com/gps.html

TomTom and Bluetooth
The fault with the TomTom software and Bluetooth lies solely in TomTom's software. TomTom have recognised this and are aggresively working to fix the problem.
The TomTom GPS software doesn't know to read the details of the virtual com port. So give them some time to fix the problem....

Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?

Hi
I too have just upgraded to the XDA II from the Ipaq 3970, and I also have an Emtac BTGPS.
Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
It would be very interesting to find out if any one has a TomTom BTGPS and can serial link it to the XDA II
Dom

TomTom and Bluetooth
mother said:
Where did this info come from? do you have a link? I had heard that it was to do with the Bluetooth GPS itself not the TomTom software? If you're in the know, could you do a little expaining for a half-wit like me?
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The fact you're able to bond with the unit shows that bluetooth is working correctly.
The issue is that the tomtom software can't read com6: (which is where bt is hiding) or do anything with it, because of the way the software works.
This is because the Bluetooth manager on Xda II is from MICROSOFT, whereas on other devices it's manufacturer specific. As far as I know this is the first ever deployment of the MS Bluetooth stack directly.

Speaking to O2 it appears they used to support the TomTom BTGPS but do not any more.
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Then why do they say they support TomTom on their website? Seems like a few people at O2 dont really know what's going on?

I've not known that O2 has ever supported EMTAC BTGPS 'cos the XDA (1) didn't have bluetooth support :?
Surely it is the BT manager that is at fault? Not allowing the a serial connection from the manager to the Emtac?
TomTom is looking to read Com6 (when told to) but the info its getting is not sufficient or mapable.
I've run BTGPS with a TDK B/tooth card and it needs to be told (as do other managers) to make a serial connection to the BT device.
Test for someone (I'll try & do it too)
Find an alternate mapping software that *should* accept a BTGPS device & try to connect...

Which ROM to use to achieve compatibility with mercedes bluetooth SAP

Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

Don't have a Merc....One day maybe. Had similar problems as you with a Parrot bluetooth car kit though.
Found that Dutty 29 Apr, and Laurentius' latest roms work completely with it though. Other roms may work too (don't want to tread on anybody's toes).
Some of the older cooked roms would either not route the audio properly, would only work for one call then stop routing, etc.
The latest rom I have tried is PDAViet'. Very fast in some aspects, Very slow at others. The Parrot car kit has real problems working with this rom.
Basically, try a Dutty (latest), or the latest Laurentius and I reckon everything will be fine.

Thank you very much Blartiartfast for you rapid and competent reply!
So I will try to change the Rom to the one's you mentioned and will report the result
Have a good time m8
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.

carkit
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz

Thanks both of you ghostie and BeeCee
I will try it
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

BeeeCeee said:
hello,
i have a bmw , and with the Laurentius_26 rom (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389915) , my bluetooth connection works as a charm.
grtz
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Agreed! Laurentius_26's latest ROM works very with my ML63 AMG. Sometimes it randomly disconnects, but what Phone/Rom isnt going to?

ghostie said:
i've had problems with both a hermes and kaiser connecting up to the mercs bluetooth.
What i found i had to do was to get both the merc and the kaiser to search and connect to each other at exactly the same time. I found that if you made the merc search for the phone it wouldn't auth, and vice versa. But oddly making both connect at the same time worked.
Hope this helps.
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This approach has worked for me several times as well. I use Dutty's April 29th ROM and have found stability to be fantastic. I haven't dropped a Bluetooth connection yet. Good luck.
T

Many thanks to all of you folks
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

Problems always persist with HTC Kaiser and MB bluetooth SAP
As stated in the replies to my question (Thanks to all of those who answered), I tried the last Dutty ROM and the last Laurentius ROM - but in no way I have been able to establish an adequate bluetooth SAP connection between my Kaiser and the mercedes benz bluetooth sap v2 cradle (I provide the original art. no A204 820 0535 in order to be more precise about the item I use).
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication? I suppose that the MB bluetooth sap device uses A2DP, but nobody could confirm until now...
The Kaiser recognizes the MB bluetooth sap device on a regular basis as "UHI-SN3483" and sometimes as "MB-Phone". The MB device recognizes the Kaiser as "Pocket_PC" with the Laurentius ROM and as "TYTN II" with the Dutty ROM. Note that the "Remote SIM Access" was enabled in both ROM's.
I tried also to modify the registry entry
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Sys\COD from decimal 5898764 (Smartphone) to decimal 5374476. But no connection at all.
I didn't use JETware because I do not want an HFP but a SAP connection.
Another point I could not deal with is that the Dutty ROM features in Settings an item named "Bluetooth SIM Access". What does it is for and how to set it? pointing on it does not result in another effect than display in the header where was located Settings the term "BT Remote SIM Acce"
Sorry I have been that long, but I really need to get into this bluetooth SAP connection with my Kaiser
Thank you all
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser

hello guys... I've read in one of the threads for a diamond-rom-based rom that it includes "SIM Acess Version 3.0.xxx"... perhaps it will work with thsi new version... but until now I've not found any cooked, diamond-based rom, that includes SIM Access...

doc holiday said:
Does anybody have a step by step "cooking receipt" how I could establish the communication?
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With every ROM that I have used before this one - it has been a rather hit and miss endeavor to link my Parrott bluetooth in my car with my phone. I USUALLY have to tell the PArrott that I want to link with a phone and step through things.
With the DEATH V3.5 ROM installed I got in my car and was in a hurry and thought I would sync them later.
After I started the car the phone indicated that the PARROTT wanted to connect and establish a connection - I indicated that it should be allowed - I was then asked for a key code on my phone- I looked at the PARROTT display device and had a 4 digit code there - keyed that into my phone and it paired easily.
Go figure...
Bill

I work for Mercedes and I paired my Kaiser 10s of times. I am guessing you are in the UK because we don't use the sim access cradles. I don't see why our technology would be better than yours. The cradle we sell that works is 6-7-87-5878 But I doubt it will work there.

I was trying to use a Nokia 616 car kit with T mobile sim in the UK, but T mobile does not support Sim acccess profile with their sims. I am about to try an o2 sim which hopefully will.
If the NB uses sim access profile and the provider does not support that use of its sim, then the Nokia will not even allow fallback to bluetooth car profile.
I hope you proble is not being caused by the above but thought you should be aware in case!
Regards
Chapelhill

It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue

Htc touch diamond and Mercedes SAP kit
i have a mercedes sap v2 car kit, i have the same problem being not able to pair with windows mobile based phones, the car can see the phone but phone cannot recieve the password confirm and so connection fails.
i tried many roms, added the SAP settings, and yesterday had the chance to try the new HTC touch DIAMOND on car, but same results.
i think that solving this problem is just a software issue, first in windows profiles, or as addition from Phone manufacturers (as HTC) ,because the car kit is already fixed to car and cannot be modified to use other profile.
but i still have hope that the professionals in this forum can help to solve this problem, before any of Microsoft or HTC. Please share any information to help
Thank you

Mercedes Benz makes five BlueTooth adapters that have five proprietary firmware that each adapts to a different type of phone. For example, a Vorizon CDMA BT adapter will not work with Sprint CDMA phone and vice versa. So in essence, if you have a AT&T service, and use a Motorola Phone, MBZ provides a specific BT adapter, that would be close to impossible to pair with an HTC device.
I would suggest going to an authorized Mercedes Benz parts department at their dealership and request to try all 5 adapters b4 you commit to buying one.
Only In the new 2008 and 2009 C-Class MBZ cars the BT adapter is universal and built in. In earlier models and other models (2008's), the BT adapters would need to be purchased independently; a 2X4 device that installs in the center glove box that works as a link between the media port of the car ( Hands Free) and the phone.
My 2 cents....

try the neon radio rom
i tried it in one of my friends car
if it did not work (change your car to fit your phone )
doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Penske MB said:
It does works for MBZ. I am using it without any issue
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which Penske Mercedes Benz do you work at?

doc holiday said:
Hallo experts,
I am a newbie to this forum and a greenhorn concerning programming. But I bought the HTC Kaiser in order to get it running with my Mercedes Bluetooth SAP V2 Cradle (Article number Mercedes Benz: A204 820 0535). Unfortunately, the cradle does not work with the Kaiser. Do you know any solution (another ROM? for example) that may change the situation?
Thank you all very much for your appreciated help!
doc holiday
HTC Kaiser
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Try Htc shipped WM6.1
If not work.
Read this.
The Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, which is also suitable for Motorola PEBL U6, Nokia 6131, Nokia 6111, Nokia N70, Sony Ericsson K610i, Sony Ericsson W550i and BenQ-Siemens EF81 mobile phones, acts as an extension of the pre-installation for mobile phone with universal interface, a feature which is already present in many of the latest Mercedes-Benz models (optional extra Code 386). The module is simply inserted into this pre-installation in the centre armrest. The Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (HFP) telephone module, in independent-design closed-box format, will be available from Mercedes-Benz sales partners from March 2007, and is priced at EUR 250.00, including VAT (price applies to German market).
High-end telephony: the second generation of the Mercedes-Benz Bluetooth® (SAP) telephone module offers even more possibilities

Samsung Omnia Bluetooth Problem Please Help :(

My Omnia wont link up with my Bluetooth headunit.
My old XDA Orbit wouldnt either but after installing a new rom I had it to function
I have tried the Broadcomm BT stack but I get the usual insufficient memory error.
Does anyone know any stacks that will work on the Omnia? It is frustrating as my Pioneer £250 BT Headunit is useless at the moment
Any help much appreciated

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no ideas?
My XDA Orbit works with Black&Blue v5.0 ROM and using Jetware Mobile software it all works perfectly.
How do I mirror the bluetooth settings from the orbit?

[Q] Bluetooth multiple connections external gps and handsfree

Hi, I own an HTC UNIVERSAL with windows mobile 5.0 original rom and I use to play on it tomtom navigator using an external gps via bluetooth. I would like to know if it is possible to connect also an handsfree so I can answer calling meanwhile driving. Is it possible or it made conflict?
Thanks in advance

I used to have a HTC Wizard and used it with Bluetooth Carkit and GPS Mouse at the same time. It was also running WM5.0, so your Universal should be able to do it also!

Thank you...I will buy an handsfree then.

I bought handsfree and get paired. But when I start external gps it request me to pair and when I pair it disconnect the handsfree. Please can you help with some fix.
It is an HTC Universal win mobile 5.0