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I have an ATT Tilt purchased almost 10/25/2007. I am running Duttythroy latest ROM, the one from after the crash. I have installed the following software:
Duttythroy HTC Voice Recorder
Silent Service BtIO
TCPMP the Core Pocket Media Player
Resco Today Skin Smile
Resco Today Skin Compact
Resco Today Skin Alfa
Resco Today Plug-in
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Resco Explorer
WedIS FlexWallet 2006 rev5
BCR World Card
Telenav for Windows Mobile
Cingular WAP Media Net Setting
TaurusBulba Tilt keyboard fix
EffComm Today Radio Device Toggle
Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum
Geeks Toolbox.com SiriusWM5
Google Maps
Emunutz HTC Home Customizer
Spb Time
Omega One 1-Calc full
David Andr Batti
HTC HomePlug
HTC HTC Home
Xda-developers HTC Homeplug
The EquinoXe Wizard retouched Dialer
MoDaCo CamerAware
JottoSoft Finger Friendly Friends
I have keep track of my battery usage. And it is miserable.
Yesterday 11/01/2007 @7:16am battery is at 100% by 8:50 pm battery is @ 14% the only thing I had on is Bluetooth.
Today 11/02/2007 @ 9:06am battery is @100% by 9:17pm battery is at 5%.
Both days I had to hit reset twice due to screen freeze that every time led to eventual screen pixilation.
Does anyone know of issues with any of the software I have installed or what is causing the extreme battery drain? Any help will be greatly appreciated, as 12 hour standby time is simply unacceptable.
Might not help, but have you tried Kaiser Tweak?
It is a simple app that will turn off your data connections after they idle along with a couple of battery savers. You might just need to condition your battery a little but don't expect the phone to last more than a few days of normal use (I don't even have bluetooth on all of the time.)
Hi
Bluetooth drains the battery quickly as the device needs to remain fully on (even though the screen is off) in order for Bluetooth to work.
When the device is on then any other applications that like to do things will use processor power as well making matters worse.
Regards
Phil
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
belchie said:
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
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tHATS impressive battery results are you using kaiser tweaks and which one are you using
ya please let us know how youre getting that kind of battery life because at by about 5pm my battery is somewhere around 50%
Also don't let the HTC Home Weather Plug-in automatically update the weather. I had that enabled and saw my battery drain very rapidly.
I think alot has to do with how strong the cell signal is in your area. The stronger it is, the less searching, the searching will kill a battery
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I think alot has to do with how strong the cell signal is in your area. The stronger it is, the less searching, the searching will kill a battery
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Agreed. Problem is the radio is so [email protected] that it really struggles on my home network. I might try another Sim from a different carrier and see if it helps.
Whats your battery Life?
Ok, guys What kind of battery life do you get with bluetooth ACTIVE? You really don't expect me to believe that you only get 12 -13 hours of battery life. My wizard gets 2 1/2 days and that device is 1 1/2 years old. Are you telling me bluetooth tech has gotten worst in a year and a half. Please respond. And belchie Please explain how you manage get such inpressive battery life.
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
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Battery life?
I have to keep it plugged in to appreciate the phone. Data usage, TeleNav, are all battery killers.
One last thing
Even if you aren't connected via data connections, do you have the 3G radio on the phone turned off? Simply having that radio on and available drains the battery like you can't believe. The first day that I had that one, my battery drained like crazy. But turning that off and leaving blue tooth running all day my battery drop is considerably less.
Welcome to 3G.
12 hours battery life is pretty much what I shoot for with an active 3G connection. Where the technology stands today, it simply annilihates battery life.
If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.
As new ROMs keep coming out battery life should continue to improve, but you won't see anything comparable to your wizard unless you turn off the 3G or use a Bandswitch app to deactivate it when not in use.
ME too
I got the same rom and the tilt.....same problem
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12 hours battery life is pretty much what I shoot for with an active 3G connection. Where the technology stands today, it simply annilihates battery life.
If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.
As new ROMs keep coming out battery life should continue to improve, but you won't see anything comparable to your wizard unless you turn off the 3G or use a Bandswitch app to deactivate it when not in use.
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I have it turned off 3G with the Comm Manager should I be turning it off some other way. According to the Comm Manager the ONLY thing I have on is bluetooth. I have 3g off, data connection off, MS push off, Beam off, WLAN off. As I said when i turned the bluetooth off I dropped only 2% power but once I turned on the bluetooth within an hour i was down to 83%.
Was the device in sleep mode the entire hour and still drained that much??? If that is the case maybe you have a bad battery, because otherwise you should not see that much power drain.
When I turned 3G off on my 8525 I could easily get 1-1/2 days with bluetooth on. Haven't used much bluetooth since getting the Tilt, however, so maybe there are some power management issues with the bluetooth.
Does turning BT off help your battery drain?
Discarge totally the battery 10 time, and recharge at maximum and more time.
The battery work 3 day, no prob.
Bye
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tHATS impressive battery results are you using kaiser tweaks and which one are you using
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I'm using your Rom: Dutty's Hybrid 10/15/07
Radio: 1.27.12.11
Protocal version: 22.45.88.07H
Plus KaiserTweak (Version 0.4 - October 9, 2007) with all settings as advised.
I'm very impressed with the speed and battery life and am sure there's a big imrpovement on the standard TMobile UK rom replaced.
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If you want to see battery life like your wizard, then simple turn off the 3G bands. Your device will have no problem lasting 1-2 days.
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Not necessarily. EDGE eats up more more battery life for me as it has a very poor signal strength versus the full strength 3G signal I get. I get about two days on 3G (if I can keep it on 3G) and I get maybe 10 hours on Edge...
belchie said:
Just for a reference point, if it's a help, I'm using the same ROM and have had bluetooth, 3G and wifi on all day.
At 9am battery was 100%
At 5pm battery was 78%
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Have to say, that's pretty close to what I'm getting too. 3G on wit push mail, but other than that, I'm quite pleased with the Kaiser's battery life.
Hi there,
I notice now for a while that the TyTN II has incredibly short battery life.
I've got a few questions about that. Are there ROMS out here, with which the battery life is longer?
And are there batteries out there with a higher capacity than 1350mah, but who still fit in the TyTN II without the need of a new back cover?
Thanks for your time
Regards,
Dennis
Although I don't have any answers, you are reading my mind. Hopefully one of the 'gurus' here have some answers!
dmxl said:
Hi there,
I notice now for a while that the TyTN II has incredibly short battery life.
I've got a few questions about that. Are there ROMS out here, with which the battery life is longer?
And are there batteries out there with a higher capacity than 1350mah, but who still fit in the TyTN II without the need of a new back cover?
Thanks for your time
Regards,
Dennis
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SVIK73 said:
Although I don't have any answers, you are reading my mind. Hopefully one of the 'gurus' here have some answers!
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You can read the posts under Kaiser accessories, this will help you find extended life batteries. I know there are a few posts there. As far as the Roms go, the fewer programs you have running the better off you are. I know active sync is a huge memory hog. I am using XDA live 1.3 and is great but it is for AT&T. I wish I could help YOU out more- trust me.
I switch from 3G to Edge when I am not browsing. My battery life greatly increased and I do use direct push.
-McMex
So the XDA Live 1.3 is only for the AT&T Tilt? Not the TyTN II?
Anyway, besides this, I don't use 3G. Even without using the internet on my PDA, the batterylife is soooo darn short!
I have WM6 version 5.2.1921 (Build 18521.0.7.0), with latest Radio.
All the battery options I see here above 1600mAh, make the TyTN II bigger as far as I know...
regards,
DM
You don't use 3G did you shut it off? Can you elaborate a little on short what is short to you one full day?
-McMex
Does edge use more power than normal GPRS?
Thanks!
Hi Martin!
Thanks for the tips. I will check out the area you suggested. I think I need to stop watching my slingbox on my Tytyn II ... I'm sure that would save me a lot of juice . I just can't seem to live without my American TV!
I think I will just buy a spare battery to swap with. I don't want to increase the size (or weight) of this thing any further!
Muah ... Scarlet
Martinjv71 said:
You can read the posts under Kaiser accessories, this will help you find extended life batteries. I know there are a few posts there. As far as the Roms go, the fewer programs you have running the better off you are. I know active sync is a huge memory hog. I am using XDA live 1.3 and is great but it is for AT&T. I wish I could help YOU out more- trust me.
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You don't use 3G did you shut it off? Can you elaborate a little on short what is short to you one full day?
-McMex
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As far as I know I shut it off. Under phone settings, I switched to GSM.
On a full day, hard to say. When I use the device "now and then" to lookup appointments and make a few calls, there's a quarter left at the end of the day.
Whatever I do, I need to recharge it every end of the day. It's a huge difference compared to an older Hermes device I owned.
Regards,
Dennis
Yeah, same experience here as well. Very very disappointing indeed from an otherwise great PPC!
I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
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I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
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Interesting... I'll try setting my phone's "Network type and GSM/UMTS band" both to "Auto". I switched to GSM, because the signal strength seems rather low with 3G for some reason... Besides this, I've been told that 3G consumes more power?
Cheers.
my battery on my tilt goest down to about 88% by the end of a day with me using it marginally...(checking time, text messaging, not too much talking on it though)
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I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
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WOW!!!.... That is hard to believe. Not that I doubt you, just that don't I'm down to 10% by the end of my day with just light use. You wouldn't consider trading phones would you? LOL!!!...
sixblade said:
my battery on my tilt goest down to about 88% by the end of a day with me using it marginally...(checking time, text messaging, not too much talking on it though)
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So it the end of the day you battery is at 88%? Or are you saying it losses 88% by days end? If the former, WOW... at that rate it would last you about 8 days!
Do either of you sync you phone to a PC during the day?
I get about 2 full work days as well with normal usage & about the same number of emails. I also keep bluetooth on. All in all I'd say that Kaiser battery life is better than Hermes.
I can get about a day and some change on one charge. But I don't think it was better than my Hermes. I usually charge my phone before I sleep< but even at 100% my tilt is around 89% when I get up after about 7 hours sleep. My Hermes would still read 100% and yes i do understand Hermes operates in increments of 10. Do you think the poor batter life can be attributed to the lack of ATI Imageon drivers. Since now even the simplest of rendering has to take up valuable cpu cycles, which could have been handled by the dedicated video hardware.
by the end of the day its at 88% sorry for not being clear, I dont sych it very often...just to add music or to toss a new rom on there.
Same for me. I had some issues with cooked ROMs with older radio...used to last about a day max. Now, I'm on CUSTEL's latest ROM with the latest radio. Not sure if it's the ROM or the radio software, but I'm on pretty much 2 full days. I'm right on 3G/Edge margin area...gets about 3-4 bars with EDGE, about 1-2 bars with 3G / H. Goes back and forth. I get about 100+ emails a day via continuously connected Direct Push on top of normal phone call usage.
So far, I'm pretty happy with the battery life. Definitely better than my 8525.
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I stay on 3G all day with Direct Push (about 60 messages / day) and about maybe an hour total of phone calls / 2 days and I am able to stay on for 2 complete work days (i.e, remove phone from charger Monday morning and not have to recharge until Tuesday bedtime).
With Edge only, I only last until the end of the same day.
Signal Strength is key. I get full-bore signal strength on 3G at home and work. I get 1~2 bars of EDGE at the same locations...
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Same for me. I had some issues with cooked ROMs with older radio...used to last about a day max. Now, I'm on CUSTEL's latest ROM with the latest radio. Not sure if it's the ROM or the radio software, but I'm on pretty much 2 full days. I'm right on 3G/Edge margin area...gets about 3-4 bars with EDGE, about 1-2 bars with 3G / H. Goes back and forth. I get about 100+ emails a day via continuously connected Direct Push on top of normal phone call usage.
So far, I'm pretty happy with the battery life. Definitely better than my 8525.
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What the hell am I doing wrong?? I barely get though a whole day without charging. I only use my slingbox a bit and am on Wifi most times. I have my settings to automatic but think I usually connect via GPRS vs 3G when I'm not on wifi. I don't even have my bluetooth on
I am using the standard HTC ROM on my HTC Tytyn II that I downloaded from here and flashed (all by myself thank you). I needed WWE but my phone came with Swedish.
Sorry to hijack your thread, but I need answers!
Hi to all of you !
I hard reseted my device and made this simple test.
Charged the battery to 100%, left the touch cruise on my table without doing nothing for 12 hours, then checked the battery status again ->73%
This does not seems normal to me !
Anyone else has this problem??
Dag
daghood said:
Hi to all of you !
I hard reseted my device and made this simple test.
Charged the battery to 100%, left the touch cruise on my table without doing nothing for 12 hours, then checked the battery status again ->73%
This does not seems normal to me !
Anyone else has this problem??
Dag
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it depends on what rom you are using.
I also heard that by hard reseting or flashing other roms, you are erasing something on the memory and you need to cycle your battery like 4-5 times in order to work properly, yet again i might be wrong.
I am using the official WM6 french rom !
I also instaleld ACBTaskman and try to monitor battery usage but the POWER(mA) value is N/A when the USB cord is unpluged, is this normal?
Should I make the test with the USB cord pluged in ??
Dag
"without doing nothing"
That might be the problem. Perhaps if you left it without doing anything then it won't use up quite the same power.
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"without doing nothing"
That might be the problem. Perhaps if you left it without doing anything then it won't use up quite the same power.
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Bloody foreigners?
Are you sure not falling in bug HTC models with GPS? Excessive battery drain CONFIRMED - FAQ added?
Hello,
Are you sure your phone does not automatically connect to the Internet so as to get those weather reports?
Is the HSDPA turned on? (Settings -> Connections -> HSDPA icon) If you do not need this, then set it to Off, Windows will prompt you to reset in order for this change to come into effect.
Is Wifi turned on? This drains the battery quite quickly
Does the backlight switches off when your phone is not in use? (Settings->System->Backlight icon). If not, make sure it does!
Finally, I use PowerGuard which is free. It shows you a negative number for the amount of mA your device uses (i.e. your device draws current from battery), and when you plug in the charger it shows a positive one, indicating the battery is recharging. Mind you though, it will not measure anything, if your device is in the "off" state.
When running no program, I get a current consumption of around -35mA. So, according to another thread, I have the issue of the GPS bug... Frankly, I have never been able to have a current consumption of 1..3mA as this link suggests:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371734
If anyone else has managed to get that current, please let me know!
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Bloody foreigners?
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I bet as an english speaking person you probably speak 3 languages (english, english and english!)
Are you sure your phone does not automatically connect to the Internet so as to get those weather reports?
NO weather update is disabled !
Is Wifi turned on? This drains the battery quite quickly.
NO wifi is turned off
Does the backlight switches off when your phone is not in use? (Settings->System->Backlight icon). If not, make sure it does!
Yes it does switch off
Finally, I use PowerGuard which is free. It shows you a negative number for the amount of mA your device uses (i.e. your device draws current from battery), and when you plug in the charger it shows a positive one, indicating the battery is recharging. Mind you though, it will not measure anything, if your device is in the "off" state.
I also use powerGuard, so should I set the PDA not to turn itself off so that I get a constant reading of the battery mA ?
What is the "off" state? Is it when I press the power button for 1 second?
I seem to see some power consumption peak every 5minutes for a couple of seconds (-300 to -400 mA), but have no idea where they come from ? Everything is disabled, my TC has just been hard reseted ?
Any other ideas?
Dag
What are you using 3G or GSM?
If you are using 3G and the radio reception is poor ...
TDO
3G is enabled in the phone, but it is mainly connected using EDGE or GSM.
I don't have 3G network at home!
ok, what about the HSDPA?
Is it feasible to disable 3G? I have no idea how 3G works, can it be the case that since it is not feasible to get a signal, your device having 3G turned on consumes most of its battery trying to find a singnal?
Battery can be drained faster if the signal reception is not very good...
If i leave the phone switched on with nothing running, i do not have those peaks you mentioned.I would say 400mA is quite high...
If I want to really check my TC, should I let the screen always on (with the lowest light) or should I tell it to turn the screen off after 2 minutes or so?
It seems that if the screen goes off the measure are not made any more by PowerGuard !
What do you think?
Yes it goes off, so I adjust it so it does not switch off after a couple of mins. I would not bother leaving it on, all night long, I guess, if you leave it on 5-10 mins it should be representative of what happens.
While in this mode (screen on, but dimmed), I rarely have a consumption above 200mA (that is -200mA), the usual one is around -35mA. I get some spikes as well, but certainly not -400mA.
If the screen goes off and leave it like this for say a min, and then switch on the screen again, (by pressing the power button once), I can see a really very low consumption for a few seconds. Although powerGuard does not measure battery drain while screen is off, it seems that power consumption does go down a little bit, when you leave the device without doing anything.
To be honest, I do not know what will happen if i leave mine overnight and unplugged. Maybe I get the same power consumption as yours....
How bright your screen is? Mine is really low, on the second line from the left, for both battery power and external power....
ok I got it! I made some test tonight and found the same results as yours. I also set the screen brigthness to its lowest possible level and get an average of -30 to -35 mA. I have peaks to -200 mA pretty often.
The peaks to -400mA was a misreading of the scale, sorry!
So know we know we have the same device and the same problem, what can we do about it !
Could it be a battery problem? Mine is a HTC model : POLA160, 3.7VDC, 1350mAh made by "Total wireless solutions".
What's yours? what's language is your devie in? Should we try on of the cooked 6.1 rom for the cruise?
Dag
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ok I got it! I made some test tonight and found the same results as yours. I also set the screen brigthness to its lowest possible level and get an average of -30 to -35 mA. I have peaks to -200 mA pretty often.
The peaks to -400mA was a misreading of the scale, sorry!
So know we know we have the same device and the same problem, what can we do about it !
Could it be a battery problem? Mine is a HTC model : POLA160, 3.7VDC, 1350mAh made by "Total wireless solutions".
What's yours? what's language is your devie in? Should we try on of the cooked 6.1 rom for the cruise?
Dag
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Turn off the radio completely.
If the peaks disapear you know that you have a poor receiption.
Than the behavior is normal and you can't do anything. (every phone will show the same)
TDO
hi again,
i think i am fairly ok with the current consumption. Basically, I will listen to a couple of hours of music using core player every day, sometimes more, sometimes less. I may make a couple of phone calls as well... Depending on how long i spent listening to music, starting from 100% around 8am, I end up with 60-80% around 8pm.
60% after listening music for quite long (few hours) plus watching some video while in train,maybe 30 mins of video or so...
80% if i listen to music maybe for 1-2 hours max.
Mind you though, the battery meter will go down from 100 to 90 quite easily, but it will not go down from 60 to 50 so easily. I was trying to drain the battery one day, and while it showed around 60% I let it overnight. I do not remember the exact reading, but the next morning it was quite above 40%...
Essentially I would say this is a device which consumes quite lots of power, I always recharge it when i come back home. I reckon, it would not last beyond 3 days on a single charge, which is something I have accepted.
For long journeys in train or while waiting in airports, I know the battery will not last long, and in such cases I am sure I would like to watch a movie, or use messenger over GPRS or if I am in the airport maybe use WiFi... For these cases, I ordered a separate battery, my guess is, it is as big as the phone though
http://www.gpsforless.co.uk/product_details.php?id=12207
However when I am travelling, I always carry a handbag so I can keep the big battery in it. This is a 5400mA battery, and I have heard other users being happy with it. (HTC Cruise has an 1870mA I think)... There is also a battery for HTC Cruise which is 2200mA and you can put it in the phone actually (with a different back which also ships with the battery). Of course, this may not be an option for you..
Maybe switch it to Airplane mode and see what happens?
I am leaving mine switched on tonight as well, just out of curiosity, so I will let you know tomorrow
I am looking forward to you response!
I hard reseted my device again this morning, took away my 8gb card and installed PowerGuard again
Dag
Hello daghood,
I have to say I did that test and I think I have a quite considerably less power consumption than yours :/
Fully charged yesterday, took it off the USB at around 23:30. As of now, 9:40, I have an indication of 94%
I must admit I do not know what "Turn off the radio completely" means; this was suggested by another member (TDO). Does it imply turning on the airplane mode, where all communication features are disabled? I am not sure this would normally cause a dramatic decrease in power consumption, (I think someone mentioned it goes down from 37 to 30-35), BUT, if the source of the problem is in communication features, it should be helpful in your case.
If you disable all the telecom features and the power consumption is ok, then it means that something is "wrong" with the networking features (GPRS, GSM, EDGE, 3G, whatever, I do not know).
I know I asked this previously, but is that HSDPA disabled? Also, is there a way to disable 3G? I am sorry for asking these again, maybe it is simply a case of bad signal reception, I don't know...
mines idle consumption is 1% per hour with:
screen off
wifi off
bluetooth off
3g off
edge off
phone on
only quickmenu and batterystatus running
1% per hour = 100 hours, so maybe HTC meant 450 hours if the phone is off?
or it can be the stock wm6 version.......
Well i have 2 phones, a mogul (no service)
and my new htc touch pro.
Mogul has been in a drawer for 2 weeks now, and still STILL has battery life.
got me thinking. it has no service, so i put it into airplane mode..
so basically its just sitting there.
so i began to think, why does my HTC TP die in no time.
then i remembered, im running Gmail via Imap using flexmail.
basically this connects to the internet, and has a live connection to my gmail email.
so all day long its tracking my gmail,
i went into flexmail, and turned idle mode off, and set it to check email every 15 minutes.
i just did this right before i typed this, so i will post in the morning how it worked out.
if nothing at all this may inspire some of you to look at things your phone is doing that you didnt realize.
i update in morning.
I have mine set to check 2 accounts, a hotmail account every 4 hours and my pop account every 30 mins. I also have it set to auto disconnect data after 3 minutes idle, radio mode on so it can still receive calls. On average when I go to sleep for 8 hours and get up, I get a drop of 3%-4% battery during that time. Not bad at all. My tilt drops at least 8%-10% with the same setup.
ok, how do you have it set to drop data after idle time.
this may help in my quest.
I have mine disconnect after 1 min idle, check hotmail and regular e-mail once every two hours, and try to keep all extraneous programs from accessing Internet without me knowing. I can get up to about two days' normal usage (as of right now, 2:33pm, my battery is about 35% on its second day without a charge).
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ok, how do you have it set to drop data after idle time.
this may help in my quest.
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pssst how do you guys do this?
It seems everyday there is a new thread about a possible solution to the TP battery issue. I've ran the most basic test possible. Mogul by TP, both hard reset, both with radios off. Removed both from charger at 0700 before work. Got home at about 2100. Mogul was at %90 and TP was at %60.
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pssst how do you guys do this?
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Use Advanced Config. Left softkey brings up more options, to disconnect data after a certain time is one of them
What is a soft key? Sorry, I'm new to all this...
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What is a soft key? Sorry, I'm new to all this...
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Your kidding
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What is a soft key? Sorry, I'm new to all this...
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LOL! I laughed so hard I just had to comment. Just in case you were serious.
Soft Keys are the onscreen buttons usually at the very bottom of the screen. I.e. on the Home screen Calender and Contacts would be soft keys.
Except for the Raphael, on most HTC WinMo devices most softkeys have hardkey equivalents that are usually directly under the softkeys.
Well i now have a battery life of a few days (not phoning a lot or using Wifi alot) Also only a drop of 2-3% during the night.
I installed the RomeOS 1.51 whithout any modifications, but if i install the HTC Task manager my battery drains in 1 day (sometimes in 9 hours) so i'm not using that tool anymore
This isn't exactly relevant to the email conversation, and I suppose I could find one of the other 300 battery threads to post this in, but I made a bit of an accidental discovery too.
I had to make a trip for about 10 days and chose to only take my other phone with me. I left the fuze fully charged and without the sim card in, and with gps, wi-fi, and bluetooth turned off (all radio stuff was off). When I got back, at least 11 days total time gone, the battery was sitting at either 66% or 76% (was a few weeks back, I forget)
Not a huge revelation since there should be virtually no power drain with screen off and no active radio, but it further enforces the theory that the radio is a prime suspect for battery drain...and radio roms in particular are worth testing.
I agree that the drain has to do with the Radio.. I have a sprint touch pro and it will drain in a couple hours..
I left it sitting on the table a couple days ago, It was sitting for 2 days and when I checked it it was only down to 60% I also had bluetooth and wifi turned ON. The phone radio was turned off.
I thought the phone was turned off so i did not mean to test it like this but i thought it is worth mentioning.
wifi on and connected
bluetooth on but nothing connected
Phone radio turned off.
2 days sitting and the battery only down to 60%
This phone usually drains to 40% in 4 hours just sitting on standby in my pocket. Does this not proove it is the sprint radio killing the phone.
If you're running a default ROM and haven't changed the power saving settings, wifi turns off when the device auto-sleeps.. bluetooth remains on but by it's design its power draw is very minimal without an active connection.
The phone radio maintains a constant connection to the cell towers, and it doesn't have a deep sleep mode (it has to remain ready to wake the rest of the phone up when a call/sms/mms comes in) - if for whatever reason it's signal drops below a treshold, and it starts hunting for different towers etc. it'll bump it's transmitter up to full power for a period of time..
As long as you're maintaining an active connection to the cell tower, there's gonna be power drain. On the GSM side of things you can minimize it by locking the phone to GSM until you need 3G, the nature of GSM allows it to use less power both in idle and active transmission modes than WCDMA.
As I have tested and re-tested different ways to conserve battery life I can honestly say there is no miracle cure to make it last longer. If you're burning through lots of data (via 3G, HSDPA, etc) you're gonna have even less life. Moderation in usage seems to work best although that's not a viable option for most of us, myself included. With all the talk about better drivers and power plans, has anyone looked at the possability of the battery being crappy? Could it simply be not enough juice for a device of this caliber?
Bronx31 said:
Your kidding
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You're surprised that this person doesn't know what a softkey is, yet you can't speak english correctly...
i don't use data on my phone during the day and I only use about 3-4% battery power a day with a couple of texts in there.
hidden_hunter said:
i don't use data on my phone during the day and I only use about 3-4% battery power a day with a couple of texts in there.
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You're getting unusually good life. In a good week, I get about two days out of a single charge. When I'm not using several features, the battery drain is approximately 30%-40% in one day. This would be a light workday. More times than not, the drain is around 60%-70%.
GAPY427 said:
You're surprised that this person doesn't know what a softkey is, yet you can't speak english correctly...
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http://www.wordreference.com/enit/kidding= What didn't I speak Correct?
Lol. I'm pretty sure he was talking about your use of "your kidding" instead of "you're kidding"
I just received my fuze for 2 weeks, but my talk time is really bad. I tried almost every radio available with matching rilphone.dll. I see its listed at least 5 hours talk time, but my battery drop like 15% battery with 20 mins talk time. that's with 3G off, data off. just Bluetooth and Phone on. I get about the similar battery life with all the radios.
Well , you can just turn the bluetooth off. I have the same problem when I using bluetooth headset .
I guess the CPU and touch screen takes a lot of power , I have to charge my raphael every day.
maybe you can buy a larger battery .
what other programs are you running? Running this like SPB mobile shell and TF3D are big battery drains. Also, keeping your other programs running in the background is bad for the batterylife. try turning off all programs that you're not using after you're done with them.
I do have SPB Mobile Shell running. does SPB Mobile Shell affect talk time battery life? because it drains about 2-3% the whole night when I sleep.
Bluetooth!
Same here, while using bluetooth, the battery drains like anything. I dont use bluetooth anymore. It sucks but cant help.
sorry for not replying after a while.
i have SPB MS3 and it doesnt really drain it too much (a little bit but not too much)
what rom/radio are you using? those can be very significant factors for battery drain
i dont got a problem with mine, im running XBMods Rhodium TF3D with the AT&T Leaked ROM, with radio 1.12.25.19 i get like 7 hours out of it, without TF3D i get like 8.5 hours, and the reason i have that much its because i keep the phone off as in the screen, and like also i dont do anything to it like txt while on the phone and also signal is also a role in battery life as well
I had bad battery performance with Stock AT&T ROM
Then I flashed the Energy ROM 2.0 two weeks back and now the battery performance is much better
Possible Solution
Battery life on my Fuze sucked so bad the first week I had it. I saw it drop 10 percent just by looking at it for 10 minutes. So i started to dig around here on these awesome forums and the solution was simple. Whether you use stock rom or custom rom. Just find a way to turn off 3g networking. There are a bunch of tricks to do it. One thing i noticed is that my area has barely noticable 3g coverage so i found the signal reception always 1 or 2 bars. When i disabled the 3g connection, i found my battery increased dramatically. You can see for yourself by using DrSigstat. With the 3g its using over 200mah constantly trying to acquire the weak signal. This uses the battery very quickly. With the 3g off I am using as of this message 53Mah which extends battery life immensely. I am only connected to edge checking email every 30 minutes and this phone is usable. If you need the speed you simply toggle the 3g back on. The 3g network drains battery quick disable it I know there are a bunch of CABS to do it and even add it to the Comm Manager. Hopefully this helps.
I had the same problem, but that all changed when I took the phone on a Tahoe trip. Since I was using Garmin, the phone was ON most of the time and about 2 or 3 times the battery completely drained -- the phone got switched off on those occasions. And I used Motorola car charger to charge the phone during that trip.
When I got home a couple of days later, all of a sudden, the battery holds up like anything. Now I can go on without charging for upto 3 days with moderate use of course, but I do have google calendar and contacts sync'd up using activesync, 3G is always on and email sync'd thru pop3. weather and stocks updated few times a day as well.
And soon after I flashed EnergyROM with latest radio and matching rilphone.dll and now I have to admit that its a totally different experience with this ROM and the battery holds really well as well.
So I think that draining the battery completely and charging it using Motorola charger helped and then the EneryROM has a part to play as well.
Like zalooa said above, if you are in a poor 3G coverage area, it's going to drain your battery a lot faster, so location matters as well.