It's been ages and no widcomm / broadcom driver has been released or designed for the wm2005 platform. After installing the wm2005 rom, I figured out what a pissed poor job MS has done with their new BT stack. The BT stack that's embedded within wm2005 is soooooooooooo ****ed up, that it's almost as useless. I sure hope someone would come up with a modified version of the widcomm / broadcom BT stack driver that can actually run on wm2005. I've got my fingers crossed.
Does anyone have a list (or know where I can find the information) about which devices have the Microsoft Bluetooth stack and which have the Widcomm/Broadcom one?
Cheers,
Geoff.
Attn Widcomm & A2DP-users:a new, GREAT hack for all A2DP (Hi-Fi stereo headset) users
Many Dell Axim x50(v) (those that upgraded to WM5) and x51(v) users have noticed the device’s using the Microsoft Bluetooth stack, with all its problems and shortcomings. The situation wasn’t changed much by the AKU2.3-based ROM upgrades, which were only released for the x51(v) series – it only added non-full (for example, it just refuses to work with the Plantronics Pulsar 590A – this has also been reported by Solsie) A2DP support.
The lack of proper, compatible-with-all-headphones A2DP support in the new ROM versions made a lot of Dell Axim users stick with the well-known Widcomm hack to use their stereo BT headphones with their PDA's.
In June, mikelspikel and beemer, the main leaders of the Widcomm project, have released BTSpeedSwitcher, which fixed the problem of the stalling sound transfer between the PDA and the headphones. (For geeks / hackers, here are the Registry values this utility modifies.)
Up to now, it was the only solution for the problem plaguing almost all WM2003(SE) devices (and the WM5 Dells with the Widcomm hack): the sound would just stop after some dozen minutes, which can only be fixed by reconnecting the headset from Bluetooth Manager, after restarting the Bluetooth unit.
Now, mikelspikel has just come up with a much easier and, what is more important, generic hack that seems to be compatible with more models than the speed switcher hack (more on this later):
All you need to do is setting the DWORD Registry value HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ SOFTWARE\Widcomm \BtConfig\ SerialTransport\ FlowControl to 0 (from the default 1). (You can, alternatively, import this registry file if you prefer importing pre-made registry files instead of manually editing the Registry.)
This hack, so far, has proved to be, generally, considerably better on two of my test devices (my old iPAQ h2210 with the HP 1.6 upgrade and the Fujitsu-Siemens Pocket Loox 720 with the PDA2k BT upgrade – please see this article for more info on these upgrades) than the BT speed hack (which doesn’t do anything on these two models, it seems).
Also, I’ve thoroughly tested the new hack with my Dell Axim x51v and found it to be perfect.
Make sure you give it a try! Also, if you have a different model, let the others know how it works.
Note that the hack (as with BTSpeedSwitcher) only works with Widcomm BT stacks. There is no point in trying to apply it on MS BT-stack based devices (to, for example, fix the Pulsar 590 problem).
A chart showing all the results of my tests can be found here
Note that, with the iPAQ h2210, you'll still need to reconnect in about every half an hour (after that time, it just starts to awfully skip). Still, it's much better than the default, hack-less, completely useless case.
Also note that I’ve also elaborated on the HP iPAQ hx4700 + Motorola HT820 combo in the chart as well (which don’t seem to like each other) in the last row.
Menneisyys, do u know if i can try the widcomm hack in my hp 6828?
Is it a Widcomm-based device? If it is, then, yes.
Menneisyys, thanks for your reply. I do not know if it's widcomm based device (or how do i check it?). hp 6828 is manufactured by Quanta similar to Atom and uses MS BT stack.
kjskho1 said:
Menneisyys, thanks for your reply. I do not know if it's widcomm based device (or how do i check it?). hp 6828 is manufactured by Quanta similar to Atom and uses MS BT stack.
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Then, the hack won't work.
However, I've just published a new article on my latest hacks (including MS-related ones) - don't forget to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280454
ok, thanks! checking ur link... sad to say if i need to stick with MS BT stack, it sucks...
Hi guys, I have been trying to get my XDAII to go online THROUGH my desktop computer via bluetooth. PAN.
Sadly, I am having ZERO luck!
On the desktop side, I was using the Toshibia bluetooth stack, I have also tested using the default Microsoft bluetooth stack, And also the bluesoleil stack.
On the XDA side, I tried and failed using WM 6.1 and the default stack, I then upgraded to 6.5 (Which is pretty sweet) and could not get the default stack to work via PAN either. I also installed Widcomm Bluetooth stack which provides much more output than the MS one.
After using the Widcomm drivers, I am getting the impression that my desktop is not offering the PAN service, but I am a little bit confused as to why.
If someone, could provide me with some current and up to date pointers (Please do not link me to random wiki pages made in 2005 - Its all changed!) I would be thankful!
I posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520739 to begin with but i gather that is not the best place do it do
Hello,
did anyone successfully install a different bluetooth stack on a cotulla rom ?
i tried bluesoleil (but i only have a pretty old version). i also tried the toshiba stack (also pretty old version, build for 2003).
both work fine on 2003SE - but none of them work on cotulla rom.
anyone successfully did this ? or what about widcomm/broadcom ? what's so special about the magician bluetooth - i've never seen a widcomm version for magician - but for almost every other HTC device.
(i need a better stack than MS - since MS does not support BT LAN access, neither PAN (client))
In reality it's not easy to change BT Stack on Windows Mobile device...
Now my roms are using MS BT Stack...
I have some research and maybe some future versions will have BroadComm stack...but not sure...
Hello Cotulla,
nice to see you're answering about the bluetooth issue ;-)
broadcomm/widcomm stack would be great off course!
... in the meanwhile: as far i know, no broadcomm exists for magician - not even for the old ROMs - i never understood why (different BT hardware i guess ?).
but
- toshiba and
- bluesoleil exists for the old ROMs
they work - if you disable the microsoft drivers (cause it's not possible that both drivers use the same hardware - i guess).
bluesoleil: comes with a tool to disable the MS stack.
toshiba: you have to do it manually by taking off bticon.dll from HKLM/services.
so i have a question:
"taking off bticon.dll" from HKLM/services" is for 2003SE -> what is to do in WM6 to disable the MS-stack ?
maybe the toshiba/bluesoleil would even work ? did anybody tried before ?
or is this bull**** ? i heard of different "driver-models" between CE 3/4 and CE 5 - so is it even possible to use drivers from CE 3/4 on CE 5 ? i don't know! but i'm sure, you know ! ;-)
thank you cotulla for your great work! i'm wondering how you managed to get that much knowledge about this device! great!