It's been ages and no widcomm / broadcom driver has been released or designed for the wm2005 platform. After installing the wm2005 rom, I figured out what a pissed poor job MS has done with their new BT stack. The BT stack that's embedded within wm2005 is soooooooooooo ****ed up, that it's almost as useless. I sure hope someone would come up with a modified version of the widcomm / broadcom BT stack driver that can actually run on wm2005. I've got my fingers crossed.
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Hi guys, just a crazy idea.
I loaded my old XDA II with the WM2005 ROM that is floating around in the XDA forum.
First of all I can confirm all the bugs and problems people face with this obvious BETA build of WM2005 on the XDA II, but…
I found the improved MS Bluetooth stack quite interesting.
So here’s an idea:
Would it be possible to extract all WM2005 BT parts (files and registry entries) form the XDA II and place them onto the Magician.
Obviously the XDA II is using a different BT chip, as the Magician, but I found in the registry of the XDA II
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\HCI
the bthcsr.dll
and in the Magician registry
the bthusb.dll instead.
And we know from the exercise with the Bluesoil stack that the Magician uses some kind of USB BT chip.
So I believe these are the driver dll’s for the different BT chips, so by keeping the bthusb.dll on the Magician the WM2005 stack may accepts it.
So here’s the problem:
I managed to export all WM2005 BT registry entries I found, but I got stuck by copying the bt*.* files (dll, etc.) of the XDA II, as they are obviously in the ROM and Resco File Explores can’t copy them.
Even if we manage to get the files, I believe we face the same problem how to override and load them into the Magician.
Maybe by copying them into a different path then \Windows, a directory in the RAM and set the pointers in the registry to this location.
I know it’s probably a hopeless project, but maybe some of you are mad enough and have some ideas and ways of doing it ;-)
I’m happy to help with everything, getting the stuff of my WM2005 XDA II, so let me know if you have some ideas.
Torsten
Can you tell us please, if there is any new features in BT stack? Any voice dial support?
BT profiles I found in WM2005
Hi, had a quick look through the WM2005 registry and found the following BT profiles:
- Serial Port
- Dial Up Networking
- Headset
- Hands Free
- Input Device (probably Keyboard etc.)
- Active Sync
YES!!! I wish we could!
:idea: :idea: :idea:
Lets see a cab file include the reg and the dll files with the new features 8)
torklemm,
can u dump the rom and upload it to xda ftp?!
Ecactly my problem, never did that 'dump rom' excercise, and I'm not to deep into that Hex code hacking to do it myself, so if anyone else can get us a dump of that WM2005 Rom so that we can try to integrate the required dll files and registry entries into the Magician, that would help.
Ahmmm
guys...
why dont u try the bluetooth stack provided by widcomm instead... it has more features than the 2005 microsoft stack as well, u'll save hell a lot of time and energy extracting only the blutooth stack from the package and am using the widcomm stack currently... it works like a charm... though mine is a himalaya but i've upgraded to win2003se
ROM Version : 2.06,00WWE
Radio Version :1.14.00
ExtROM Version : 2.06.00a
See if u like it... u'll find the widcomm stack on this forum itself, in the Himalaya Upgrading section... but this stack doesnt work with the radio and rom version that himalaya provides... i actually upgraded to the new OS version mainly for the widcomm stack and ofcourse why would i mind a landscape view
adios
always
mOrph
mi amigo
I have tried installing the latest widcomm drivers... well not just the latest one.. all of them.. but it always gives an error about the lack of memory even tho there are lots of memory to spear.... so no one till now could figure out how to make it work on the imate jam...
I can't see it mentioned on any of the reviews for this device, which bluetooth stack is supplied with this device (broadcomm/microsoft)?
Thanks
No one got one of these devices and can take a look?
The Tornado has the Microsoft Bluetooth Stack.
Great! Thanks for the info.
As far as I know, all WM5 devices have the MS stack. If Broadcomm has revised their stack for WM5, no OEM I know of has decided to use it.
I have the Sound processor from RockfordFosgate wchith communicates over Bluetooth with WM5/6/6.1 PDAs for now i can communicate over BT with my HTC Wizard but when I try to start the software on Acer n310 (WM5, or 6.1) then i get error:
TypeLoadException
at MyProject.Program.Main()
does anyone know what can be done?
I called RockfordFosgate but they dont know anything about solution and say Acer n310 may not be supported, but it has same CPU as the supported E-Ten G500+.
xequtor said:
I have the Sound processor from RockfordFosgate wchith communicates over Bluetooth with WM5/6/6.1 PDAs for now i can communicate over BT with my HTC Wizard but when I try to start the software on Acer n310 (WM5, or 6.1) then i get error:
TypeLoadException
at MyProject.Program.Main()
does anyone know what can be done?
I called RockfordFosgate but they dont know anything about solution and say Acer n310 may not be supported, but it has same CPU as the supported E-Ten G500+.
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Go through the basic requirements for some of the programs... For instance, does it require CompactFramework 3.5? Is your BT connection established? Just go through them and see if you are missing something...
yes .NET 3.5 is installed BT is working and I did pair with the device.
I will re flash my PDA and try again but don't think this will help.
3Sixty.2 for PDA requires Microsoft BT stack, I use WM6.1 and I think it has MS BT stack.
ok, i know now what the problem is, the Acer n300 uses Broadcomm BT stack and this app needs MS BT stack. Now I have to find out how to install MS BT stack and even don't know if its possible
Hi guys, I have been trying to get my XDAII to go online THROUGH my desktop computer via bluetooth. PAN.
Sadly, I am having ZERO luck!
On the desktop side, I was using the Toshibia bluetooth stack, I have also tested using the default Microsoft bluetooth stack, And also the bluesoleil stack.
On the XDA side, I tried and failed using WM 6.1 and the default stack, I then upgraded to 6.5 (Which is pretty sweet) and could not get the default stack to work via PAN either. I also installed Widcomm Bluetooth stack which provides much more output than the MS one.
After using the Widcomm drivers, I am getting the impression that my desktop is not offering the PAN service, but I am a little bit confused as to why.
If someone, could provide me with some current and up to date pointers (Please do not link me to random wiki pages made in 2005 - Its all changed!) I would be thankful!
I posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=520739 to begin with but i gather that is not the best place do it do
Hello,
did anyone successfully install a different bluetooth stack on a cotulla rom ?
i tried bluesoleil (but i only have a pretty old version). i also tried the toshiba stack (also pretty old version, build for 2003).
both work fine on 2003SE - but none of them work on cotulla rom.
anyone successfully did this ? or what about widcomm/broadcom ? what's so special about the magician bluetooth - i've never seen a widcomm version for magician - but for almost every other HTC device.
(i need a better stack than MS - since MS does not support BT LAN access, neither PAN (client))
In reality it's not easy to change BT Stack on Windows Mobile device...
Now my roms are using MS BT Stack...
I have some research and maybe some future versions will have BroadComm stack...but not sure...
Hello Cotulla,
nice to see you're answering about the bluetooth issue ;-)
broadcomm/widcomm stack would be great off course!
... in the meanwhile: as far i know, no broadcomm exists for magician - not even for the old ROMs - i never understood why (different BT hardware i guess ?).
but
- toshiba and
- bluesoleil exists for the old ROMs
they work - if you disable the microsoft drivers (cause it's not possible that both drivers use the same hardware - i guess).
bluesoleil: comes with a tool to disable the MS stack.
toshiba: you have to do it manually by taking off bticon.dll from HKLM/services.
so i have a question:
"taking off bticon.dll" from HKLM/services" is for 2003SE -> what is to do in WM6 to disable the MS-stack ?
maybe the toshiba/bluesoleil would even work ? did anybody tried before ?
or is this bull**** ? i heard of different "driver-models" between CE 3/4 and CE 5 - so is it even possible to use drivers from CE 3/4 on CE 5 ? i don't know! but i'm sure, you know ! ;-)
thank you cotulla for your great work! i'm wondering how you managed to get that much knowledge about this device! great!