Please write here the differences between the TYTN & the XDA MINI S. Are there really any that make it worth the wait??
Ill start off.
TYTN = 400 MHz stacked Samsung processor
XDA MINI S = TI OMAP 850 200 MHz
hope his topic helps all those looking for a great phone.
Kind Regards
Duncan.Mc
Horses and donkeys do belong to the same family, nevertheless they really differ under so many aspects....
I mean that you can't compare a UMTS (3G) device with a 2.5G device. If you need 3G (and videocall), you have to go for the Hermes, if not go for the Wizard. You really can't notice the different processor speed in everyday use IMHO...
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HI
can anyone help me to know whats the difference between XDA IIi and the new arriving PPC XDA wizard
which are good
Intel PXA 272 520 or TI omap 850 ?
i want to buy one of them for three month later and i want to know which are best
thanks for your regard
This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
gzprophet said:
This is a question that maybe a lot of members have.
As we known OMAP850 has 2 cores 200 Mhz for GSM and 200 Mhz for WM App
And that is great ... But what happend with INTEL Processors?
I was looking info on the web about PXA27X and how manage the Mhz when WM have app running and have a incoming call.
Example. If a INTEL PXA27X has 400 Mhz how much Mhz will gone in GSM.
Or INTEL PXA27X has another core for GSM? Like OMAP850?
Or when has a incomming call the 400Mhz goes to 300Mhz or less ?
I got a TEK S200 and I ask this because I wanna buy another PDA, maybe HTC, ETEN or HP and i have this doubt.
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I'm not really sure what you mean - do you mean if the CPU has enough computation power to execute other tasks while the GSM is active?
If you have followed my articles (most importantly, the ones concerning recording phone calls), you already know the answer: yes, the CPU has the power to execute almost anything else. I haven't made exact CPU usage benchmarks (with acbTaskMan), but I don't think the CPU usage of the GSM module is higher than, say, 20% on a 416 MHz XScale.
it all depends on yr usage. and what u do with yr pda phone.
omap is good for battery life, if u just do appointment & task, simple mp3 leisure yes its for u (dun think abt video)
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices but have customize the chip so that u can choose between PERFORMANCE or BATTERY LIFE. appears in XDA IIi (htc/ppc2003), STEALTH (gigabyte/wm5), Zinc (asus/wm5/6), Atom Life (quanta/wm5/6), Flame (arima/wm5). so far only o2/asus/gigabyte have such feature for their pda phone.
so if you like multifunction/tasking(skype/msn/wifi/internet radio/surfing). get a good device, like ATOM LIFE
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
Tabbe said:
samsung chip, for 3g, good for almost all but cant support better playback for dvd quality example MOV files on tcpmp
intel chip, 416mhz is good for everything, skype, youtube, mov dvd quality video play back. but battery life sucks...
as HTC use more of TI OMAP on non 3g or SAMSUNG chip for 3g device.
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Also add the new Qualcomm MSM7200 chipset. It seems hardware manufacturers are switching to it and ditch at least the not very multimedia-friendly Samsung. (I bet something similar will alos happen to XScale, unless they manage to radically reduce their power consumption.)
Tabbe said:
oh one more, XDA 1 is using INTEL 150mhz if i recall haha
so if u like intel so much & u want that speed, find wallaby haha
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f-ing idiots should just keep their mouths shut. It's 208MHz, you moron. And the guy is asking about processor division of resources, not saying he wants Intel. GOT THAT? or do you need further translation?
raymondu999: I'm gonna ask you to control yourself next time. Such attitude will not be tolerated here. Thank you.
"while O2 Asia use INTEL chip for all the devices "
o2 is a phone company they dont make phones the oem phones from other companys
afaik the omap850 is not a real dual-core cpu, because both cores are not the same. one is used for normal apps and the OS and a simpler one takes care of the GSM part.
So... OMAP850 is a Simple Processor for GSM + 200 Mhz Processor for apps
Then my doubt is how Intel manage this, if a device has a spec of processor 416mhz , this 416mhz are for GSM and Apps.
I read in some posts that Intel processors has troubles to manage GSM-APPS-WIFI etc.
intel dont magede gsm and wifi
it's handled by 3th party chips i believe
it would simply see them as IO devices
Hi @ll..
i will buy the new HTC TyTN II in the next 2 weeks. This one has an Qualcomm 7200 Processor with a speed of 400 Mhz.
Today i found the XDA Flame (cause of the GeForce 5500 ;-) ) and found out, that its the Toshiba G900 with a XScale PXA270 with 520 Mhz.
But this Processor is older than the one of Qualcomm, isn´t it?
So my question:
is the qualcomm a better processor than XScale? Is it also faster? (i know.. 520Mhz vs 400Mhz.. i mean this, like on PCs.. i.e. a Pentium 3 with 300 Mhz is also faster than Pentium 2 with 300 Mhz)
thanxx
HTC TyTN processor vs. XDA Flame processor
I think that because the flame has the GoForce 5500 GPU in it, it means that the main processor doesn't have to worry with graphics - leaving it free to process other stuff. So it's more powerful then. I've got one, and it's pretty quick.
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I think that because the flame has the GoForce 5500 GPU in it, it means that the main processor doesn't have to worry with graphics - leaving it free to process other stuff. So it's more powerful then. I've got one, and it's pretty quick.
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However, don't forget that VERY FEW OpenGL ES games / emus / demos (all desginedearlier for the 2700G) run on the Flame.
nEuDy said:
Hi @ll..
i will buy the new HTC TyTN II in the next 2 weeks. This one has an Qualcomm 7200 Processor with a speed of 400 Mhz.
Today i found the XDA Flame (cause of the GeForce 5500 ;-) ) and found out, that its the Toshiba G900 with a XScale PXA270 with 520 Mhz.
But this Processor is older than the one of Qualcomm, isn´t it?
So my question:
is the qualcomm a better processor than XScale? Is it also faster? (i know.. 520Mhz vs 400Mhz.. i mean this, like on PCs.. i.e. a Pentium 3 with 300 Mhz is also faster than Pentium 2 with 300 Mhz)
thanxx
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Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342500 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745
hi, i try to run android on my htc tytn ii, but haret freeze!! in the "HaRET: Booting Linux ...", i send messages to a file and show this:
HaRET(1)# set MTYPE 1553
HaRET(3)# set KERNEL zImage-kaiser-new.bin
HaRET(5)# set RAMSIZE 0x7800000
HaRET(6)# set RAMADDR 0x10000000
HaRET(11)# set INITRD android.bin
HaRET(15)# bootlinux
boot KERNEL=zImage-kaiser-new.bin INITRD=android.bin
Opening file zImage-kaiser-new.bin
Opening file android.bin
boot params: RAMADDR=10000000 RAMSIZE=07800000 MTYPE=1553 CMDLINE='root=/dev/ram0 ro console=tty0'
Boot FB feedback: 1
Built virtual to physical page mapping
Allocated 5368 pages (tags=56000000/15f34000 kernel=56001000/15f2e000 initrd=56117000/15e1a000 index=574EF000/14a40000)
Built kernel tags area
Built page index
Video buffer at 51B00000 sx=240 sy=320 mx=60 my=53
Video Phys FB=10000000 Fonts=14a39064
Framebuffer overlaps with kernel destination
[email protected]/14a38000 sj=574F7000 stack=574F5000/14a3a000 data=574F6000/14a39000 exec=14a38128
Reading 1138124 bytes...
Read complete
Reading 20804139 bytes...
Read complete
Launching to physical address 14a38010
Trampoline setup ([email protected]/220255f4/107fd5f4)
MMU setup: mmu=A0300000/10600000
Go Go Go...
twice it has worked, not because it fails.
Any idea?
I have used XDA Life with Intel 620mhz & then I used TyTn II, I feel the TyTn II is much better then Life. it has no problem with what so ever while running apps. my vote goes to tytn II.
Hey,
Im gonna buy a new PDA.
And im in doubt between the ELFin and Polaris.
The Polaris has a GPS onboard, and 256 mem... Other specs looks the same. But is it better as a ELFin?
Are there any negative things about one of them?
Thanks,
HP197
P.s. A read that the Polaris has a 400Mhz proc onboard. But is it a real 400Mhz proc? Or a shared Proc like the Artemis? That one had a 400Mhz proc, but WM had only 200Mhz for usage, the other 200Mhz was used for GPS signals etc etc...
elfin? http://www.cvcoffee.com/prod_images_blowup/Elfin-Blow-Up1.jpg
?
do you mean elf?
if so then they are way different elf is one of the weakest pda's htc have
and polaris is pretty ok
here you can compare
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Polaris
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
Rudegar said:
elfin? http://www.cvcoffee.com/prod_images_blowup/Elfin-Blow-Up1.jpg
?
do you mean elf?
if so then they are way different elf is one of the weakest pda's htc have
and polaris is pretty ok
here you can compare
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Polaris
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Elf
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No, i mean the ELFin...
Its the updated version of a ELF, with 400mhz proc, and 128mb mem.
P.s. If i looks to the wiki, i think the official name is Vogue. But some of this forum members call it ELFin
Vogue: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=803&view=1
Polaris: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=801&view=1
ahhh got it
welll Vogue dont have gps as you mention and nor does it have umts or hsdpa
== as slow internet
and it's cam dont have autofocus (not sure how much this mean as i've yet to se a photo taken with any phone which was worth printing to papir or setting as wallpapir on a pc)
also as you mention 400Mhz is not really an universaly good way of measuring speed of the device
only a benchmark will show a good picture of how much difference there is between a
Qualcomm 400Mhz of polaris and
OMAP 400MHz of vogue
Rudegar said:
ahhh got it
welll Vogue dont have gps as you mention and nor does it have umts or hsdpa
== as slow internet
and it's cam dont have autofocus (not sure how much this mean as i've yet to se a photo taken with any phone which was worth printing to papir or setting as wallpapir on a pc)
also as you mention 400Mhz is not really an universaly good way of measuring speed of the device
only a benchmark will show a good picture of how much difference there is between a
Qualcomm 400Mhz of polaris and
OMAP 400MHz of vogue
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Euhhmmm, touch dual (Vogue) does have HSPDA... Only the elf doesnt, but that is the older model. The Vogue is the follow up of the ELF.
But anyway..
Thanks for the info.
Still not sure wich one im gonna take
Edit The Vogue is also missing WIFI. So, it misses 128mb, GPS and WIFI.
Thats a big miss, my vote goes to the Polaris...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Vogue
of cause the wiki of this site is hardly failable but it say that it's
edge and gsm only
also before i checked that wiki i believed the vogue to be only cdma (the american cellphone network which is not gsm)
maybe the vogue forum could bring light to what network it really use
but if it lack wifi which is also strange since elf's wiki say it have that
Rudegar said:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Vogue
of cause the wiki of this site is hardly failable but it say that it's
edge and gsm only
also before i checked that wiki i believed the vogue to be only cdma (the american cellphone network which is not gsm)
maybe the vogue forum could bring light to what network it really use
but if it lack wifi which is also strange since elf's wiki say it have that
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About the hsdpa on the vogue: Vogue page on a other site, translated to english with google translate (orig: dutch)
About the touch dual with / without wifi: Same site, also translated with google
Look at the end of the page, where all the specs are.
This is one of the more respected online shops for PDA's in the Netherlands. So i suppose there information is right. And i dont think they disabled wifi for our country only. Because the usage of wifi is totaly legal here (some countries does not allow it).
Howwww...
Now i see... Im talking about the vogue...
But the vogue isnt the same as the HTC touch dual (Vogue = P3050, Touch Dual = P5500)
That would explain some mis understandings...
So im comparing between the P3650 (aka Polaris) and the P5500 (Touch Dual... Build name?¿?).
Wich in my eye, the P3650 is the better one.
EDIT:
P5500 Aka Touch Dual == HTC Niki
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=736
Its clear for me...
I Go for the Polaris...
Just because its the one with the most features.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=801&id2=736
Hi everyone,
i want to know if we can change the processors of android phones.
my phone is "olive pad vt 100, running android froyo with a 667 mhz qualcom m7227 processor.
i want to change it to some other more powerful processor like snapdragon 1 mhz or somthing like that.
any kinds of sugesstions(positive or negative) are welcome
thanks you.
PS:
i know this is not the rightplace to post this kind of question.but i've searched google and also other forums in this site. there is no forum related to hardware.
Bryandeep said:
Hi everyone,
i want to know if we can change the processors of android phones.
my phone is "olive pad vt 100, running android froyo with a 667 mhz qualcom m7227 processor.
i want to change it to some other more powerful processor like snapdragon 1 mhz or somthing like that.
any kinds of sugesstions(positive or negative) are welcome
thanks you.
PS:
i know this is not the rightplace to post this kind of question.but i've searched google and also other forums in this site. there is no forum related to hardware.
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Hi, Bryandeep -
While it is technically feasible, if the following is true:
The new processor is from the same chipset family, and
The new processor pinout is identical. and
The support chipsets can handle the higher speeds & currents, and
You can purchase the processor (or, get a manufacturer sample), and
You have access to and the talent for using a surface mount desoldering / soldering station.
... In reality, the answer is "No". You would be much better off (and probably a ton cheaper) to go buy the fastest and most powerful Android tablet that is available on the planet in about 3 months.
That's why you aren't seeing many (any?) posts on CPU "upgrades" for smartphones.