Is it just me, or is it not a bit tedious to actually terminate a program?
I would suggest adding a minimize-icon to the upper right besides the X-icon. Then the minimize would do what the X does today, and the X-icon would actually truly terminate the program. This would be much more inline with desktop program-use, and to me more logical.
Alternatively the X-icon would offer minimizing or termination when holding the icon. That would be even sweeter maybe...
I'm new to the pocket/smartphone PC thing as of yesterday, but this already bugs me a bit. And I realize this might be daunting task, but it could also be a quite easy fix. But again, I know little of the Windows mobil system.
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson
Most people use a task manager, my favourite is a piece of freeware called Magic Button. Google for it and you should be able to download it, it basically allows you to close applications properly rather than minimise them when you press the x button.
HTH
Fin
smartskey (spelled the way i wrote it) is the best app for this as it remaps the softkeys and truly closes the app. do a search for it here. everyone swears by it.
some programs go loco if they get terminated
mw programs was never really ment to be terminated
the os kill them when it wants to free memory
guess they made it that way to speed up things
outlook if terminated right when you send and sms get upset
and act up and piles of ppl report it as an bug in this forum
I actually installed the first suggested. Seems to do the right thing, but are a bit unstable. Have had a few issues with it, but I'm getting used to work it as it expect to be rather than using it's "undocumented features"...
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson
If you get it to keep messaging, activesync, and the phone applications alive, and tick in the options to hide when inactive, it works perfectly AFAIK.
Fin
i use handyswitcher, is very cool and you can specify the tasks that you do not wanna terminate when you close all like activesync
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Hiya,
I'm wonderin what the close button in WM 5.0 is actually doing. I read in another forum, that when you press the close button, the assigned process is getting the status idle and isn't using any resources anymore.
When you start a programm then, that needs more memory, the idle process will be closed, so that the new process has more resources.
Does any of you has a propper idea of whats going on in there exactly?
Thank
benbee
Yep.
What you read is more like wishful thinking.
The 'smart minimize' (X) button as Microsoft calls it does just that - it minimizes the window.
The process continues to run in the background, and even if it does nothing, it still takes up memory.
Apps are not close automatically. If you are running low on memory you get a popup asking you which apps to close.
You can close apps by going to Start->Settings->Memory->Running Application or install a 3rd party software like MagikButton.
Thanks...
...for your help. Where'd you got the information from? I mean i'm still lookin for some documentation on this feature.
kind regards
benbee
I got the info from using 2 different devices (see my sig) one with WM2003 SE and one with WM5 for over tear and a half.
And various sources like www.pocketpcdn.com
What you read might have been MS intention at some point, I don't know but in reality (and I am speaking from experience here) things are exactly as I told you.
Stupid Button
I concurr... By the year 2020 MS will have incorporated the auto close facility.
hi chaps
right, here's my problem:
i've got a prophet running the latest dopod rom. all's well in pda land. unfortunately, i've had to do some fiddling to get o2's homezone app working the way it should do. more or less. see, the thing is when my device wakes up, the homezone app HZDisplayDataSMP is always in the foreground. so before i can do anything i have to press the OK button. now, i can sort of live with this, as i have homezone functionality, but it's, well, a pain in the arse, to be honest.
so, my question to you guys is this: does anyone know of a WM5 programme that will run apps, but force them to remain in the background. i was thinking of some resident startup item that would keep the app hidden away nicely from my interface, but continue to allow it to do what it needs to.
does anyone know of anything that sounds useful? if so, you're my man. i've got a hunch our good vijay555 might be able to lend a hand, but feel free to throw suggestions at me.
thanks a million, guys
I was asked about a similar app recently, to run apps minimised.
I've had major troubles rebuilding my PC after I installed the Vista Beta and it decided to eat my Documents & Settings and Program Files.
I'm finally back up to speed and able to start programming again, so will try to look into it.
But it should be easy enough for a developer to knock together with ShellExecute.
In the meantime, you might want to use a mort script to find the window by caption and minimise it. Or SK Schema should be able to do exactly what you want, run an event when it finds a window by caption.
V
righto! thanks for the heads-up. really appreciate it, pal. i'll have a look into both of those suggestions.
ps: the only reason to install vista is halo 2 pc. can't think of any other factor which would cause me to pollute my hard drive with such nonsense
Afternoon everyone. I'm a long time HTC Hermes user but have always missed the one-hand of my old Treo 650. So yesterday I picked up a used 750 ($150 not bad). It had WM5 on it so I promptly upgraded it to WM6 with the stock ATT rom.
What I didn't realize is that everything that ran on my Hermes isn't going to run on my Treo. I have two big irritations that I hope someone can clear up for me.
First is with the HTC Home Plugin. The plugin installs and runs fine (along with the HTCCustomize). However its the problem is with the Today screen item called Dialpad Lookup. If I uncheck this item then I lose button functionality, for example hitting the red button to lock and turn off the screen. The only thing I have seen for this is some registry tweaks to let you move the Dialpad Lookup up or down. Any ideas what to do about this?
Second is there is no Task Manager / X to Close instead of Hide program. I tried to install HTC Task Manager a couple times and each time had to Hard reset to defaults. I also tried SPB Pocket Plus, which is what I used on my Hermes, and every time that resulted in neverending lockups and hard resets.
What app are you using to make the X a close (OK button to minimize) and to Task Manage?
Thanks!
I use SPB Pocket Plus on Treo 750v WM6 without any problem...sorry, not much help.
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Hey d00d,
Just got my Treo and been playing with it a bit.
As for HTC Home i use and recommend Touch Commander which simulate the Home Screen and adds some HTC cube capabilities. it's nice though it costs money.
As for the Dial Lookup issue, What i did is Hide the Lookup (Menu --- Preferences --- Hide Lookup field) BUT you have to leave the dial lookup plugin enabled on the today Settings.
Now you will have the Red Button feature without the lookup field on the today screen.
Last thing regarding the task manager, i use tman - the best i've used so far.
You may also like Task Manager in Battery Status plugin - good as well
Hope i helped
qbout task manager
I used magic button and it is free and I think that it is the best.
task manager
I use the 1.5 version of vp3g x button which works on my wife treo. and I have oxios to keep it clean, I however haven't managed to get the htc home going like the one on my hermes
Try WKTask
I've tried all kinds of task managers over the last couple of years that I've had my 750 and the best one I've found is called WKTask. I highly recommend it because not only does it give the X in the corner, but it also gives you the equivalent of a task tray across the top of the screen which allows you to quickly switch from one application to another. It also has a nifty launcher utility. Go to the site and check it out:
http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
I am in no way associated or affiliated with the product, I just really dig it and it's free too. It may seem a little complicated at first, but it's easier than you think and worth the effort to learn the capabilities.
Andrew
If you upgrade to WM6.1 it finally includes a task manager and all you have to do is hold down the "ok" button and the task manager appears.
The task manager is included since WM5 and if I remember it correct since WM2003, new is that it is available from the ok-button (I think this is palm-specific).
I use wisbar lite, not free, but easy to use and also with the buttons of all apps on top and You can configure it to close every app with the "X" instead of minimizing it.
Available from
http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/
abs99 said:
I've tried all kinds of task managers over the last couple of years that I've had my 750 and the best one I've found is called WKTask. I highly recommend it because not only does it give the X in the corner, but it also gives you the equivalent of a task tray across the top of the screen which allows you to quickly switch from one application to another. It also has a nifty launcher utility. Go to the site and check it out:
http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
I am in no way associated or affiliated with the product, I just really dig it and it's free too. It may seem a little complicated at first, but it's easier than you think and worth the effort to learn the capabilities.
Andrew
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I'm glad it works on square screen, because it's truly the most important utility on my TyTN.
When I open contacts and chose a contact to make a call, after finishing a call phone application closes but contacts remains open.
Is there a way for contacts to close automatically after making a call?
thank you for answer in advance.
I have HTC touch cruise wih original WWE WM6.1 ROM.
Don't know about the default contacts app but i use iContact and it is set to close on use - problem solved.
thank you for answer. This iContact application looks good.
But problem is, since I use original ROM I can't remove original applications, and I
don't want to install any unnecessary application, especially if it is double.
I do that only if it's really neccessary (like Skyfire because of flash).
The installation of iContact will remap the "Contacts" soft key to itself so in all honesty you wont see the built in app unless you actively seek out th eshortcut created fo rit. The one on your Start menu will also be remapped.
For me its one of the must have apps to get a finger friendly PPC.
I understand I won't see original application. But it will be there. And that is what I don't like. I don't like hidden unneccessery things in windows on my PC or PPC. So I would like to find a solution with original application (which is finger frendly BTW). This is it's only lack. And inability to hide SIM contacts which doesn't bug me that much.
But if I don't find solution I will definitely try this application. And maybe you can suggest me best version since I found more of them here on xda-developers.
Thank you
You can't remove the original version as it's provided in the ROM and so without cooking your own ROM it can't be removed. The original is not overly finger friendly unless you have wee fingers.
Given your dislike of duplication of software does this mean you surf using IE.
Personally i am using the Burt Edition v6.4.5 of iContact.
unfortunately if you'd like to change preferences on your device... and enhance it, you will also have to install new applications as not all default apps can be changed the way we want.
you have a touch cruise. it's a strong device, with enough memory to hold lots of applications. don't worry about it.
Ok. I know I have to install new apps and to try things if I want to enhance performance of my mobile. And I do that. I try things and I have to hard reset sometimes because of it. And I know my phone is capable of having a lot applications installed. That's why I bought it.
I just want to find the solution that pleases me the best.
And because original application is good enough to me, except this exit problem, I think best solution would be to have original application and make it close after use.
I don't like having double applications because of my experience with windows. Everything in registry decreases performance and if I have a few applications for same thing there's usually some kind of conflict.
But as I said I do try things in search of best solution, so I tried iContact.
It really is great application, much much better than original. and much more finger friendliy.
I decided to keep it.
And then I noticed that my cube freezes after using iContact. It seems to be a common problem and I found no solution for it.
So I'm back on the beginning.
Anyway, thank you for your help, ideas and suggestions.
Good Morning All,
I've now had over a week with my Touch Pro 2. I like it in several ways and hate it in several others.
Videos, YouTube/etc look absolutely phenomenal...this looks like hdtv, the iphone looks like fuzzy pixelated sdtv...(the gf has an iphone)
maybe its that i get much better bandwidth on sprint compared to at&t, i dunno don't care...
I welcome that larger battery!!
I hate the functionality of the quick menu. In my TP(1), I used this heavily as it always showed the running applications. In my TP2, I barely see anything listed in there, especially running web browsers, I have to click on Internet/Launch Browser to get back to my running Browser.
I also haven't found a good copy of the HTC Wifi Router-Comm Manager combo application. But, I have found versions of the OTHER mobile wifi router on another ppc forum website.
I have other gripes, but I figured I'd start with these and see what others suggest. I always meant to install a new rom on my TP(1) and never got around to it. Maybe there's a rom that'll fit me better that others can suggest.
Paul
Everything "might change" once the "oft spoken off but never seen" update to 6.5.x comes from Sprint.
Depending on what market you're in the bandwidth might be reason.
I use WMWiFiRouter to share/tether my connection without issue. I've been using that since my Mogul (never had the TP).
You could use the FTC Task Manager to see everything running but that wouldn't solve your request to easily switch. The Task Manager on my Mogul was better so I agree with you on the TP2 one not being as good.
What other gripes do you have (I bet one of them is the CM_Guardian_Service)?
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I hate the functionality of the quick menu. In my TP(1), I used this heavily as it always showed the running applications. In my TP2, I barely see anything listed in there, especially running web browsers, I have to click on Internet/Launch Browser to get back to my running Browser.
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Sprint defaults the "X" to close (rather than suspend). Thusly you'll never see anything in your quick menu if you always tap "X" to close a window. Go into the options and change it to the older default (tap to close the window not the program) and the quick menu will behave as you remember.
Search for "CM Internet Sharing".
Thanks for the tips guys!
I'll try the Tap X to.... in a few moments...
Yea I can't wait to try 6.5.X
My Boss has the Vz TP2 and I'm itchin' to do his upgrade just to see what changes there are.
I Hope sprint doesn't drop the ball on this.
Paul
FDC Task Manager is way better than the stock TM. I hate that the built-in TM doesn't show 3/4 of the crap that I run. And what is the exclusive list for? Nothing is ever in there. With FDC, it's exactly like XP Task Manager but way better. Shows EVERYTHING, not to mention all the running services, open windows, full blow registry editor, IP/TCP services. etc etc. Go get it, it's free.