Hi there, this is probably a dumb question so if it is im sorry
Today a saw someone with a xda and realised instantly how cool it would be to have one to use the wifi at work, what i am interested in finding out is..
If I got a unlocked one and put an orange network card into it would it work?
Then would i be able to log onto the wifi at my place of work?
And if i can log on do i just pay the wifi providors charges or do i have to pay something to my phonelne providor too?
Thank you in advance, again sorry if im wasting anyones time.
the wifi depends on who's wifi you are using
generally it's free say for example your home connection if you make one
the one at work is probably free as well provided you have the setup
the only time it isn't really free is some hotspots may charge, but they have special passwords or logins so that you can't get on, or if your provider offers special hotspots
so treat it as free, if it isn't, it will say so (most of the time)
Thanks
I do have an account at work, I just wanted to make sure that I didnt *have* to use my providors network, like it didnt class as per mb on my phone too. But thats fantastic, your providor always seems to charge way to much.
if you're specifically talking about about your work connection, i'm sure it won't cost you because wifi doesn't use the provider's airwaves
fantastic
thanks for the help
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Hi guys,
Was wandering if someone could help me out with, rather, strange question.
I want to use an Android phone to make calls, but do not want to sign up with any cell phone company. I live in New brunswick, Fredericton, we have free wireless internet.
I want to make use of it, but so far I have not found a concrete answer.
I have started a thread about this on another android forums, if you want more details, or just ask me:
http://forums.androidandme.com/topic/how-to-use-free-internet-with-android-without-cell-plan
Any help is Great appreciated!
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...e-accused-over-android-skype-app-block-628218
maybe if they get it to work
with skype you still of cause are charged to pay when you call normal phones
Yeah, that's interesting.
I find the whole situation with cell phone companies stupid, charging outrageous rates for what should really be included in your home internet fee.
In any case, I was wandering if a solution exists for right now It doesn't have to be free, but at least cheaper than buying an unlimited plan from rogers or what-not.
Or are there other phones (except Android) that can do this instead?
Thanks
yes skype is out for
windows mobile
heck even iphone got it
but you have to remember that if you call normal phones
cell or land-line you have to pay skype as they offer the link to
gsm and land-line which have no connection to the Internet you get
when you connect to wifi
just wanted to make sure you didn't have the impression that it was 1 big network
it's not
kinda like one can't send an email to a person with not computer and expect a free service
which print the email and put it in the physically mailbox of the person
I understand that I have to pay skype or someone else for calling landlines. That is Fine with me.
However, with Skype (for example and iphone/windows mobile?), can I use the phone even if I don't have a SIM card/cell phone plan?
Rudegar said:
yes skype is out for
windows mobile
heck even iphone got it
but you have to remember that if you call normal phones
cell or land-line you have to pay skype as they offer the link to
gsm and land-line which have no connection to the Internet you get
when you connect to wifi
just wanted to make sure you didn't have the impression that it was 1 big network
it's not
kinda like one can't send an email to a person with not computer and expect a free service
which print the email and put it in the physically mailbox of the person
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yes you can even use a non phone pda with wifi or an ipod touch
when you have wifi you have the same possibilities as with a computer
That sounds cool. Thanks,
Another question:
Is there a way I can use my phone/pda as a Gps device?
If I have no plan, I can't connect to satelite either?
Or do some phones provide some kind of tom-tom enabled capabilities?
Hi i have mobile wifi router installed on my phone (came with duttys rom) and i was wondering if using it my network could tell and charge me extra?
I have an unlimited data plan but i know I could pay an extra £10 and then my phone could be used as a mobile boradband device, does this mean that if i try to use the mobile wifi router program that my carrier would be able to tell and block it or charge me extra?
Also is there a way to share the phone connection with a pc without using wifi and without having to buy the networks extra mobile boradband package because I will almost never use it but its good to know i have the option if i go on holiday or whatever, maybe i want to prows the web in the garden soemthing like that
no wifi works even if you don't have a sim card in the phone
just like pda's with wifi and no phone
just like your laptop connecting with wifi to the router
just like your desktop connecting with wifi or cable to the router
no its not that, mobile wifi router converts your phone into a router so your laptop/whatever can connect to it and use its data connection to connect to the internet, I was just wondering if doing this the network can tell and then charge me extra as they usually charge for using your phone as an internet access point
the connection from the phone to the laptop or computer is free anything wifi
the cost to go onto internet will however depend on your satat rates, just to be sure id ask your operator
Hi thanks for trying to help, but thats not what I was asking. I know wifi connections are free what I was asking is if my operator will be able to tell the difference between my phone using its data connection and my laptop using my phones data connection.
The reason I ask is that I have unlimited data for my phone.
but
you can pay extra money to upgrade your account to allow your phone to be used as a mobile broadband dongle
but if they can't tell the difference between phone using its data and pc using its data then there is no need to pay the extra money.
is this the case or am i missing something
Depending on your operator, there could be a max of MB's. So it might be 500 MB/month, but also unlimited internet. With that, you are able to use it without any extra costs.
Is it possible to somewhat put up a wifi network on your phone via some program (WiFi Router is one I think) and connect to it and use it ON your phone?
aaah teething
as far as I know they should not be able to detect it
but I could be mistaken
If the usage is large 500MB/month, carrier might suspect unusual activity. teething is paid service with some carriers.
I have a G1 tethered on T-mobile USA. I have talked to customer service. They said they do not support tethering but that it is not illegal. Their solution is to allow a soft cap of 10gb of data service with their unlimited plan and once you reach the cap they throttle the internet speed down from 3g to 2g levels. Not to horrible. I play all my online games with my G1 connection, Counter Strike Source, Perfect World International, Flyff, and download quite a bit of music and usually only reach about 300mb a day which gives me a full month of service before i reach that cap. And at the start of the new month I get reset.
I´m in the same situation.
I´ve got an unlimited data plan, which covers phone/PDA use, but EXCLUDES using the device as a modem for a PC/Laptop (tethering).
I´ve tethered it ocasionally, and it worked.
My carrier didnt charge me extra, nor blocked. BUT i know the risk exists. I´ve tried to research.
What i read is that carrier COULD tell if you are tethering by traffic analysis (one way is looking the user agent of your web pages request, which identifies yor browser), but that this traffic analysys is not practical, and most carriers dont do it....by now.
So of you tether ocasionally, you are safe.....today, ....until carriers perceive there is a number significant enough to make profits,of people tethering under a data plan intented just for phone use, then they can start charging you.
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I have a G1 tethered on T-mobile USA. I have talked to customer service. They said they do not support tethering but that it is not illegal. Their solution is to allow a soft cap of 10gb of data service with their unlimited plan and once you reach the cap they throttle the internet speed down from 3g to 2g levels. Not to horrible. I play all my online games with my G1 connection, Counter Strike Source, Perfect World International, Flyff, and download quite a bit of music and usually only reach about 300mb a day which gives me a full month of service before i reach that cap. And at the start of the new month I get reset.
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ha nice, well im gonna give it a go anyway and see what happens, its just funny that they specifically advertise to upgrade your account to be able to do this as if they can somehow tell. I dunno what mobile boradband is like in the us but in the uk there advertising it all over the place as if its someting people really need instead of something that is ocasionally useful, apart from in your case its mad how much you do through your phone.
sirgawain123 said:
I´m in the same situation.
I´ve got an unlimited data plan, which covers phone/PDA use, but EXCLUDES using the device as a modem for a PC/Laptop (tethering).
I´ve tethered it ocasionally, and it worked.
My carrier didnt charge me extra, nor blocked. BUT i know the risk exists. I´ve tried to research.
What i read is that carrier COULD tell if you are tethering by traffic analysis (one way is looking the user agent of your web pages request, which identifies yor browser), but that this traffic analysys is not practical, and most carriers dont do it....by now.
So of you tether ocasionally, you are safe.....today, ....until carriers perceive there is a number significant enough to make profits,of people tethering under a data plan intented just for phone use, then they can start charging you.
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thanks for this, if the only thing they can do to check is by the web requests of your browser surely there is a way to pretend to be opera mobile for example which should receive the full web anyway. Anyway as you say I won;t be using it much if at all so if i do fancy it i think ill just take the risk and see what happens worse they can do is charge me a little extra and i may even be able to avoid that by pleeding ignorance
ArtieQ said:
Is it possible to somewhat put up a wifi network on your phone via some program (WiFi Router is one I think) and connect to it and use it ON your phone?
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I don't quite understand this question, you could use the program i mentioned to make your phone into a wifi access point and use its data connection to the internet then anything you like could then connect to it e.g. another phone, psp, ps3 laptop .....
is that what you ment?
since the sipdroid isn't allowing non-paying people to link GV to them for right now, is there another easy option?
I have very bad phone connection at my house so im stuck with the wifi option but every other method I found seems to take like 30 steps and 5 or more programs/accounts to setup.
If you are with Tmobile, you can use Tmobile's app wifi calling. It uses you air time, but works for no cell phone reception.
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I'm with verizon
If you call and complain enough verizon should give you a network repeater that will work for your house. It will use your home internet to provide a better connection.. They might try and charge you for it, but like I said with enough bickering you'll get it for free
Try this, its called "GrooVe IP" :
http://www.appbrain.com/app/groove-ip/com.gvoip
The app costs a few bucks tho, but after you buy it all you use is data, not your cell minutes, and there is no complicated set up at all besides inputting your google voice info.
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If you call and complain enough verizon should give you a network repeater that will work for your house. It will use your home internet to provide a better connection.. They might try and charge you for it, but like I said with enough bickering you'll get it for free
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I tried it. They kept having me reset my antenna radio or suggest buying the extender. They could not give it to me free or for a lower price. And when I threatened to cancel my contract, they just said "Sorry to hear that, I'll connect you over to cancel your contract."
As for the app, thanks for the suggestion. Will check into that.
Guys, I just got a netbook so I really don't need to get online with the phone and I seldom use the data option anyway 'cause the screen is too small for me to see comfortably. Also, I got the Nexus One with Froyo so I could use it as a Hotspot but with the connection I get, it's worthless so since I dont' use it, I thought I'd drop it and save money.
So, my question is, who has the CHEAPEST phone service if you don't need Data? I don't have to have text either (but wouldn't mind a few free ones a month) and I talk very little. As a matter of fact, I usually stay under 500 minutes a month.
Note, GSM please and again, I'm in the Monroe, NC area so something that'll work for me. I had T mobile and coverage was fine and now I have walmart family mobile and it works fine too. ATT was good but Verizon sucked!
Thanks
George
Hello. I want to know if there is a way to use this phone modem in the Computer?
but watch out, I'm not talking about Tethering or using a tether APP like PDANet, etc. I just want to have my Phone modem available in my pc, so I can use it in an application and connect to the internet throught this software. I need it this way because although I can use, it Internet in my PC by several ways (USB tether, Wifi hotspot, etc) I need to use an Aplication to avoid my 3G speed to downgrade after I consume my quota.
You are not gonna be able to bypass the limit. No matter what you do there is no way to use the internet and make it look like your not.
Ok. That's what I think, but a friend of mine claims he has a software that trick your carrier, and I wanna try it. Anway there are ways (with applications and settings) to use the Internet of your mobile phone for free. Those methods need to access to your phone modem.
Since no modem appear in the device manager, just a network device, it is impossible to use those methods with this phone
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You can't get free internet. If your friend knows so much about this special software you would think that your friend would have told you how to conect your phone. But anyways.....install HTC Sync on your pc and it will install the drivers for the phone to be used as a modem.
Agoattamer said:
You can't get free internet. If your friend knows so much about this special software you would think that your friend would have told you how to conect your phone. But anyways.....install HTC Sync on your pc and it will install the drivers for the phone to be used as a modem.
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I do can get free internet, but you have to have the phone modem available and special software and settings. I have HTC Sync installed. The thing is that phone modem doesn't appear, just a network device and I can do nothing with that.
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I dont know what trying to steal from the network providers has to do with android/phone development. You are best off to just either pay for what you use or have your friend that is bragging about stealing internet help you with doing the same.
personally i bet hes lying to you just to make you waste time trying to find a way lol
Darunion said:
I dont know what trying to steal from the network providers has to do with android/phone development. You are best off to just either pay for what you use or have your friend that is bragging about stealing internet help you with doing the same.
personally i bet hes lying to you just to make you waste time trying to find a way lol
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Forget about tricking you carrier about data quota, I was exceptic about it, and I think is not posible. but I am sure there are ways of having free internet in your computer throught your GSM network without paying a cent, at least in my country (A friend of mine connects to the internet like this). The thing is that you have to have a USB 3G modem or you can use your mobile phone, but you need to have your device modem available.
Yeah, its called tethering. But you have to pay for the 3G internet connection through your mobile carrier. Nothing free. Unless you BORROW your nieghbor's wifi.
Agoattamer said:
Yeah, its called tethering. But you have to pay for the 3G internet connection through your mobile carrier. Nothing free.
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OMG. you think you are talking with a little boy. I know what Tethering is. Look my signatute, it is a speedtest result that I got doing Tethering.
ok guys lets let it go. Bottom line is there is no way to do what your asking. No matter what you do, packets will be sent over the data stream and this will be logged. You would have to make all data packet have a size of zero and not hit any towers or the server. This is not going to happen. Every single kb your phone sends out is logged. From the small 1kb used for an mms to the 4mbs used for an app download.
Also there is no way to access the hardware phone modem. To be honest I think your friend is lying to you
zelendel said:
ok guys lets let it go. Bottom line is there is no way to do what your asking. No matter what you do, packets will be sent over the data stream and this will be logged. You would have to make all data packet have a size of zero and not hit any towers or the server. This is not going to happen. Every single kb your phone sends out is logged. From the small 1kb used for an mms to the 4mbs used for an app download.
Also there is no way to access the hardware phone modem. To be honest I think your friend is lying to you
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Ok. About the data plan quota I'm done. I doubt you can avoid that. But regarding free internet in your computer through your GSM network, that is true. But as I far as I can see, There is no way to have this device modem available.
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