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Does anyone here have an eten x500+? I am thinking of buying one but want to make sure it is supported here because I would like to be able to customize it like I can with my Wizard but cant seem to find anything on the forum on it...
This website, obviously, is mainly devoted to HTC devices. With that said, my boyfriend has the x500. He is using the WM6 upgrade for it.
Eten uses a heavily modified ROM on their devices. They have TONS of OEM applications that replace the Microsoft ones in addition to removing a fair bit of WM6 standard items. The device is touchscreen only and I think it sucks because I've yet to use a decent SIP for WM since MS dropped JOT. Also for being touchscreen only it doesn't seem to be as sensitive as my Mogul and you can see the plastic move when you touch the screen.
My bf bought it when it was the thinnest and lightest WM5 device. If you want a thin and light WM device, I recommend a Smartphone. I used to have a Moto Q and would recommend a Smartphone over the glofiish.
dragon_76 said:
This website, obviously, is mainly devoted to HTC devices. With that said, my boyfriend has the x500. He is using the WM6 upgrade for it.
Eten uses a heavily modified ROM on their devices. They have TONS of OEM applications that replace the Microsoft ones in addition to removing a fair bit of WM6 standard items. The device is touchscreen only and I think it sucks because I've yet to use a decent SIP for WM since MS dropped JOT. Also for being touchscreen only it doesn't seem to be as sensitive as my Mogul and you can see the plastic move when you touch the screen.
My bf bought it when it was the thinnest and lightest WM5 device. If you want a thin and light WM device, I recommend a Smartphone. I used to have a Moto Q and would recommend a Smartphone over the glofiish.
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Thank you for your input. I honestly prefer devices with a querty keyboard anyway. Do you know of any VGA devices with a querty keyboard and also a 400mHZ processor like the x500?
PS - Glad to see there are actually women on these forums and its not just a bunch of guy nerds.
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Thank you for your input. I honestly prefer devices with a querty keyboard anyway. Do you know of any VGA devices with a querty keyboard and also a 400mHZ processor like the x500?
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Toshiba G900.
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=review-toshiba-portege-g900-windows-mobile-6-professional-smartphone
(Just the first link off google, personally these guys are tools I thought the difference between smartphone and pocket pc was pretty clear - guess not).
Anyway no HTC device with a VGA screen and qwerty keyboard exists. Unless you consider the HTC Advantage or the old HTC Universal, which I dont imagine you have in mind, ergo, the Toshiba best suits your criteria, but like the Eten is not directly supported by these forums.
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A nice phone overall but the screen is kind of awkward looking... It has the width of a QVGA device but the height of a VGA device. Strange but neat looking. Thanks for the suggestion and the quick reponse.
I take it there arent many other VGA phones and other than the Advantage, none made by HTC. I suppose I will just wait for a while. Eventually they will have to come out with something smililar to the 8525, MDA, or WING that is VGA and still has the querty keyboard.
The screen ratio of WVGA is actually desirable as it is CLOSE to the Golden Ratio of 1.6 (the device ratio is actually 1.7). To read why it's desirable, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio
http://www.engadget.com/2007/12/16/toshibas-portege-g910-g920-go-fcc-followup-to-the-g900-super/
What do you guys think?!
Cheers,
San
This just shows how advanced HTC is compared to the rest of the crowd.
I think that the HTC Universal was a much better offering and imagine it is already over 2 years old. Don't see this Toshiba giving anything more than what the universal did except for a GPS.
The small LCD on the outside cover is good as you many not be needing to open the flip to see the caller ID, something we missed on the universal. However I do not see any call accept / reject buttons on the outside. Would this mean that one will have to open the lid to accept or reject a call. If this is so then this would be a great usability issue.
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This just shows how advanced HTC is compared to the rest of the crowd.
I think that the HTC Universal was a much better offering and imagine it is already over 2 years old. Don't see this Toshiba giving anything more than what the universal did except for a GPS.
The small LCD on the outside cover is good as you many not be needing to open the flip to see the caller ID, something we missed on the universal. However I do not see any call accept / reject buttons on the outside. Would this mean that one will have to open the lid to accept or reject a call. If this is so then this would be a great usability issue.
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Yes, Universal was great - and still is. There isn't anything real from HTC that would be significantly better than the Universal. (The x7500 is a brick and uses outdated technology - PXA-270...; the Kaiser isn't even VGA and is pretty heavy)
All in all, I REALLY hope the new Toshi models will be SIGNIFICANTLY better than the G900.
Looks like it doesnt have a "flip & twist" option! So has to be used always in clamshell mode? Not too bad because i hardly switch my uni to portrait mode...but it sure is nice to have....
:-/
Argh, looks like the universal is sooo perfect, its hard to find another device like this until HTC decide to make a successor for it
Stupid HTC is busy with Google, and all the other commercial successes like the Touch....they hardly care about all us fanboys out here....they're going for the $$$ and tossing our loyalty down the crap hole :-/
San
My b Toshiba hear this and makes it perfect
dreamtheater39 said:
Looks like it doesnt have a "flip & twist" option! So has to be used always in clamshell mode? Not too bad because i hardly switch my uni to portrait mode...but it sure is nice to have....
:-/
Argh, looks like the universal is sooo perfect, its hard to find another device like this until HTC decide to make a successor for it
Stupid HTC is busy with Google, and all the other commercial successes like the Touch....they hardly care about all us fanboys out here....they're going for the $$$ and tossing our loyalty down the crap hole :-/
San
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Exactly my sentinents. HTC seems to slow down with innovation. No matter - I'll play with my Nokia N95 - it's way better than any WinMo device out there, multimedia & gaming-wise. (Not taking the Dell Axim x51v into account, as far as gaming and 3D is concerned.)
dreamtheater39 said:
Looks like it doesnt have a "flip & twist" option! So has to be used always in clamshell mode? Not too bad because i hardly switch my uni to portrait mode...but it sure is nice to have....
:-/
Argh, looks like the universal is sooo perfect, its hard to find another device like this until HTC decide to make a successor for it
Stupid HTC is busy with Google, and all the other commercial successes like the Touch....they hardly care about all us fanboys out here....they're going for the $$$ and tossing our loyalty down the crap hole :-/
San
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i hear ya about a worthy successor to our Uni's.
i'be been on the lookout for an upgrade for years nows (has it reallyonly been 2 years?), and i'm considering this toshi IF i can't get my hands on something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdMww-LFPik
p3ngwin said:
i hear ya about a worthy successor to our Uni's.
i'be been on the lookout for an upgrade for years nows (has it reallyonly been 2 years?), and i'm considering this toshi IF i can't get my hands on something like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdMww-LFPik
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BTW, IMHO, today is the best Universal successor is a HP iPAQ 214 + Nokia N82 / N95 combo
Actually, it does have end/send buttons.
http://www.theunwired.net/media/news/toshiba_portege_g910_half_open2.jpg
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BTW, IMHO, today is the best Universal successor is a HP iPAQ 214 + Nokia N82 / N95 combo
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lol well there are plenty of "bits" of devices that would make up a nice successor. i would rather focus on devices that are ACTUALLY going to be released.]that's why the Toshiba, and Qualcomm's "snapdragon" platforms interest me.
it seams the "OMNI" is vapourware and we'd be waiting years for it to be real, although i invite HTC to suprise us all with a suprise release of the fabled device.
i want:
1)a large screen ,preferably make whole front the screen like iphone and "snapdragon prototype", minimum 3.5" size
2)with MINIMUM VGA res
3)full keyboard, that means WITH numbers, what's this no numbers bull****?
oh, and stop with useless key shortcuts like "OK"-"windows key"-"video call"-"I.E."...etc. they are a waste of keyboard space for apps hat can have ON SCREEN SHORTCUTS! no need for hardware buttons.
since when are these apps more important than numbers?
(can you imagine if your desktop PC keyboard had precious little space on the keyboard and the maker decided to omit numbers and make shortcut keys for these kind of apps instead?)
4)GPS
5) 128megs ram, minimum.
6)between 3 and 5 megapixel camera:
(anything else is wasted and doesn't get better picture quality unless the optics are equally good.so make it 3-5 MP and then invest the rest into the optics and CMOS sensor quality)
7)a decent chip/chipset driving the device.
so that it is responsive in desktop apps like today screen, tom tom, web browsing, also acceleration for java, jpeg, camera, etc...all the things HTC promised with Qualcomm msm7X00 chipset.
the O2 XDA Flame has Nvidia GoForce5500 chip and doesn't use it either except for camera stills, not even the video recording/playing uses it let alone accelerating the rest of the device in any way.
my friend has the Flame and my Uni records/plays better movies!
that's it because
I just purchased an HTC Touch Pro and have some observations about it compared to my Touch Cruise which I've used with good success for over 6 months.
The TP screen is slightly smaller -- probably evident if I'd looked at the specs more closely but I was a bit surprised to have them side by side and realize this. The VGA on the TP overcomes any loss in screen area -- the display is quite clear and the lettering crisp. Since it's the same as the Diamond this is probably "old news" for most.
The TP is narrower and slightly shorter than the TC. Surprisingly, its added thickness due to the keyboard is hardly noticeable.
Have to admit I'm a bit disappointed by the TF3D compared to my TC -- perhaps it's just my normal usage pattern (I've always been comfortable with a stylus and use a combination stylus/pen/pencil) since I regularly use my finger/finger nail for many things on my TC with good success. The TF3D is slick and the graphics are nice -- love the weather display. But I'm considering setting it up like my TC w/o the TF3D because I find there are limitations that don't match what I'm used to with Wisbar/PocketBreeze/PocketWeather. I need to practice with the TF3D some more to ensure it's not just my unfamiliarity with it since its finger commands are far more comprehensive than the TC capabilities.
There is no question in my mind that HTC has done a great job of packaging and presenting this jewel. Although in many ways it's similar to the TC, it just seems more slick and "refined" -- comfortable to hold and use -- the keyboard is really good -- a worthy competitor to the iphone IMHO.
But..... is the ~$1K price worth what I "gain" over the TC -- I'm not yet convinced it is.
someone offered me a touch pro... i checked out the diamond, loved it and decided the i'd buy the touch pro since the only thing i didn't like about the diamond is the fact that it doesn't have a MicroSD slot. to be honest, i'd prefer a Diamond.. but the lack of memory slot is such a ****ed up business that i decided that even tho the TP is 50g heavier, i'd rather have it than have the diamond
Are you buying an actual Touch Pro or one of the gimped service provider versions? I'd go with 100% genuinely tasty HTC branded version.
Anywhoo, as you pointed out, you can always change the UI, and the device is significantly more powerful than the TC.
By the way, if you don't want your TC, i'll take it off your hands for exactly free.
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Are you buying an actual Touch Pro or one of the gimped service provider versions? I'd go with 100% genuinely tasty HTC branded version.
Anywhoo, as you pointed out, you can always change the UI, and the device is significantly more powerful than the TC.
By the way, if you don't want your TC, i'll take it off your hands for exactly free.
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what a great offer. i'd go for it
fzzyrn said:
Are you buying an actual Touch Pro or one of the gimped service provider versions? I'd go with 100% genuinely tasty HTC branded version.
Anywhoo, as you pointed out, you can always change the UI, and the device is significantly more powerful than the TC.
By the way, if you don't want your TC, i'll take it off your hands for exactly free.
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Yes it's the HTC UK version -- everything as described in numerous reviews -- I think my challenge is to learn TF3D. Once I get used to it I'll feel more comfortable with the overall interface. I'm using my TC and TP side by side right now -- while it's true the TP is more powerful (and a very nice UI) it holds its own.
I wish that the pro/diamond "dial" thing ont he dpad did the same things that the cruise one does, i can't get enough of that thing. so usefull. I didn't see in the specs that the touch pro had a smaller screen. Thought it was 2.8, like every other screen/
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I didn't see in the specs that the touch pro had a smaller screen. Thought it was 2.8, like every other screen/
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Umm, not sure what spec you looking at but HTCs website says both are 2.8
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Umm, not sure what spec you looking at but HTCs website says both are 2.8
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Why are you quoting me? Read the original post.
appologise, miss read it.
I have been looking at the TC mainly because I am not going to drop 1K on it. Also the fact that the diamond dose not has a card slot is just plain stupid. I am torn between the TC & the Kaiser. For the most part they both have the same specs. I currently have the Hermes & do not use the slide out much. So, missing it wouldn't be a big deal. Any thoughts on which is the better device?
brucewilson:
does this post means to say that TP and TC are physically almost the same? in specification, for me, TP should have a lot more power compared to TC (in both RAM and ROM size, don't remember what CPU speed is). shouldn't it be a lot faster in executing whatever you tell it to do? sorry if my question sounds dumb, I just used my TC for exactly 7 days when it broke (it just decide to break and all I do is using it as GPS to get around different states) and I just got it back from HTC repair yesterday. so I'm ready to trade it up with something more powerful and is not as easy to break. was looking at Kaiser but for some reason doesn't find much appeal in it, Raphael is more attractive, probably the glossy look and the keyboard?
The Touch Pro has a Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 processor MHz where the Cruise only has a 400 MHz processor. The Touch Pro also has double the memory.
I think the Touch Pro is perfect. strong graphics, strong CPU, lots of memory, MSD slot.. and all those new features someone found using the front of the device
I am looking to replace my Trinity and right now the iPhone is the top contender (I am with AT&T anyway.)
But I'd love to keep the flexibility I get from WM, and have finally made my Trinity rock solid (it hasn't crashed in weeks
The big thing for me is the screen, I like 3.5 and I like the resolution - the Omnia just doesn't look as good to me, plus its screen is smaller.
Is HTC, or someone else, coming out with something new, soon, which will have the screen, the memory (16gb is good) and is also a decent looking phone?
Anyone know?
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Silently support the landlord, we support, support for the forum
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Huh?????????
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Uh wtf?
Anyways. Back on topic. WAIT FOR THE AT&T TOUCH PRO. Nuff said.
Silly wabbit! iPhones are for kids.... Any anyone else without enough brain matter to operate a WM device.
If there is too much time on your contract to bail, I'd say wait for the Touch!
Unfortunately, the Touch Pro only has a 2.8" screen, which is a big disadvantage, compared to the 3.5" screen on the iPhone.
I am looking for at least 3.5".
(and since I had my Wizard, I've decided that slider keyboards are useless to me.)
For a screen that size you will need something like a Sedna.
I personally just got the I900. I had an IPhone for a month and I definitely prefer the Omnia I900. However it only has a 3.2" screen and you want 3.5".
I would have gotten a Sedna as I wanted a bigger screen, but at the last minute I got an Omnia and I am really happy with it.
The Touch Pro looks nice, that would probably be my second choice. The omnia has the best on screen keyboard I have seen so far. It not particularly special in any way other than the fact that it works well in Portrait and in landscape with the autmatic rotate function I can rapidly get precise, fast two thumb typing going by just rotating the phone (assuming I have two hands free.)
I have iTouch and have to say that I love it`s touch-screen accuracy, much better than in wm-phones with 2.8" screen, it is just so tiny compared to 3.5" screen.. I usualy do wlan with wmwifirouter and browse net using iTouch since it has bigger resolution and 3.5" screen which doesn`t need stylus + Safari is fast !
One thing what I don`t understand is this 2.8" Wmphonemania, why are they not making 3.5" screens on them ? And 3.2mp cameras are oldish, I love N95 5mp camera, it just takes so good shots, I am jealous :>
But either Symbian or iPhone`s OS, cannot beat WinMo as an operating system :X
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Unfortunately, the Touch Pro only has a 2.8" screen, which is a big disadvantage, compared to the 3.5" screen on the iPhone.
I am looking for at least 3.5".
(and since I had my Wizard, I've decided that slider keyboards are useless to me.)
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like for sex size doen't matter... the real problem is: what will be your use of your next phone...
i have tried both one week (iPhone3g and diamond) and i goes diamond because iPhone is too much limited for my use... try both and see what will be your's
How about the Dream?
I am amazed that noone mentioned the HTC Dream. The first Android phone to hit the market will be released on October 13th. Check it out.
Anything Comparable to the iPhone Coming Out On the WM Side? (Quote)
Just surf this forum and you will find a lot of nice options:
HTC G1
HTC HD
etc...
This was exactly the question I was working on for a number of months. Although I also added in, "And won't cost me an arm and a leg".
It finally came down to the Daxian T32/x999+ (Chinese iPhone-ish clone) and the HTC Blue Angel. If the T32 had some buttons that could be used in gaming like the HTC I would've gone with that I think, but I got the HTC Blue Angel instead and it's great.
Of course this is my first PDA, so maybe I'm easily impressed.
Anything else out there either costs WAY too much or has a much smaller screen, or even both. It's too bad nobody is taking the Blue Angel and reworking it with today's technology to make it sleeker and better. Great little machine so far!
http://gizmodo.com/5047830/htc-touch-hd-looks-big-and-beautiful
How about this?
I think it's called HTC Touch HD. Don't know if HD stands for High Definition.
Anyway, this phone for sure has your requirement of 3.5 screen.
I have been very happy with the HTC Universal over the last 5 years.
Unfortunately it is beginning to get a little loose and worn.
I have already replaced the screen on the poor thing after one accident.
Could someone help with advice on a suitable upgrade? I don't appear to see one on the HTC website which fits my likes (or any on other sites).
I have been looking through the HTC website, and thought the Athena/x7500 would be suitable, but then realised that this appears to be EOL already.
Items I like on the Universal, is the hi-res 640x480 screen. Better would be nice. It appears to be ~4" or so
I like the size of the keys on the keyboard, it is just about right for me. (it is a must, to be able to hide the keyboard). I like the way that the keys are rounded, and I can use it without light. Unfortunately, I do not like the way that the keyboard can be slid in on the HTC touch pro, I think I will hit the top screen with my fingers?
I like the way that I can attach a bluetooth GPS device and use it as a navigator for the car.
Quad band would be extremely useful, although I have an alternative quad-band phone for when it is required, it would be very useful to have it in the main phone.
Internet browser is a must (but is there any phone nowadays which doesn't have one?). Hi-speed internet is not a requirement.
Touchscreen is a must. (as is a stylus hide-hole)
I doubt it makes any real difference, but I am currently on T-Mobile UK.
An SD slot (or CF alternatively), would be good for storage. It would be useful if the phone had Excel and Word, or compatibles, as I do often use these.
Thanks in advance,
A good question!
I have Universal also and have found very hard to get a real replacement for great Uni!
I have now Rhodium, which to my opinion is the closer to an upgrade but I have to be honest there are some things still miss...
Better keyboard (Uni has the best hardware keyboard to this date)
VGA
From factor (unbeatable)
But we have to face the fact that HTC made Universal so good, so advanced to it´s time that hardly they will make something on the same line (I really hope I´m wrong)
Rhodium can make you feel good in the meantime
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But we have to face the fact that HTC made Universal so good, so advanced to it´s time that hardly they will make something on the same line (I really hope I´m wrong)
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Thanks for the response. I suppose i can take some solace that there are others that think the same!
Of course!
We are several people thinking that way, just have a look on Universal section and you´ll see how in love members are with great Uni!