Has anyone already bought the new version (or older version) from this and what are your findings???
Thanx
I have it, so far I like it, works well with giving an accurate projection of minutes to be used, and what I've used etc.
zabes64 said:
I have it, so far I like it, works well with giving an accurate projection of minutes to be used, and what I've used etc.
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I agree with zabes64, just wanted to add it also shows the split between peak and off peak minutes, really good for those with unlimited evenings\weekends and low peak minutes.
Just my 2 cents worth. It's a great program with perfect customer service (user error no fault of the software). I never pay attention of my time until I get my bill at the end of the month - now I can keep updated through the month and see what the future holds.
I also have purchased this software although I dont like the fact that you cant tell it that you dont have any free PEAK mins it always defaults to 10 mins.
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I also have purchased this software although I dont like the fact that you cant tell it that you dont have any free PEAK mins it always defaults to 10 mins.
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That is a big disadvantage! I also have no Peak minutes, just fixed rate!! Is this changeable in any way???
haptiClock vibrates you the time (haptic feedback) if you shake/bump/tap your phone. It works when your screen is off, doesn't use much battery. The pattern to decipher the time from the pulses is simple to learn.
Great for checking the time on the sly, or when you can't pull your phone out.
Free version for trial then limited, and then paid for full version. Send me feedback, I want to make this a useful app! QR code at ... well as a total newb here I can't post links even a barcode, but lookitup!
-Phil
Permission: Prevent phone from sleeping
Makes me very nervous about battery life.
Otherwise, very interesting idea, and I'll check it out.
EDIT: I'm getting constant force-closes just reading the tutorial. Galaxy S phone (Android 2.1)
"I'm getting constant force-closes just reading the tutorial. Galaxy S phone (Android 2.1) "
Wow thanks for the info, I'll look into it... been tested on Droid, Droid X, Nexus
edit:<strike>The battery use isn't as bad as I thought it would be</strike>!
apparently it is using more juice than I had seen during beta testing
Android is really challenging- lots of hardware (IMO this is a good thing) and versions make testing unreliable...
Version 1.1 just uploaded should fix problem Izkata had... THANKS FOR THE INFO!
Just a quick test this morning, and it does appear to be fixed.
I'll test it more thoroughly later today.
I just downloaded the free version of this and it looks really promising.
While the screen was on and the app still open it worked perfectly, but when I turned the screen off and activated it again, it did hours fine and the rounded min fine, but the 2nd activation didn't work.
OK, noted ADeadlySpoon... thanks.
There is a time window to second tap to get the exact minutes, it's 10 seconds, you can also just go into "one tap" mode and time to exact minute every time. Still, I'll try to re-create your issue.
Wont work if screen is off.. on my EVO
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Wont work if screen is off.. on my EVO
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Same with Desire HD which makes it useless for me atm.
But it's a nice App, hope this will work soon.
Okay, so - I left it running with the screen off and phone unused for about an hour and a half, to check the battery usage.
(Phone: Samsung Captivate (Galaxy S on ATT))
Normally, on average, I lose just under 1% per hour when the phone is not in use. With haptiClock active, I lost right around 1% per 10 minutes, while the phone was not in use. So the drop isn't as bad as I was expecting (yay!), but it's not something I'd leave on all the time, either.
No force-closes, ether, so the fix earlier seems to have fixed it entirely.
I have a habit of discreet time-checking, so this'll be great. Best trigger for me seems to be about 13 or 14 - juuust enough that I don't have to whack my phone/make an obvious movement to trigger it.
I have to change the language on the help, because when it did appear in my battery use stats it was always about the same as Cell Standby, which didn't seem to make sense, I should have grabbed Izkata's app (and will now) to check battery usage. It is important to turn off when you don't anticipate needing it.
On the Desire HD & EVO, I have no idea why ATM, but will look into it over the next 24hrs. I did test it on an HTC myTouch 3G and it worked.
If either of you get a chance, could you post OS version / API level and any mods?
Thanks for checking it out.
-Phil
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I have to change the language on the help, because when it did appear in my battery use stats it was always about the same as Cell Standby, which didn't seem to make sense, I should have grabbed Izkata's app (and will now) to check battery usage. It is important to turn off when you don't anticipate needing it.
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Yey, thanks
It's not the best thing for measuring usage like this, though. To get the numbers in my previous post, I just recorded the percent before and after, and manually divided. 'Tho you can see in the History graph when it drops faster, so that helps.
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If either of you get a chance, could you post OS version / API level and any mods?
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Android 2.1-update1 / API 7, rooted, but with no mods.
When screen is on, it works alright. But when screen turned off, no response from the app. Great idea though. I'm using a wildfire btw..
To those of you for whom the app doesn't work when the screen is off, this is an Android bug affecting certain phones. I believe it is a problem (be it a feature whereby the manufacturer is trying improve battery usage profile, or a bug) with the firmware. The HTC phones with Sense UI seem to be among the more commonly afflicted devices.
I remember seeing this bug report I started working on the app:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3708
BUT by the time it was getting close to done, my impression was that this had basically been fixed, and I didn't mention it anywhere in the release, none of the phones I tested on had this problem.
Now, there is another newer Android bug report regarding this issue, please STAR it (upper left of page)
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11028
and hopefully we will see more rapid resolution of this issue, I think the OS isn't the problem, but perhaps manufacturer firmware updates could help resolve it.
Please don't leave negative comments on the Market if the app doesn't work with the screen off. Because of users doing this (which I should have seen coming) my star rating is started to go down. I have included language on the Market entry which should prevent people from giving the app a low rating solely because of this issue.
Lastly, there is a workaround of sorts for this which will fix the problem on some phones. I will implement it, but am going to proceed very cautiously, because last thing I want to do is break the app for users for whom it is currently functioning appropriately.
As such, I would really appreciate it if people who are experiencing this issue would beta test a new release with the workaround prior to my releasing it on the market.
So drummer2780,Testuser_01,thunderskain, ADeadlySpoon(?) ... if any of you would be so kind as to receive an APK file from me for testing on your device, in return I'll try to somehow get you the full version gratis of course (how we'll do that I'm not sure as I don't want an APK with licensing disabled floating around out there!, perhaps you can buy it from the Market and I'll refund the payment)
Izkata, for your help I'd like to do the same (give you free version) so if you buy it I will refund. I don't *think* a refund will invalidate the licensing, but I'm not sure, it is unclear from the Google distribution agreement language.
Thanks for checking out my app, I'm hoping people are finding it useful!
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Best trigger for me seems to be about 13 or 14 - juuust enough that I don't have to whack my phone/make an obvious movement to trigger it.
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Since you are using it at a pretty sensitive setting:
Go to settings->overall sensitivity and select "Make more sensitive" and you'll find you can be a little more in the middle of the range and will have better precision for where you'd like the trigger to be, of course set it back if you want to use it and you're being more active.
-Phil
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So drummer2780,Testuser_01,thunderskain, ADeadlySpoon(?) ... if any of you would be so kind as to receive an APK file from me for testing on your device, in return I'll try to somehow get you the full version gratis of course (how we'll do that I'm not sure as I don't want an APK with licensing disabled floating around out there!, perhaps you can buy it from the Market and I'll refund the payment)
Izkata, for your help I'd like to do the same (give you free version) so if you buy it I will refund. I don't *think* a refund will invalidate the licensing, but I'm not sure, it is unclear from the Google distribution agreement language.
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Since we both have a paid version of an app out, we could just do a "trade" and buy each others' apps, assuming you haven't already. The difference in pricing is small enough that I wouldn't really worry about it. Or we could try out the refund idea, then have experience to advise others in the future (I haven't bought haptiClock yet, and might not for a while - various stuff going on IRL)
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Go to settings->overall sensitivity and select "Make more sensitive" and you'll find you can be a little more in the middle of the range and will have better precision for where you'd like the trigger to be, of course set it back if you want to use it and you're being more active.
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I'll take another look at the setting(s) eventually, and try and remember to post my comparisons in this thread once I do. (However, I'm starting a new job this week and don't want to mess with stuff/might not have time to mess with stuff until next weekend)
Great app! I've been looking for an app that did this for a really long time.
I was thinking though. The vibrate system's a little confusing, and I don't really need to know the exact time. Usually I only need to know it to the closest 15 minutes. Perhaps you could set toggles for the 10/15 minute vibe, the 5 minute vibe, and the 1 minute vibe?
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Uually I only need to know it to the closest 15 minutes. Perhaps you could set toggles for the 10/15 minute vibe, the 5 minute vibe, and the 1 minute vibe?
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There is a setting which allows you to only receive the 10/15 vibe (at least it requires an add'l tap to get the exact minute)... but I do like your idea of being able to specifically set where to stop. It would be a fairly extensive task for me to implement, as I basically have it set up to do just to the minute, or require add'l tap. We'll see how it goes, I can't say I'm going to be spending a bunch more time on this thing unless it attracts more users.
Thanks for the feedback!
Doesn't work with the screen off on the dell streak running dj steves 1.6.0 froyo ROM. Would definetly be interested in buying when (if) it can.
Well, it looks like all workarounds I've tried for phones which don't respond to the sensor when the screen is off (in standby mode) have failed. This is likely a firmware issue which ought to be addressed by the manufacturer. The code should run the same on all devices, this is the point of Android!
Given that it works on most phones, it is a "bug" or "defect".
Please take a moment to star the issue at code.google:
Issue 11028
Also, contact your phones manufacturer rolleyes: HTC) regarding this issue.
I think there are lots of possibilities here and hopefully it will get fixed because there are similar apps I'm creating which rely on the accelerometer working in standby as I've implemented in haptiClock.
Thanks
Phil
Hi,
with the new market, the refund window is reduced to 15 minutes. Now, I do not have the new market yet - do I still have the old 24 hrs? I think I read that somewhere, but can't really believe it...
I think everyone now has the new 15 minute return period, I think it is to do with Google's policy rather than the software.
This is from the android help: http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=134336
I tried, in the purchase confirmation mail the new refund window of 15min is stated.
Would have been kind a strange
these games that you have to download additional data need to have a longer trial period... what a rip.
Yeah, it f***s up the rating of the games too - apart from the users feeling ripped off...
I don't understand how you can reduce the refund window to just 15 minutes. 24hrs was very generous, and abused by some who would just finish the game in that time and refund it, but 15 mins is far too less to determine if an app is worth the money - even without additional data download etc. impeding immediate usage.
Reviews anyone? Jesus I've bought apps I no longer want...I think I'm going to go complain for my $3 back...
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ome one said I should post this on a mainstream board, so it will help out others too, I am too lazy to edit the some things so please pretend that I am refering to JUST YOUR PHONE. This basically apply's to every ones phone. Even the iphone. so please ignore droid turbo and copy and paste your phone name. take everything with a grain of salt. I refuse to take any one seriously if you fail to see that you missed the point of my thread. here it comes (copy and paste lol desu).
So I pick up my Droid Trubo (only for the specs) and I noticed that Verizon is claiming that you can get a whole 48 hours off your phone with out having to charge your phone within those 48 hours. makes me giggle but the battery is a 3900mAh battery. Pretty sweet, but inevitably on day one release I have seen articles and posts of people claiming that they only get no less then 9-12 hours on there turbo before they have to charge..... (Not claiming I know all there is to phones) but I had a feeling that any one complaining about the battery on there phone probably (in fact i am 110% sure) that they have no idea what exactly takes up power usage on there phone. I charge my phone up to about 100 percent, I used it consistently watching you tube video's web browsing listening to music, all that jazz, you name it and I probably did it. After a whole 25 hours(in counting) my phone sat at a woping 67% battery charge. Verizon held up there part of the bargain and this is by no means them lieing to us. So I am going to start listing off on why your phone literally dies after only 5 hours.
1.Brightness: Thats rite folks, turning your brightness to the max is a very sexy way to speed up the process of killing your battery, I highly recommend that you simply set the brightness to automatic and you should be set. Brightness kills your battery, but this is not the only thing that you probably goofed in, lets read on.
1.Wallpaper: You know, I kinda don't consider this one to be much of a big deal, but it is true non the less(still kinda not that big of deal) but have LIVE wallpaper does consume much more power vs having just a normal wallpaper background.
3. Mother fu**ing gps/location : So I noticed that every one and there grandmother, turns on the GPS/location(well, more like you hit yes to turn it on and forgot about it sense) setting on there device for Google map, or maybe you want your friends to know where your making yourself look lost with selfie picks of Facebook or instagram. Now let me tell you having the gps setting to detect your location or use it on google maps KILLS YOUR BATTERY faster then you can say "How do i get to the control panel?". Generally on your average phone your looking at (if your lucky) a solid 4-6 hours before you have to charge your phone because you have this on all the time(and probably everything else I list aswell). The GPS tracking system is always on REGARDLESS if you are or not using google maps, facebook, instagram etc. I can imagine that with turbo you would only survive for a good 10 hours before you have to charge your phone again. Make sure you go into your phone setting and turn of gps location and only use it when you need it at that time.
Mobile and Wifi usage: Now, Of course this takes up power, but I always get a kick out of watching every one have there wifi AND there mobile data active at the same time. This is very effective for killing your phone sooner, rather then later. Dont get me wrong your phone is either going to use one or the other, but its still outputting power to keep a connection, VS having it actually turned off, and having it simply notify you that there is a connection available.
Now Maybe alot of you are like "this guy does not know what he's talking about I have this on all the time and I still only get 10 hours". If you are thinking this, I recommend you take the moment to stand up take 2 steps back and punch yourself in the stomach, when your able to breath come back and go through the steps in making sure that your phone does not have all these setting turn on at ones.
Ya, ultimately this is the bread and butter list that kills peoples battery's that I see all the time (dont play yourself, you know who you are) . So I guess I will go just a little more in-depth on how I get an easy 48 hours on the phone with no sweat.
Ultimately, when I am at my house, I keep my wifi data on, with my brightness set to auto. As far as Droids turbo goes, this will be easy peasy for your phone to get to the whole day, go ahead and watch some you-tube videos, hell take a bunch of pictures while your at it, (fun fact, your video recorder is pretty niffty for draining battery) I only turn my gps location on when I need to get from point A to Point B and always remember to turn it of after I am done using it.
I want to talk about 1 more technical thing before I Wrap this up, I notice that some people say "I checked my battery today and it says that this app took up 30% of my power! WTF? I disabled it and removed it). you guys mite want to pay better attention to the battery, for example, my phone lost about a good 5% after like 1-2 hours of you-tube or something, when I looked at the battery status rite from the get go, it told me that you tube took 70% of my power usage. but mind you, your phone is telling you it took up 70% of power in the 5% battery period. some people don't pay close attention to these details so when they go on there battery status at the end of the day they do back-flips for days on the fact that there app or (my favorite) screen took up so much power on there phones.
Ya my guide is not the best, just posting this out there to hopefully get this concept through to some people. I am just your average power user, with a nice phone, and a ton of trig homework to catch up on, feel free to ask me any question, I mite go and post this in the general/Q & A threads.
Just got done proof reading, If things are still terrible, I recommend you kill it with fire, and hyperventilate until your amazon prime order of frozen yogurt arrives at the back of your basement step.
UPDATE: Ok, just so I stop getting bombarded with these pointless reply's (who am I kidding some one is still gonna call me a dumbass am I rite?) this is what I expect for you guys to get out of this thread, I will use myself in this example).
ME : let's see so I turned off all my features on the phone (or for what ever reason some of you like to call it a dumb phone). Now everything is OFF.
- I am sitting down and I want to shoot a text or make a phone call to my friend. I do just that that and......OH SNAP! I don't need my mobile 4g lte to be turned on if all I am doing is sending/receiving text messages/phone calls. Sweet! BUT WAIT, I want to go on SPACE-BOOK AND want to know when people post comments on my selfies! Then I will simply keep my mobile data on 24/7(when I am at home switch to my wifi and turn off mobile) so I can retrieve those oh so important selfie updates! I know keeping mobile data on at all times will drain my batter faster then having it off, but for just posting comments on space-book, or doing web serfing that should be of no problem ESPECIALLY if you have the turbo. So flick the mobile data on if you want to know whats going on in your twitter or what have you. I don't twitter, space-book, instagram or any of that Personally, I only turn on mobile data when I need to web browse (I do heavy web browsing myself, but that wont be too much battery drain.). Thats just me. Pick your options and learn what takes up more power when you do it. Learn what you need to do to accomplish these goals through out the day because lets face it people, selfies make the world go round. I mean if you go to the gym and work out for 2 hours but did not take a selfie, then it does not count. every one know that! (to keep myself sain, you will notice I will constantly be mis pronouncing names and I will be using Selfies as a general term for "those people" that like to take pictures of everything. I have to point this out because some one will say "I dont just take selfies I take "insert stupid category here" with my phone! YES because I am sure what ever pictures you take is of that much different from selfies!")
2. Alrgiht! So I leave my mobile data on all the time go web serfing and I take selfies of myself looking lost in towns. No problem for the droid turbo! but you know what? I also want to watch a bunch of video's! whatching video's on your phone will of course drain the battery faster (stack that on with user number 1.) though it does take away more power from your phone its not that bad if the video is actually on your phone, what's that? you want to go to youtube and watch 720 or 1080p cat video's. Thats gonna cost more resources, your going to need your phone to output its data connection to start STREAMING 720 or 1080p cat video's! Thats pretty demanding for anyphone regardless. If you do it here and there through out the day, you will lose power faster, but if you stream 720p cat video's all day, then your turbo probably wont survive the 24 hour mark. (2 hours streaming cat videos and 2 girls one cup is not going to destroy your phone but it will require a nice chunk of your battery non the less).
3. HOLD ON NOW, I need people to know where I am at 24/7 so lets flick on that locations app! once again this will stack on to your demanding needs of power, 24/7 mobile data turn on with your 2 hours of streaming 720p cat video's and 2 girls 1 cup, with selfies (lets not forget your camera and video record do tend to take up power giving you those true HD pictures. Now you got your phone Twerking to constantly feed your location to your app. Then it costs even more power when you use it.
4. I also want max screen brightness and my Bluetooth (though bluetooth is not so bad, just depends how you use it) for my headphones....I also want to have high frequency mode turned on while im at it too so I can use gps!.....with a LIVE wallpaper!
Do you guys see where I am getting at with all this? you need to treat your phone like a car. you need to know what features take up how much power and how long you plan to keep them on. I am not telling you, to turn EVERYTHING OFF and boom 48 hours. I am telling you that your phone has a **** ton of power and its up to you to learn what apps and what features drain how much power and how fast and how long do you plann to use it? You may think its so small or it does not take that much power but the more you stack things on to your phone the more power its going to need. You need to think about it like if it was yourself. If I told you to walk for one mile you would totally (I hope) be fine doing it no sweat, but what If i told you to RUN for one mile your body is going to take way more energy to make you run at a descent pace vs walking. I really do hope (in my opinion) my fun explanation helps you guys understand the concept's of phone power usage. Over time if your like me and a few other power users I know, you will have absolutely no problems what so ever keeping your phone alive, because we piratically know when its going to die and when we will need to charge. comes with experience.
Final note: just remember, if you think this is stupid or all this is a waist of time, then I recommend punching yourself in the stomach and simply waiting for that amazon prime order of frozen yogurt to arrive at your door step. that's all I got to say, Im gonna go through and proof read this so it does not sound too dumb (i gotta get back to that trig homework). I need to emphasize though, if your gonna be naive and not see the point of my thread, just punch you self in the stomach and take a selfie saying you just got done working out, it works EVERY TIME, I promise!
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Thank you for these info..
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Thank you for these info..
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