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Clarification of ROM Upgrading

Hi,
I am expecting my German XDA in the mail in the next few days.
I have been reading this forum for the past 2 weeks, and have tried to wade through all the great advice to educate myself on ROM upgrading issues. I would like to clarify that I understand this properly.
As I understand, in order to render my new XDA "O2-free" and customizable, not to mention english, I need to install a new ROM - probably the latest Imate ROM or maybe the PDAMobiz ROM.
Before I do this, should I Unlock the CID? From my reding, this will allow me to the install any ROM.
Is this an accurate understanding of everything involved?
Are there other better options to achieve my goal of a non-branded non-operator specific Jamin/Neo?
Is there a way to save my original German O2 ROM if it became necessary to return the unit for service?
I hope people do not object to thsi post. I know that it can be irritating when newbies post on topics which have already been discussed thoroughly. I have spent at least 2 weeks trying to educate myself on the procedures, and really would just like if some knowledgeable contributor could reassure me that I have not missed something obviuos.
Thanks,
Ronan

Check here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Prophet_Upgrades
I'm still updating the page, but its working fine for my dutch s200 (now english dopod rom)

Hi,
I tried to follow the steps as outlined, but when I get to teh first soft reset, the device locks, and I can do nothing with it!
Please tell me how to fix it. Can I use bootloader?
How?
Thanks,
Ronan

Crisis averted!
Got into bootloader and installed the dopod rom.
Ro

Dear Ro,
have you upgrated your PDA?
Can you write your procedure?
Best regards
Daniele

please, read this topic and tell me what you think about it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54878

I entered bootloader then used the Dopod ROM with the modified romupdateutility.
I have not tried anything else.
Does anyone know of a solution for us SPL 2.15.0001 users? We seem to be very restricted in options.
Ro

Please, can you write the links where it is possible to download this rom and all the necessary files?

Is there a way to save my original German O2 ROM if it became necessary to return the unit for service?
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Here u get the official one from O2: http://www.o2online.de/o2/kunden/technikundeinst/exclusive/xda/xdaneo/index.html?nidx=1
I just upgradet to the new dopod wwe one. No probs at all with my XDA Neo. Its just 5 days old, so no CDI-unlockin needed Then I also took the O2 bootscreen again, and it works...still :wink:

Is there a way to save my original German O2 ROM if it became necessary to return the unit for service?
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Here u get the official one from O2: http://www.o2online.de/o2/kunden/technikundeinst/exclusive/xda/xdaneo/index.html?nidx=1
I just upgradet to the new dopod wwe one. No probs at all with my XDA Neo. Its just 5 days old, so no CDI-unlockin needed Then I also took the O2 bootscreen again, and it works...still :wink:

Thanks dears,
I have updated it with Dopod rom......but now....how can I update to I-mate JAMin (italian) rom?
Does someone have an Idea to how do it?
Thanks, thanks, thanks
Daniele

Yes, you have to go to ftp.clubimate.com there you can find the JAMin ROM's and also you can choose the language you want.
As you know, first, you must CID unlock, then you can download your favorite ROM. Tell us your opinon after install it.

Flash ROM for Prophet

Hello people.
Yesterday i tried to upgrade my i-mate JAMin to WM6 but i couldn't do it.
anyway, because i couldn't upgrade it to WM6, after i upgrade to 2.40 WWE when i arrived at home i've tryed to upgrade to 2.13_Portuguese_ROM...
Here was when the problem started.
When updrade started, at 1% the problem ocurred... message ERROR.
From what i've read I need a flash ROM, I'm desperate...
Can any one help to find the flash ROM and how to recover my PPC?
Best Regards
Thank's in advance.
(Faria, ajuda-me! sei que podes fazê-lo nem que seja orientando-me em português...)

where did you get 2.40 WWE
you need No Vindor ID to install the ROM
please give your IPL SPL (G3 or G4), what error message?
but your problem can be solve I'm sure, don't do anything you don't know what it is
ask before every step !!!!!!ok

Again, would people please read through the forum carefully before starting a new thread and ask the same questions over and over again. It is not that I am mean (just getting old), because any new thread will take time to read. Why not the person who need answer to read first and save other people's time. I found this forum contains so much information that most problems people generally ask are well covered one way or the other.

you may right, but human is talking here, we are not machines, human did mistakes and sometimes even if read it new people hard to get it, they need it step by step
if you don't want to help please don't reply, leave it a lone and it will go to the end with no replies
I've seen a lot of replies like yours witch they are not nice I think they have to be deleted
sorry for beeing rude, but we are human

paradis_pal said:
where did you get 2.40 WWE
you need No Vindor ID to install the ROM
please give your IPL SPL (G3 or G4), what error message?
but your problem can be solve I'm sure, don't do anything you don't know what it is
ask before every step !!!!!!ok
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Hello paradis, and everyone else.
Thank you for you quick reply and support.
Starting to answering your questions:
- My i-mate is G3
-  ERROR [320~328] : INVALID COMMAND
These errors seldom occur. However, if one of these errors occur, it could not be recovered and the device had to be sent back to the customer service center. In this case, you have to flash a new ROM code.
About the ROM 2.40..., i'm confused and since i can't read my i-mate i don't know the correct version but it was downloaded here in this forum.
Regards

reinstall the 2.20.7.37 wwe using the NO VINDOR ID NVID
look for RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID.exe you can find it here
then unlock CID see the WIKI how to
and then install any ROM you want

What is you SPL Version?

NetrunnerAT said:
What is you SPL Version?
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this not SPL problem
the arror at 1% is becasue of changing the langauge he just need NO VINDOR ID
that is all
and I want him to unlock CID, please do my steps

If he have SPL 3.08 -> CID Unlock doesnt work -> Device report wrong DeviceID and CID ^_^

paradis_pal said:
reinstall the 2.20.7.37 wwe using the NO VINDOR ID NVID
look for RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID.exe you can find it here
then unlock CID see the WIKI how to
and then install any ROM you want
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Thank's paradis_pal
My i-mate came back to live, tank you so much.
I fallowed your instructions and the problem was solved.
Best Regards.

As i said, my i-mate is biack to life.
I try to unlock CID, but the link ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Prophet/pdamobiz.com_downgrade_and_unlockcid.rar is not working.
Can any one put it on working?

NetrunnerAT said:
If he have SPL 3.08 -> CID Unlock doesnt work -> Device report wrong DeviceID and CID ^_^
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dear net if he has 3.08 the 2.20 will not be installed, I know what I'm writting
but thanks for the advice

I think you can find it at pdamobiz.com
but please unlock cid before doing anything

paradis_pal said:
I think you can find it at pdamobiz.com
but please unlock cid before doing anything
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Hello.
Sorry for responding so late.
Right now my i-mate is Cid Unlocked and working with WM6 Prophet_4.0.0.0.3_PV just fine.
I´m Going to try and explore this (Beautifull) Rom and post my feedback.
Once more thank you for your help, atention and support.
Best Regards.

msylva said:
Hello.
Sorry for responding so late.
Right now my i-mate is Cid Unlocked and working with WM6 Prophet_4.0.0.0.3_PV just fine.
I´m Going to try and explore this (Beautifull) Rom and post my feedback.
Once more thank you for your help, atention and support.
Best Regards.
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As I said before, the feedback for this rom is just... GREAT.
Better than this only if it was in Portuguese (for me, off Corse), because in these rom theres no Portuguese GPRS configurations.
Regards.

Windows Mobile 6 on CID-locked Wizard

Hey everybody,
First I want to apologize for my incredible bad English. Nevertheless I think you all will get the message.
I have a question about installing a Crossbow ROM on a Dutch CID-Locked T-mobile MDA Vario. I have been reading a lot on this forum to do so, but till now I didn't manage to install it. I have read the 'little tutorial', but to keep my warranty I do not want to CID-unlock.
On this forum I also read about a guy who managed to install ROM's on a CID-locked MDA. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043
But, it he says that it is for 2.x OS. Is it also possible to do this for a Windows Mobile 6 ROM?
I also tried to modify the nk.nbf ROM with TyphoonNbfTool, but as soon as I save this file it is only 1 KB? Hopefully somebody has a simple solution for this n00b.
Thanks in advance, Bart

try this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613

Thanks Proland, for your quick reply. I have read this tutorial before I, but as I mentioned in my question, I rather not CID-unloch my device, since my warranty will be gone. I was just checking whether there is a more simple and safe way to install crossbow. But nevertheless, thanks again for your quick reply!
Bart

i used this on my cidlocked g4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293480 which is linked in that other thread

WOW, Proland, your the best. This is EXACTLY what I mean. It's a pity I can't download this 'Shelltool'. The links seem to be dead. If you could send this program to me I would be very gratefull. Hopefully you still got this file or know a working link. In case you still have it, my e-mail is [email protected]
Thanks in advance, Bart

I managed to install WM 6! Thanks again!
Bart

Prophet Rom Upgrade in Vista... Possible?

Hi Mates!! hehehe.
First, let-me thank you all for all the knowledge you share around here.
Its impressive, since the first moment I bought my (used) prophet (Imate JAMin) I spent some time reading everything here.
Well, let stop chating...
My prophet came in Portugal Portuguese, and I would like to change it to English. Since I´ll have to make everything, I´m thinking in upgrade it to WM6 or 6.1 (I´m not sure of cons and pros...I accept suggestions )
It is possible to upgrade the ROM in a pc runing windows vista??
The softwares required to do all the trick works at Vista?? (Ultimate by the way, if it changes anything)
Thank you all.
Bye.
D.Magliano

HAHA! Finaly someone from Brasil.
Hi, I'm in São Paulo and probably I'll be able to help you. Feel free to send me a mail to discuss [email protected].
Do you know the Version of your Prophet? G3 or G4? If not you may look in some foruns how to find out this info.
I have a Prophet G4, also used, from Spain and I setuped the following ROM and Window sMobile 6 Version:
- ROM update - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=405384
- Windows Mobile 6 - Prophet_S4V.19701.01_F - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389982 (download the Full Version)
If any download link doesn't work, please let me know.
Boa Sorte!
Max

Ok! So Max helped me a lot with the noob questions (avoiding me to fill the forum with dumb questions...)
But theres no perspective of been possible to upgrade through vista?
I´ll have to borrow my borther´s computer to do it...

d.magliano said:
Ok! So Max helped me a lot with the noob questions (avoiding me to fill the forum with dumb questions...)
But theres no perspective of been possible to upgrade through vista?
I´ll have to borrow my borther´s computer to do it...
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Try this:
Virtual PC

Ok!
Let´s make a "Live" step by step.
I´m now, officialy trying to upgrade my prophet.
1st Try:
I´m using a XP pc, and tried to upgrade to WM6.
Probably, I messed up forgetting to do the Hardspl.
I thought the "upgrade utility" allready did that...
So i Got
THREE COLOR SCREEN!
After a few seconds of "OH MY GOD! I JUST F***ED IT..."
I went lunch... sad (screew all, later I solve it..)
I download NVID_RUU and restored it perfectly, and greater...
At least, now a have a Prophet that speaks english!!!
The EU-Portuguese didn´t even had writing recognition...
Well, now a have again, my fullyworking Prophet, lets go to the second round.
Upgrading to WM6!!!
hehehehe
Bye, I´ll keep you all update hehehe
Magliano

Yeah!!! I did it...
Well, even having read the tutorial, many times I forgot to run the hardspl thing.
I noticed something weird, cause the tutorial said "the progress bar appeared only at the computer".
After restoring my prophet. I runned the hardspl, just 3 minutes and went fine.
So, I runned the upgrade tool, and again all went smooth...
Now I have a fully working Prophet running WM6.
Let me ask you something.
Did you notice any king of Advantage in using WM6.1?
The phone is too slow?
I´m thinking if i should update to 6.1. Seems that WM6 is good enough, but, if i had any advantages...
Well, thank you all!
Magliano

i have a prblem upgrading to WM6.1 in vista, is it really imposible upgrading ROM in vista?
i have already download and install windows mobile device centre (microsoft says that this software work as well as active sync in win XP) and i already syncronise my prophet to my PC.
when i tried to upgrade the ROM there always an error occur.it says connection problem.
anybody can hel me please.....

no one can help me? please...

Do this
Install Windows xp and try again, on my vista PC i never managed to upgrade my prophet on xp it always works.

complex problem with wm update

Hello,
i have been reading through this forum for a while and gained a lot of knowledge, thank u!
i am from germany, and i bought my samsung sgh-i780 in the US.
now i want to update my windows mobile to a newer version, but i am having trouble doing so:
the phones ID is: DXHD1
i am using the phone in english language just as i received it. but it seems like the phone has been imported to the US from eastern asia ?? right??
the official samsung page "http://www.samsungmobile.com/support/i780/index.jsp" doesnt work for me because my code isnt accepted in UK (i dont want a different language other than english or german)
what am i supposed to do now, in order to update my phone to a new wm version?
i read through the forums but i didnt find a fitting answer
sorry for my bad english, im not a native speaker
Armin

Welcome to forums
As we dedicate only to HTC devices you won´t get too much attention.
Better try here:
http://cellphoneforums.net/samsung/
Good luck,

Armin1991 said:
Hello,
i have been reading through this forum for a while and gained a lot of knowledge, thank u!
i am from germany, and i bought my samsung sgh-i780 in the US.
now i want to update my windows mobile to a newer version, but i am having trouble doing so:
the phones ID is: DXHD1
i am using the phone in english language just as i received it. but it seems like the phone has been imported to the US from eastern asia ?? right??
the official samsung page "http://www.samsungmobile.com/support/i780/index.jsp" doesnt work for me because my code isnt accepted in UK (i dont want a different language other than english or german)
what am i supposed to do now, in order to update my phone to a new wm version?
i read through the forums but i didnt find a fitting answer
sorry for my bad english, im not a native speaker
Armin
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try using UK and BVHF1 to get upgrader!
then tell me if you were able to update using this tool!

@hashtowent : alright, i tried it but it says "incorrect software version. check your device " too bad
@orb3000 thank you for the link i will post there also!
@ALL does anyone else know how to update my wm?

Armin1991 said:
@hashtowent : alright, i tried it but it says "incorrect software version. check your device " too bad
@orb3000 thank you for the link i will post there also!
@ALL does anyone else know how to update my wm?
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afaik
it should be possible to upgrade to russian rom(full eboot pda phone) with mirage
then apply e1 update pda part only (with mirage)
after this i supose official uk update from page above can be used to upgrad e phone to pdxib1 =) which is newest and std for actual roms'!

easy way?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3965684&postcount=162
try this way!
may it work for you!
ill be facing this problem too when my i780 is here! have ordered now.
my the hex way work =)
and if it does not may rename the string again!
please tell if you'd succes!

hashtowent said:
afaik
it should be possible to upgrade to russian rom(full eboot pda phone) with mirage
then apply e1 update pda part only (with mirage)
after this i supose official uk update from page above can be used to upgrad e phone to pdxib1 =) which is newest and std for actual roms'!
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I am very confused... i dont understand all the terms u used because im not into this topic as u are
could u explain those steps for someone who is a complete noob as to that topic please? i dont know how any of the things u have been talking about
if u could find the time to do so, i would be very happy
thanks 4 the help

Armin1991 said:
I am very confused... i dont understand all the terms u used because im not into this topic as u are
could u explain those steps for someone who is a complete noob as to that topic please? i dont know how any of the things u have been talking about
if u could find the time to do so, i would be very happy
thanks 4 the help
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forget this way!
first get official pdxib1(or how irt is spelled!) using the link provided in previous post!
and then edit it as decribed unter the same link!
i use xvi32 as hexeditor =)
tell me if this leads you to succes!

oh man, i will try this but this surely will take me days because ive never been into those topics but since i really want the new wm i will do my best and report!

Armin1991 said:
I am very confused... i dont understand all the terms u used because im not into this topic as u are
could u explain those steps for someone who is a complete noob as to that topic please? i dont know how any of the things u have been talking about
if u could find the time to do so, i would be very happy
thanks 4 the help
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so first there are 3 things:
bootloader: starts windowsmobile! (called: eboot)
then operationsystem: windowsmobile(called: pda)
third is phonecomponentfirmware(calledhone)
you have to update these three using a russian rom!(romis a packet including one or all this three sections!)
then you've to get english software code! for this apply e1 rom to your i780! (it flashes pda sektion)
then it should be possible to use official english upgrader obtained by the samsung website!
this updater makes your mobile run dixb1 in phone and pda section (or how this reccomended version is spelled!).
after this you can overide pda section using a dxib1 based rom likeironeagles or dreamtheater39 or heineken ones... =)

Armin1991 said:
oh man, i will try this but this surely will take me days because ive never been into those topics but since i really want the new wm i will do my best and report!
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second way described is very easy just get two files!
then edit one of them and there you are!( i think it is the seccond that has to be edited!)
official updater by samsung:
PDXIB1-XP
XVI32
what is to edit using xvi32? see middle of this post!
drivers
install xvi32 and the drivers!
then extract the updater with 7zip or winrar!
open biggest .exe with xvi32 and search for "DXIB1"... you will find it two times.
rename it both times to the same!
replace with what?
leaf the ib1 and replace the first two letters with the first two your phone has!

Armin1991 said:
Hello,
i have been reading through this forum for a while and gained a lot of knowledge, thank u!
i am from germany, and i bought my samsung sgh-i780 in the US.
now i want to update my windows mobile to a newer version, but i am having trouble doing so:
the phones ID is: DXHD1
i am using the phone in english language just as i received it. but it seems like the phone has been imported to the US from eastern asia ?? right??
the official samsung page "http://www.samsungmobile.com/support/i780/index.jsp" doesnt work for me because my code isnt accepted in UK (i dont want a different language other than english or german)
what am i supposed to do now, in order to update my phone to a new wm version?
i read through the forums but i didnt find a fitting answer
sorry for my bad english, im not a native speaker
Armin
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your code works when selection malaysian! =)
if you want to use uk version edit it like described in treath above!
but i think malaysian is english too!

hey!
i clicked on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=162 and downloaded: PDXIB1-XP
i started the .exe file on my computer and my phone was updated...
now i looked at my phone and everything works fine its upgradet to 6.1
PS.: I could have used the Malaysian one? maaaaan i should have tried that
thank u for all the time u spend helping me, i really appreciate it. now my phone works with 6.1.

Armin1991 said:
hey!
i clicked on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=162 and downloaded: PDXIB1-XP
i started the .exe file on my computer and my phone was updated...
now i looked at my phone and everything works fine its upgradet to 6.1
PS.: I could have used the Malaysian one? maaaaan i should have tried that
thank u for all the time u spend helping me, i really appreciate it. now my phone works with 6.1.
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pdxib1 IS malaysian! =) its unbranded version =) its offcial version from samsung not for brandet devices!
i will modify pdxib1 to update my german phone...
dont forget now you can update to cooked wm6.5!
most common bug is artefact when moving courser!
=)
AND DONT FORGET: GPS FIX! use it for every programm! w/o portsplitter!
gps fix
=)

so my current version is official.
"cooked wm6.5" ? what does cooked mean, is it not official?
and what would be the positive effects of installing the 6.5?
(u have a german phone? are u german, too?)

Armin1991 said:
so my current version is official.
"cooked wm6.5" ? what does cooked mean, is it not official?
and what would be the positive effects of installing the 6.5?
(u have a german phone? are u german, too?)
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cooked means edititen in a certain view.
so wm 6.1 is official
wm6.5.3 which u can obtain by using those "cooked" roms has a totaly reworked startmenu
it has other slidingpanels(titanium)
it might be faster. rom cookers (the persons building cooked roms) apply patches for stability ;more ram/space/pagepool new themes.
in wm 6.5 theres no real advantage than new startmenu and ne ie6 mobile.
i suppose to give ironeagle or heinekens rom a try and if you dont like it just flash old wm 6.1 back =)
its up to everyone to decide self wheater it is usefull or not.
on my old htc vox i always jused latest wm obtainable becuase of new features speed and stability
but the flexcable broke^^ so i got a new phone as vox is allways damaged somewhere.
and yes i'm german and i've just payed my new i780 =)
so it will arrive maybe around 29/30/31 this month =)

password
hey guys,
big problem!!!
i forgot the screen-lock-password of my phone and now i dont know what to do.
dont want to lose all my data... so a hard reset is not my solution.
do u know a way to obtain my password? should i go to a samsung store?
please help me.. (

hashtowent said:
cooked means edititen in a certain view.
so wm 6.1 is official
wm6.5.3 which u can obtain by using those "cooked" roms has a totaly reworked startmenu
it has other slidingpanels(titanium)
it might be faster. rom cookers (the persons building cooked roms) apply patches for stability ;more ram/space/pagepool new themes.
in wm 6.5 theres no real advantage than new startmenu and ne ie6 mobile.
i suppose to give ironeagle or heinekens rom a try and if you dont like it just flash old wm 6.1 back =)
its up to everyone to decide self wheater it is usefull or not.
on my old htc vox i always jused latest wm obtainable becuase of new features speed and stability
but the flexcable broke^^ so i got a new phone as vox is allways damaged somewhere.
and yes i'm german and i've just payed my new i780 =)
so it will arrive maybe around 29/30/31 this month =)
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und du verstehst sogar deutsch hilf mir bitte bitte bitte
hab das ganze internet abgesucht xD