Related
Hello all,
I just had an interesting conversation with a rep @ O2 UK.
I just got a bit keen and started calling SP's (3 T-mob and O2) about Data services that they offer.
I currently have a HTC advantage (ameo) on T-mobile web and walk which costs me £32.50 a month for a piddly amount of texts and mins and Data capped at 1GB "fair usage" they say, no skype, no streaming, no USB.
(not that I give a **** I listen to radio ABF many days a week through 3g
This isnt their premiere uncapped data service, that costs double or triple what I pay.
Well I called 3 and I got an annoying sales rep on the phone, he told me that I can't buy a sim on its own from 3!
Then I said ok Ill get a free phone from you just give me flat data and he reeled off reasons why it wouldnt work and if it did I would be tied to only visiting certain sites.....
The networked which names its self "3" as in 3rd gen communications wont give me 3rd gen communications.
Ok I thought, I call everyone else.
O2 just happened to be first on my list.
I told the sales guy my deal on T-mobile and I said I wanted to get an Uncapped data plan for as cheap as possible.
Well he told me that on the 28 September 2007 a new UNLIMITED data plan will be available for all contracts for!!!!! £7.50
Thats what we pay for 1 GB on T-mob.
If you add this to the £15 a month SIM ONLY contract they have which gives 200 UK mins and 400 text's thats £22.50 a month for calls texts and UNLIMITED DATA>
Looks like I will be paying them my hard earned money instead of T-mobile.
Sorry if this has been reported before (and I missed it)
Have a good day all
iPhone Users Get Their Butts Kissed
Well so far it sesm that O2 will be kissing the butt of iPhone customers.
According to the O2 site, their will indeed be unlimited data for the iPhone on all tariff options of the iPhone, however strangely the price of the actual handset doesn't scale down as you increase the tariff.
There is currently no mention of the unlimited data plan being available to customers on other packages with other model handsets, although having read something on the 3G forum, a user their posted a link to this topic on another site:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=154284
Whilst it is not unlimited as with the iPhone its certainly a step in the right direction if the information is correct. A read from another site that O2 will again ammend their data tariffs in Q1/Q2 of 2008 to make them match those of T-Mobile which would be excellent, although I'm sure existing customers won't be privy to the new rates until renewal time.
O2 will have brought these new rates in just in time to save my custom if the information is correct, althogh I have sent an email to O2 this evening moaning, saying along the lines of I think that O2 are too interested in making money than providing customers with good handsets, because the HTC Kaiser eats the iPhone for breakfast, however because of all the hype about the iPhone it will obviously sell better than a Kaiser would do, even though the features suck by comparison, and that I also think that it is very customer discrimination esk by providing iPhone customers with unlimited whilst everyone else suffers.
Let's she thier reply!!
yarod_g14 said:
Hello all,
I just had an interesting conversation with a rep @ O2 UK.
I just got a bit keen and started calling SP's (3 T-mob and O2) about Data services that they offer.
I currently have a HTC advantage (ameo) on T-mobile web and walk which costs me £32.50 a month for a piddly amount of texts and mins and Data capped at 1GB "fair usage" they say, no skype, no streaming, no USB.
(not that I give a **** I listen to radio ABF many days a week through 3g
This isnt their premiere uncapped data service, that costs double or triple what I pay.
Well I called 3 and I got an annoying sales rep on the phone, he told me that I can't buy a sim on its own from 3!
Then I said ok Ill get a free phone from you just give me flat data and he reeled off reasons why it wouldnt work and if it did I would be tied to only visiting certain sites.....
The networked which names its self "3" as in 3rd gen communications wont give me 3rd gen communications.
Ok I thought, I call everyone else.
O2 just happened to be first on my list.
I told the sales guy my deal on T-mobile and I said I wanted to get an Uncapped data plan for as cheap as possible.
Well he told me that on the 28 September 2007 a new UNLIMITED data plan will be available for all contracts for!!!!! £7.50
Thats what we pay for 1 GB on T-mob.
If you add this to the £15 a month SIM ONLY contract they have which gives 200 UK mins and 400 text's thats £22.50 a month for calls texts and UNLIMITED DATA>
Looks like I will be paying them my hard earned money instead of T-mobile.
Sorry if this has been reported before (and I missed it)
Have a good day all
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You did better than me all I got out of them was that there was an unlimited plan due out on the 1st but no details available.
You can actually do better than this with T-Mobile. They have a £7.50 a month sim only plus £7.50 a month Web N Walk addon. So £15 a month.
But it is good news because I'm on the O2 Simplicity £15 a month contract so come 1/10 I'll be calling O2 to get the data added.
Thanks for the Yarod.
Lucky Europeans!
God, Europe gets all the good cell phone stuff. They get tons of phones sold to them unlocked, they get decent prepaid options, going with a SIM-only contract isn't uncommon, CDMA is non-existent, and unlimited data w/ 400 texts for £32.50 (Roughly $64.80, according to Google).
True, while Sprint's SERO plan is offering unlimited data and texts for $30/mo (roughly £15), it's CDMA, and Sprint has the worst customer service record I've ever heard of. The closest deal is T-Mobile's $20 data plan, with either a $30 calling plan (300 minutes) or 300 minutes and MyFaves ($40), which brings you to around $70 after taxes and fees ($80 if you want 1,000 text messages).
I almost wish I could buy an O2 SIM and use it here (without crippling fees and charges, that is).
Finally someone to match T-Mobile!
Competition is a good thing indeed.
I currently have a T-Mobile MDA III (aka: Artemis) which i paid £60 for on a 12 month contract @ £15 per month. Any how my contract is now finished so im entitled to an upgrade or reduce line rental... or i could move to another operator. I like the look of the HTC Cruise but i cant see this model on T-Mobiles website, only the MDA Touch & Touch Plus.
Which UK operateors ([email protected] 02, vodafone, Orange, etc) sell the Cruise. Also anyone seen any good monthly contracts for upto £25 a month.
Hi there,
You can try o2 they have xda orbit 2 which is really a the same as a touch cruise in a slightly different casing.
check it out on their website. And find their tariff for orbit 2 .
Good luck.
PrEEcY said:
I currently have a T-Mobile MDA III (aka: Artemis) which i paid £60 for on a 12 month contract @ £15 per month. Any how my contract is now finished so im entitled to an upgrade or reduce line rental... or i could move to another operator. I like the look of the HTC Cruise but i cant see this model on T-Mobiles website, only the MDA Touch & Touch Plus.
Which UK operateors ([email protected] 02, vodafone, Orange, etc) sell the Cruise. Also anyone seen any good monthly contracts for upto £25 a month.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can get the O2 Orbit 2 for £49.99 and pay £30 a month for 24 months. This includes 600 minutes, 1000 texts and the Unlimited Web bolt on. Any less a month and the phone becomes rather expensive. Nearly as much as the £270 I was quoted for a Tmobile upgrade from Vario II to Vario III!
Go here, http://shop.o2.co.uk/tariffs/24_months select the online 30, change the bolt on, and select the Orbit 2 in the phone section.
I got mine from expansys - awesome t-mobile deal. Phone was free on a web n walk package giving me unlimited data use on an 18mth contract, £35 a month. I think they have started charging for this package now though. Much better than O2 as you get the proper HTC model and not the poxy O2 casing
wow thats expensive
O2 gave me the Orbit 2 free,
600 mins
1500 txts
unlimited data bolt on
for just £20 a month
thegr8one23 said:
O2 gave me the Orbit 2 free,
600 mins
1500 txts
unlimited data bolt on
for just £20 a month
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow thats cheap, how did you get that deal?
badassmcfunk said:
I got mine from expansys - awesome t-mobile deal. Phone was free on a web n walk package giving me unlimited data use on an 18mth contract, £35 a month. I think they have started charging for this package now though. Much better than O2 as you get the proper HTC model and not the poxy O2 casing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The "poxy" 02 casing is by far the better looking IMHO
Not trying to flame here...
Brought my Orbit 2 from Ebay at £280 (sold the Kaiser for £255).
Nogs
I got:
Free Phone
12 Months
600 Mins
1000 Texts
Unlimited Web
£20 p/m
chris2403 said:
I got:
Free Phone
12 Months
600 Mins
1000 Texts
Unlimited Web
£20 p/m
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How?
Shop/Web/Upgrade???????
got orbit 2 18months at £25 ,free unlimited internet bolt on 600 minutes, 1000 texts and wait for it .... free one year o2 broadband 8meg fully paid and £50 credit beat that !!!!
nixonm said:
How?
Shop/Web/Upgrade???????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think you have to be in some secret society - everyone seems to get fantastic deals, but won't say how!
they call this society ''select customers'' on o2 this deal was presented through upgrade retentions team and being o2 customer for years .so therefore is not available to new customer but will be once completed contract terms
devioust said:
they call this society ''select customers'' on o2 this deal was presented through upgrade retentions team and being o2 customer for years .so therefore is not available to new customer but will be once completed contract terms
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thought it was! will still go with O2, as Tmobile don't seem interested in keeping me on. Thanks 4 the info.
Hey i thought i would share my experience with t mobile so far due to their upgrade blunder::
T-Mobile Customer Relations Mr ###########
[email protected] ###address###
[email protected]
Account Number: ##########
Mobile Number: 07#########
Due to recent as yet unresolved problems I have had from T-Mobile I feel I have no other choice but write this email. the staff I have spoken to have all being very nice on the phone and made promises that as yet have not being fulfilled and the majority of times nothing has being done.
I was informed by my local T-Mobile store on the 23rd of July that T-mobile had stock of the new ‘MDA Vario IV’ and this had being confirmed by other people (see this link ((see this link (by the way my user name on this site is spzero)) then the next day I rang up and asked if I could upgrade to the new Vario IV knowing there was some confusion I questioned the member of staff about this and was informed that they did have some in stock and would be sent one out, after posting of my joy on the same site above I read further that people were being lied to about this phone and sent the ‘MDA Compact IV’( see further proof here in this same thread) I rang back T-Mobile and was informed I had ordered a ‘MDA Compact IV’ despite my conversation verifying which phone I was after. I spoke to a CSA who was helpful and tried to resolve the problem but the phone had being dispatched and all I could do was refuse the delivery she did also say that “many phone companies do similar things she used to work at Orange and informed me they purposefully placed early, incorrect due dates on there systems and website to entice customers, knowing orders could not be fulfilled and by the time a complaint had being made stock would be in and the customer would have got the phone they wanted.” It seams the same thing is going on here at the end of the call she advised she would call me back before the 4th of august as my next statement would be issued if not sorted out then that I would be charged for a higher Tariff that I had agreed to, in order to be able to get the phone I wanted and also would be charged for the phone.
I waited and received no phone call on the 5th of August I received two text messages from T-Mobile one advising my phone had being returned and one advising my available credit for the rest of the month. I rang up to enquire about this immediately as they was much talk time available than expected and assumed I had being charged at the new higher price tariff, I was informed that this was a mistake and my bill would be adjusted when I received it in the post.
A few days later on the 8th of August my Bill turns up for £106.26. This included a £5.95 charge for delivery which I never agreed to and am quite sure was never told about. I rang T-mobile and got thru to a Stephen the line was disconnected instantly and when I called back got the same agent who listened to my problem and then said I will place you on hold while I look at the account but he didn’t give me chance to agree to this or ask if it was ok. While waiting for Stephen to come back I managed to eat my tea that had being prepared and after 10 minutes I was still on hold. I rang back and spoke to Ashley who’s team number was 799. I was told that a credit would be applied to my bill to make up for their error and that it had all being sorted and asked if they could help further I asked what my bill would be with the credit and was told £99.27 I couldn’t understand this as I had returned the phone and had a text message to confirm safe receipt and the tariff had supposedly being adjusted (My previous tariff was about £35.00 a month and I rarely used any texts or calls above my free allowance. In fact the only charges outside of my price plan was for £0.68 for call charges.) and as I had previously requested a cheaper tariff knew they was no valid reason for my bill to be above £30.00.
My call was transferred to another agent I was told by Ashley she would advise what my call was regarding and give the agent my account details, I was transferred to a CSA called Mark in the Ready 2 team who had no idea what the call was regarding and didn’t have my details so I had to confirm security questions again, after this Mark was able to help I was told to cancel my Direct Debit at my bank as he was not sure if it would take the £106.26 or the new adjusted amount he was processing, I was also told to wait 3 days and my bill would be corrected and could pay the new amount with a debit card over the phone and cancel my account as by this time I was that upset with the service I no longer wanted to deal with T-mobile again.
On the 12th I received a call from T-mobile but as was at work missed it I rang back and was told there was no information on my account as to who had called or what it was in relation to I was also told my current balance still hadn’t being adjusted but as it had not yet being 3 working days I decided to wait. The next day I received a further call and answered this and was asked if I was interested in T-Mobile’s fantastic Mobile Broadband and declined to accept the offer due to all the problems I have had and that I already had a similar service from 3.
When I got home today (The 14th of August) as I was unsure if my account had being sorted I rang T-Mobile to check (this shows on my phone the call was made at 5:15pm) I was advised by the automated service that my balance was still at the £99.27. I then spoke to spoke to mark on team 718 and asked to speak to a team leader, he refused to put me thru and wanted to know what I was calling about. I advised that due to the way my problem had being handled I didn’t want to speak to a CSA again but I wanted to speak to a manager and I knew my legal rights concerning this as I work in a call centre he still refused to transfer me and continued to ask what it was regarding I said if he checked the notes it should indicate what the problem was regarding, he looked at the notes and advised the last two calls showed I had called up and asked for my balance and the second time asked for my Direct Debit to be cancelled but no other notes so he was clueless, as the two previous calls on the system were lengthy complaints and took some time I was surprised at the lack of any further information. He checked back at other notes and advised me that a credit was going to be applied to my account at my next bill date, I advised that this would mean in order for me to pay my account this month and not miss a payment I was having to pay for their error as the only reason I took the new Phone and Tariff was because I was lied to at the outset about the availability of a phone, I don’t mind paying for my call time and text usage but I don’t see why I should pay for T-Mobiles error. He didn’t respond to this and advised they have their processes and no one can credit my account before my next bill date. A asked why I had already being credited a refund that was showing on my account as my bill had reduced and again no real answer was given just that it was a credit for delivery and this was different to the credit of a handset and tariff adjustment. As I used to work for o2 and currently work in a call centre I know how things should work and I know some one can sort this problem out and place a credit on my phone account now, but I was told by Mark that it would not happen as no one was able to do this in the end after going in circles I again asked to speak to a team leader, manager or whoever could help me and was informed I would be called back by a Team leader as none were available, in between one and two hours. Due to these problems I asked for an email address I could complain to and was advised of the one above, then I was informed that this department could credit my account and sort all my problems out but no telephone number was available and all communication had to be by email or post. I advised Mark that I was going out and needed the manager call back ASAP. When I returned home my phone showed just one missed call which was made at 8:12 so again I was given wrong information as this was actually over two and a half hours after my request.
Due to the way I have being treated as a paying customer and the fact that I have repeatedly being lied to over the phone by and that my account has not being updated I find no other alternative but to send this email which shows the underhanded tactics that T-Mobile is using and despite myself and others advising of the lies in regards to stock of the new phone fact the blunders, thru either lack of training or blatant dishonesty, continue (just read the following forum threads in full from xda-developers.com same links as above) It also seams the same pattern of lies happened with the release of the Vario III and Compact III.
I hope some one can sort my statement out as at the moment I am being charged for a mistake that T-Mobile has made due to lies or marketing strategy and this seams to not just be an operator error but a marketing scam in order to hold on to customers and entice new one’s and I think this should not be tolerated by paying customers and I expect my account to be sorted out so I can have the privilege of never having to deal with such a company in the future. Also due to the now many hours of my time in writing this email and speaking to staff I expect compensation or this matter will be taken further
PS this information has being posted on the internet where no doubt all those wanting to buy your new phone will be warned of what a terrible company you are and no doubt purchase the o2 xda diamond pro (which is the same phone just renamed
Just sent the email awaiting reply the amount of misinformation from this company is amazing lets see what happens
Wow that's some email! lol. I've been on the phone with t-mobile and the dude said to me late august or september, but most likely september.
Looks like I'll be getting it with t-mobile- they seem like the only people that have half descent data add ons. will probably be getting it on "Combi 40 + web'n'walk (18 months)" for £40.50 a month + £5 extra for "Mobile Broadband Plus (3GB fair use)"
The way I justify spending £45.50 a month on a phone is that after the 18 months it'll have cost me £819. so if you take away the £500 cost of the phone it works out at £17.72 a month for; 1000 minutes, unlimited txt and 3GB of HSDPA- or does anyone see a flaw in my plan? lol.
adamdon89 said:
Wow that's some email! lol. I've been on the phone with t-mobile and the dude said to me late august or september, but most likely september.
Looks like I'll be getting it with t-mobile- they seem like the only people that have half descent data add ons. will probably be getting it on "Combi 40 + web'n'walk (18 months)" for £40.50 a month + £5 extra for "Mobile Broadband Plus (3GB fair use)"
The way I justify spending £45.50 a month on a phone is that after the 18 months it'll have cost me £819. so if you take away the £500 cost of the phone it works out at £17.72 a month for; 1000 minutes, unlimited txt and 3GB of HSDPA- or does anyone see a flaw in my plan? lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3gb limit and restricted to fair use thats the worse deal ever go with o2 they have much better deals and i bet most other networks do too.
Now most networks offer unlimited data, 18 months ago only t-mobile did as far as i know which is why i moved to them from my o2 staff tariff with 50% off, but all the other networks do and i think at a better price. o2 do it as a add on for £5.00 a month or they were doing a deal on any 18 month contract you could choose a free add on so either unlimited data, texts or o2 to landline and o2 to o2 calls.. much better than t-mobile. o2 are releaseing the Raphael as o2 xda diamond pro... just a matter of waiting for release like i would be doing with t-mobile. long live o2..
spzero said:
3gb limit and restricted to fair use thats the worse deal ever go with o2 they have much better deals and i bet most other networks do too.
Now most networks offer unlimited data, 18 months ago only t-mobile did as far as i know which is why i moved to them from my o2 staff tariff with 50% off, but all the other networks do and i think at a better price. o2 do it as a add on for £5.00 a month or they were doing a deal on any 18 month contract you could choose a free add on so either unlimited data, texts or o2 to landline and o2 to o2 calls.. much better than t-mobile. o2 are releaseing the Raphael as o2 xda diamond pro... just a matter of waiting for release like i would be doing with t-mobile. long live o2..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
O2 maybe good with the unlimited data but their call minutes are poor. I have been looking at all of the companies and T-Mobile's minutes are good and it will mean that I will have to change to a 18 month contract. But the only other provider that may come close is 3. But are they going to offer the touch pro?
spzero said:
3gb limit and restricted to fair use thats the worse deal ever go with o2 they have much better deals and i bet most other networks do too.
Now most networks offer unlimited data, 18 months ago only t-mobile did as far as i know which is why i moved to them from my o2 staff tariff with 50% off, but all the other networks do and i think at a better price. o2 do it as a add on for £5.00 a month or they were doing a deal on any 18 month contract you could choose a free add on so either unlimited data, texts or o2 to landline and o2 to o2 calls.. much better than t-mobile. o2 are releaseing the Raphael as o2 xda diamond pro... just a matter of waiting for release like i would be doing with t-mobile. long live o2..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know I did some digging around and it looks like all the networks now have really bad fair usage apart from t-mobile atm.
O2's "Unlimited Web Bolt On":
A fair usage policy applies and average monthly usage is expected to be below 200MB...
Vodafone's "Mobile Internet and email pack":
Subject to a fair use limit of 500mb per month...
Orange's "Orange World Monthly Access":
The Offer provides 250 MB data browsing...
It looks like everywhere you go it's gona be useless data add ons for £5/7.50 a month :/
"3" have the best value unlimited data packages.
Personally I'm on Vodafone who are woeful in the UK for data packages, but I struggle for a signal in my little corner of London with other networks...
update! So my automated response from T-Mobile advised i would be contacted in 3 working days or an email sent.. well they have half an hour to sort out my problem. i did get a call this morning from someone in cust services bu as i havea job was not able to discuss my account she asked when to call back and i said i had a lunch break at 1.30 so at 3.15 or something i got a call again unabe to discuss but she appologised for the delay and arranged to call me back when i had finnished work @ 4.00 so no call im now on a train wit intermitent signal so unlikely to get a call even if she tries and i did advise i would be on a train and th time to call.. well the girl dealing Danielle finnishes soon so once agin seems like they are full lies and empty promises..... this is disgraceful and i am shocked at the disgraceful service or lack of it so far........ will up date if they ever sort any thing out
Any news on your dilema from T-Mobile?
Do have to make a side note that my experiences with the Dutch T-Mobile have been outstanding.
They did not try to con my into taking the wrong phone and the girl was well aware that it would be out late august at earliest.
Difference was that i was more interested in getting her number and the end of contract stuff.
Eventually i got the HTC branded version from an online shop.
Noonski said:
Do have to make a side note that my experiences with the Dutch T-Mobile have been outstanding.
They did not try to con my into taking the wrong phone and the girl was well aware that it would be out late august at earliest.
Difference was that i was more interested in getting her number and the end of contract stuff.
Eventually i got the HTC branded version from an online shop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Joker! Did you get her number? I'll be trying to get that friends and family discount.
Noonski said:
Do have to make a side note that my experiences with the Dutch T-Mobile have been outstanding.
They did not try to con my into taking the wrong phone and the girl was well aware that it would be out late august at earliest.
Difference was that i was more interested in getting her number and the end of contract stuff.
Eventually i got the HTC branded version from an online shop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is that what they mean by customer care then ?
adamdon89 said:
O2's "Unlimited Web Bolt On":
A fair usage policy applies and average monthly usage is expected to be below 200MB...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you read that on the expansys site by any chance?... old information! I believe O2 have now changed their terms for this bolt on, and don't specify a limit anymore! Read page 2 of this thread and you'll see what I mean. It would certainly make sense for O2 to offer a good data plan so that they can shift their iphone 3G's!
I'm currently on a "solo" sim only contract with T-Mobile, but I'm in the process of transferring to O2 as they're currently doing a great "simplicity" pay monthly package, which at the moment has a special offer £5 off the monthly fee (offer expires end of August). It comes with the unlimited text bolt on, but there's an option before purchase to change it to the unlimited web bolt on, and if you do that you'll end up with 600 mins (any network), 1000 texts, and unlimited web for £20 a month I don't think any network can beat this offer.
Anyway regarding the fair usage policy, if O2 do claim my data usage is too excessive (which I doubt will happen), I'll just go straight back to T-Mobile again. The great thing about sim only deals is that they only have a 30 day contract, so they're easy to get out of. The downside of course is because they're sim only you won't ever get an upgrade deal from your network - you'll have to buy a sim-free handset or a pay as you go handset on your network and chuck away the sim card that it comes with.
P.S. Thanks to EViS for pointing out that great O2 offer to me
I understand what your saying, but without a subsidy you are looking at £500 for the phone, that is equivalent to nearly £30 per month over 18 months. meaining your total monthly is around £50 per month ! where as on T-mob you will probably get the phone + unlimited data +more mins and more texts for the same amount
RavenY2K3 said:
Any news on your dilema from T-Mobile?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey yeah i got a call yesterday from Danielle while on the train so signal kept dropping couldnt have a real conversation. but
So far my balance has being wipped off and i am due a call back on tuesday to discuss my other problems in the email. i would imagine Danielle will read this as she is monitoring my account so what should i ask for in compensationto give her a heads up here are some ideas a pre-release vario VI??? a htc diamond pro (its the same phone BTW just incase you are reading this but its already released) lots of money??? never to have to speak to t-mobile again ?? Any better answers on a postcard??????
To be honest i dont know if i want to keep my contract even if they do offer me a great deal but i would have my price......................
Got a call today from Danielle again offered me an extra months line rental as credit and said if i stay with them she could offer a line rental discount for the future and a largely reduced handset, but when i said i wanted the vario 4 was told non in stock so i said i wanted to cancel my contract and was told i couldnt as i had just upgraded my phone..... i almost went mad with her she should know by now i didnt upgrade but that the company she works for had lied to me to agree to an upgrade and it was returned its quite funny really, she did say tho that my complaint had gone right to the directors and will be looked into so who knows maybe they will stop the madness,, by no means a great outcome but at least its something..
I'm just about managing to sit tight with T-Mobile UK despite thier incompetencies. How hard can it be to say "it's in testing, not sure when it'll be ready". Even that would be better than "dunno - not on my system". Just makes me think of David Walliams saying "Computer says no".
What does slightly concern me though is that my advertised upgrade price to the Compact IV is £100. What the hell does that mean the Vario IV is going to cost me?
I fear some hardcore haggling may be in order.
It's starting to get the point when I need a new phone badly. My Vario II is dying a slow and very apparent death. If the Vario IV doesn't come soon I might have to give up and jump to the Compact IV. Damn shame that would be - I love a keyboard on my phone. Had one since my O2 XDA IIs. What will I do without it?
Come on T-Mobile - sort yourselves out!
dom_mitchell1 said:
I'm just about managing to sit tight with T-Mobile UK despite thier incompetencies. How hard can it be to say "it's in testing, not sure when it'll be ready". Even that would be better than "dunno - not on my system". Just makes me think of David Walliams saying "Computer says no".
What does slightly concern me though is that my advertised upgrade price to the Compact IV is £100. What the hell does that mean the Vario IV is going to cost me?
I fear some hardcore haggling may be in order.
It's starting to get the point when I need a new phone badly. My Vario II is dying a slow and very apparent death. If the Vario IV doesn't come soon I might have to give up and jump to the Compact IV. Damn shame that would be - I love a keyboard on my phone. Had one since my O2 XDA IIs. What will I do without it?
Come on T-Mobile - sort yourselves out!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hold out my friend only a couple more weeks T-Mobile are building up hype for the phone so that they can sell more. I think that it will come out in September within the first two weeks they like to release at least one new phone a month and this one will be a big seller until they release the gphone the following month.
T-Mobile really have no business sense. I am due an upgrade and would like the MDA Vario IV / HTC Touch Pro. They can't tell me when the Vario is out and they wont cut me a deal if I get the touch pro off a reseller even though expansys seem to think it's worth their time offering it on my current contract at £2.50 cheaper a month for £110! Rather than give me a similar deal t-mobile'd rather lose a customer it seems ( and make me wait for my new phone ), they're even asking for £100 just to upgrade to the diamond/compact! I don't see the logic :S
I'm tempted to get it off vodaphone business when it's out later this month, if anything just to not stay with t-mobile! (Also although vodaphones coverage sucks they have good contracts and in some places support 6.8mbps 3g).
I feel sorry for anyone else trying to get this phone without paying the £496rrp lol
Just got woken up by a tmobile rep at a store to tell me the reason why the vario 4 isnt out yet is because the device is currently over heating and HTC need to fix this issue before they sell them
I don't know weather this is true or not but it sounds a bit far fetched for a device that's meant to be technically identical to the touch pro.
I dunno maybe there changing hardware specs as well...
Oh and exspansys deals are not fair the contracts are 5-10 quid more expensive per month for the equivalent deals on o2s shop and website.
And untill exspansys changes the details on the site i have to assume the data package does have a 200 mb FUP
All i can see at the moment is Vodafone business, and with unlimited internet only on an 18month contract, im not interested
Really want a 12month contract with an unlimited data allowance.
T-Mobile seem to be monging about now, got them but wont sell them.
Anyone know about O2 and orange???
can forget about 3 there latest phone is a N95 hmmmm.
fil said:
All i can see at the moment is Vodafone business, and with unlimited internet only on an 18month contract, im not interested
Really want a 12month contract with an unlimited data allowance.
T-Mobile seem to be monging about now, got them but wont sell them.
Anyone know about O2 and orange???
can forget about 3 there latest phone is a N95 hmmmm.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just got mine on Vodafone after saying I would leave if I didnt get what I wanted
£30 / month, 500 mins 100 texts and unlimited mobile web. Phone was £50. Not bad id say.
Just spoke with O2 Select today and they will bring it out in November
3 australia already have it, and 3UK do have the N96, so don't discount them just yet
ice_coffee said:
3 australia already have it, and 3UK do have the N96, so don't discount them just yet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hes right you know!
Was taken from an add in the paper yesterday for 3 say pick from the latest phones, and the N95 was there but not n96, but i see it is on there website, ill keep my eye out
amygdalo said:
Just spoke with O2 Select today and they will bring it out in November
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
whats O2 select? got a link to there tarrifs
I received this phone a few days ago and it was free with 2 years contract.
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1031847&highlight=htc
so now, i just need to have it unlock for tmobile.
You do realize that you'll have to pay ETF, equipment cost, and your first bill right? All that should come to about $550.
175(ETF) + 40(1st bill) + 36(activation) = $251 still a good deal.
hohiah said:
175(ETF) + 40(1st bill) + 36(activation) = $251 still a good deal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
None of you people read the contract agreement? If you cancel a contract (in the first 6 months was it?) then you have to pay EQUIPMENT cost which is like ~$300/$400. I don't remember. I tried to do that when I got my free tilt. They said I couldn't and I would have to pay equipment cost. and this was AFTER 60 or so days.
No 3G on T-Mobile with the Fuze either.
Kraize said:
None of you people read the contract agreement? If you cancel a contract (in the first 6 months was it?) then you have to pay EQUIPMENT cost which is like ~$300/$400. I don't remember. I tried to do that when I got my free tilt. They said I couldn't and I would have to pay equipment cost. and this was AFTER 60 or so days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, nobody listens. I have been saying this for ever. You are 100% correct.
I got mine free thru the letstalk deal. but i wont be cancelling.
Letstalk, amazon and newegg are the few retailers that have a clause in additon to the att clause. It usually states if you the buyer cancel before the 6 month of the billing cycle, you will be chagrge the full amount of the phone or to some of that extent since 3rd party have a severe discount when you sign up with them for example letstalk is giving awat the fuze for free.
KD8DNS said:
Nope, nobody listens. I have been saying this for ever. You are 100% correct.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Finally! Someone who at least knows about the Equipment cost.
Kraize said:
Finally! Someone who at least knows about the Equipment cost.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just went through the service agreement with ATT (on there website) - there NO mention of "Equipment Cost". Within 30 days you have to return the phone, after - pay $175 ETF.
Maybe with other retailers agreement differs...
hohiah said:
175(ETF) + 40(1st bill) + 36(activation) = $251 still a good deal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is still a good deal, but why won't you have data charge for the 1st bill?
sclui56 said:
It is still a good deal, but why won't you have data charge for the 1st bill?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just got the first bill last week, there was no data charges or it doesn't have a data plan.
The equipment cost is not listed on the ATT contract and I think it only applies to Letstalk, Amazon and other retailers because they make commissions off the contract but that contract has to be valid for 6 months.
Free through the AT&T Premier Site
I got a fuze free with a new line of service and a 1yr aggreement. AT&T Premier offered the fuze free on Dec. 1 only.
cp1md2b said:
I got a fuze free with a new line of service and a 1yr aggreement. AT&T Premier offered the fuze free on Dec. 1 only.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same here, but 1 year agreement? wdf? how? I got 2 yr. Are you sure it's 1 year?
The deal is 2 years for the free Fuze
Kraize said:
Same here, but 1 year agreement? wdf? how? I got 2 yr. Are you sure it's 1 year?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same deal here. I had to reup for 2 years. I was out of contract on my old line so when I got the Fuze they tried to make me start a new line with a new number. After 2 days of arguing they finally transferred my old line/number to the new contract.
Me and my employees deal with this issue daily............for the record............ATT will charge you 175ETF First Bill and Act fee and small proration of days (if you keep >14days, Less than that only pay ETF and proration)................LETSTALK, Amazon and other authorized dealers (YES some agent locations do this) will charge you their own fees if desired, its in the agreement you sign WITH THEM........Further more, keep in mind Walmart.com prices include "LETSTALK MIR's" these also fall under the above additional charge clause.
PLEASE READ YOUR MIR AND SMALL PRINT WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING A DEAL. DON'T SCREW YOURSELF OVER LIKE MANY DO DAILY, I LIKE TO THINK READERS OF XDA ARE SMARTER THAN THAT
im mad because i work at BBY and i bought the fone the day before release then when i went home for thanksgiving break bb employees now can order through premier i coulda got the phone for 300 without a contract
but i dont mind my contract
20 a month. 2000 mins and unlimited everything else
@lbhocky19
Wanna hook me up with a few for $300?
Kraize said:
@lbhocky19
Wanna hook me up with a few for $300?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Me too me too
sclui56 said:
It is still a good deal, but why won't you have data charge for the 1st bill?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Call as soon as the line is activated and remove data plan (no term except on iphones).