Just got the best deal for a Fuze - Touch Pro, Fuze General

I received this phone a few days ago and it was free with 2 years contract.
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?sduid=0&t=1031847&highlight=htc
so now, i just need to have it unlock for tmobile.

You do realize that you'll have to pay ETF, equipment cost, and your first bill right? All that should come to about $550.

175(ETF) + 40(1st bill) + 36(activation) = $251 still a good deal.

hohiah said:
175(ETF) + 40(1st bill) + 36(activation) = $251 still a good deal.
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None of you people read the contract agreement? If you cancel a contract (in the first 6 months was it?) then you have to pay EQUIPMENT cost which is like ~$300/$400. I don't remember. I tried to do that when I got my free tilt. They said I couldn't and I would have to pay equipment cost. and this was AFTER 60 or so days.

No 3G on T-Mobile with the Fuze either.

Kraize said:
None of you people read the contract agreement? If you cancel a contract (in the first 6 months was it?) then you have to pay EQUIPMENT cost which is like ~$300/$400. I don't remember. I tried to do that when I got my free tilt. They said I couldn't and I would have to pay equipment cost. and this was AFTER 60 or so days.
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Nope, nobody listens. I have been saying this for ever. You are 100% correct.

I got mine free thru the letstalk deal. but i wont be cancelling.

Letstalk, amazon and newegg are the few retailers that have a clause in additon to the att clause. It usually states if you the buyer cancel before the 6 month of the billing cycle, you will be chagrge the full amount of the phone or to some of that extent since 3rd party have a severe discount when you sign up with them for example letstalk is giving awat the fuze for free.

KD8DNS said:
Nope, nobody listens. I have been saying this for ever. You are 100% correct.
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Finally! Someone who at least knows about the Equipment cost.

Kraize said:
Finally! Someone who at least knows about the Equipment cost.
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I just went through the service agreement with ATT (on there website) - there NO mention of "Equipment Cost". Within 30 days you have to return the phone, after - pay $175 ETF.
Maybe with other retailers agreement differs...

hohiah said:
175(ETF) + 40(1st bill) + 36(activation) = $251 still a good deal.
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It is still a good deal, but why won't you have data charge for the 1st bill?

sclui56 said:
It is still a good deal, but why won't you have data charge for the 1st bill?
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I just got the first bill last week, there was no data charges or it doesn't have a data plan.
The equipment cost is not listed on the ATT contract and I think it only applies to Letstalk, Amazon and other retailers because they make commissions off the contract but that contract has to be valid for 6 months.

Free through the AT&T Premier Site
I got a fuze free with a new line of service and a 1yr aggreement. AT&T Premier offered the fuze free on Dec. 1 only.

cp1md2b said:
I got a fuze free with a new line of service and a 1yr aggreement. AT&T Premier offered the fuze free on Dec. 1 only.
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Same here, but 1 year agreement? wdf? how? I got 2 yr. Are you sure it's 1 year?

The deal is 2 years for the free Fuze
Kraize said:
Same here, but 1 year agreement? wdf? how? I got 2 yr. Are you sure it's 1 year?
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Same deal here. I had to reup for 2 years. I was out of contract on my old line so when I got the Fuze they tried to make me start a new line with a new number. After 2 days of arguing they finally transferred my old line/number to the new contract.

Me and my employees deal with this issue daily............for the record............ATT will charge you 175ETF First Bill and Act fee and small proration of days (if you keep >14days, Less than that only pay ETF and proration)................LETSTALK, Amazon and other authorized dealers (YES some agent locations do this) will charge you their own fees if desired, its in the agreement you sign WITH THEM........Further more, keep in mind Walmart.com prices include "LETSTALK MIR's" these also fall under the above additional charge clause.
PLEASE READ YOUR MIR AND SMALL PRINT WHEN YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING A DEAL. DON'T SCREW YOURSELF OVER LIKE MANY DO DAILY, I LIKE TO THINK READERS OF XDA ARE SMARTER THAN THAT

im mad because i work at BBY and i bought the fone the day before release then when i went home for thanksgiving break bb employees now can order through premier i coulda got the phone for 300 without a contract
but i dont mind my contract
20 a month. 2000 mins and unlimited everything else

@lbhocky19
Wanna hook me up with a few for $300?

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@lbhocky19
Wanna hook me up with a few for $300?
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Me too me too

sclui56 said:
It is still a good deal, but why won't you have data charge for the 1st bill?
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Call as soon as the line is activated and remove data plan (no term except on iphones).

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Price?

Well I have read numerous sources saying it will be 199.99 with 2 Year Contract.. Now I am seeing receipts for 149.99 with contract or 299.99 without contract. I truly want this phone and the 50$ wont stop me, but hey it is 50$ more dollars for apps and accessories. Does anyone know if they price was changed or if I should bring in a picture of the receipts to get a 50$ off or will I just end up paying 200$?
AT&T and Samsung posted on their twitter that it is $199 with a contract, and $350 without a contract.
I'm hoping it is $350, cause that's how much money i got for it! haha.
Yah, but how are people getting it for 300 or 150?
I have no idea. I haven't seen any receipts and such.
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/576/receiptn.jpg
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http://imgur.com/EYdsN.jpg
Now I'm jealous. I hope it is $300 but i'll settle for $350!
haha yah I mean, paying an extra 50 really won't stop me. But hey, thats 50$'s I can use on accessories etc
I guarantee that it's 349.99 without a contract and 199.99 with a 2 year contract.
The people that are getting 50 or 100 dollars off the prices of the phone is because of the AT&T upgrade advantage.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/upgrade-advantage.jsp
If the primary line on your account is over $100 then that line will be upgrade eligible every year.
I believe they have three ways of paying.
1. upgrade elligable its $199 with a 2 year contract and USE your elligability.
2. Not elligable for an upgrade its $350. with a 2 year extension on your contract but not using your future upgrade.
3. No contract $499.
I just called and thats what two local stores told me.
I was just told 500 off contract from an AT&T store.
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I believe they have three ways of paying.
1. upgrade elligable its $199 with a 2 year contract and USE your elligability.
2. Not elligable for an upgrade its $350. with a 2 year extension on your contract but not using your future upgrade.
3. No contract $499.
I just called and thats what two local stores told me.
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Woa, that'd be completely new for att. I've never seen any signs or ads anywhere for previous phones that describe option 2, always just 1 or 3 (renew your contract or just no contract pricing - no inbetween). If I'm wrong, I apologise, but I haven't heard of that before.
I called a store from one of the recepits that people have posted, and they told me that there was no way some of the pricing, nor sales have happened. I was told $500 dollars from a store that was $300.
I was also told $199 from a store that sold one for $149 and that I was reading the receipt wrong and instead of the "samsung i897" like the receipt says, it was really a 3gs 32 gb phone. Basically, I was told that I am an idiot and it wasn't really that price.
what the hell is going on?
Now I'm just more mad than anxious.
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Now I'm just more mad than anxious.
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I agree. This whole pricing war is becoming insane, not to mention differen't prices for different people is not right.
AllTheWay said:
I guarantee that it's 349.99 without a contract and 199.99 with a 2 year contract.
The people that are getting 50 or 100 dollars off the prices of the phone is because of the AT&T upgrade advantage.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/upgrade-advantage.jsp
If the primary line on your account is over $100 then that line will be upgrade eligible every year.
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That makes a lot more sense. So I think that actually clears up everything. Stores don't sell them at different prices, you may just be eligible for an additional discount. But I will still call several places when it is out to try to pick it up for 150$
So since my phone line is $150 a month, but i just upgraded last month, I am able to get this phone for $350 or $500?
wait... I want to get this phone but no data plan... as an att customer already which pricing would fit me
madjsp said:
So since my phone line is $150 a month, but i just upgraded last month, I am able to get this phone for $350 or $500?
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Honestly, I don't think think you are eligible for any of the 50 or 100$ off. Now I still haven't quite found out why some stores are charging 350 or 500 so I would simply suggest calling around.
Danni3 said:
wait... I want to get this phone but no data plan... as an att customer already which pricing would fit me
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Well I don't think you can purchase the phone without a data plan. Maybe off contract, but if you want the 2 year agreement price, you HAVE to get a data plan. As for the 50 and 100$ off, you NEED a 2 year agreement and that means you NEED a data plan.
Panduh said:
Honestly, I don't think think you are eligible for any of the 50 or 100$ off. Now I still haven't quite found out why some stores are charging 350 or 500 so I would simply suggest calling around.
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every retail store I've called is selling for 500 dollars, or they do not have any pricing information yet.

Bought phone on launch..

and paid 200 bucks.. think there is any way i can get att to give me a better deal since i can get it for free at walmart???
From what I read, the only way you can get it for free is if you sign up for an AT&T account that is way higher than standard.
I could be wrong though.
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
carporsche said:
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
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That's what I paid at BB in SoCal
Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?
That's how Apple does it too. They tax the highest price.
i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...
captivated said:
Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?
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Yes i was told it varies in different states. I was told tht if i wanted to buy an iphone the cost wudve been ($199 + $55 tax) for a 16GB phone.
Lucke said:
i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...
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The sales rep who processed my phone told me tht many times ppl aren't charged the tax while buying the phone but it reflects in the first bill and then they hav customers coming in and demanding explanations from them.
So better watch out for this in the first bill
carporsche said:
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
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Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.
abezapata said:
Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.
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I think you need to change ur signature now.. change status to "Obtained..."
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I just ordered it from Walmart as an upgrade on my plan.
They told me it has to be the primary phone if it's a family plan. The secondary lines aren't eligible for the free price. I had the old 550 minutes plan, which I had to change up to 700 minutes. After my discount thru work, it was $8 more than I pay now. Other than that, they told me I just have to maintain that plan for 6 months to avoid charged from them, and I'll get the phone for free.
I guess it could come back from AT&T as a "NO" when they check with them, but I checked 6 ways from Sunday with them and they said I was eligible for any upgrade.
Im in CA too, the tax is just crazy
but one way around it is to get your phone off amazon wireless, which doesnt have tax for CA (yet)
technically your supposed to report that in your taxes but no one does
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Yes you are right!!
I just ordered mine for $125 + $10tax . My contract expired abt an year ago and I never renewed it. When I called them regarding moving to T-Mobile (for Vibrant) they offered me $75 off + 100 extra minutes every month(I currently have 450 min). I am damn excited to get my first Androiiiiiid
The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart
floppy__ said:
The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart
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exactly what i did.. the guy at the att store told me to call and complain about he 30 restocking fee and they'll credit my account.. free phone will be here thursday!
If you buy it through Amazon wireless, you pay no tax in CA.
You could try bringing in a printout of the deal but as its been pointed out there are a lot of stipulations to get the fee price and you are agreeing that if you change your account they can charge you thee full retail price of the phone.
Ps I work for att
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[Q] Way to buy: Buy Tmo then cancel the contract or buy $520 directly?

Way to buy: Buy Tmo then cancel the contract or buy $520 directly?
ljwnow said:
Way to buy: Buy Tmo then cancel the contract or buy $520 directly?
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I remember people were trying this with the Nexus-1 when it first came out but Google would always end up charging you the full amount if you cancel
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Way to buy: Buy Tmo then cancel the contract or buy $520 directly?
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How much is the ETF for T-Mobile? I never really tried, then again I have been out of contract for a long time now, I always pay retail for my phones, ends up cheaper, atleast the way Tmobile does it
I saw it in Tmo's policy, it should be $200 ETF but I don't know if there is a catch in the policy for NEXUS S.
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How much is the ETF for T-Mobile?
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$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329) for a total of $729
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200 (etf)
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329 (full price for Nexus One)
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$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329)
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That sucks. I've already bought several handsets this year. It seems that I will pay another some $500....BROKE!!!!!!!!!
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$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329) for a total of $729
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I wouldnt test it if i where you, but if you do you can let the people know how it worked out for you
But i will be there with my 575 dollars
ap3604 said:
$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329) for a total of $729
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That is definately a disaster!
slowz3r said:
I wouldnt test it if i where you, but if you do you can let the people know how it worked out for you
But i will be there with my 575 dollars
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Tax in KY is 6%. But a good thing is there are not so many people in my city! So I am not worrying about "Sold Out".
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Tax in KY is 6%. But a good thing is there are not so many people in my city! So I am not worrying about "Sold Out".
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I just posted a thread about what you think the supply/demand will be..im thinking the demand will be low for the "normal" user but the supply scares me
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I just posted a thread about what you think the supply/demand will be..im thinking the demand will be low for the "normal" user but the supply scares me
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Lol I just wrote something under your thread...
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Lol I just wrote something under your thread...
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i just replied to what your wrote under my thread.
okay ill stop
Well ive been thinking about this too because i got my nexus one for $212 no contract!
199 + tax
Cancelled t mobile during 14 day grace period $0
Google never set up the etf to charge people, $0
And the most they could have charged was $150 for the etf, so it only equals around $350
BUT is it set up for the nexus S?
Either way im sure you could save a few hundred, im adding a line to my plan i think and doing this!
Best Buy doesn't have their own ETF so why not add a line, then cancel it?
hah2110 said:
Best Buy doesn't have their own ETF so why not add a line, then cancel it?
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Adding a line would be done through Tmobile. So once you add a line, canceling it would require you to do it by going through Tmobile. In a sense, Best Buy can be thought of as a Tmobile retailer, if that makes it easier. They aren't the actually phone service themselves that can create/cancel lines.
@Sassyness, if you canceled your contract during the remorse period, how was it that they didn't ask for the Nexus One back?
Does anyonoe know if you have to get a data plan with the Nexus S if you purchase it with a contract?
If so, can that data plan ever be canceled later on by calling Tmobile? For example, let's say I wanted to get the Nexus S as a gift, but wanted to save some money. I have a line on my family plan eligible for upgrade, and say I upgrade it with that line, get a data plan, but I give the Nexus S as a gift to someone who will use their own data plan... can I cancel the data plan that I had to purchase on my line which I upgraded with?
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Does anyonoe know if you have to get a data plan with the Nexus S if you purchase it with a contract?
If so, can that data plan ever be canceled later on by calling Tmobile? For example, let's say I wanted to get the Nexus S as a gift, but wanted to save some money. I have a line on my family plan eligible for upgrade, and say I upgrade it with that line, get a data plan, but I give the Nexus S as a gift to someone who will use their own data plan... can I cancel the data plan that I had to purchase on my line which I upgraded with?
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I believe so yes. Tmobile is really friendly with account changes
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Adding a line would be done through Tmobile. So once you add a line, canceling it would require you to do it by going through Tmobile. In a sense, Best Buy can be thought of as a Tmobile retailer, if that makes it easier. They aren't the actually phone service themselves that can create/cancel lines.
@Sassyness, if you canceled your contract during the remorse period, how was it that they didn't ask for the Nexus One back?
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Well t mobile CANT ask for it back, its not their device.
Leaving google themselves responsible for getting the phone back or charging a fee.
But does bestbuy have a fee or an equipment recovery fee with the NexS? Or is it on googles shoulders again? I need to know
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Well t mobile CANT ask for it back, its not their device.
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Right, you are.
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Well ive been thinking about this too because i got my nexus one for $212 no contract!
199 + tax
Cancelled t mobile during 14 day grace period $0
Google never set up the etf to charge people, $0
And the most they could have charged was $150 for the etf, so it only equals around $350
BUT is it set up for the nexus S?
Either way im sure you could save a few hundred, im adding a line to my plan i think and doing this!
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I was wondering about all the people scamming earlier last years. Wow, I'm surprised google didn't charge you the difference.

Want to get a phone for development, but have a question.

Hi Guys,
I've been trying to get a phone for development for around 250ish but havn't been successful. Well, it seems my chance might be comming up since T-Mobile is having a Free Smart Phone sale this weekend.
My plan is to go buy the phone, use it for 16 days and cancel my contract. If everything's done fair, it should cost $200 + 16 days of service + any taxes/activation fees.
So I have a few questions.
1) Has anyone done this before? Where there any suprises?
2) Is WP7 functional with Wifi? (i.e. marketplace, games, internet, etc).
3) Think I'll still be able to get updates or what not?
4) Anything else I should be looking for?
Thanks!
A bill from t-mobile for full price of the phone.
I don't get it, you want to develop for 16 days?
vetvito said:
A bill from t-mobile for full price of the phone.
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From experience?
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I don't get it, you want to develop for 16 days?
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Umm, no, T-Mobile requires you return hardware when you cancel your contract within 15 days. But they don't charge a fee.
If you keep the phone, that whole special goes out the window. Read the contract. They will charge you full price.
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Umm, no, T-Mobile requires you return hardware when you cancel your contract within 15 days. But they don't charge a fee.
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don't they charge an ETF when you sign a contract and cancel it after 16 days?
orangekid said:
don't they charge an ETF when you sign a contract and cancel it after 16 days?
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No, they don't charge an etf if you cancel and return everything before the 15th day.
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No, they don't charge an etf if you cancel and return everything before the 15th day.
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ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
orangekid said:
ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
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looks like the op is trying to get the phone for just the subsidized price... then kill contract, and not owe tmo money. good luck, not going to happen. they'll bill for the difference.
orangekid said:
ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
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No... I'm trying to get a WP7 phone to develop with. But I don't have the 600 bucks to buy if "off contract".
So, if I enter a contract, get the phone discounted for FREE this weekend, then "Terminate" the contract a month later, I have to pay the $200 ETF + the month bill + taxes which would be significantly less than the 600 bucks off contract.
Once I terminate the contract, I have no obligation on returning the device, I was asking to see what the outcome would be. T-Mobile online rep blantly said, I'd be responsible for the ETF + Monthly Fee + Taxes, but god knows if they are right, I wanted to see if anyone else tried this.
cohowap said:
No... I'm trying to get a WP7 phone to develop with. But I don't have the 600 bucks to buy if "off contract".
So, if I enter a contract, get the phone discounted for FREE this weekend, then "Terminate" the contract a month later, I have to pay the $200 ETF + the month bill + taxes which would be significantly less than the 600 bucks off contract.
Once I terminate the contract, I have no obligation on returning the device, I was asking to see what the outcome would be. T-Mobile online rep blantly said, I'd be responsible for the ETF + Monthly Fee + Taxes, but god knows if they are right, I wanted to see if anyone else tried this.
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I see, let's take a look though.
$200 ETF
$80 monthly fee (cheapest monthly price you can get on WP7 with tmobile)
$35 activation fee
$35 (approx.) taxes and fees
$350 total for the phone.
not sure where you live but here you could get it for something like this:
http://houston.craigslist.org/mob/2205022524.html
or
http://houston.craigslist.org/mob/2202253067.html
of course there are people asking fro $400 but I can guarantee they will not get near that money for this phone.
If you really want to try what you're talking about then go for it, it seems like it would work, but:
1) they may have a stipulation where you cannot cancel your contract for X months due to the "free" phone or you owe the difference, I'd check the fine print on that one.
2) seems like too much work and drama.
retail for an HD7 on tmobile is $500,
This is why Verizon & att (real carriers in the usa) have $350+ ETFs.
watch for mail in rebate that will void if your contract is expired before xx days
orangekid pointed out the actual higher cost though. You might want to check ATT price for a Focus off-contract i've heard can be had for $399 but ymmv. better phone and more coverage if you ever needed to use it as a phone later.
The phone will be fully functional (on wifi) but sim locked to the carrier.
gcianc said:
This is why Verizon & att (real carriers in the usa) have $350+ ETFs.
watch for mail in rebate that will void if your contract is expired before xx days
orangekid pointed out the actual higher cost though. You might want to check ATT price for a Focus off-contract i've heard can be had for $399 but ymmv. better phone and more coverage if you ever needed to use it as a phone later.
The phone will be fully functional (on wifi) but sim locked to the carrier.
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I don't know what you mean by "real carrier" @ att, since in my city they drop more calls than tmobile ever does even though they probably have more subscribers. ATT's monthly rates (as verizon's) are insanely high too, and they have tiered data, whereas tmobile does not.
off contract they usually give you the sim unlock code, but on contract they generally don't from my experience.
Ugh 2 pages and no answer. The answer to your question is this.
1. You don't need an actual phone to develop apps. The development tool package comes with a simulator.
2. You cannot install apps you are developing on the phone without having it being flagged for development. This process costs 99$ a year and requires you send some identification data to the company that verifies your identity.
So buying a phone for 16 days is pointless. Even if you had the phone you couldn't put any apps on it without paying Microsoft 99$. Personally I would use the simulator to learn how to develop an app, develop one and then buy the phone when you're ready to release. The advantage here is obviously newer better phones in the future compared to right now.
hope that helps
very good points, I figured since OP is trying to scratch, claw, gamble, and steal his way to get the phone, he was just going to use Chevron on it instead of dropping $99 on the fee.

T-Mobile vs Amazon vs Wirefly for Upgrades (Tried all 3)

T-Mobile.com:
+ Can keep your plan
- $325 ridiculous up-front cost ($250 + $50 tax + $18 Upgrade Fee + $6 Shipping) (See attached screenshots)
- $50 Mail-In Rebate hassle
- $50 SENSATION50 promo code box doesn't appear for upgrades, wtf??
Amazon:
+ $179.99, No Tax
+ Free 2-Day Shipping
- $35 Activation Fee
- Can't keep your current plan at all, you MUST choose from the new plans
Wirefly:
+ $179.99, No Tax
+ Free FedEx Shipping
- $18 Activation Fee
? There is a "Keep My Plan" option available but what plan options does it keep if forced to choose a new data plan anyway??
Is there a less expensive way to go about it?
And what the heck is this "Activation Fee" if my account is already active, and why is it more expensive on Amazon?
(See attached pictures)
The activation fee is a joke. T-Mobile has to do zero work to get the phone to work on their network. All we need to do is move a sim from one phone into the other. I wonder if they'll waive the fee if you call t-mo?
I got mine from letstalk for $149.99 with free overnight shipping.
But I am a new customer.
brian85 said:
I got mine from letstalk for $149.99 with free overnight shipping.
But I am a new customer.
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$249 for existing customers
Wow that sucks.
Let'stalk even paid for the california taxes (which would be $50 since smartphones are taxed the full price of the phone in california), so I only paid a total of $149. Seemed like an awesome deal to me.
You cant go wrong with costco... 199 after rebate, you keep your plan and you can exchange the phone for a new one in the next 90 days.
Got my g2x and after me being very disappointed with it - swaped for the sensation.
Plus, they will match the price if it ever goes down (got my g2x for 200 and got 100 back when they started offering the phone for 99)
So id say -costco has the best deals on cell phones. Ever. And to think that I used to get phones from amazon before....
Good luck in your search!
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You cant go wrong with costco... 199 after rebate, you keep your plan and you can exchange the phone for a new one in the next 90 days.
Got my g2x and after me being very disappointed with it - swaped for the sensation.
Plus, they will match the price if it ever goes down (got my g2x for 200 and got 100 back when they started offering the phone for 99)
So id say -costco has the best deals on cell phones. Ever. And to think that I used to get phones from amazon before....
Good luck in your search!
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So let's say you bought a HTC Sensation at full retail price, you can return it within 90days no charge?
I wonder if you accidently bricked your phone.. I wonder if they will let you return/exchange it within 90days.
t0ny0 said:
You cant go wrong with costco... 199 after rebate, you keep your plan and you can exchange the phone for a new one in the next 90 days.
Got my g2x and after me being very disappointed with it - swaped for the sensation.
Plus, they will match the price if it ever goes down (got my g2x for 200 and got 100 back when they started offering the phone for 99)
So id say -costco has the best deals on cell phones. Ever. And to think that I used to get phones from amazon before....
Good luck in your search!
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Unfortunately, they force you into the 5 GB plan no matter what, even if you keep your plan:
And they do charge tax too
And they charge the $18 upgrade fee too (see bottom of picture). They just don't add it to the final price.
So it ends up being almost as much as T-Mobile for a total of $315 (free shipping though at least)
Wait, the SENSATION50 promo code doesn't work for upgrades? What the hell?
The $50 “SENSATION50” discount code is valid for new customers, new 2-yr agreements, or for add a line. http://goo.gl/3Jxa1 (Web Only Offer)
http://twitter.com/TMobile/status/81023766955687937
Isn't a new two year agreement an upgrade?
aNYthing24 said:
Wait, the SENSATION50 promo code doesn't work for upgrades? What the hell?
The $50 “SENSATION50” discount code is valid for new customers, new 2-yr agreements, or for add a line. http://goo.gl/3Jxa1 (Web Only Offer)
http://twitter.com/TMobile/status/81023766955687937
Isn't a new two year agreement an upgrade?
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The box to put the promo code in just doesn't appear.
It's simply just not there.
So maybe the promo works for upgrades, but you can't actually enter it.
Perhaps someone at T-Mobile forgot about that box?
Walmart! $148.88 + 18 upgrade fee + tax. Keep your plan, no MIR.
Good luck.
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Walmart! $148.88 + 18 upgrade fee + tax. Keep your plan, no MIR.
Good luck.
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But you mean for new customers only though, right?
Paul22000 said:
Unfortunately, they force you into the 5 GB plan no matter what, even if you keep your plan:
And they do charge tax too
And they charge the $18 upgrade fee too (see bottom of picture). They just don't add it to the final price.
So it ends up being almost as much as T-Mobile for a total of $315 (free shipping though at least)
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Ummm... I kept my unlimited Data plan... I just called in to make sure, and Yes - my unlimited Data is still active!
Try your local Costco, its different when you deal with a live person. They tried to sell me the 5GB, but they couldnt. I said that that would be the day that i move to ATT, cause thats the only thing keeping me with tmobile, since their signal at my house is just... missing in action
So try the local store, they can work with you better than the website.
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Ummm... I kept my unlimited Data plan... I just called in to make sure, and Yes - my unlimited Data is still active!
Try your local Costco, its different when you deal with a live person. They tried to sell me the 5GB, but they couldnt. I said that that would be the day that i move to ATT, cause thats the only thing keeping me with tmobile, since their signal at my house is just... missing in action
So try the local store, they can work with you better than the website.
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Thanks. Did they charge you tax?
no the walmart deal applies to upgrades as well
i got it for 159 total last week
Alpha Class said:
no the walmart deal applies to upgrades as well
i got it for 159 total last week
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I think the 149 upgrade price expired yesterday.
I asked T-Mobile about the promotion and the rep didn't seem to have a clue about it...
~Tracy W: I am not finding anything in regards to a promotion code, what I would recommend is calling our sales department at 1-800-672-5390
I asked a rep from Amazon and they said that you can keep your $10 data plan and you don't actually need the $30 one.. you can switch it at any time.
Also, I think you clicked 'new plan' instead of existing plan, I get a different checkout page.. see attachment
Hey Paul you should try checking craigslist. I got mine brand new for $365 yesterday. Might be worth a shot instead of paying up to 325 and having to use your upgrade.
Nope, got mine using my full upgrade today for 148.88 + tax at walmart. but the deal only works I'm store though I think.
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