i am a wm5 newbie...
til now i dun understand wat is the difference between them?
got 92 ram wif 32 ramdisk....128 ram ...64/64...
can somebody explain to me??...thx
another question i wanna ask...
after i install a 64 mb ram disk WM5...
the ram disk becomes my storage...
but my original storage which is a ROM and the extended_ROM are lost..
why???
this explanation is basically for the xda2 with wm5. the device has 128mb of ram which is very fast but looses all data when power is gone. all programs are running in ram (this is not only for xda2 but for all ppc devices even wm5 devices). since 128mb of ram is normally much more than programs need you can use a ram-disk driver which turns a certain amount of ram into a drive where you can store your data like on a hard disk or usb-stick or whatever media. the size of the ram-disk decreases your available ram for running programs i.e.:
128mb total ram available
32mb ram-disk equals in 128 minus 32 = 96mb available ram for running programs.
i hope this helps you to get an understanding of the different wm5 rom-version for xda2.
best regards
peter
ramdisk act as a harddisk in a computer apart it would loose all data if all power was removed from it
ram act as ram in a pc programs use it for temp storage it's released when programs close
thx thx for answering
another question i wanna ask...
after i install a 64 mb ram disk wm5...
the ram disk becomes my storage...
but my original storage which is a ROM and the extended_ROM are lost..
why???
i have no idea and i do not know what you mean by "installing ramdisk 64". does it mean you only have installed a cab-file containing driver and registry-settings for a 64mb ramdisk or do you flashed a complete rom with 64mb ramdisk?
regards
peter
i flashed a complete rom with 64mb ramdisk....
i just dun understand with tat....
just for another clarification: when you flash this rom with 64mb ramdisk and restart your device, what is then the exact name of your ramdisk? is it "Storage" or "RamDisk" or "ExtROM"? this info helps solving your problem.
regards
peter
my ramdisk's name after flashed become storage.....
then i duno where is the original storage and also the extended rom
cos i cannot find them in file explorer....
izizit there are not available in wm5??
hello hys_y2k,
for getting back your extended rom you have to use an extended rom unlocker for your device. this is a cab-file to install. you can find it here. then after a soft reset your device should show you another "drive" called "ExtROM" or similar name. so at the moment your extended rom is not gone it is hidden only. if you own a himalaya (xda2, mda2, qtek 9090 etc) and like to use wm5 in the future not only for testing but as your standard operating system, i suggest to reformat the disk-on-chip by a special tool (if you do not have it done already). you can found it here at xda-developers or at buzzdev.net. this tool merges your main memory with the extended rom. the result: you have no longer an extended rom but you now have more main memory which is essential for reasonable using himalaya under wm5.
best regards
peter
Peter,
thx for ur explanation...i get more understand to my wm5 based xda2...
but how come i could not find the 15 mb storage rom in wm5 but it was in my previous wm2003??....
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thx ,Thomas....
my last question,
the wm 5 does not need extend_rom?
izzit all the operator & manafacturer cabs in the os rom??
...
There is not enough space for those cabs/ExtROM. You need to store it on a different place. Anyway how many of the default cabs are you using? I and not only I,are using absolutely nothing from those.
OK for theory by TomasNM but...practice is different.
I used Ramdisk tools and i had a partition called Ramdisk power depending (HR reset cleared it).
But when I reflashed with TofClock 2.00aWWE64 i had a patition called Flash Disk (not Ramdisk) ant it was NOT power depending: after HR I had the file stored in Flash disk integer.
I'm very happy of this but how this can be possible?
...
It's not so as you have described. The RAMdisk as a virtual drive is in a fact a part of RAM. That means:1.it is power-dependent(without power you will lose all data). 2.is untouched by hard reset. Hard reset in WM5! makes 2 things(cleans registry hive and formats storage). This format storage procedure formats only! the DOC. The RAM isn't affected and therefore the data remains untouched. But not all data. Only that data will be wiped out by soft(and therefore also by hard) reset,that are in program memory(RAM block addressed in ROM image). If the addresses and sizes described in ROM image and in registry are correct,the RAMdisk will keep all its data after reset,because is off the DOC formatting and wiping data from RAM by reset. This is the problem,which you had-Bad addressing and all data was wiped out. And the name of the folder "Flash disk"(before it was "RAMdisk" or "Storage") is only a string value in registry and you can change that,as you want. Yes here is a mistake made by TofClock: The Flash memory type is FlashROM,that is power independent(as a Storage Card-keeps its data without battery). This virtual drive is made from RAM,that is power-dependent! Thereforore I am using everytime the name RAMdisk,which is closest to its properties. Yes it seems to be independent,but don't forget for backup battery,which keeps the data in RAMdisk alive for a while when is main battery empty/removed! You can try to put some file/s into this drive and remove main battery so long,until the backup battery will be empty. Then all your data will be lost. This is the power dependency,that I am talking about. Any confusions yet?
@TomasNM
Many thanks for the perfect explanation. It is everything clearest now. :wink:
Related
i use this tutorial to try porting linux to my dopod 577w upgrade to WM6.
http://vivien.chappelier.free.fr/typhoon/index.html
i try boot from EOL (press camera button and power button) and boot Haret directly from my sd card but the result is the same. I got blank white screen .
Anyone can help me??
p/s sorry for my bad english.
Never tried it. But while reading the documentation I've found this:
Important Note: there is a glitch with the USB gadget driver for now, so you _have_ to boot with the phone plugged to a PC using the USB cable, otherwise the kernel will panic.
Did you try this?
EDIT: OK. I tried it and it does not work on my Tornado either! I used both 0.4.7 and 0.4.8 versions of HaRET for booting from within WM6. Maybe there are some Tornado specific option to be set in default.txt (RAM size or RAM address).
NiTroGenious said:
Never tried it. But while reading the documentation I've found this:
Important Note: there is a glitch with the USB gadget driver for now, so you _have_ to boot with the phone plugged to a PC using the USB cable, otherwise the kernel will panic.
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I already try this both with my xp machine and linux box. Same result boot and i get white blank screen.
I try used old image tux logo appear and then they ask to push enter. Which button represent enter??
There is a guide for running linux on Tornado at WCE.BY forum. I don't speak russian, but I translated it using an online translator:
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The needed files can be found here:
http://linuxtogo.org/~law/htctornado/gpephone/images/20070802/
http://rapidshare.com/files/57929506/haret-20070816b.exe
Instructions:
Create a second partition on the memory card, about 64-100MB, and format it as Ext2/3.
Unpack Angstrom-gpephone-image-glibc-test-20070802-htctornado.rootfs.tar.bz2 on this partition.
On the FAT partition place zImage-2.6.16.16-htctornado-20070502071325, haret-20070816b.exe and default.txt.
After placing the memory card back at the phone, run haret, select default.txt and press Run.
OS booting should start and finally you should see the GUI. There may be an issue with date set dialog at first boot, but the author doesn't remember exactly.
Also, if USB cable is attached and network is set up when booting, you can login to your phone by SSH. Details are in default.txt. The author doesn't know how to do it in Windows.
Well, I did not try it because I don't know how to create a Ext2/3 partition from within Windows. Thanks to ega2oo2 for helping with the translation.
NiTroGenious said:
5. - 6. OK!!! I couldn't translate those 2 steps!!! Help, please...
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5. OS booting should start and finally you should see the GUI. There may be an issue with date set dialog at first boot, but the author doesn't remember exactly.
6. Also, if USB cable is attached and network is set up when booting, you can login to your phone by SSH. Details are in default.txt. The author doesn't know how to do it in Windows.
The author has written this guide from the scratch, and may have missed some details.
My 2 cents
Any hint on uncompressing the .tar.bz2 file to the ext2/3 partition from withing Windows???
I try it but dont work...when kernel boot stoped with notice:
"VFS: No root yet, retrying to mount root on mmcblk0p2(unknown-block(0,0))"
Please append a correct "root"= boot option
Kernel panic - not syncings: VPS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown -block(0,0)
http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html
for creating ext2 partitions under windows
you can extract .bz2 archive with winrar www.rarsoft.com
i succesfully created
first 256 mb fat partition on the sd
second 220 mb ext partition on the sd
using the smartphone and wm5 storage
(goide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-267475.html)
i uncomressed the bz2 file to ext2 partition
i copied the required files to the fat partition
rebooted the phone
now the phone is frosen after 'freeing 100 kb" mesage
i will try to debug
did somebody have the same mesage ????
HTCUNI_ROM_WWE_Q3
Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional 192DPI WWE 20757
Please read whole message before install!
ONLY FOR G3!
Please don't ask about G4 support.
Installation
1. You must connect your device to AC power source.
2. Your device must be full charged.
3. Run ROMUpgradeUt.exe
4. After, you must NOT do hardrese.
5. Don't do anything with your device while it's booting, until you see Welcome screen
6. Now you can do everything.
If you have problems, try to reflash rom.
During first boot you can see artifacts on screen. Don't worry.
Uninstallation
1. You should able to use MTTY program for uninstallation.
2. Go to bootloader (Power + Lamp + Reset)
3. Run commands:
Code:
task 32
task 28 55aa
4. Wait
5. Now you should reflash original WM50 rom.
6. Now you can install something else if you want.
Description
1. New IE60Mobile.
2. 64 and 128 RAM support.
3. If you have 64 RAM, PagePool size is 6 MBytes.
4. If you have 128 RAM, PagePool size is unlimited.
5. NETCF20
6. WLM, PowerPoint, SQLCEMobile, MMS deleted.
7. ROM is working only on G3 devices. Don't install it on G4!
8. No ExtRom. Please don't try to unlock it and etc
9. No Flash Disk
10. Rom haven't any additional applications (Except HTC ones)
11. WM61 CommManager.
12. 50 levels of brightness.
13. BlueTheme
Screenshots
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If you don't like WM61 touch flo, you can disable it:
Code:
[HKCU\ControlPanel\Gestures\Touch]
Disabled=dword:1
If you need additional applications like keyboards, TF2D, CommManagers you can install it by hands.
If you have comments/bugreports/problems fill free to post it in this thread.
Downloads
http://www.rapidspread.com/file.jsp?id=rf2lfpapbr
please don't reupload files - let it be only here.
For other developers: please don't use parts of my work without permit. I spend a LOT OF time for my 'features'
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Great work!!!!!
Great work!!!
This is a big storage version ?!?
good to see more cooks im downloading now to try later and ill update my post with results!
Cotulla, glad to see you here!
4 post reserved make my hope for G4 version keep alive!
Best regards!
downloading, feedback later
about this rom
really fast and stable. nothing is missing .
i have small troubles with Wi-Fi but possible from my Device.Still testing.
Good work
Greetings
on RUS forums people have small problems with long connection WiFi time...
do you have also this issue?
i have ran into no wifi issues or any other issues, this rom allowed me to customize more because of all the wonderful extra space great job my uni is running like a lightning bolt!
new rom
i reinstalled just to be sure about this WI FI issue, and have it as you say - long time connecting (sometime not connecting at all). then i try some other rom and WIFI its working fine on my Device ,so the issue must be in the rom.
Otherwise - really great.
Спасибо болшое
Приветствие из Болгарии
No sdhc-support
Nice rom.
No sdhc support.
I'm amazed by the memory screenshot... that's a lot of storage memory more than conventional ROMs... but I'm a bit worried about the program's RAM, on a 64Mb device it would be only around 20Mb or less just after boot... am I right?
jfcc58 said:
Nice rom.
No sdhc support.
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Yes it's supported. My SD16Gb run well.
My question : The first boot it's strange... It's possible to explain the process.
And my Activesync not work.
Thanks
Screen
Please someone paste more screen shots....Thanks...
You added normal storage + Flash Disk + Storage and made it all one big storage, that is a good Idea, i don't know how this memories work but all rom developers should do this.
No sdhc support.
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Hmmm....my SDHC cards are working...
honestly there another small problem (with-low-power-disable-sd-card), it will be fixed in next release.
And my Activesync not work.
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it should work... do you have installed AS45?
but I'm a bit worried about the program's RAM, on a 64Mb device it would be only around 20Mb or less just after boot... am I right?
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no. On 128 MB you have unlimited page pool, so system take more memory, but work faster.
On 64 MB 6 mbytes PagePool used, so you should have more than 20 MBytes of memery.
Please someone paste more screen shots....Thanks...
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what you want to see....
ok, i'll give it a try then...
do the pagepool setting is automated or I have to change it by myself before flashing?
Can anybody share a 1G data.img? I am not familiar with linux but I want more space on my polaris.
regards
EDIT: the solution here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741383
Code:
This can be done with any data.img... even existing one one.
Boot phone in windows mobile. attach to linux box(linux computer or live cd) in disk mode(when u attach hd2 to computer it will ask mode,select disk mode).
go to terminal.
go to the /media
then go to the directory which represents your hd2 phone, then to [B]andboot [/B]directory.
then enter following commands
e2fsck -f data.img
(if it asks to fix say y)
resize2fs -p data.img 512000
(this is for half gb, change it as per requirement)
e2fsck -f data.img
Then reboot the phone.
You may see green screen. if so, simply reboot again.
works like a charm.
no need to download huge file. can be done with a used data.img at any time and any number of times.
Last edited by bhaveshdj; 1st August 2010 at 03:43 PM. Reason: to give more info
You need to install ubuntu first / You do not need any partitions
Install normally first, system to NAND and data to data.img
Remove the card from the phone
Move the card to the phone and reboot
You are done.
Storage shows 2,36 G for me now (2,13 G free after installing 60 programs), and I still have 11,55G for music, maps and so on !
kk last kernel + incubus26jc's RLS14
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Note: do not ask me to share it because it constains all personal configuration and I do not know yet how to clean it.
Now the question is: when I want to update to next release, what do I have to do? install data to data.img and resize it again? or I can overwrite with my old&big data.img file?
you can create it using boot script generator (select the size)
ok I thought your tool required the nbh posted in your thread.
I have created the sh file but before I flash may be you can help me:
1. What I want to do is to install all apps to my 16g sd. Typically in windows mobile I keep 6g in music, 4g in onroad and offroad navigators and maps 1g on installed apps and 2g on non installed apps.
2. After quite a lot of reading, I do not understand which options do I have with incubus26jc's froyo 2.2. for pola100: apps2sd? dataimg? ext2 partition? linux swap on a third partition?
3. Your tool can help creating partitions? does it exist an easy way to create partitions from windows with no linux and no money?
4. Which set-up would you recommend to me data.img or ext2? I like it fast boot and fast performance so I am trying nand install.
5. I can not flash from the sdcard so I flash the nbh from windows and leave the rar file in andboot. If I leave your sh in andboot will it work?
6. If I do not use the script generated by your app and resize data.img manually will I have to do it everytime I try a new ROM?
thanks so much for your help so far.
new nbh has all you need to make it works inside.
i'm writing a new tool to partition sd card but is in alpha version and i need dzo release my file...
Well it seems not easy to me:
I stick to Kakt_Kaffe kernel + incubus rls 14 since i have wifi and camera with no probs. I have installed ubuntu and formated the sd card with fat32,ext and lynux-swap but I can not install data to the partition. sigh
I have also tried with the same kernel your script and I does not boot.
I will try to resize my data.img in ubunto (reinstalling now because I rebooted ubuntu without noticing it was downloading a system uptade)
If you need beta testers for the sd partitioner I can do some testing.
Solution in first post.
Now the question is: when I want to update to next release, what do I have to do? install data to data.img and resize it again? or I can overwrite with my old&big data.img file?
I don't understand this.
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(IMG tag doesn't seem to work so see this link instead) https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...9bQ3HKvY/s800/possible%20Android%20bug-01.png
If you look at the image above, my sgy-data (fat32) partition totals 843.8MB but the system reports 928.4MB used. Where did the 84.6MB go? Now that's ignorable…
But for my sgy-ext (ext3) partition that is linkd with link2sd, the total size of all the files is 246.7MB but the system reports 686.6MB used. A total of 439.9MB is missing! And that is not ignorable anymore.
In fact, if you look at the second image, according to link2sd, my sgy-ext partition is using up 601MB (as compared to 686.6MB reported by Linux, a difference of 85.6MB still in the range of 'ignorable' missing space).
(IMG tag doesn't seem to work so see this link instead) https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...Kh4pphYo/s800/possible%20Android%20bug-02.png
My questions are:
1) What's happening? and Why?
2) What's with Android OS as compared to Linux? Or putting it another way, why can't Linux see what Android 'supposedly' sees? Assuming that Android is seeing something that Linux can't, which could explain the missing MBs.
3) If it isn't normal at all, what is the best way to reclaim those missing MBs without resetting and starting from scratch? This is like the last resort if all else fails (although I don't mind since for some weird reason, everytime I plug-in my SGY to Linux, it reboots automatically).
Other info:
1) Using stock ROM
2) Using LA1
3) Samsung Galaxy Y
4) Rooted
5) I use Link2SD
6) regular SD card partition is FAT32
7) SD card partition for Link2SD is ext3
8) and a little bit of story, see next:
I rebooted after installing an app yesterday, and for some weird reason all of the installed apps that exists in Link2SD partition disappeared even though the said partition was mounted properly. I checked Link2SD and yes, it was mounted at boot, Link2SD can read the said partition. However, this is where it starts to get weird - Link2SD can not see any of the apps.
When I check the storage via Link2SD's, it reports that I have "used" space in the partition. True enough, the apps were not deleted, it was just that, Link2SD or maybe the phone itself failed to read those apps. Could this be a Link2SD bug and not Android related?
I tried rebooting, remounting, soft restart, all to no avail. I ended up reinstalling everything. Then trying the relink lib and relink cache. Some successfully relinked, the rest did not.
Then rebooted to see if anything changed. Works fine. However nothing changed. Finally I cleared the "trash", those files that lost its connection to its respective apps (via Link2SD's options). Nope nothing, because as Link2SD reported, these trash files have a total of 0kB! All empty files.
I rebooted once more. And then the problem repeated again. Then I rebooted again, and the problem stopped… finally.
However, the missing space are still there.
As you can see in my screenshots above, I have "all hidden files shown" enabled. The total size of all files is too low compared to the "used" size, which I can not reconcile anyway I looked at it.
And that's where I need help or an explanation… Android, Link2SD, possible bug?
Or is this another case of base-10 and base-2 space naming? My Linux OS uses base-10, is Android and Link2SD using base-2? (ie MB vs. MiB)
Thank you very much.
Same Problem have you found a solution?
I am having this same problem now... except I'm missing 1.90GB after a botched install and i know it's there on the sd cause link2sd is showing that it's being used even though I haven't linked anything to it yet after a fresh install of everything even wiping my sd and recreating the fat32 and the ext2 the missing GB are still gone.
Has anyone figured out what is happening or how we can get it back?
Why share it :
I wrote this for my own MediaTek device because there were no EBR with 32GB internal storage nor there is any tool to achieve the goal.
How it works :
The program is simple as entering how much of space you need in your internal storage. The tool also let you know current size of your EBR partition size.
Why no full tutorial :
If you didn't know, there is also some tutorial on this forum to replace your EBR files. That's why I'm not discussing more off-topic.
Ok, I'm willing to use this tool :
Download and unzip the attachment and COPY your original EBR1/EBR2 files inside program folder and then start it.
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I've had to edit EBR files on my old MTK phone, I just got another a couple of weeks ago. Old phone had phone 4GB phone memory, .99GB (internal storag) allocated for apps and the remaining was called phone storage. I was able to get 2.5GB to work on the 4GB phone. Funny thing, new phone is supposed to have 16GB phone memory, it also came with a very same space for apps, only .99 or .98 GB. I was able to experiment using your script, I was initially tried 12GB, everything seemed to sync up okay, but then after one day, services started to stop. I went back to 6GB and everything seems okay. One curious thing with my new phone, if I define 6GB or 12GB for the internal storage, the phone storage never changes. The phone is Cubot S308 with MTK6582 processor.
New revision EBR-Editor 1.0a
Small improvements
- Small comsetic changes
- Overwrite backup file by default
https://mega.co.nz/#!PAATzCwC!kBhIFpyTjwMlMecOYfVPsjghEGbVw0E_GRy3EYhsHts
bovirus said:
New revision EBR-Editor 1.0a
Small improvements
- Small comsetic changes
- Overwrite backup file by default
https://mega.co.nz/#!PAATzCwC!kBhIFpyTjwMlMecOYfVPsjghEGbVw0E_GRy3EYhsHts
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No more manual resizing!! Thanks bro :highfive:
Any way to resize the system partiton? Also your tool shows my current storage is 1gb, which is false, its actually 2gb. Whats up with that?
@-iHackerz-
Wht do you need to resize system partition?
Thank you very much
A million thanks for you...
I searched all over the internet for repartitioning my A210 and ended up in softbricking it...
I just thought I would end up being a noob....
With your EBR editor and a little knowledge about SP Flash Tools, I just achieved 7.37GB (created as 7.5GB using your editor and was 2.5GB before) of apps storage and 5.01GB of Internal Storage from my 16GB internal storage.
I already own a 32GB SD and so there is no space problem for me now.
I don't have any more words to thank you.
I really never thought that i could do this in a day.:angel:
bovirus said:
New revision EBR-Editor 1.0a
Small improvements
- Small comsetic changes
- Overwrite backup file by default
https://mega.co.nz/#!PAATzCwC!kBhIFpyTjwMlMecOYfVPsjghEGbVw0E_GRy3EYhsHts
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Link is dead. Can you reupload?
I suggest a (newer & more powerfull) alternative
EBR Changer by becar - http://www.needrom.com/download/ebr-changer/
-iHackerz- said:
Any way to resize the system partiton? Also your tool shows my current storage is 1gb, which is false, its actually 2gb. Whats up with that?
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To resize ur system partition u need flash any rom whith SpFlash Tool, modding the sccater.txt file
is the same for recovery, boot, cache, data partitions etc