Hi all, I know about SKTools comes with "Free Up RAM" but I just want "Free Up RAM". SKTools seems to mess my device up (Dopod 818Pro).
Any ideas???
Thanks all!!
voyager
MemMaid and SpaceReclaimer both support WM5.0.
Hi Leek, Thanks for the info, however neither of these is what I'm looking for (or at least I think I'm not looking for them). SKTools has a "Free Up RAM" one button operation that literally kills RAM sucking dll's and such and can reclaim up to 2MB of RAM. I have MemMaid and like it a lot but unless someone can point in the right direction if MemMaid can do this I would certainly appreciate the help!!
Thanks!
voyager
Try this Smartphone Application, works wonders!
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
Valk Space Reclaimer is "one-button", in a sense -- you just have to run it, and it can stop all programs, free memory, etc.
MemMaid offers more options, more fine-tuning control, but is also more dangerous if you don't know what you're doing with it
Space Reclaimer is easier for novices to use, requires almost no setup, and it can be programmed to automatically exit after running. It can also be programmed to run automatically after soft reset.
I have no idea about the relative effectiveness of these programs. I know they both free up memory, because I've used them successfully, freeing up as much as 3 MB in one run.
I have not tried Oxios Memory, but it doesn't appear that it's been released for WM5 yet (there's an alpha version on the web page).
RE
Oxios Memory works fine on my QTEK 9000 (aka Universal) running WM5 :lol:
Oxios memory 1.40
New release of Oxios memory 1.40 - now states is PPC and WM5 compatible. Hibernate works well on my device and I have set it to start on wakeup using the notification queue method. However Closeapps has a bug where it sends windows media player into some sort of intro mode! So I only use hibernate.
most memory actually goes into caching windows fonts and last known state...
kinda like when u play text twist or bejewelled and u quit the app [ or so u thought ] and when u do open it again, it will still revert to the last known state...
such cache will take up memory
ie more apps opened and closed, more cache memory..
only way is to reboot the ppc.
Memmaid 1.72
It is only the new version of memmaid that comes with the "Reclaim RAM" program. It is a separate program that installs with the same CAB. I have run it several times, including when my memory had fallen by about 10MB in spite of the fact that nothing was currently running, and Reclaim RAM said there was no memory to be gained. A soft reset regained the 10MB. So my unscientific impression is that this program does nothing.
Soft resets, on the other hand, do a great job.
You are absolutely right. MemMaid 1.72 free up RAM does nothing on my I-Mate Jasjar no matter how low the program memory has gone.
Maybe they will release a bug fix.
Regards
I can confirm too on a MDA Vario MemMaid v1.72 Reclaim Memory does sweet FA! Zilch! Nothing! Useless non-working feature!
Well.... another confirmation....
I've tried oxios memory and memmaid's free up ram feature...
They both are almost same in the result, i.e. sometimes they free up upto 1.5 MB of space and sometimes, nothing.
Even when the memory drops to something like 50% of normal, with no programs running, still these programs don't do anything to warrant their install. Have given up using either as a soft reset works wonders.
P.S. I have a Tmobile MDA compact II (Charmer) and have just two days ago updated the ROM from tmobile website. Seems to work much better and has more RAM too (even with activesync running in background as it usually keeps doing).
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I own a MDA compact with 64MB ROM and 64MB RAM + 512MB San Disk SD
I would like to receive some suggestions about how to increase RAM and ROM on my MDA compact: after hard reset I see that, in fact, the available RAM for programs and storage is much less than 64MB, in fact it is around 40MB.
I guess the culprits are those cabs and installation files which are inevitably installed after hard reset from Ext-Rom.
I would like to know how to increase the available ROM+RAM after Hard Reset.
ALso I would like to know if it is possible (and how) to modify the external ROM and get rid of most NOT useful programms.
These following programs are NOT useful to me:
- album
- email whiz
- MSN messenger
- photo contacts
- Midlet manager
- Pictures
- Windows Media
- Zip
- xBackup
- games (both of them)
Thanks in advance for your kind help and advice
Replies to my personal email are welcomed.
Saulo
[email protected]
this is easy, do a hard reset, and then direcly afther aligning the screen do a soft reset windows will be installed but no other programs like (in my case) msn messenger t-mobile crap etc.
57.41MB after soft reset, remains as free memory
Thanks. I have done as you recommend.
1.
I noted that the remaining storage + program memory is 57.41MB, not 64MB. Why?
2.
Also I have noted that WITHOUT PERFORMING SOFT RESET all the auxiliary unwanted programs are installed and, SURPRISE, at the end, the free memory is still THE SAME, 57.41MB !? Why is that? It should be less, say 50MB
Thanks and waiting
saulo8666
Re: 57.41MB after soft reset, remains as free memory
saulo866 said:
Thanks. I have done as you recommend.
1.
I noted that the remaining storage + program memory is 57.41MB, not 64MB. Why?
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The remaining 6.5MB are used by system and not available to user.
2.
Also I have noted that WITHOUT PERFORMING SOFT RESET all the auxiliary unwanted programs are installed and, SURPRISE, at the end, the free memory is still THE SAME, 57.41MB !? Why is that? It should be less, say 50MB
saulo8666
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57.41MB is the size of memory installed.
The "blue bar" in memory is the memory available. The "white" portion is the memory used.
For example I have:
Storage: Allocated 21.18 - In use 11.83 - Free 9.35
Program: Allocated 36.24 - In use 14.63 - Free 21.61
So I have 26.46MB Used and 30.96 Free.
If I install more programs in main memory I will find less free space.
Ciao, ilVanni
Do you know some tool that can be ran sporadically, able to perform some sort of garbage collection, in order to minimize the memory leaks of WM05 and other apps?
The latest version of memaid has a feature called "Reclaim RAM", but from what I read its practically useless.
Still, you can't know till you try.
it's not true memory leaks the system know where the ram is and which minimized process is using it
and will reclaim it if another process is started which need more ram
Excuse me Rudegar, but did I understand you correctly:
There is no such thing as memory leaks no WM5?
If that's what you meant than I am sorry, but you are very wrong. No windows system up to date has automatic garbage collection, and if a programmer is not careful, I is easy to "full" the system in to thinking the app still needs some memory after it exited.
The lousiest example I encountered is the comm manager on the Jamin (see my ROM version in sig). It leaves about 1mb more after I close it (from setting->system->memory) than when it started. Also it refuses to fully close when I click 'exit' and I suspect the two problems are related.
of cause i'm not saying there is no such thing as mem leaks
on any os or 3th party applications
what i say is that ppl should not confuse it with the way that pocketpc's always minimized applications rather then close them so they start faster if the user want to start using that application once more
sktools, Pocket Mechanic, memmaid have Ram cleaning tools, Not sure if or how they work.
Both have trial downloads of handango.
http://www.oxios.com/memory/
read about this one not sure if it's any good but it's free
Hello there.
I´m a happy TNT 5.0 ROM user, and I was wondering if anybody can point me in the right direction about the restoration of the free program memory.
The software:
I´m actually using three different software applications to restore the program memory to it´s higher free memory, they are:
1. PBar - A small free task manager that I use to close all the applications running.
2. Oxios CloseApps - A small free application that came emmbedded inside TNT 5.0, to close all the applications. Actually when I run this after closing all applications with PBar, I still can get some free memory back.
3. Oxios Hibernate - Another small and free application, also from TNT 5.0, that sends a small command to all applications to free memory.
4. TaskManager: An application to check running process and memory.
So this is what is happening:
I softreset the device and get about 28.3 mb free program memory, but for the tests, it get´s down to 26.36mb as i´m using a screen capture software and task manager (Picture 1.
Then I play with the device for a while, opening applications, looking at big pictures, playing music, connecting to the internet using gprs and wi-fi, using windows live messenger, and then, closing everything again using the stated software in it´s order (1, 2, 3). By using each software, I get some free memory back, but still can get the memory that I get after a soft reset but only 24.58mb free.
As you can see on the attached files, the main difference is the memory that´s being used by the main 4 process, but still the difference is only 1.062 kb and as stated under the clock, there are still more than 700kb of memory that somehow got lost in the middle.
There´s one more process running on the "after playing" image, but it´s way under 10k, so it shouldn´t matter at all.
Actually when typing this thread, i received a call, and then the process called cprog.exe stoled some more free program memory that I can´t get back using neighter of the three applications stated above.
Anybody know how to deal with this? It´s possible to get near the same free memory back as the one you get after a soft reset?
One memory eater app
One of the most program memory vanisher applications, seems to be Windows Live Messenger, as after a soft reset, and then using it for a while, and even after closing all applications and sending hibernate and kill commands to everything, I ended up with almost 3.5 mb of free program memory lost in the process...
Where is all that free memory going?
Can I get it back somehow without needing to softreset?
Is there a good Application killer that does the trick?
Anybody?
there is a small memleak in tnt 5, i noticed it too, but all in all its still a great and fast rom, with neatly arranged apps
My company just released a new addition of windows mobile (WM) based software. Before the release I decided that I would "anticipate" the release by purchasing an used HTC Mogul which the seller of the phone had installed WM 6.1 professional. Little did I know that my company requires 25 MB of program memory to be available when installing the software. I followed many of the suggestions made in other forum threads about "cleaning up" program memory but at best I couldn't get above 24 MB of program memory (i.e. oxios hibernate & MemMaid included). You can see how close I was, but I can't install this software without having ActiveSync running as well. Here are my questions:
1) Is there anyway to get the HTC Mogul program memory to be more than 25 MB? Total memory is almost 47MB. Does the system really take up that much program memory?
2) Is there any type of program that I could install that would show more memory than actually exists? Like a "Pseudo" program memory creating program.
What stinks is that my company requires you to activate your phone using desktop software while in activesync. My phone meets all minimum requirements but program memory. Anyone?
I suggest (though i doubt it's possble) you search for a CLEAN rom for your titan..
the cleaner the better
flash it and hope it will use less program memory.
about the fake app.. i never heard of one.
I used to use MobileSwap on my Dell Axim X51v. It creates a swap paging file on the SD card just like Windows does. That was well over a year ago, I don't know if it's still being updated or anything, but it ran on WM5 fine, should be ok on WM6
-crobs808
If you can't get a clean rom, why not just temporarily patch the program to run in 24mb rather than 25mb? It must be a hefty app to need all that ram, but does it really use 100% of the 25mb?
V
Please let me know where I can get MobileSwap
Please let me know where I can get MobileSwap. I searched the web, but could not find it. Thank you.
hey, i'm running wm6 on my uni and get around 22mb on boot. I'm sure others would be getting as much or even less if they're running 6.1 or 6.5
i mostly use Palringo and ANB viewer together (as opera mobile won't work and i need tabbed browser) and the ram level drops to as low as 2mb if i even open total commander or picture viewer.
this is painful as i would love to use my uni for videos / audio but that is virtually impossible with all the above apps.
Now, since the total memory shows 48.90 mb, i was thinking is there a way to 'reduce' the mem used by the baseband? if we can somehow increase the available ram to 30+, it would be very helpful.
today's softwares demand more ram and with devices now coming with 256mb or even 500+ram, this classic is quickly going under the sand...
I use my uni only for data so I for one won't mind it if the phone features are compromised for memory.
hoping for some good comments and ideas...
There are ROMs that will offer 30Mb or so on boot, just look around and find one. I think that having your RAM so drastically reduced by running next to nothing is caused by leak in the ROM you are using or programs running on the background that you are unaware of. I have a 64Mb Uni and could use Opera with pretty much any ROM and can't say I ever had the problem of running out of memory to the point of being unable to run programs or videos or music, basically what you describe is rendering your device practically useless. WM6.5 is resources hungry and I would not recommend it for a 64Mb device, but with 6.1 things should be running fine. So get a proper WM6.1, drop Palringo and ANB viewer and get Opera for tabbed browsing.
Another suggestion would be to upgrade your RAM to 128Mb.
Flash with another rom I can suggest you VnInt WM6.1 rom, after - install SKTools and optimize for more memory, look at the startup folder and delete all unwanted programs, remove most items of the today screen. I have 29 mb after restart and after 2-3-4 days of using the ram drops only to 22-24 mb
junooni said:
today's softwares demand more ram and with devices now coming with 256mb or even 500+ram, this classic is quickly going under the sand...
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Yes true most of the software today needs lots of ram and with devices with 256mb ram it's usual... and the highest ram i guess is in HTC LEO with 448mb...
Well if you use your phone only for data then you can try some vanilla roms... namely thingsonaspring's v1.1 ( around 30mb in boot wm 6.1) or even tomals vanilla roms (around 27~28mb on boot wm 6.1)... mine works fine with opera and total commander... so try to flash another rom...
i'm using wm65 without chome and titanium (HTC_UNIVERSAL-luca16thebig__WM6.5_v2.0.5_64mb_version_light___5.2.23016___build_23016)
still has around 27mb free ram and more then enough to runing palringo, mini opera, and others program at the same time.