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Ok I've done a lot of reading...
I was able to upgrade my i-mate jam from 1.06 to 1.11 last night.
A few questions, I'm a bit confused between the differences of ROMS. There's shipped, extended and radio. From what I've seen it seems like there's three roms on the jam. The actual rom, a radio rom, and an extended rom?
I think the shipped roms, where I got my 1.11 rom, are the complete packages. And the extended roms are small customizations from the manufactuers, ie i-mate and qtek, for their small programs etc.
I wanted to actually install the qtek rom because I've read somewhere that they include a pdf and ppt reader in their rom. But I think I can't install that without the actual rom. So I have to let the rom upgrade, and then when it says it's going to restart in 3 seconds, soft reset it. Then when it comes back up, apply the extended rom?
Someone set me straight.
Thanks in advance,
UltimaSE
I'm a little confused on what your question is but here goes.
YOur on the right track, when you do a soft reset before the 3 sec warning it stops the device from installing the apps in the extended ROM. You then need to use your file explorer and you will see an "Extended_ROM" folder, click on this folder and you will now see all the apps in your extended ROM. To install the 2 items you mentioned you need to find the files called.
CV2.41.386_wwe.CAB (this is from my O2 Mini)
Don't forget there are other CAB files from the extended ROM that you will probably need.
Does this answer your question?
And if you want to save a bit of main memory, you can get a free program called CabInstaller that will let you select where you want to install the extended rom apps. Something like a pdf reader would work fine if you installed it to an SD card or your Storage folder.
jimmy-bish, I've already downloaded cabinstall, great great program. Don't know how I put up with cab's before it.
ampda, basically I'm confused on the question of the different roms.
the main rom for the actual functioning of the device
the radio rom for the "radio"
and the extend rom, for the customizations from the suppliers?
So again, if I wanted to apply an extend rom I would download it from the ftp here, place it on my storage card. And reflash it, when it tells me it's going to reset in 3 second, I soft reset it. Then apply the extend rom, from my storage card?
Sound about right?
Thanks again,
UltimaSE
Yup, that's correct.
Weird, I reinstalled the rom, and reset it before it restarted itself, and then applied the qtek rom by running the auto run. Everything seemed to be working fine, except, I still have truefax and others. Nothing seems to have changed.
I'd like to apply the qtek rom because I've heard that it has a ppt and a pdf viewer, anyone have any suggestions?
UltimaSE
ultimase said:
Weird, I reinstalled the rom, and reset it before it restarted itself, and then applied the qtek rom by running the auto run. Everything seemed to be working fine, except, I still have truefax and others. Nothing seems to have changed.
I'd like to apply the qtek rom because I've heard that it has a ppt and a pdf viewer, anyone have any suggestions?
UltimaSE
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I don't think you need to install that ROM for those programs, If you want I can upload the CAB file I mentioned above and you should be able to install it
Hmm, is there anything functionally different between the qtek extend rom and the one that comes packaged with the 1.11 850 rom?
If you could upload it i would appreciate it. Please let me know where it will be...
Also, is there any difference between upgrading the rom in a 850 mhz, versus the 900 mhz jam? I have a 850, but I need to upgrade my gf's jam that is a 900, so I'm curious if there are any differences.
Thanks again,
UltimaSE
ultimase said:
Hmm, is there anything functionally different between the qtek extend rom and the one that comes packaged with the 1.11 850 rom?
If you could upload it i would appreciate it. Please let me know where it will be...
Also, is there any difference between upgrading the rom in a 850 mhz, versus the 900 mhz jam? I have a 850, but I need to upgrade my gf's jam that is a 900, so I'm curious if there are any differences.
Thanks again,
UltimaSE
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Not sure what the differences are but heres the file.
Thanks, so for the most part it doesn't look like I can get rid of the fax program and other stuff bundled with the 1.12 american 850 rom?
UltimaSE
ultimase said:
Thanks, so for the most part it doesn't look like I can get rid of the fax program and other stuff bundled with the 1.12 american 850 rom?
UltimaSE
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The only way is a hard reset then do a reset before the 3 sec warning appears, or better still do a Big Storage mod that will get rid of all the apps
Im new, have read all the guides, and tried searching.
Having had the phone 12 hours, i need to upgrade the rom, to either unbrand it, or switch it over to O2.
I have the Tmobile MDA Compact but use O2 Online as my operator.
Ideally i want to unbrand the software, but if i must, i will settle for going to O2 firmware.
I have backed up my original rom (1.01.00 tmob) and have my header.
Which is the best rom for me?
I could just goto 1.13.00 Tmobile, but then im in the same position but with a newer revision, i want it unbranded
Going for TMO 1.13& unbranded you got 2 options:
- Get the 1.13BS rom from the ftp, transfer your header & flash. Gives you 27Mb storage as well
- Update with the 1.13 shipped-rom and do the soft-reset just before the customization sets in. 3 seconds after the initialisation finished. Remember to do this after every hard-reset.
Cheers, M
excellent oltp, i was wondering the same. also, do you get any more space by doing the softreset before the customisation kicks in?
WWE_T-Mobile_1.13.zip (17,75mb) i presume thats the one im after (in /BigStorage)
It wil prevent the ext-rom from kicking-in. And especially java, BlackBerry & intellidialler are ram consuming. i installed java & intellidialler in my BS. just starts slower after that there loaded in to ram & have normal speed. Move the fikes & change all associated reg.values & shortcuts.
So yes you do save ram the combination with BS is very nice.
Cheers, M
so if i install the BigStorage Tmobile 113 which extended rom files do i use? MDACompact_WWE_1.12.152.zip or can i use any?
perhaps the O2Mini_WWE_1.11.922.zip? as i want to have majority o2 settings?
A BS-rom is unbranded, so you can use any ext-rom fileset you like. In your case I would say O2 is appropriate, the newest camera & album are perhaps from TMO. So mix&match.
Cheers, M
hmm i just upgraded to BS113 and have got download fail & checksum fail :roll:
[e!] having read the pdf its normal 8)
Yes that's normal, as long as you get the splash & it Boots ecerything is fine. Black screens are usually a pants full.
You said everything seems fine so you succeeded & congratulations.
M
yep all good here, just checked Version numbers and its still got old Radio, protocol and ExtRom so i guess theyre my next upgrades?? (how?)
In Device info my ext-rom version has disappeared, don't know when, because it was still there right after the BS patch. Radio version should be 1.12, but you can update to 1.13 with the files provided in the thread 'upgrading to TMO 1.13 and radio ...' It is under magician upgrading etc. Do it now it will cause another hard-reset.
Succes, M
i played about a bit too much and cocked it up needed a reflash, so i decided to try the Tmob 1.13 with 1.12 radio, that went on fine and completed. i aborted the tmobile customisation stuff, but maybe i was too late as i couldnt access Extended Rom, so i decided to put the 113 big store back on. and now i still have 1.12 radio
so now im running on the same spec as your good self.
many thanks OLTP
you're welcome
Dear friends
are you aware of any software that allows you to easily select your preferred current headset?
I have two (car and ear) and i hate it when i need to go into bluetooth settings and switch from one to the other.
Thanks
Try the bluetooth manager I posted. Seems to have options for that kind of stuff.
V
it seems that it does not work on wm5?
thanks
the software suggested seems not to work (not able to install) on my windows mobile 5, i-mate jasjar.
Any other suggestion?
finikas: many people (including me) have installed it on the JasJar/Universal and Magician. Make sure you have certificate locking disabled, and try installing from the cab or the zip files.
V
More preferrably the zip file...
The cab didn't work for me, the zip did work.
it still does not work
the reason might be the fact that i have the latest rom and radio installed.
Unlikely finikas - I've used it on the original Universal, new rom Universal, Magician, and it originally came from the Eten.
V
has anyone managed to get epocrates installed and working on a WM 6.5 rom?
or is there someway to resize Thomson's Clinical Xpert for VGA screens?
I've recently flashed the stock ATT fuze rom to one of Da_G's WM 6.5 roms. It's fast, stable, and has great battery life (currently sitting on my desk after 26 hrs+ w/ maybe 10% remaining, which is a tremendous improvement from the <12 hrs i was getting). Everything is fine and dandy, but the most important software for me does not work.
Epocrates installs but does not perform the initial autoupdate. it simply stalls at the update screen. I've tried both the wireless installation and desktop installation and both do not work. Speaking to their tech support, I've found that WM 6.5 is currently unsupported. Anyone get this working on a WM 6.5 rom?
In the meantime, i've installed Thomson's Clinical Xpert, but it's interface was probably designed for QVGA screens so the drop-down menus are not navigable on my VGA device. how can i go about resizing the application for a VGA screen (either through modification of the CAB file or if there is any application that can alter the resolution/stretch it)?
thanks.
workaround in this post below
Having the exact same issue- any help will definitely be appreciated. I love the new 6.5 interface and would prefer not to go back to 6.1 unless absolutely necessary
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
wctom said:
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
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Same here. However, I did revert back to 6.1, still no luck on installing Epocrates. Even disabled the Microsoft encryption setting. Still no go.
what wm6.5 build is everyone using? i've so far only tried it on Da_G's 21198.
i'm really surprised that epocrates won't install on wm6.5 as i don't think very much has changed in the architecture from 6.1. the issue w/ epocrates is that it installs, but hangs during the initial autoupdate. the actual application is installed and can be opened briefly (i can see the the on top etc.), but the data itself is not there b/c it cannot be synced. when trying to install via the windows desktop installer, the autoupdate progress bar pops up and the download starts, but quits with an error about the autoupdater conduit.
if the conduit can be fixed/tweaked perhaps epocrates will work? has anyone tried moving files from a working 6.1 installation to an aborted install on wm6.5? i'd try to do it, but right now i don't have the time to rebuild my wm6.5 setup, which is also why i haven't flashed to one of the newer 6.5 builds.
for the time being i'm using Thomson Clinical Xpert, but its UI makes the application barely usable on my Fuze.
vexingv said:
what wm6.5 build is everyone using? i've so far only tried it on Da_G's 21198.
i'm really surprised that epocrates won't install on wm6.5 as i don't think very much has changed in the architecture from 6.1. the issue w/ epocrates is that it installs, but hangs during the initial autoupdate. the actual application is installed and can be opened briefly (i can see the the on top etc.), but the data itself is not there b/c it cannot be synced. when trying to install via the windows desktop installer, the autoupdate progress bar pops up and the download starts, but quits with an error about the autoupdater conduit.
That describes exactly my experience. I am using the FuFuROM based on 21202 on my HTC Diamond.
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Same here. no epocrates and UpToDate in WM6.5
wctom said:
Same here. I just spent an hour trying to load Epocrates until I found this thread. I like the WinMo 6.5 much better than 6.1, but unless someone can find a workaround I guess I will have to revert.
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It's same with me. I reverted to 6.1 bcos of epocrates and UpToDate. epocrates wont install as e'one here said. UpToDate installs and runs but cant display the final pages. It seems to use the IE and the pages are stored inside .jar files. somehow it cant go inside the .jar files to display the html files. It says the pages are not available.
I hope these issues will be solved soon.
BTW, I'm using TESS Premium 4.3 by Aman in my Elf.
Same
Wow same here, that's incredibly irritating
i finally had some free time to tinker this weekend and i've got epocrates running on wm 6.5!
following my previous hypothesis, i flashed to an old 6.1 rom and installed epocrates and performed an update. then i copied the "essentials" folder from "Program Files" to my sd card. i then flashed to wm 6.5 (da_g's 21501 beta 4 kitchen) and installed epocrates. as usual, it could not perform the initial autoupdate. instead, i closed the update application, deleted the existing Essentials folder, and copied the Essentials folder from my sd card that was from the intial 6.1 installation to Program Files. epocrates now works! i didn't bother with any of the add-on components/programs as i mainly need access to Rx, Sx, Dx, and labs tabs. of course, you likely will not be able to update epocrates from wm 6.5 as the crux of the problem is the autoupdater module.
Post perhaps?
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
anyone has idea about UpToDate thing in WM6.5. Eventhough there is a workaround for Epocrates, I'm still stuck with 6.1 cos of UpToDate. Any input/suggestions wud be highly appreciated.
EDIT: I found about UpToDate in this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=499741 but u hav to cook into ur own rom... too bad ..
KHTar said:
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
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i have an archive of the folder and i'd upload it, but i think it contains personal information. just flash 6.1 the next time you get around to flashing an upgraded 6.5 rom.
KHTar said:
Hey just wanted to add my 2 cents saying I'm having the same problem. I'm using HTC fuze with Mystic ROM by vRC1.0 based on Da_G's 21500. It's also a windows mobile 6.5 ROM.
Anyhow I was wondering if someone could post a zipped version of the essentials folder that works, so I don't have to reflash my ROM twice.
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+1 for me too... I too would prefer not having to reflash again.
My Essentials folder won't be the same as yours. It will have my preferred insurance plans, for one thing.
Clearly, this hack allows ePocrates to run. However, it doesn't address the lack of updating, which is really one of the important features of ePocrates.
Since ePocrates is the primary reason I carry a smartphone device instead of a plain phone, I'll be sticking with a 6.1 ROM for now.
epocrates and active sync
I was wondering if anyone using the work around has been able to use active sync to sync with their computer. Does it break if epocrates tries to auto-update that way through the active sync? Is there a way to turn off the epocrates auto-updater so you can active sync?
I was able to use the work around without flashing my ROM. If you still have an old phone, you can have epocrates with Windows Mobile 6.1 on THAT phone, move the essentials to the storage card. Then install epocrates on your 6.5 device with the storage card in, and it works perfectly fine for me.
But now I'm afraid to sync my phone with my computer. I NEED epocrates to function at work. I want to be able to sync as that's one of the main benefits of a windows mobile phone, but keeping epocrates has to be priority one for me.
BTW, I checked with epocrates support, and they said they intend to support 6.5; they just don't know when.
Working now!
its now working officially with wm 6.5
greets,
A couple of days ago I installed the epocrates Rx on my brand new HTC HD2 (windows mobile 6.5) thru the standard installation procedure, and thought everything was running ok, until today that I just realized it doesn't support scrolling (I have to open the keyboard and use the arrow keys -extremely cumbersome!).
Then I searched on the Epocrates site for support and found this:
Question
Does Epocrates support Windows Mobile 6.5?
Answer
Epocrates does indeed support Windows Mobile 6.5.
While installation through a computer should be in essence the same as installing to a Windows Mobile 6.1 and older device, installing directly to a wireless Windows Mobile 6.5 device is a bit different.
Open Internet Explorer on your Windows Mobile 6.5 handheld and navigate to the following web address.
http://get.epocrates.com/?action=all
Please note that "www." is not part of the above web address.
Select the "Install Now" button for "Windows Mobile 5 and later."
Please take note of where Internet Explorer prompts use to save the Epocrates installer file (Main Memory or Expansion card). It is called:
OTAUpgraderSigned.exe
Open File Explorer on your handheld and navigate to My Device, My Documents. You should see the "OTAUpgraderSigned.exe" file there. Tap on it to begin the install process.
Should you encounter difficulties, please contact Epocrates support.
Don't know if anyone already tried the above, if so, please give some feedback. Does it work?
Anyway, I'll probably give it a try later in the day. Let's see what happens.
I have tried as Lovanova tells in his messagge but it still does not work scrolling in my HTC HD2.
Sorry to tell that this way described by epocrates support doesnt work in HD2.
hmm, you re right.
Scrolling does not work on HD2.
Damn!
They could at least update their product flag ship as so little that it doesnt look like MS-Dos-crap ... they ve got good looking apps on the iphone with nice fingerscrolling ...
its so ridicilous
So I've been using WModem with my Titan and TP. Just got a new TP2 recently with stock 6.5 rom.
To my surprise and extreme frustration, I couldn't get Wmodem to work on it even after spending like a whole day installing various cab (ICS and WModem fix. cab, etc) and registry. When I hit connect on my computer, it seems to stuck at the verifying username and pass. There is some sort of data connection going on the TP2 but the computer itself can't connect. I;ve tried on both xp and win7 computers, both of which worked with my tp1 with wm 6.1
Is there something that sprint add to the registry or inside the rom that preventing this from working? It can't just be that wm6.5 itself is the culprit since I think other people with custom 6.5 rom Tp2 been able to connect with WModem.
If anyone knows how to get Wmodem to work with Sprint TP2 with stock 6.5 rom, much appreciate your help. Thanks.
I know most people use ICS but I really have to use Wmodem since it's the only thing that been working good with my workplace firewall and VPN.
Sprint is really pissing me off now. I been with them since 03. If wasn't for what i been able to do with my sprint phones and SERO and all the customizations, I would have dropped them instantly a long time ago.
update: got it working... Just need a newer ver of wmodem
Here's Wmodem 2.59 straight out of Verizon stock 6.5 rom , much much thanks to Razorloves.
Copy the files to /windows. Make the usual tether reg changes. and tether away with non NAT ip
Here's the cab file so you can easily install and uninstall. I believe the necessary reg changes for wmodem tethering also included but just check after you install to make sure.... Once again much thanx and credit to razorloves for creating the cab file