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Issues with Windows Live Messenger

I have just installed a nice TNT 5.0 on my Qtek (Cingular 8125 like but called Qtek 9100 on Colombia).
I´m having an extrange issue regarding the GPRS-Edge internet connection of Windows Live Messenger, and I´m not sure if this could be because our cellphone provider, because of the newer 2.69.11 Radio I´m using or because of any other reason.
Actually the GPRS-Edge connection (It says Edge so it must be edge) it´s working like a charm on Internet Explorer or Opera. But when I try to conect to a Windows or Microsoft related website via Internet Explorer or Opera, the connection can´t be established (say http://mobile.live.com). This happens also when trying to connect to Windows Live Messenger using GPRS or Edge. It does not connect at all.
It´s almost like my cellphone provider has some exceptions on their gprs connection that makes connecting to a Windows or Microsoft server almost impossible.
Nevertheless, there is a walkthrough that curiously worked out and got me really pissed off as it happened a few times before I definetly could find out what was I doing that got everything working...
If I connect to the internet via Wi-Fi (By the way i´m not sure i must press the wi fi button twice on the command manager in order to get it up and running), I can do both things: log into Windows Live Messenger and use the full featured messenger client (send files, pictures, see avatars, send voice, etc) and log into any microsoft website (say http://mobile.live.com).
Til here, everything goes to the cellphone provider.
Here comes the weird thing:
If I turn off the Wireless network after login into messenger, the software automatically looks up for the lost connection and re-connects to the web using GPRS (EDGE) and manages to login successfull, so I can see messenger contacts and chat with them using gprs (edge). But I loose all the internet brownser ability to browse microsoft domains (mobile.live.com
I´m not sure if this has to do with the CHAP or the PAP GPRS autentication. I have tried both without waiting any time before attempts, with no luck.
Also, I´m not sure if this could be related to the EDGE network, as I previously owned a symbian sonyEricsson P910a that did not supported Edge but could connect with no trouble to Messenger through IMPlus.
I´ve also tryed the IMPlus version on the pocket pc with the same bad result as using directly Windows Live Messenger.
Any ideas?
Could it be possible to disable the EDGE network and use exclusively GPRS via Regedit?

Trying everything now. Even downgraded and upgraded again...
I can surf the web now using IE, even on the http://mobile.live.com site, but when trying to use Windows Live, i get a connection error and then a message saying
"Windows Live was unable to establish anInternet connection. Please check your Internet settings and make sure that you have access to data services under your billing plan. If you need help, please contact your mobile service provider.".
The incredible thing is that i´m actually using messenger beta directly on pocket internet explorer and it works, not quite nice, but it does, using wi-fi.
So why Windows Live can´t use this connection to log in?
Now, using GPRS connection, I try to log into http://mobile.live.com and it took too much saying opening... but it made it. But I was not soo lucky when i pushed forward to try to access the mail link on that site (that worked on wi-fi) as it got stuck at opening forever and finally it displayed an error. Same on any link under that page. It seems that it takes too long and crashes. But still I can go to any other site (Tryed www.sun.com right away and it downloaded quite fast a 200kb front page, so i´m not sure that this could be a Radio Issue.)
My Info:
ROM: 6.0.0.0 WWE
DATE 2/02/07
RADIO 2.69.11
PROTOCOL 4.1.13.30
ExtROM: Empty.
I´m trying windows-live-conection-fix from Faria right now...
Still when i try to login to messenger using windows live it says immediatelly There´s a connectivity problem.
I´m

i can't determine what is the exact error do you have, but i want to say it is working with me either with WiFi or GPRS, check out your settings carefully and try to set the settings as usual (don't use network wizard) and test.

I also can have intermittant connection problems using Messenger. It occurs on my Wizard (GPRS and Wifi) and on various PCs too. Before blaming the Wizard, consider it might be a problem with Microsoft and their servers. Usually on either PC or Wizard it will connect after a couple of tries for me. It could be that your provider has blocked the relevent ports or servers on your GPRS but I'm sure we would have heard from other users of your carrier if that is the case.

Ok. I´m from Colombia, and my carrier is called Comcel. There´s no Network wizard available for it at the moment.
Before unlocking my sim and messing up with the first wizard love upgrade (unfortunatelly i can´t find the original rom and probably i will need to extract it from my fathers phone if i can get a hand on it, but still will need to read all about it first...) I was able to connect to MSN without any issues at all. Even on my old symbian phone I used IM+ without any issues. Now that I upgraded it´s getting quite difficult.
Actually I can connect now without any trouble after a soft reset, using Wi-Fi, and it´s really nice. But I can´t get it to connect through GPRS (It´s definetly not a carrier issue as my brother has a WM5 wizard too that I won´t touch before I have this figured out first, and he can connect without any issues, quite fast, using an old 2.17 radio version on his G4).
The strange thing is that I can fly through the web (i´m now installing gmail-g.jar directly on my phone through gprs).
The strange thing is that when I go to www.microsoft.com or mobile.live.com i get stuck on Opening... and the GPRS connection goes too slow. Probably checking something...
It´s like under gprs there something going.
I´m aware that all the symptoms are saying something about carrier permits... but still with my sim card on my brother´s phone (it´s not my line) it works without any issues.
Now, I have started up the Wireless LAN again and it logged in right away on windows live messenger (it´s really nice...).
Then I went offline again, get the wireless off on the cellphone, get the messenger up and running on my vista computer, and then try to login into the phone using again gprs....
Miracle!!! I get logged out from vista!!!! but it doesn´t get all the way there on the mobile phone, as it get´s stuck on signing in... (Not enought)...
Now logged of from vista, I try to login again on the cellphone, no luck...
And loose the hability to navigate into mobile.live.com
Ok.
I do it one more time from scratch.
I soft reset my device...
then I go to internet explorer mobile and type http://mobile.live.com/
It starts the GPRS (Edge) connection right away... and goes to Opening... on the status bar... No luck.
But still I can download mail from the java applet of Gmail, and go to any other website, and even load google maps on the device under gprs...
So it´s a Windows Live issue that seems to have something against my gprs connection.
I was wondering if it has anything to do with CHAP or PAP autentication, but on my carrier they dont really know as they are charging me with their calls, as they don´t care, and I have tryed both but there seems to be no difference.
Anyway on my brother´s wizard the settings are exactly the same as mine on the gprs conection...
I will try to make my cellphone gprs connection work like a modem for my pc and then I will try to navigate the web and login into messenger from my pc using my cellphone gprs connection to see if i can do it, and then I will get back at you.

our network had this issue before, but they solved this later (thats b4 1-2 years)

Ok. I´m gonna try, one by one, the different radio versions that are on the radio-only forums.
Still if you know where can I get my hands on radios 2.17 and 2.49 (2.49.11) is the one that came originally with the phone and it´s the one that is on my father´s untouched wizard...
I´ll get back on you if i found anything...
By the way, does it has anything to do with the regional settings? Mine is Spanish Colombia even when i´m using your TNT 5.0 OS. Still I have run the keyboard spanish patch in order to get my keyboard layount right and i´m still only two signs off on the keyboard but it´s almost ok.
I know that this is not the place, but i´m off on the "D" key that it´s suppost to be a "+" but instead it´s showing the "Euro" symbol (don´t have that on my latin american pc), and on the C key it´s supposed to be a "Ç" instead there´s the "+" sign.

I had this issue the other day, luckily I work for the provider. The issue is with the gprs apn that you are using. If ur provider has multiple apns, then try another. If not u going to have to wait until they resolve their issues.
Dont worry, it isnt the phone and it isnt the ROM. I had the problem too when I just put tnt 5 on my device. Its a problem with the provider.

Thanks Mitchie55. So I will rest my case trying to flash, reflash, upgrade and downgrade radios, and try to trick out the registry for Windows Live security policies... Anyway, what´s exactly a GPRS APT and how can I check if my carrier has more than one GPRS APT? Are those ports? Can I check them under the GSM Test Mode screen (*#*#364#*#*)?

After all my messing around with Windows Live Messenger´s connection issues, i came along a Registry String that got my attention.
It´s not that I want to panic everybody, but on the TNT 5.0 Profesional with HTC Today release there´s a registry line that states:
HKLM\Services\Windows Live\Platform\Passport\PolicyExpiry
String 2007-09-25T19:16:57.9251948Z
I´m wondering what will happen on the 25th of September at 7:17:00 pm UTM...
Any ideas?

danielvelez said:
Thanks Mitchie55. So I will rest my case trying to flash, reflash, upgrade and downgrade radios, and try to trick out the registry for Windows Live security policies... Anyway, what´s exactly a GPRS APT and how can I check if my carrier has more than one GPRS APT? Are those ports? Can I check them under the GSM Test Mode screen (*#*#364#*#*)?
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Its APN - Access Point Name. Thats what is needed when u create a Cellular GPRS connection to connect to the internet.

im having the same issues, im with rogers wireless in canada
everything works except for the windows mobile live
i updated the software and i'm running ver. 10.6.0033.0600
on an x7500/athena updated to wm6 (originally shipped with wm5 from expansys)
i contacted my provider and they said they dont have another access point name for me to use other then the default one they provide
and they claimed it was a windows mobile live issue,
i tried this in my treo 750 as well and still nothing is happening
thats 2 devices now that dont work ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
i cant figure out what i'm doing wrong.

internet/data issues with flashed tilt

I flashed my tilt to an htc rom and I'm now having problems getting on the internet. Is there some place where i could find a cab file with at&t settings or anywhere I could find the settings and enter them by hand. thanks

still looking. thought I found a solution but it was for hermes.

try this network config...

thanks a lot. that seems to have done the trick.

turns out it didnt fix the problem. i can connect to the web via PIE but for some reason I can't get either gmail or windows live to connect. I don't know why it would work for some but not others.

Same problem
I am having the same issues too. IE and outlook mailbox can connect without any problem to the internet. Gmap too.
However, I am having problem with fring and skype applications. Anyone experiencing this issue?
I have flashed my Tilt with the original HTC Kaiser rom.

i think i might have the solution for ya...change the isp.cingular to wap.cingular

I'm having all sorts of problems, too. Very odd. I don't understand how it can work one minute, then not the next.
One thing that has seemed to help is to use the advanced configuration tool to keep the connection active all the time.
It's under Connections > Connection Always On.
Keep in mind, I had to choose MEdia Net. When I chose "My ISP GPRS", I couldn't connect at all....

I'm having the same issue. I didnt notice it until now with Fring. Over WIFI it works, over 3g it says cannot find internet.
I checked and my settings are already on the wap.
So other ideas?

I've also been having intermittent luck with the settings on my TILT flashed to HTC ROM.
One way I got around it for a while, was to connect to Pocket Internet Explorer to get the connection setup, then hop on Google Maps/MS Live Search/etc.
I also had this problem with MiniMo and Opera for a while. Eventually it all just worked itself out I guess. Also, make sure your 'proxy' settings don't get messed up. Sometimes I'll go into the connection settings and the "This connection uses a proxy" is checked... I'll go back in later, and it won't be. Not sure what the conflict is.

skola28 said:
I've also been having intermittent luck with the settings on my TILT flashed to HTC ROM.
One way I got around it for a while, was to connect to Pocket Internet Explorer to get the connection setup, then hop on Google Maps/MS Live Search/etc.
I also had this problem with MiniMo and Opera for a while. Eventually it all just worked itself out I guess. Also, make sure your 'proxy' settings don't get messed up. Sometimes I'll go into the connection settings and the "This connection uses a proxy" is checked... I'll go back in later, and it won't be. Not sure what the conflict is.
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Here is a solution.
When you create settings using the Wizard it puts 2 connections. 1 MY ISP and the other MEdia Net.
GO to Settings -- Connections -- Connections -- Advanced -- Select Networks -- First drop down box make sure that My ISP is selected then click ok up top.
Try it and see if it works now.
If it doesnt select MEdia Net as the default connection and edit it, remove proxy and see if it works now. If still no luck remove MEdia Net from one of the connections, by managing existing connections tap and hold and then click delete. Then set MY ISP as the default connection in advance --select networks.
Good Luck.

That took care of it..
Actually what took care of it was going into the media net settings and unclicking the proxy settings..
It was using a proxy to connect but no server in the box. I clicked and whammo works now!
Thanx

same issue
Just wanted to mention had the same issue (particularly with skype) and made the change mentioned further up in the post about changing the connection setting from isp. to wap. and now skype works like a charm, thanks!

please help me aswel
i had my tytn ii , unlocked from orange and am now using o2, gprs aint workin, dno wots up, iv spent hours surfin the web and entered tonnes of variations of the manual grps settings ie access point name = ... username password . neway these didnt work! phoned o2 they said they dont have the settings to send me. can ne1 help?

GPS always trying to connect via MY ISP GPRS with WM6.1

Ok so every time I try to connect to my GPS via Google Maps and Live Search my phone trys to connect to "MY ISP GPRS" and I get:
Dialed isp.cingular
cannot connect
error. I do not know why it does this. I have tried to remove hidden proxy still does it. tried restoring hidden proxy still the same. manually connected to COM4 still the same thing.
I have no GPS, is there a fix to this?
Also I am using ALEX's WM 6.1

first off what operating sys are you on att..vodafone..etc??
it looks to me that you have att...well you would first need to get the cab that you can find around here just search that would set all of your internet configuration....also with all these 6.1 roms there has been a problem with gps that has not been solved yet.....but fyi google will use your gps plus your operators internet to get access....it used both so if you dont have internet google is no good.....after that you just need to sit tight until one of these great chefs find the gps prob on 6.1...if you cant wait revert back to 6.0 for now....also check your radio version i think that has to do with a lot with gps also!!!
search search search...thats the way of the gods!!!!
good luck!!

thanks i have been looking for a while I may go back to 6.0 for a minute until everything is fixed.

I had this problem too. I performed a hard reset and didn't allow the connection setup to run. I entered the data conection info by hand. I also only have the single my isp created. it just points to wap.cingular
I also haven't turned on a-gps in schaps adv config.
so far no issues with the dial error cropping up.
pm

Settings in my sig. If you didn't find it already.

~~Tito~~ said:
Settings in my sig. If you didn't find it already.
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lol good job tito....i need to take some time and put links up in my sig for these types of situations.....just a little busy or lazy...which ever one you preffer....hehe

I am both. What ever mood I feel like XD.

Unstable radio on unlocked Treo 750

My Software Version - TREO750-2.23-RWE
Firmware Version - 1.54.00.00
GPRS / 3G connection not always launches itself. I have push email and i find myself having to go to "manage connections" and activate it manually...
Can anyone help, please?

Try again athena_unlock program (run from TREO 750).
This util is obtainable after use CheetahUnlocker and extracting to C or D:/TempChe
or flash again WM6 TREO750-2.23-RWE form miniSD nammed CHEEIMG.nbh

Thansk for your anwser.
I can't run it again because it keeps telling that i already ran the upgrade...

extract cheeimg_fw.nbh, place it in a folder with kaisercutomruu.exe (search forum for this), rename cheeimg_fw.nbh to ruu_signed.nbh, execute kaiser*.exe
I do not recommend upgrading to 1.54.30.x

Thanks for your answer. But, if yoy don't recommend this upgrade, perhaps i 'd better stay still.. Right?

btw, it happens frequently that my data connection doesn't start when some application (as the IE) requires it; but, after editing the connection (without changing anything at all) it just starts working... till the next time.
Thanks,

instead of editing the connection, do this instead.
start
settings
connections tab
connections
manage existing connections
on your isp click and hold the middle button or stylus and you will get an option that says "connect"

Well let's explore the issue at hand: You do not get an auto-connect to GPRS/3G. Can you explain the situation a bit more. Is there data outbound (e.g. internet browsing or mail synch) or do you expect data to connect when there is no data outbound? When you attempt outbound data traffic do you get an error or simply no attempt at all to connect to GPRS/3G?

The situation arrives when i try to access the internet (IE) or push synch my corporate email (with Onebridge).
Sometimes it works fine; but... suddenly it stops working (i mean, the data connection).

Enable Bluetooth DUN on Sprint Touch Pro2!

This took me a while, but I finally figured it out through trial and error. I know there are a few options out there for tethering, but this has always been the preferred way to tether when I was using the Diamond. It's wireless, you can initiate the connection from the PC, and it gives you better battery life than WMWiFiRouter or HTC Wifi Sharing. Best of all, you DO NOT need to initiate a DATA connection on the phone before connecting to your PC! Just fire up the BT DUN connection on your PC, click Dial, then browse the web!
Here's how we do this:
Install DotFred's TaskManager
Click select Menu, Tab Options, Select Tab, Services. Find "CM Guardian", click and hold until menu pop up and select "Set Manual".
Make the following changes on your TP2 with a Registry editor:
1. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing]
Extension="" Delete the "isext.dll"
2. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\InternetSharing\settings]
ForceCellConnection="Sprint"
3. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\OEM\Wmodem]
Check Profile=0
Connected=0
Multi-NAI=0
WModemDUN=0
4. [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\DUNServ er\ControlPanel]
Enabled=1
That's it! Re-pair your TP2 to your PC and BT DUN should be available as one of the services. Create a new DUN profile on your PC, leave username and password blank, and set dial number as #777. Click dial and you should be able to connect... just like old times.

Thank you so much for posting this. I have been ripping my hair out over this. However, I am on Verizon and thus my HTC Touch Pro2 has somewhat different entries in the registry than Sprint does. Does anyone know how to get DUN working with the HTC Touch Pro2 on Verizon? I bought a laptop specifically with Bluetooth just to use my phone as the modem but cannot get it working for my life.
After I did all the registry edits I could that you mentioned (even though all of them were not available since I'm on a different provider) I noticed when I try to dial out for a SPLIT second I will see "Dial Up Networking" listed under Bluetooth services. Windows promptly gives me a dialing error and that service on my phone disappears.
Anyone can give any pointers?

I don't have a Service called "CM Guardian". I have a custom ROM, would that make a difference?

foldog22 said:
I don't have a Service called "CM Guardian". I have a custom ROM, would that make a difference?
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Yes, some Rom chefs may have eliminated this service. I know MightyMike left it in his Rom, but I have not tested others on the TP2.
KD8FRE

Would this service be in WM6.5? If I download MightyMike's ROM would it be in there or is it only in WM6.1?

Thanks for this.

foldog22 said:
Would this service be in WM6.5? If I download MightyMike's ROM would it be in there or is it only in WM6.1?
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MightyMike's Rom does indeed have CMGaurdian. I cannot speak for other TP2 Roms, but his does.
KD8FRE

Can anyone give any pointers on getting this to work on the Verizon version of the phone? Been searching high and low!

There is no "CMGaurdian" on my phone. I did a full search for it and it's nowhere to be found. I have the stock Windows Mobile 6.5 rom. But it looks like without being able to set that as manual, I have to change the registry everytime I end up having to restart my phone. But even when I do that, it still goes back to phone as modem after a few minutes instead of staying on Sprint.

Awesome!
Thanks for the info. The connection sharing wasn't working for me anyway.
Just an FYI, you can optionally edit the registery to set the CMGuardian to Manual.
Open a reg editor and navigate to [HKLM\Services\CMGuardian]
Locate the Index key and change the value from 2 (default) to 1.

So anyone on Sprint TP2 with 6.5 stock rom actually got Wmodem to work? I've spent about 24 hr trying just about everything with no luck so far.
I made all the above reg changes, have WModem v02 installed on my TP2. Activate the wmodem prog, connect to computer with usb cable. When i try to connect on my computer, it stucked on verifying user name and pass. There is some sort of data connection going on on the phone itself, but the computer connected to the phone couldn't seem to go pass that "verifying user name and pass"
Much appreciated any help or comment. Thanks

Just wanted to add that I found this thread useful, got the registry entries and made a cab for it. This is for Sprint only! Download, install, and go, no need for registry editing!

Problem tethering via Bluetooth DUN to pspgo
Ok, I am pulling MY hair out on my ATT tilt 2. I am trying to use my fone as a bluetooth modem for my pspgo.
It seems that my Tilt 2 receives the data from the pspgo, but its not sending any data to the pspgo, when I test the connection the tilt2 receives about 9-16 bytes, but it says sent: 0 bytes.
I have energyROM july 16 2010 WWE winmo 6.5
Manilla 2.5.20161332.0
Build: 23563.5.5.0
I have seen vids of people doing this on the Raphael (FUZE) and other phones
I keep getting this connection error on my psp: (8030000B) I have tried so many dial #'s, changing settings, PDAnet,
I think the problem has something to do with:
it being WinMo 6.5 or
The custom ROM has disabled something in the Bluetooth or
Since the ROM is custom, the psp wont recognize this for some reason because just like the WIFI router; the carrier doesn't know I'm tethering. or
I have the wrong Dial-up # or
Authentication settings or Initialization command is wrong or
I need to use a Proxy network
Some other reason ( The ROMS BT stack) whatever that is lol
Does anyone have this or similar problem? Or know whats happening here?
Any help would be awesome!
Thank you

Worked Perfectly
After making the changes you suggested, this worked perfectly on my TP2. It's so funny, after I initially got my TP2 and tried it, I instantly gave up. Now that I'm a month away from going to a new carrier, and most likely a Sony Ericsson Xperia X10, I got really interested in getting this working. It was a breeze using the Resco Explorer Demo with included Registry Editor.

TP2 Stock WM6.5
Doesnt work for me. I dont have CMGuardian.
I went ahead and edited the registry anyway and still didnt work even after rebooting.
I'm hoping someone can help figure this out... Trying to tether with my new Xoom!

Thanks a lot defcon6, I was looking for this some time ago, but no look, but know, looking for some other thing i found it, thanks again

Same here, stock 6.5 rom and no CMGuardian. Did you ever figure this out?

Never mind, I did run the cab from pengc99 and it worked fine. After soft reset of the phone, it never got out of the "modem negotiating" state but running the cab again fixed it. Now if I just could find the equivalent to CMGuradian I would be all set but this is at least working.

Bluetooth setting to ALWAYS ON?
Thanks to this thread and the pengc99 file, I successfully (quite some time ago) paired my TP2 via the bluetooth to a Nexus 7 tablet as well as an android phone, but each time I turn on the phone, I have to go through the following steps:
1. Select Communication Manager
2. Turn ON the Data Connection
2. Click on Bluetooth
3. Select one of my paired devices, such as the Nexus 7 by clicking the large "+" icon
4. Select Bluetooth Networking
5. Select the "Share Internet Connection" option
6. Click Continue on the bottom
I tried various registry edit searches here and on google, but cant' find any way to lessen these steps or preferably have the Bluetooth sharing set to ON at all times. If anyone knows how to simplify this process, please post the stops or file that will help us all.
Thanks in advance