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Please could someone help or explain.I purchased the orbit II last week,I am still getting used to its power and capabilities.
In the manual it says it can play AAC files.I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
It recognises and plays MP3 files.The aac files are not protected they are ones that I downloaded myself from my own cds.
Also why can I not see photos that I have just taken that are saved to my storage card,in the photo viewer on Touch flo.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Peter
pocketmusic can play aac
Thansk for that,but I was looking to find out what the situation was with the phone rather than get a programme that will do something that the manufacturers are saying the phone should do.
I have noticed that the windows media player does add the tunes to its catalogue but files them under ARTIST "UNKNOWN" (as though the tags arent working).The touch flo or HTC player however doesnt even do this.
Does anybody know of a solution to this other than spending money on a progamme to do something that the phone should do already,
many thanks
Peter15965
It's really wierd. I have the same problem and also had this problem with my previous phone which was an O2 XDA Orbit 1 (i.e. rebranded HTC Artemis).
I'm afraid that I never found a solution that didn't involve third party software. I think the problem is that, although HTC have included the decoder to play AAC and AAC+ files, neither of the built in players seem to be able to read the tags from the m4a container format so, although they can play the contents, they can't incorporate the tracks in a meaningful way into the library (I also saw Windows Media Player putting everything as unknown).
I know it's not what you were hoping to hear, and I'd love for someone to prove me wrong, but right now I think you're stuck with going the third-party route.
If you don't want to spend money then I initially used TCPMP. It doesn't have any library browser built in but I found that by intelligent choice of the directory tree structure I used to store my files (My Music/<Artist>/<Album>/<Tracks>) then I could use the file browser in TCPMP to browse my collection in a fairly convenient manner. I now use Conduits PocketPlayer because that has a fantastic library browser and reads the m4a tags perfectly; the program is pretty resource hungry but for now I'm keeping the faith in the hope that they'll address that at some point in the future (their support is good).
- Julian
Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965
peter15965 said:
Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965
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You're welcome.
In most cases putting other apps on shouldn't slow down the phone. The reason apps can slow down the phone (and/or drain battery) can be because they have a Today plugin which, if not well written or if it needs to keep accessing the network, can slow things down. If an app does have a Today plugin (as PocketPlayer does) then you can often disable it (as you can for PocketPlayer).
The other reason for third party apps to slow down the phone is because Windows Mobile default behaviour when you click the top-right "x" button is to minimise the app (i.e. leave it running in the background) rather than close it down completely. Again, in this case an app that does anything significant when it is running in the background can slow down the phone. Clearly a music player needs to keep running while it is playing music but, once finished, you can make sure it is out of memory completely by selecting Exit from the application's menu.
In short, if you're careful to fully close apps when you don't need them, then you shouldn't slow down your phone at all (except so far as having a music player running in the background, whether built in or third party, will always put a drain on the CPU and make other apps run more slowly while the music is playing).
- Julian
Oops. One big thing I forgot to mention. If you do look at PocketPlayer then don't download the latest version (3.51) from their web site. There is a nasty problem in that build specifically related to playing AAC files on HTC devices that I reported to them and has been fixed in an internal beta for 3.52 which, as the reporter of the bug, I have been given to test. You should email [email protected] and say that you want to use it for AAC on an HTC device and hopefully they (Carrie) will let you try out a beta build with the issue fixed.
The issue by the way is that 3.51 doesn't correctly detect end-of-stream when an AAC track has finished so (a) it doesn't auto-advance to the next track in the playlist because it thinks the current track hasn't finished yet and (b) even worse, if you forget to explicitly turn off your device after you've finished listening then PocketPlayer thinks it is still playing your last track and so the device will not put itself into standby and can drain the battery. The issue is fixed in the latest beta build and as an added bonus it also parses m4a tags natively (in 3.51 you could tag your collection by using an option in PocketPlayer to infer the tags from the filenames used in your folder structure but it now reads the real tags in the latest beta).
There is also one other more obscure problem I'm trying to help them diagnose related to AAC on HTC devices but I've been a bit busy recently so am due to give them some feedback and check status on that today or tomorrow. This may or may not be fixed at this stage, I can probably give more feedback in a couple of days so personally I would hold off until I give you an update. If you definitely want to go ahead with a beta build then I can give you a workaround that works most of the time.
- Julian
Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965
peter15965 said:
Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965
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I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
- Julian
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I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
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I found out some interesting thing: Some files are playing correctly but others refuse to work. I think that has to do with the bitrate of the files. All my m4a-files are bought from Apple Music Store. Most times my files are the unprotected ones with higher bitrate, but I have a few files which were protected (unfortunately I must have lost the copy protection somewhere, I'm really sorry for that ). The protected ones were encoded in a lower bitrate. What I found out is, that all my former protected files are played correctly. So maybe Windows Media Player can only handle files up to certain bitrate which obviously should be lower than 256kbps.
Further test: I created a playlist within windows mobile, but the Audio Manager (Touch Flo) wasn't able to read it. I managed that the playlist was recognized by the program, but it couldn't find any files.
So it is possible to play aac files (up to a certain bitrate) and to create playlists in Windows Media Player without any issues (yet). But I couldn't get it working in TouchFlo.
So, ok, I made half the way. Now it's up to you to make it fully functional.
have the same issue, I see the AAC file in the explorer and can play them from there but they are not loaded in the catalogue. anybody any other idea how to make the visible there? is buying pocket player the only solution?
thanks for the help in advance to everybody
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I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
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The news isn't as positive as I'd hoped. The latest build has improved the problem (so at least they've identified it and found the right area to make changes) but it hasn't fixed it completely.
The player is still usable with AAC files but there is one glitch. After it's been playing for a while, say about 2 hours, then something seems to get corrupted in the image or via a bug in Windows Mobile itself such that thumbnails of the artwork for the album covers no longer display properly when browsing your music library. With the previous build the device would lock up at this point and require a soft reset so at least they've fixed that problem but there is still some sort of issue unresolved.
The workaround seems to be to just fully exit PocketPlayer every couple of hours and then re-launch it again so it's not too arduous and shouldn't prevent you playing with the trial version (although this partially-fixed beta isn't publicly available so you will need to contact support to see if they'll give it to you and given that it still has a known issue they might just ask you to wait a bit).
I'm obviously still working with them to try and 100% nail this issue.
- Julian
i am currently sitting on stock firmware and dont feel comfortable flashing my phone. I like that i can watch movies and videos on my device but windows media player is really laggy and jumps a lot. what other suggestions do you guys have for media players for 6.1 pro...
coreplayer is not free but its really great. plays divx better than divx player for wm. though it doesnt do tv out very well sadly. but its good enough to watch movies on my phone full framerate.
yea i have been looking at that. I just cant justify spending like 30 bucks for it. Thanks for the suggestion though.
roush611, consider for one moment getting comfortable flashing, it is very fun! I was very hesitant too but now I flash weekly!
On to your question...I wonder if S2P would remedy the issues you would are having? It uses WMP as it's 'engine' but maybe it would solve these issues.
Search for TCMP, free version of Core Player.
well i flashed my g1 and it was cool for a bit but then i could never get it back to stock fimware. So i dont really wanna mess with that again.
I tried to download TCMP but it just crashes everytime i open it... I am kinda at a loss.
You can try Kinoma play free version. It worked wonderfully on mine, and s2p was previously mentioned by someone. Nitrogen is another if the other 2 dont wor for you but kinoma imorts your media library while the other 2 dont.
The free version of kinoma play doesnt let you use the equalizer but it was never a problem for me because htc includeds audio booster with its phones.
You could try Pocket Player http://www.conduits.com/products/player/
I have only used it for podcast and audio myself but I'm very impressed with it. You should be able to download a 30 free trial version.
I've started a thread about this, but Pocket Player is probably the best player out there. However, every app that I've found does one thing really good, and another important thing really poorly. YMMV, though.
Search for "TCPMP Tech1 PRO7 Digital Play HD StandAlone Version.cab". It's really great. It does flash videos better than anything I've tried. I think the forum is everythingdiamond.info, or something like that. Read and follow the setup info.
Hi guys,
I got a Problem with the Musicplayer in htc sense, it is soo buggy when i want to scroll through all my titles, i think its because of the hundrets of Album thumnails it got to load. is there a way to deaktivate these??
Thanks for answers or reflections!
I have this problem aswell.
you didn't explain what this bug does..
if its the same im having;
At first, when in music tab, the volume button controls volume (as expected) but then after *something* happens, then suddenly it switches to being a previous/next song button, and requires a soft-reset to be fixed
+1 Its really annoying..
i read somewhere this no longer happens on 1.61, can any1 running that rom confirm it?
Hey guys, been lurking for a while, this is my first post.
I had major issues with my music player. I emailed HTC and they sent this response -
"Please factory reset the device again, and install the patches before restoring any data.
Please remove all media from the SD card and format it.
Please ensure you synchronise media to your SD card directly from Windows Media Player11 on your PC to ensure that files are converted correctly and test the device again."
Did this and hey presto, works fine now
May be worth a try, good luck!
Wow ! You may change your device also...
Have you tried to simply modify the mp3 tag (genre, tracknumber) according to my findings here?
See here
In my opinion, a lot, if not all, of Music Player issues are related to the way the music player handles the ID3 tag of your mp3.
Does anyone else have this problem? It is driving me crazy. The well-intentioned, but clueless folks at the Sprint store cannot figure it out, nor does the HTC tech on phone or chat have a clue. Seems to me that a device as otherwise good as this should be able to use a 16G SanDiskmicroSDHC with no problem. The HTC guy said it was not a compatible type of card! What logic is that? Have micro SD slot and not be able to load a HC micro SD for lots of music or whatever?
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Does anyone else have this problem? It is driving me crazy. The well-intentioned, but clueless folks at the Sprint store cannot figure it out, nor does the HTC tech on phone or chat have a clue. Seems to me that a device as otherwise good as this should be able to use a 16G SanDiskmicroSDHC with no problem. The HTC guy said it was not a compatible type of card! What logic is that? Have micro SD slot and not be able to load a HC micro SD for lots of music or whatever?
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are you using windows media? If so try one of the great free or pay ones out there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550973
second post down.
Can't find music on storage card
Hey!
I am using the native HTC Touch Flo 3D music app. I can use wm player, but I want the Touch Flo to perform as it should.
can it play the files off the internal storage? its possible HTC left out wma support since its a proprietary format from MS (i dont know what MS's policy toward playback is)
also, there are at least 4 kinds of files that end in .wma, i know a lot of players have trouble with the lossless ones
It does work
I use the built in music player Touch Flo music player. It plays all my music from my 16g chip no problems.
I first played them with WM Media player and loaded them into the library,
closed it then started the Fouch Flo music player.
Works great !!
Try it if it doesnt work for you I can test whatever your having an issue with.
Are the WMAs DRM protected purchased audio, or rips?
rompst said:
Hey!
I am using the native HTC Touch Flo 3D music app. I can use wm player, but I want the Touch Flo to perform as it should.
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stick with wmp, the tf3d player is way too buggy.
rompst TouchFlo music player trouble
L4z3r said:
I use the built in music player Touch Flo music player. It plays all my music from my 16g chip no problems.
I first played them with WM Media player and loaded them into the library,
closed it then started the Fouch Flo music player.
Works great !!
Try it if it doesnt work for you I can test whatever your having an issue with.
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Thanks! I have already tried to update library command, which goes through the motions os showing the number of files updated or whatever, then I close it and go to HTC's native music player and nada. So strange. I even do a soft reset in between doing the above. Any other thoughts?
rompst said:
Thanks! I have already tried to update library command, which goes through the motions os showing the number of files updated or whatever, then I close it and go to HTC's native music player and nada. So strange. I even do a soft reset in between doing the above. Any other thoughts?
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convert the files on your computer to a different format.
burtonsnow8 said:
convert the files on your computer to a different format.
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plus one, change them to mp3.
are they rips?
kierandill said:
Are the WMAs DRM protected purchased audio, or rips?
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Hello and thanks for responding. The wma's were ripped from my CD's...
I really don't know much about many tech matters. I am a believer in the tech, but want to use it, not create it. I'll leave that to others. Any ideas?
converting my wma music files on Sprint TP2
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convert the files on your computer to a different format.
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Hello, and thanks for responding. I will do what you suggest, however I find it truly amazing that a wma file, spawned by that great Windows creator Microsoft, will not play in their 6.1 Windows Mobile device; if only for very uneven and quirky playback. I mean, I can get a particular CD to show and I can arrow up or down to get to the various songs and then press the triangle play key and the CD will play the songs in sequential order. Like it is suppose to. However, the rest of the library will not show no matter what I do. Another person in this forum said he had been having no issues at all with the (presumably) same Sprint Touch Pro 2 CDMA running the same wm 6.1... using a 16G (like me) SDHC...What up with this?
It sounds like you are browsing to a specific artist and expecting others to show as well. Try browsing out to all your music. In the TF3d player click the left soft key (Library). Scroll across to the music note tab (All Music). In WMP, click the right soft key menu > Library. Then click the drop down arrow at the top and browse to your storage card. Library > My Music > All Music.
Hello
*#*#*# BEFORE YOU READ ON only people who have a wind mobile xt720 and dexters uk 1.2 upgrade need to read on*#*#*#
I am a noob at this but I spent most of my day researching the dexter uk upgrade 1.2 (2.2.1) and how to properly install it and I have some questions
I have seen some people saying they have issues with 720p recording(i.e not being able to get 720p resolution and only sd res) and some having issues with music playback.
Can anyone with a wind xt720 confirm these issues? If they are true or not? I ask because there seems to be alot of conflicting reports.
I would cry if something happend to my music playback abilities and I dont want to lose out on the 8 megapixel camera or its 720p hd recording.
If you need any more info just ask and THANK YOU to anyone who maybe able to help me.
And of course ALL HAIL DEXTER and what he has done for everyone who has the xt720 already
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Hello
*#*#*# BEFORE YOU READ ON only people who have a wind mobile xt720 and dexters uk 1.2 upgrade need to read on*#*#*#
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sorry, i'm not using Wind, but since the problems you've mentioned are not carrier dependent, I'll give u a few answers.
djkron said:
I am a noob at this but I spent most of my day researching the dexter uk upgrade 1.2 (2.2.1) and how to properly install it and I have some questions
I have seen some people saying they have issues with 720p recording(i.e not being able to get 720p resolution and only sd res) and some having issues with music playback.
Can anyone with a wind xt720 confirm these issues? If they are true or not? I ask because there seems to be alot of conflicting reports.
I would cry if something happend to my music playback abilities and I dont want to lose out on the 8 megapixel camera or its 720p hd recording.
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Not only ppls from Wind but over the whole world trying Dexter's ROMs have this issue where HD video recording is not recording anything. Just now Dexter said he's fixed that problem and will upload the patch soon.
So, if u don't want to loose ur 720HD, wait till the final stable release has come out. Just now, Dexter has not finalized his work yet. We're just helping him to try out the ROM and reporting the bugs to him.
hd recording found bug and there is no media gallery... gameloft game did work... dunno y it doest detect ext2/ext4..
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hd recording found bug and there is no media gallery... gameloft game did work... dunno y it doest detect ext2/ext4..
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version 1.2 is detecting ext2 correctly. I'm currently using it. Dexter remove Media Gallery coz currently it cannot playback videos. if u need for other purpose, download the app and install it.
As spider mentioned, there is a patch for the HD encoding. I haven't tried it myself yet though as it is not a big issue for me. I will eventually once I have tested out all of my favourite apps. So far I love froyo, it is much easier to customize the phone to how I like it. A couple of the apps I used on 2.1 don't have a froyo version, but most of them I don't need any more as the functionality is already built in.
I'm also on WIND mobile in TO btw, and my install was very smooth.
I forgot my USB cable that day and ended up doing it all over the air.
THANK YOU EVERYONE I REALLY APPRECIATE IT!!!!! Thanks.!!!!!
I am going to attempt the latest 2.2 update apparently dexter has fixed the 720p recording, i tell ya this guy is a genius!!!!
i will give you an update when I complete the updgrade.
media player issues
Hey again,
I completed the updgrade and I love the new 2.2.1 1.2a but now I am having a major issue,
before I did the upgarde I moved all my musc to my computer and backuped the device through motorola medialink(MML), the first problem came when medialink did not recognize a playlist I had created on the phone. I said no problem I will just remake it. Well now I restore the backup to the phone and only have 70 of my 1000+ songs showing up in the music player, none of my playlists show up either, although when I plug the phone into my comp MML recognizes all the songs and my playlists as being on the phone, I can even play them on the comp. When I disconnect it and restart the phone I dont see any playlists and like I said only about 70 of my songs show up, I have tried three different mediaplayers to solve this issue with no luck,
CAN ANYONE HELP ME??????
djkron said:
Hey again,
I completed the updgrade and I love the new 2.2.1 1.2a but now I am having a major issue,
before I did the upgarde I moved all my musc to my computer and backuped the device through motorola medialink(MML), the first problem came when medialink did not recognize a playlist I had created on the phone. I said no problem I will just remake it. Well now I restore the backup to the phone and only have 70 of my 1000+ songs showing up in the music player, none of my playlists show up either, although when I plug the phone into my comp MML recognizes all the songs and my playlists as being on the phone, I can even play them on the comp. When I disconnect it and restart the phone I dont see any playlists and like I said only about 70 of my songs show up, I have tried three different mediaplayers to solve this issue with no luck,
CAN ANYONE HELP ME??????
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There is a known issue with media scanning in 1.2a. To the best of my knowledge you can either use 1.2 which will not do 720P recording or 1.2a which has the media issue. If you want to stay with the 1.2a you will need to try a different music player such as MortPlayer (which I believe doesn't do play lists ) or, I've also been watching, kAmMa's Folder Player for Android (which I haven't tried yet).
HTH
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There is a known issue with media scanning in 1.2a. To the best of my knowledge you can either use 1.2 which will not do 720P recording or 1.2a which has the media issue. If you want to stay with the 1.2a you will need to try a different music player such as MortPlayer (which I believe doesn't do play lists ) or, I've also been watching, kAmMa's Folder Player for Android (which I haven't tried yet).
HTH
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thanks man, going to revert to 1.2 and hope it fixes the problem!!!
Some other options... you could consider sticking at 1.1b. It works pretty well, imo.
Or you could use DoubleTwist... which has its own library system... but requires you to use the desktop app to sync.
Accophox said:
Some other options... you could consider sticking at 1.1b. It works pretty well, imo.
Or you could use DoubleTwist... which has its own library system... but requires you to use the desktop app to sync.
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yah I know about this one, its one I tried, Just not sure if I want to spend the next few hours sorting all my music again lol.
It does have some kool features though
THanks again for the help !!!!!!
I tried to use double twist media player and I installed the app on my phone and pc, on my pc I made a playlist, transfered the playlist to the phone, it was on my phone until I rebooted then it vanished. Still seems to be a problem with media scanning, I also tried Mixzing basic and the regular music player with no success.