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andot,
first of all, you've done a great job on the updated WM6 ROMs. but as of now, those who use english interface and need to read and compose chinese occasionally have dilema on which ROM to choose. the only available one is WWE you released some time ago but it is quite outdated and buggy.
we are requesting for you to release an updated version on WWE where users can have the best of both worlds (English interface + chinese language support like those found in original dopod 577w) including bug fixes such as camera, GPRS issues, Wifi, comm manager, etc. i like the fact that much of the UI is untouched with no fancy clocks or bars in the old WWE build.
once again, THANK YOU very much for your hard work!
Nop, it is not the best of both world, it is the best for your world only. Most of us here do not require Chinese file, what we want is to make the ROM as CLEAN as possible, if you want chinese, you can always install the langpacks and fontpack, if you do some research, you can get it.
Or, safe the hassle, pay for CE-star
what can i say?different people have different needs. one man's meat is another man's poison. you cant expect everyone to think like you.
besides, andot's tornado WWE ROM has ~ 18MB ROM on fresh format, that's a lot of space increase compared to original WM5 ROM.
installing aditional language pack is a hassle and increased space usage a lot more than when embedded in ROM. i've tried PEE before, also has about 18MB ROM left. installed chinese language alone would take ~5MB, not to mention it doesn't work prefectly.
If andot decides to update the Tornado WWE WM6, there are people, especially asians will use it. other "so called senior member" who cant think in other people's shoes might not appreciate it, but i'll very much thank you for it.
Install Ce-star as I've said somewhere to some guy. It takes about 5MB space. I think you can install the trial version and use it without problem as they only charge you for the input not for the Chinese support. If you want Chinese input you can always install Plum SIP. It is totally free and much better than the Ce-star Chinese input.
Whether the langpack is embeded in the ROM or not does not make any difference, when cooking a ROM, the files are added, and registry are modified before flashing. If you install the langpack after flashing, you add the files, you modify the registry
And there is no need for your sarcastic comment.
FYI, I did PM melgurth a few times and discussed with him on how I can port the chinese T9 and language pack form Dopod AKU2 ROM.
If only I have the time, I will try to cook a ROM for chinese users, just that my exam is approaching and it is not wise to spend so much time for it now.
I think I offended you in my earlier post, my apology for that
please accept my apology too. but i must stand firm on my side that there are people who need both languages in one device, at least im one of them. im not trying to cause any trouble here.. just hoping andot will fulfill our needs if he has the time to spare.. or maybe you can do it, since (correct me if im wrong) you need it too..
Coolcode.cn has best WM6.0 English and Chinese version.
it is great!
I tried to import the T9 chinese files from AKU2 to my phone yesterday, so far I managed to get T9 pinyin, but it only shows boxes, I think I need to modify the font
Ok, I managed to port the T9 pinyin and T9 stroke file over to WM6, however I only can view them as blocks which mean I have some problem with the fonts, I duno why I just cant view Chinese character despite trying so many fonts.
Anyone have suggestion ?
try asking andot for help? i fully support your effort (or andot if he has time to build updated WWE with bug fix)!
karhoe said:
Ok, I managed to port the T9 pinyin and T9 stroke file over to WM6, however I only can view them as blocks which mean I have some problem with the fonts, I duno why I just cant view Chinese character despite trying so many fonts.
Anyone have suggestion ?
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u really missed something, u only have the input method doesnt means u can view chinese word, however it might fix with a font cab, u can download it over HERE . Please notice that after u install this cab your english characters will become so small, i know it can fix using registry threat but i dunno how to fix it, good luck!
Yea, I know, that is why I said I have problem installing the font. No matter what font I used, I still get blocks.
We can actually just add the font file but don't set it as system font, so the characters wont be small, im trying to do that, gonna hard reset first
karhoe said:
Yea, I know, that is why I said I have problem installing the font. No matter what font I used, I still get blocks.
We can actually just add the font file but don't set it as system font, so the characters wont be small, im trying to do that, gonna hard reset first
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Do U mean u need an English interface but still can read chinese? I hope i dint misunderstand...... what i did was, i install the chinese font cab 1st, after reboot will become chinese interface, then go to setting>regional settings> Set Locale to English(US) then reboot, will become english interface with chinese support, but font remain so small lol...hope it helps.
Can you post the cab file here? Cause I am pretty finished, except for installing the font, I tried to install the font by copy the neccesaries file and create new registry keys by referring to the regisry on AKU2 ROM
What I did was this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontPath]
"FontPath"="\windows\Fonts"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Courier New"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Nina"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
I hope I can solve this problem if you can pass me the cab file
Yes, I need an English interface but can compose and read chinese SMS
karhoe said:
Can you post the cab file here? Cause I am pretty finished, except for installing the font, I tried to install the font by copy the neccesaries file and create new registry keys by referring to the regisry on AKU2 ROM
What I did was this
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontPath]
"FontPath"="\windows\Fonts"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Courier New"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
"Nina"="\windows\Fonts\sunfon.ac3,SC_Song"
I hope I can solve this problem if you can pass me the cab file
Yes, I need an English interface but can compose and read chinese SMS
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I already post it on my #11 reply, it was http://rapidshare.com/files/53340896/Chinese-WM6_Sung.zip.html
I DID IT !!!, it worked !
But i'm going to say, this is the most ridiculous registry system ever, ill try to make a cab now including the font file
System font looks perfect !
Now there is only one minor bug (fixed)
I also realized a simple typo in the ROM, I fixed it, and now it unlocks the option to change between languages ( dont see any use of it )
karhoe said:
I DID IT !!!, it worked !
But i'm going to say, this is the most ridiculous registry system ever, ill try to make a cab now including the font file
System font looks perfect !
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Lol, congratulations man
ITS ALL FIXED, everything is fixed,
Now, T9 Pinyin = pinyin
T9 Stroke = stroke
Now, I just want to package it into cab file
Btw, do you guys think Sunglobe.ttf ( true type font ) or sunfon.ac3 ( compressed font format ) looks better? Difference is only few kb
Hmm, I actually spent 1 whole day to do this thing, and I screwed my OS in the process, thank god its perfected now
Alright, done, please try and give me your feedback
http://rapidshare.com/files/53386427/T9_Chinese_by_karhoe.cab
Remmember to reboot your phone
If this works well, I will cook it into Phil's BETA II together with Chinese localization files
Cab includes font file, sunglobe.tff, this one takes 3MB, the 2nd smallest size I had, the other one is sunfon.ac3 ( compressed font ), found in Dopod AKU2 ROM, but difference is only a few KBs
Good work there Karhoe! i don't have my phone with me now so i cant be sure if it works, but im pretty sure from the screenshots it does work.
Hi,
I would like to know if anyone has PDAC hebrew (WM6) in his Tornado.
If so, could you please share with me the files SEGOE.TTF and SEGOEB.TTF that are in the \Windows\ folder.
I need them to test an application in hebrew, because the ones that are on regular ROMs do not have the hebrew letters inside.
I do not need bidi support, that's why I'm not buying the software in pocketpc.co.il. I just need the fonts.
Thanks!
What's the easiest way to add a language? I prefer not to mess with the ROM, and I know I can get multiple language support with a third party software like touchpal, but is it possible to add one langauge (for T9 and/or spellcheck) without adding any software?
actually just tried touchpal and it's pretty good, no spellcheck but the T9 should be enough, I think I'll stick with it
Language packs for spelling checkers exist, for instance made by Molski.biz. These are just cab files you have to install. You'd have to search around a bit on this forum.
If you are using English ROM, but want to support Simple Chinese,Tradition Chinese,Japanese,Korean
just install it:http://www.wpxap.com/thread-5168-1-1.html
http://www.wpxap.com/thread-5168-1-1.html
downloaded, installed on my old ipaq hw6965 that i'm giving to my brother and it works perfectly! thanks!!!
I'm not that good with simplified chinese.
Basically I went to that website and I'm having trouble understanding how the program works.
Does it just read? or will I be able to type in Chinese as well?
And what is the method for typing Chinese? Will I be able to use pingyin format to type Chinese (I'm not savvy on chajei, or any other formats)?
What is the difference between this and CE-Star??
This is just the font to display (but not input!) asian characters. If you only need specific languages you can install other specific fonts.
For input, you need to install an IME (input method editor). For Chinese, CE Star is a good start which has handwriting support. But there are lots of IMEs (with pinyin, etc); a little searching on the forum should turn up plenty of results.
Hello all!
I have the Fuze from AT&T, and I can't seem to find how to display asian webpages / music titles.
I don't want my whole phone to be changed, just the ability to show asian fonts instead of symbols! I tried adding chinese/korean/japanese fonts to Windows/Fonts folder, but that didn't help...
Anyone have a tutorial? I also checked htcwiki, but no one has the answer
Thanks a lot!
You need to link your fonts to the base font (Tahoma) by adding some registry entries. Instructions here:
http://leeblood.com/2008/02/16/windows-mobile-6-changing-the-system-font-adding-korean-support/
Keep in mind for MP3 tags (and possibly also other formats), the TF3d player (which uses WMP) also requires the ID3 tags be encoded in unicode in order to be read and displayed properly.
there is a file somewhere on this forum that allows you to view chinese, korean and thai. search for KoreChiThai
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Ok, I got my phone to display chinese/korean/japanese using korechithai.cab
but... now none of my keys are working!! Including the slideout keyboard, the home key, the back key, etc etc... It still lights up with i press the fn key or the shift/caps lock, but nothing shows up on the screen.
Also, the onscreen keyboard won't let me backspace, and letter recognizer is screwy too...
UGH... T.T HELP!!
Here is Chinese for you
Here I found something to display Chinese.
Works for sms and some system things (I currently got a Chinese Sim in my mobile). Didn't work for my Chinese e-mails though. Didn't test with websites... Found it as part of a Chinese translation program... But these are just the fonts not the program. You can find ChineseFont.cab on this page:
http://sites.google.com/site/wmdict/wm-dict-general/wm-dict-v20/wm-dict-v20-install-wm
Hope it works for you.
I didn't experience any problems. Again, this is not for input (I guess), just fonts to display.
Try CE-Star, it work, also you can write chinese too
CE-Star ... and what about Japanese, Chinese, Thai
Hi,
I tried CE-Star before and it wasn't really stable. Changed a lot of things on the phone such as fields and text sizes being incompatible. One being too large that is...
Yesterday I also installed the KorChiTha and the Japanese I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
However, I already had the cab I mentioned two posts ago and of course it froze my telephone needing a hard reset
Too eager and too impatient... anyway learned my lesson. Now I am looking for something like KorChiTha (which works fine for me by the way, I only use Chi and Tha) but with Chinese, Thai, and Japanese. This of course to run on my UK Raphael (well I bought it as HTC Touch Pro). These are the languages I need, I know a bit specific...
Does anyone know if there is this combination package somewhere? I don't want to crash everything again by combinging two different packages.
Thanks,
You can install fonts separately. Find three fonts that you like (Chinese traditional and/or simplified, Thai, and Japanese) and place them in your \Windows folder. Then add a reg key like so:
[HKLM\Software\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink]
Tahoma = (multi-line string value)
\Windows\msyh.ttf,MS Yahei
\Windows\cordiau.ttf,CordiaUPC
\Windows\msgothic.ttf,MS Gothic
Of course, substitute font filename and font name for whichever fonts you use. You may also need to create a similar key for "Courier New" if any of your apps use it as a base font and are also trying to display Chinese/Thai/Japanese.
CE Star problem and solution
Hey all,
I bought my TP in Hong Kong and it came with a version of CE-Start which I'm guessing was written for the Touch Pro. I say "written for" because:
1. I tried to install the version which came with my TP on my friends Diamond and it wouldn't install oh the Diamond.
2. Same friend that has a Diamond installed a version (not written for the Diamond)of CE Star and one day his Diamond's SMS messed up. From the TF3D screen, he could read the message but if he tried to open the SMS in Window's the page would just be white; no text no nothing and he couldn't write messages.
Googled the problem and found the answer:
Delete CE-Star and SMS can be read again in the Windows SMS app. He deleted CE-Star and what do you know, his SMS worked again.
Same thing happened to another friend that installed CE-Star on his older WM phone. I told him to delete CE-Star and his SMS worked again also.
Luckily so far, my phone has not experienced this problem; could be because of the version of CE-Star I have. Hopefully this won't happen to other CE-Star users but if you can't read SMS all of a sudden, CE-Star is probably why.
PS If you do get your TP in HK; the version of CE-Star on the Application CD doesn't work...I called HTC HK and the customer support lady said the wrong version was shipped with the TP. To get the correct version which will install on your TP, go to the HTC HK website and download it from the support section. I bought my TP and called HTC in October 2008, so maybe this version problem has been solved already.
?? Can't Read Chinese in the Calendar Notes Section
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
asdfjklqwerty said:
Hi everyone,
As posted above, I have CE-Star installed on my TP. I can read and write Chinese in everything so far except for the notes section in the calendar area.
The subject line in the calendar entry will display Chinese, but not if I write Chinese in the Notes area. If I write Chinese in the Notes area, Chinese is displayed but when I try to view the entry, the Chinese text is gone and replaced with "???????????"
Any ideas why?
Thanks
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Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
fhsieh said:
Is your TPro set to use Chinese regional settings? If not, you may give it a try. Without it, the Calendar app may not be reading the calendar database correctly.
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Hey fhsieh,
Thanks for the advice; I didn't even think about that.
Tried changing the regional settings to Hong Kong but the calendar notes section still displayed "???" in place of the Chinese characters. Numbers and letters of the alphabet display properly though.
Any other changes you can think that might help?
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
Awsome, thanks for the help again. I'm backing up my phone now and will try these regedits after work tonight. Hope things go well; I'll report later.
fhsieh said:
It may be an issue with the default locale ID/codepage, and could be causing the SIP to not send the characters to the Calendar app properly. You may try adding/editing the following keys in order to force WM to use the specified codepages and locale IDs:
[HKLM\nls]
DefaultACP=dword:000003b6 (decimal=950)
DefaultOCP=dword:000003b6
DefaultLCID=dword:00000c04 (decimal=3076)
SystemLCID=dword:00000c04
Microsoft lists the Chinese (Hong Kong) codepage as 950 (for DefaultACP and DefaultOCP), and locale ID as 0c04/3076 (for DefaultLCID and SystemLCID). Please refer to the following:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms776446.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/win2k/setup/lcid.mspx
Please note: Changing the NLS settings affects WM system-wide. You won't damage your phone, but you may have unwanted side effects. So please backup your data in case you need to hard-reset. Also, CE-Star has its own way of using NLS, so changing these settings may break CE-Star. Furthermore, I can't guarantee it'll fix the "???" character problem, because it may be an inherent problem with CE-Star that cannot be fixed with these NLS registry keys.
I do know those keys worked for me when I needed to fix Japanese input problems on my TouchPro, but I am using standard MS IME, not CE-Star. If you're unsure about the settings, you can also try searching elsewhere for those specific registry keys (DefaultACP, DefaultLCID, etc).
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Made the registry edits but "???" still show up in the notes section when I open a calendar entry.
The good news is that I didn't have to hard reset my TP. Seems like the only changes which occured are a mixed bag of font changes related to Windows menus. The Programs, Settings, Start Menu, calendar and call history, and the soft keys are all different fonts now: the lettering is "thinner." Other Windows apps like email, SMS, and Contacts have no font changes. Also, it seems that all the lettering in TF3D is not affected as well
Thanks again for the help fhsieh.
One more question: how do you have Japanese (other language) input? Did you have to install a Japanese reading/writing program or by IME do you mean the same thing I use to type Chinese in Windows with my keyboard? If I can use IME (if WM6.1 comes with a language pack), can I just install it like I do on XP?
Japanese, Chinese, Thai combination wanted...
Just refering to my posts above... is it possible to have the combination:
Japanese
Chinese
Thai
Like in the solution for KorChiTha..???
Thanks
I use the standard Microsoft Japanese IME, which I installed through a CAB. I'm a bit confused as to what you're trying to ask so forgive me for just trying to be clear:
IME is not a program but a collection of dll files (and other system files, which add language and keyboard support) and registry settings (which load those files). There are programs that can do input without any special IME, but the input only works inside the program itself and will not work anywhere else in the system. 3rd party IMEs like CE-Star are the same, only they use their own dll files/settings.
Adding IMEs to WM is similar to adding keyboards to XP, but it is not the exact same. With XP, you can simply install regional support and add keyboards by inserting your XP disc. Microsoft does not provide such a disc for WM. But the required dll files / reg settings are pre-installed in certain phones (regional ROMs), so some people have extracted them to be able to install them to other phones that don't have it pre-installed.
With Japanese it's easy, since there is only one charset, one regional setting, and one set of keyboards (unless you want to use 3rd party IMEs). But with Chinese it's hard because of traditional/simplified, numerous regions and settings, and all kinds of keyboards (pin-yin, jyutping, four-corner, etc). CE-Star is a good alternative because it's just one single "suite" that can be used on practically any WM phone. But for that reason there will be small problems like the "???" character issue.
The benefit of Microsoft's own IME is that it may be able to avoid those problems. The trick is to figure out exactly which combination of traditional/simplified, regional support, and keyboards you want and then finding a package that has it (or finding the files setting it up yourself). Moreover, you may still have the same problems because not all packages are set up for every kind of ROM -- so there may be all sorts of other settings you need to change in order to get it working.
Still, if you want to try Microsoft's Chinese IME, a good place to start is Asukal's e-China package. You can also search XDA for Chinese IME threads. I would also recommend talking to some of the cooks who have setup Chinese ROMs, they will know better than I exactly which files you need and what settings. One of the newer Chinese ROMs is Jack's Chinese/Japanese Xperia ROM.
Relevant links:
http://www.asukal.jp/English/LocalizeCABS.htm
http://www.asukal.jp/Source.htm
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=445550
Follow the instructions and then re-boot.