I-Mate SP5 Low Memory - HTC Tornado

Does anyone know any way to store all contacts,emails and text messages to the mini-sd card on the SP5.
I don't seem to be able to find an option to do so.
Thanks

You can't. All those databases are stored in internal memory, and cannot be moved to the miniSD card.

Found this on another forum and it works perfectly have sync'd all my mail and attachments to the SD Card :
Email & Attachments on Storage Card
Forgive me if this has been posted before. Or if you all know this. I used to do this on my PPC before I got my smartphone (sp5). I just tried it to see if it would work and it does
Create the folders on your Storage Card '\Storage Card\Inbox' and the subfolder '\Attachments'
Import the registry keys as below. (try Registry Workshop and you can connect to Mobile device registries from your PC and import reg files. This saves having a Registry editor installed on the phone and typing on the device). If you are entering these keys manually rather than importing a *.reg file only use single slashes for the paths. Restart your device after doing this.
CODE
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\MAPI]
"AttachPath"="\\Storage Card\\Inbox\\Attachments"
"PropertyPath"="\\Storage Card\\Inbox"
This not only puts email attachments onto your storage card but puts all the *.mpb files which make up items in your Inbox onto the storage card too. This means I now sync the last month of complete emails (1362 of them!) from all folders on my Exchange server and it doesn't make a dent in the phone memory.

For anyone that needs it here is the reg key attached just import it into the registry of the SP5
tis a text file here, just open it and re-save it as map1.reg and you got the reg key you need.

Very informative!!

mitchello said:
You can't. All those databases are stored in internal memory, and cannot be moved to the miniSD card.
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Anything can be moved to external storage with a few registry tweaks. What you have to consider is decreased performance on those moved items vs. having additional memory resources available internally. :wink:

can we have more details how to save e mails on card?
guys, I am a little slow on this. can someone pls write down a step-by-step how to do implenment? or at least specify to what directory map1.reg should be saved for this to work?

SP5 wont put e mails or attachment on storgage card
I followed the instructions as given (created the folders on the card and imported the reg file to the registry using Registry Workshop). My SP5 does not put e mails & attachment on the storage card. (I rebooted the device, deleted the e mails on the device and resyched, but no go.
I recently upgraded ROM to 2.5.331.2 could this be the issue?
anh help or hint will be much appreciated.

anyone know how to put Contacts on the storage card in SP5?
anyone know how to put Contacts on the storage card in SP5? any help appreciated.

HelP!
I downloaded Woody's text file, saved it as map1.reg, and using Registry Workshop tried to import it into the SP5 Registry (connected to mobile).
I got an error message saying, "Cannot Modify Value...Access is Denied" the the contents of the key were displayed (\...\Attachments)
Any ideas what I did wrong?
Yale

I get the same result. I guess Woody's file and instructions are incorrect or incompele. Either way, it does not work. We need to wait until someone figures this out correctlyand puts it on the web. (It would be good if people refrained or at least disclosed when their solutions are untested.)

Well, I don't know Ramy...it appears that there have been 56 downloads of Woody's txt file and it seems that only you and I couldn't get it to work. That leaves 54 people who, presumably, did get it to work
COULD ONE OF YOU who did get it to work, please help us woefully ignorant types? :lol: pRETTY pLEASE?
Yale
(MDR)

There is one problem on pointing to Storage Card regarding PIM, because the system tries to open the database BEFORE mounting the Storage Card...
In the Tornado, if you change the registry settings for the PIM database, it will block during startup .If you wait about 10minutes, it will start but no PIM info is displayed in your Home screen, among other strange behaviors--- :x

So does anyone know what controls the startup process?
If so we could potentially get this workinh after all.

RamyG said:
I get the same result. I guess Woody's file and instructions are incorrect or incompele. Either way, it does not work. We need to wait until someone figures this out correctlyand puts it on the web. (It would be good if people refrained or at least disclosed when their solutions are untested.)
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You're on a developer forum, this is a "lab" environment.
Be thankfull that someone is going out of their way to try and assist.

"...There is one problem on pointing to Storage Card regarding PIM, because the system tries to open the database BEFORE mounting the Storage Card..."
The answer posted elsewhere is to disable Messaging on Today screen
"...Due to the fact that Today plug-ins are initialized earlier than the storage cards become available, to avoid the Storage Card2 problem you must disable the Messaging Today plug-in. To do this, go to Start/ Settings/ Today/ Items and uncheck Messaging..."
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&title=this_is_how_you_can_store_your_activesyn
I haven't tried this yet but intend to when I upgrade my T-Mobile MDA Vario to AKU2 ROM.
Shemesh

OS RegTweaker is suppose to do so. Only I can't change those options ? But this is still in beta stage.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}

MyDogReese said:
HelP!
I downloaded Woody's text file, saved it as map1.reg, and using Registry Workshop tried to import it into the SP5 Registry (connected to mobile).
I got an error message saying, "Cannot Modify Value...Access is Denied" the the contents of the key were displayed (\...\Attachments)
Any ideas what I did wrong?
Yale
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U should unlock u smart registry...
follow instructions..
HKLM->Security->Policies->Policies
here u should change some values:
00001001 DWORD=2 change this to 1
00001005 DWORD=16 change this to 40
00001017 DWORD=128 change this to 144
and finaly add new DWORD
0000101b with DWORD=1
Somehow i cant attach rar file with the proper registry editor, that should not give u "Access Denied" error while adding new record to registry. So if u'll need it pm me ur email.

Related

Change HTC Album default directory

How can I either set HTC Album to "\Storage Card\Pictures" or have Windows Medial Player 11 Sync to "\Storage Card\DCIM\100MEDIA"?
I've read the posts and the supposed fixes to changing HTC Album's default directory on the storage card. We have two registry changes thus far.
1. "EnableDCIM" set to 0
2. "SaveFolder_0409" changed to "SaveFolder_0405"
None of this is really working for me. The first option changes the folder to "Storage Card\My Documents" and the second one...well I don't know what it does besides make my previous pictures invisible to HTC Album. I sync my all the photo albums on my computer using Windows Media Player 11, but it syncs the pictures to "\Storage Card\Pictures" which HTC Album doesn't recognize. I really don't want to resort to manually copying files as WMP11 syncs the pictures really quickly and compresses my 2.6GB of pictures on my computer to ~80MB of pictures on my SD card and it automatically puts new pictures I've taken on the SD card whenever I sync my device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2018342&postcount=461
surgex0 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2018342&postcount=461
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Thanks! Altho, after making the registry changes, its apparent that its not as simple as that.
I think that this may actually be pretty complicated. That registry entry and "SaveFolder_0409" all point simply to "My Pictures" not "My Documents\My Pictures" furthermore the EnableDCIM tweak makes the pictures save to My Documents. It seems as if these entries are predicated on another "My Documents" registry entry elsewhere that tells the OS the folder is within My Documents. So in short, you can change the HTC Album folder to anything you want in My Documents, but to get it see anything outside of My Documents is more complicated.
I think I may try to approach this from the opposite end and see if I can hack Windows Media Player to sync pictures to either the "Storage Card\DCIM\Media100" folder or to the "Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures folder"
Possible Solutions!
Apparently, there are a couple of versions of HTC Album with a folder selection option!
I haven't tested these yet, as I don't currently have the time to do a hard reset and tweak my TC back to its current settings if these don't work. To those with more time than I, please try one or all of these versions and report back!
Version1
View attachment htcalbum.cab
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1739080&mode=threaded#post1739080
Version2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346872
Version3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1704152&postcount=189
Note: Version 3 (and maybe Version 2) may require this fix if the menus show up with garbled text as I believe that the original source was from an asian forum with menu text.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60318&d=1196675678
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348421&page=2
Version1 seems to be a pre-fixed edition of version2. Here are some screenshots of the Asian version.
Source: http://www.studiokuma.com/wm/?section=htcalbum
when i dl'd that advance settings program and i followed the steps, i did get it to make the pics / video / download get saved to my storage card
when i take pics or videos with the cam it now puts them in \storage card\my documents\my pictures | my videos, etc.
however, HTC album searches the ENTIRE storage card for picture files and places them in the album, not just the my pictures folder!
..so it shows skins for pcm keyboard, and other useless .jpg's from other programs and such that have no business being in a photo album..
This new version looks good!
there is no way to replace it with the other version except to reflash the rom?
that really sucks...
oh well, maybe sometime in the future there will be a nice rom kitchen released...just tell me where to donate and who to give money to so they can make it happen
surgex01, I did not mean to imply that these versions of HTC Album needed to be cooked into av ROM for install. They may work fine just being installed on our oem ROM. I can't say as I haven't tried installing them yet.
sonus said:
I haven't tested these yet, as I don't currently have the time to do a hard reset and tweak my TC back to its current settings if these don't work.
To those with more time than I, please try one or all of these versions and report back!
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Why would you have to hard reset?
I'm sorry i'm kind of a newb when it comes to how these devices work...
is there any way to replace the current version of HTC Album without flashing a new rom?
I thought that's what you meant by having to hard reset..
I'm gonna try one of em, I'll let you know if they work or not...and hopefully i wont need to hard reset if they dont..??
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update: The first one works great, thanks. Problem = SOLVED!
That's great surgex0! It looks like I'll be installing it too. Do all the gestures work also?
(The reason I hadmentioned hard reset before was in case it did't work and overwrote some of the original HTC Album's files. If that had happened, we would have to hard reset to get it back to normal.)
AH I understand now!
The gestures work and everything is great.
The only thing is it makes you select a dir every time you open it, which is kind of annoying...how hard is it to have a "settings" form with a dir. text box! Jeeze HTC what gives!?
lol..</rant>
Another annoyance is it installs itself to \HTCAlbum instead of in the Program Files directory, and it doesn't give you a choice to install it on your device or storage card either...
It can be uninstalled and I'm almost positive it will put the original one back in place, but don't quote me on that cause I haven't tried it yet =p
Either way, if it doesn't you can always download the separate .cab from the forum somewhere for the stock version.
Okay, so this may not be of any use, but here's my experience.
I wanted to view many of the pictures from my digital camera, AT&T 8525, or other sources on my HTC Touch Cruise. I had JUST got the phone yesterday, and saw that you had used WMP to move the photos from your PC to your Touch Cruise. So I did the same, only making sure to move the photos to my Storage Card.
However, obviously the pictures didn't show up in "Camera Album" while in that standard directory. HOWEVER, when I moved the pictures (in folders or not) to the "DCIM", then "100MEDIA" folder on my Storage Card... all the pictures were available! I can slide my finger slowly to scroll about 25 pictures at a time, or slide it faster to move maybe 50 pictures. If I'm going to fast, I can stop the scrolling by clicking anywhere on the screen and highlighting a photo... then pick the actual photo I want to start with, etc.
The only problem I've had at all, was when moving a LOT of photos at once in WMP (more than 400+) all at once... the sync didn't complete. I think I overwhelmed the program, because my "class 4" 8GB memory card probably couldn't keep up at some point. But I deleted the pictures that transferred over as 1kb or 0kb files, and could easily readd these photos later.
One mistake I made. I put ALL my photos in the SAME folder directly under 100MEDIA to start. But later realized I could keep the photos in subfolders and they still show up the same in Camera Album.
Probably too late, but I hope this can help someone.
Yea the picture viewer works well… it is annoying to have to deal with the dialog prompt every time, but I can live with that. Also sigh, unfortunately, the video preview program doesn't work with version 1 on my phone. it doesn't matter what folder I select. I don't use the video preview function, but I still would like everything to work.I may try the other versions to see if they fix this issue.
sonus said:
Thanks! Altho, after making the registry changes, its apparent that its not as simple as that.
I think that this may actually be pretty complicated. That registry entry and "SaveFolder_0409" all point simply to "My Pictures" not "My Documents\My Pictures" furthermore the EnableDCIM tweak makes the pictures save to My Documents. It seems as if these entries are predicated on another "My Documents" registry entry elsewhere that tells the OS the folder is within My Documents. So in short, you can change the HTC Album folder to anything you want in My Documents, but to get it see anything outside of My Documents is more complicated.
I think I may try to approach this from the opposite end and see if I can hack Windows Media Player to sync pictures to either the "Storage Card\DCIM\Media100" folder or to the "Storage Card\My Documents\My Pictures folder"
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To change folder to \Storage Card\Pictures
"EnableDCIM" set to 0
Do NOT change "SaveFolder_0409" to "SaveFolder_0405"
Change the value of SaveFolder_0409 from "My Pictures" to "..\Pictures"
directmail said:
To change folder to \Storage Card\Pictures
"EnableDCIM" set to 0
Do NOT change "SaveFolder_0409" to "SaveFolder_0405"
Change the value of SaveFolder_0409 from "My Pictures" to "..\Pictures"
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Hello,
I dont realy understand cause I have no "SaveFolder_0409" but I have "SaveFolder_040C" on mine.
So, I've tried to change "SAveFolder_040C" like you explained and changed "EnableDCIM" to 0, but no change, I can't see my photo on my Storage Card. I always see the picture in "My Images" on flash memory.
What's the mater ?
Thank's
Didier
I've Polaris (HTC Touch Cruise) - WM 6.1
im using Dutty's 6.1 with HTC Album 1_0_1030_720 , and i use AdvancedConfig to change the default path of the pic directory (to SD card dir) and HTC album still opens up showing the default (main memory) location pictures
anybody has any ideas?
@S3ntrax
Its always the same problem, I see, for anybody.
I've just found something :
If if you rename the directory in main memory, tha album search pictures in other directory. So rename \my documents\my pictures\ (or in french \my documents\mes images) in \mu documents\Pictures (for exemple), and the album search on other directory the pictures. But I don't know how to tell to album which directory...
Sorry for my pour english, i'l in france...
Best regards
Didier
somehow after me messing around with the settings now it saves to the correct directory on the SD card but now the videos i record go nowhere, can't find where it saves them, weird
on the topic of the HTC Album Viewer, have you noticed that when zoomed in, the panning is not as smooth as the panning in the default windows picture viewer? For example i notice that zooming in the default picture viewer takes a lot longer but then panning is quicker. while zooming is quick in HTC Album but panning is not as quick. can we have the best of both?
btw: in the HTC Album viewer I am able to see both pictures in my storage card DCIM folder and on the device my documents \ my pictures folder. when i take pictures they all go in the storage card DCIM folder.
Yup, I definitely have noticed that. Its becoming clear that while HTC have good intentions, they really didn't due the best job optimizing their programs for the device. This as well as the dialer are good examples. I hope that whenever they release the 6.1 ROM they fix all this stuff. I have read that they have Touch Flo (called Manilla or 2.0) updates in the works....and screenshots look to have added a folder/album view and hopefully they optimized the program to work better also.
wow, that looks awesome..!
how can i set the album to open "\Storage Card\DCIM\100MEDIA" instead of "\My Document\My Pictures". By the way i do not have the HTC Album thing under my root directory.

Opera:config

While configuring my new TD2 I got really bored of having to point Opera to my preferred downloads folder on the storage card every time I wanted to download installers. The default settings didn't help, and after some searching I stumbled upon the extra Opera configuration options that can be reached by typing opera:config into the location bar.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Under 'User prefs' I'd like to change
- Cache Directory4
The default value on my TD2 is \Windows\Opera\cache but I think changing that to a cache directory on the storage card would improve my device's performance because of the extra memory available.
- Download Directory
For the same reason I'd like Opera to start any download dialog in the \Storage Card\Temp\ directory.
- Maximum Allowed Tabs
Opera on the TD2 only allows a maximum of two tabs. On my Diamond1 I hardly ever got the 'maximum tabs reached' message, on my TD2 it turns out to be a real hassle. 3 tabs please.
Here's my problem.
Clicking SAVE after changing the above values results in the message Settings Saved in a Javascript warning dialog. However, settings aren't changed. Not even after restarting Opera or even the whole device.
Could this have something to do with the fact that Opera resides in the Windows directory? If so, or if not, what's wrong and how should I go about to have these settings changed?
OK I've got one problem solved. Copying opera.ini from the \windows\opera9\ directory to my computer, editing it and copying it back to the device helped solve the maximum tabs problem. The other options I want to edit aren't available in the ini file though.
Try to find more ini's. They have to be there. Also thanks for telling this, I definetly will use it when I get my phone.
Didn't find more ini's, but... I found out why the settings wouldn't change after editing them in the opera:config page: the lack of an OK button on the TD2 is part of the problem.
The entries in the opera:config page need to be acknowledged by hitting the ENTER button on the soft keyboard. If you just edit them and click SAVE they won't be changed. For that you need to edit - (select all) ENTER - SAVE.
Now I have Opera's cache and downloads directory switched to the memory card. And I have one problem left. The downloads directory path turns out to be the path that Opera uses when you open (in stead of save) mpeg, wmv, pdf etc. files while surfing. You don't open them online, but the files are downloaded to the downloads directory.
So I'm still stuck with the initial problem of the 'Save file' dialog directory. Tips are welcome
To get more tabs type in 'Tabs" in the quick find bar and it will pop up. This is the first thing I did. On my elfin I had changed it to 6 tabs. I currently set the D2 to 9 tabs.
In order for the change to take pace you must exit Opera fromt the menu and not by hitting the X button. Eventhough it doesn't show up in the task manager Opera is just minimized if you hit the X or hold it down.
Sounds good, but where exactly can I find this quick find bar? I tried to type "Tabs" in several places but it just gives me google results...
Smackhacker said:
Sounds good, but where exactly can I find this quick find bar? I tried to type "Tabs" in several places but it just gives me google results...
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In the Adress bar type 'Opera:Config' and you will get the page posed in the first post. After that type in 'tabs' where it says quick find. You will not find it maually searching the listed categories so you must search for it.
Enjoy your many added tabs.
Thanks...works.....have added this to my tweeks list
HTC Touch Freak said:
In the Adress bar type 'Opera:Config' and you will get the page posed in the first post. After that type in 'tabs' where it says quick find. You will not find it maually searching the listed categories so you must search for it.
Enjoy your many added tabs.
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That’s great, thanks!.
I would really like Opera to change "open in new tab" operation.
I want Opera to stay on the current tab and open the new tab in the background. I hate looking at the white empty loading page and then returning to the original page ....
K
I know its OT, but my Opera doesn't remember history, its really annoying entering every URL everytime, is there something that could be done, maybe through Opera.ini??
Thanks
robinVerdegaal said:
Didn't find more ini's, but... I found out why the settings wouldn't change after editing them in the opera:config page: the lack of an OK button on the TD2 is part of the problem.
The entries in the opera:config page need to be acknowledged by hitting the ENTER button on the soft keyboard. If you just edit them and click SAVE they won't be changed. For that you need to edit - (select all) ENTER - SAVE.
Now I have Opera's cache and downloads directory switched to the memory card. And I have one problem left. The downloads directory path turns out to be the path that Opera uses when you open (in stead of save) mpeg, wmv, pdf etc. files while surfing. You don't open them online, but the files are downloaded to the downloads directory.
So I'm still stuck with the initial problem of the 'Save file' dialog directory. Tips are welcome
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I'm trying this but no matter what I do it won't accept my change to the User-Agent any ideas??
To robinVerdegaal
This is a cool find (opera:config) robinVerdegaal, never saw this one around....thanks....
And you can save it to your Opera Favorites.
Opera's Settings File Explained
Opera settings explained.
I too have the problem of Opera not saving changes to the opera:config section no matter what I try.
My phone is the Touch Pro 2 on Vodafone.
Love the Opera experience as a whole but can't wait for flash support and I desperately need more than 2 tabs!!
Please note that you may require a reboot after you change some Opera settings. This seems to be because Opera is set to run as a background process on the D2 and so to make sure it restarts reboot (which is easily done by switching your phone off and then on again).
The number of TABs increasing for me did not work until I swapped SIM cards! I found this out by accident of course. Maybe try battery and/or SIM card removal but it does work.
If you tap in adress bar "opera:" only you will see more options also ":config" option.
I also have the "not saving" problem. I make changes, press save and it says I may need to restart but no matter what I try it doesnt save the settings.
HTC Touch Freak said:
In the Adress bar type 'Opera:Config' and you will get the page posed in the first post. After that type in 'tabs' where it says quick find. You will not find it maually searching the listed categories so you must search for it.
Enjoy your many added tabs.
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It doesn't works on my TD2 I,ve changed the settings, than ok and restart Opera (not with the X button), but next time I become only 2 Tabs again
No changes worked on mine using that config editor but when I changed the settings by copying the config.ini off my phone, making the changes and copying it back they work fine, including changing from 2 tabs to six.
Just remember to soft reset after uploading the file to your phone otherwise the changes dont happen!
KraFT_mk said:
That’s great, thanks!.
I would really like Opera to change "open in new tab" operation.
I want Opera to stay on the current tab and open the new tab in the background. I hate looking at the white empty loading page and then returning to the original page ....
K
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I was trying to achieve this on my original diamond, but i think this is behaviour that can only be fixed by opera and not .ini or reg tweaks
elmalote said:
I know its OT, but my Opera doesn't remember history, its really annoying entering every URL everytime, is there something that could be done, maybe through Opera.ini??
Thanks
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me too, tried to find it anywhere, but no success

Problem with programs installed on memory card

Hi guys, I have a question about installing apps on the phone. Btw i'm using HTC Touch Pro and non-modified firmware or custom ROM or anything, i only just got it a few days ago and haven't done anything to it.
And i'm still new to using Windows Mobile so please bare with my noob questions.
Ok so I noticed that when I install apps on the phone's internal memory, it shows up under the Programs list. But if i install apps on the memory card, it shows up under the Program list as well but it doesn't work. I.e, when i try to launch the app that is installed on the memory card, it doesn't work, it just shows an error saying something about missing files or invalid certificate.
Correct me if i'm wrong but all the apps/games shown in the Programs list folder are just shortcuts right? Well i'm guessing that the apps installed on the memory card created shortcuts that didn't give the correct folder path. And also, apps that don't work show the same icon, like a dead shortcut icon on your PC.
Ok so my problem is, my internal memory is almost full and I have a 8GB memory card, is there a way i can make programs installed on the memory card show up properly under the Programs list or make them work properly??
PS: Just a side question, it seems that if your phone doesn't have a sim card slot then it's CDMA, but some other guy told me that his phone is CDMA but has a sim card slot, so how can I really tell if my phone is GSM or CDMA?
it depends on the app. some apps have to be installed on the internal memory. filling up your internal memory is quite impressive though.. or i just don't install that many apps. i think most games and such should be able to be installed on external though. what types of apps aren't working? or are none of them working?
and if it has a sim slot, it's GSM.
fatpandas said:
it depends on the app. some apps have to be installed on the internal memory. filling up your internal memory is quite impressive though.. or i just don't install that many apps. i think most games and such should be able to be installed on external though. what types of apps aren't working? or are none of them working?
and if it has a sim slot, it's GSM.
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thanks for the reply. None of the apps i've installed on external memory work when i try to launch them from the Programs folder. I have to manually go to my memory card ---> Program Files and then go into the folders to launch the app itself, then it works. But the shortcuts created under the Program list don't work.
I even tried to manually make a shortcut from the original.exe file on my memory card and then paste it in the Programs list which is found in the internal memory ---> Windows ---> Start Menu ---> Programs.
But that doesn't work either......
for example, i installed Google Maps on my memory card and i can only make it work but going to the folder and launch it manually. But if i installed it on my internal memory, then i can simply find the shortcut under Programs list and launch it.
I hope i didn't make it sound confusing.
I don't know what you're doing wrong, but you're clearly screwing something up, lol. Are you installing to main memory and then cutting and pasting the program folder to your sd card? That's a guaranteed way to kill a link. You could get total commander (google) and use it to edit the links manually. Or, use sk tools to either install your cabs or to relocate the files to the sd card. You can also use TC to make shorcuts and send them to the start menu.
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Farmer Ted said:
I don't know what you're doing wrong, but you're clearly screwing something up, lol. Are you installing to main memory and then cutting and pasting the program folder to your sd card? That's a guaranteed way to kill a link. You could get total commander (google) and use it to edit the links manually. Or, use sk tools to either install your cabs or to relocate the files to the sd card. You can also use TC to make shorcuts and send them to the start menu.
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no no........ok i'll start over.
First off, no matter if you install apps on your Main Memory (internal memory), OR if you install on the Memory Card, the shortcuts to the program will always be created in the "Programs" folder, which is located at the following path, "C:/Windows/Start Menu/Programs". Where C: is your Main Memory (internal memory of the phone).
If that was confusing then think of it as if you're using a proper PC. If you have 2 hardrives, C: and D: drive, then no matter if you install games or programs on either of them, the shortcuts will always be created on your Desktop.
So my problem is, my C:/ drive or Internal memory of the phone only has 300MB and it's running out. I have a 8GB memory card so I obviously want to install apps/games on it. The thing is, whenever I try to launch an app that is installed on the memory card, it doesn't work. What i mean by that is, after installing an app, I go to Start Menu --> Programs and then launch the shortcut, and it won't work. That only happens if the app is installed on the memory card.
HOWEVER, if i go to the Memory Card ---> Program Files and then launch the app, it works.
Now think of this again as a real PC. When you install something on your D:/ drive, it creates the shortcut on the desktop. You then launch the shortcut on the desktop but it doesn't start. BUT, if you go to My Computer ---> D:/ ---> Program Files and then launch the app from there, it works fine.
So does that make sense?? I'm thinking that the shortcuts created by the apps installed on the memory card don't give the correct path, that's why it doesn't launch.
I've also tried to copy the original.exe file from the memory card to the Programs folder but it doesn't work. *NOTE* this is the part you got wrong, i'm not trying to install on the main memory and cutting and pasting the folder to memory card, i'm trying to do it the other way round but only making a shortcut in the Programs folder, not cutting and pasting.
So again, back to the real example, it's like i'm going to My Computer, then D:/Program Files/Example folder and copying "Example.exe" and pasting it on desktop. I'm simply making a shortcut from the original file to the desktop, just like i'm making a shortcut to the Programs folder on the phone.
My Start Menu is full and i've already assigned all my most-used apps to the list so i can't replace any of them. By the way, is there a way to add more than 8 apps to the start menu?? Is there a registry tweak for this because i want to add more than just 8. I already have Total Commander but don't know how to use it to edit the links manually. Please help me on this.
BTW, how do people normally install apps on the memory card and then launch the apps? This is pretty stupid since i have to fix the invalid shortcuts created.
I just counted, and I have 33 different programs on my card, all with shortcuts in the start menu. 1. You can create sub-folders in the start menu. That's where you organize the ones not in your top 7. 2. Check the path of your bad shortcuts w/ TC. Highlight the .lnk file, then push the pen icon. The path should look like this:
53#"\Storage Card\Program Files\Opera Mobile\OperaL.exe"
If the path is ok, then I don't know why your shortcuts aren't working. Keep in mind, the shorcut location is irrelevant. You can move a shortcut anywhere you want, and it will work fine. Change the location of the .exe, and you're in a pickle. You've got the programs in a properly named location (no typos), I hope.
Farmer Ted said:
I just counted, and I have 33 different programs on my card, all with shortcuts in the start menu. 1. You can create sub-folders in the start menu. That's where you organize the ones not in your top 7. 2. Check the path of your bad shortcuts w/ TC. Highlight the .lnk file, then push the pen icon. The path should look like this:
53#"\Storage Card\Program Files\Opera Mobile\OperaL.exe"
If the path is ok, then I don't know why your shortcuts aren't working. Keep in mind, the shorcut location is irrelevant. You can move a shortcut anywhere you want, and it will work fine. Change the location of the .exe, and you're in a pickle. You've got the programs in a properly named location (no typos), I hope.
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I didn't change the folder name or folder location or anything, when i install the app, everything just installs to the default directory. When I install to main memory, the apps are installed in Program Files (logically), and same with when i install to the memory card. I didn't alter the paths or anything.......so i don't know wot's going on either
Anyway regarding SK Tools, if i install cab files with it, will it create the shortcuts properly? Is this how you install your cab files normally?
And is there a way like a registry tweak to change the default installation path from main memory to the memory card?
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Ok i've just tried using SK Tools v4.1.25, i went to the setting and ticked "associate SKTools with .cab files" or something like that. I then chose Cab Manager, one of the options in SKTools and tried installing a cab file and everything installed fine except the same problem still occurs, i try to launch the shortcut in the "Programs" folder and still couldn't launch.
And also, some .cab files can't be installed with SKTools, as it shows the error message saying: "This file is not Windows CE CAB package", even though i can install it normally with the default installer.
sorry for double post but it's gonna look really long if i edit my previous post so i think it'll look better and easier, i've added some screenshots to show what my problem is, i think it's less confusing this way. Sorry that my phone is in chinese, but i haven't hacked the ROM etc to change it to english yet so please bare with me.
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This shows the Start Menu, and where the green highlighted icon is the "Programs Files" list.
This obviously shows the list of programs in the "Program Files" folder. As you can see, there's an icon called Fennec that seems dead or invalid. And it is. Fennec is a browser made by Mozilla btw. I have installed Fennec in my memory card and that's the shortcut created during the installation, I haven't done any copy or pasting yet.
As you can see when i try to launch the Fennec shortcut, it popped up this error saying something about invalid certificate or missing files. Therefore i can't launch the app.
Now, this shows the default File Manager used by Windows Mobile. As you can see on the top left icon, i am in the root directory of the memory card. As you can see, the Program Files folder is highlighted.
This shows the Program Files folder, every program or .cab files I install on the memory card go straight to this folder, I didn't create it or anything. As you can see, the folder Fennec is created here as i've said earlier that i've installed Fennec on the memory card.
Inside the Fennec folder, the fennec.exe file is highlighted. That's the original.exe file i've been talking about the whole time in my previous posts. If I launch this file, it works. I didn't take a screenshot coz it takes too long to launch but the point is, it works fine when i launch the original file from the memory card ---> Program Files. But as you can see in my 3rd screenshot, the shortcut created during the installation doesn't work. Again I must stress at this point, I did not create the shortcut, it was created during installation, just like a program or game creates a shortcut on your Desktop on a computer.
NOW AT THIS POINT, I am showing you that i'm making a copy of the original file. We're still inside the same folder as the above screenshot. I am not cutting and pasting, but just making a copy.
Now this shows me going back to the Main Memory --> Windows --> Start Menu --> Programs List. As you can see the top left icon is different.
Now, i'm simply pasting the Fennec.exe file I copied earlier in the Programs List folder, which is located in Main Memory --> Windows --> Start Menu --> Programs List, same as the screenshot above.
Now FINALLY, going back to Start Menu --> Programs List, I am now in the folder again like we began in the first 2 screenshots. As you can see, there're 2 Fennec files in the folder now, the one in the middle with the proper fox icon is the file i obviously just pasted. The one on the right is the one created during the installation.
NOW, if i launch the file i just pasted, i.e the one with the fox icon, it shows the same error again as shown in the screenshot.
SO WTF IS GOING ON?? I can only launch apps installed on memory card by going to its folder, but if i make a shortcut in the Programs List folder, it still doesn't work!
I hope that's less confusing now, i've tried my best.....
Ok, that's a lot, lol.
First, with sk tools you can use the cab manager to install programs with sk tools. This is useful because some cabs are not uninstallable (wish there were a better way of saying that). These cabs don't appear in the installed programs list and they normally go to main memory. If you use sk tools to install them, then sk will keep installation records, and if you go to the installed programs section of sk tools, the program will appear. Then, in the program manager of sk, you can select to move the application. When you do this, SK will update the registry and all link paths, so you won't have any weird issues. You can relocate the program anywhere you want. This is one of the many great features of sk tools, but you may need the paid for version (don't know which one you have).
Second, just take a look at the link path like I mentioned above. I have a feeling you'll see the problem. It's easy to fix, but it's even easier to just create a link with total commander. Check this post for a quick tutorial on using TC to do this.
Finally, maybe since your phone is in the Chinese language, there's something weird going on with the naming of 'Storage Card.' Looking at your caps, the storage card name in file explorer is in Chinese. Perhaps this is where the paths are being screwed up. Again, look at the link path with TC, but also take a look at HKLM\System\Storage Manager\Profiles\SDMMC and check the value of 'folder.' I'm pretty sure it needs to exactly match the name in you shortcut paths. For WWE touch pros, it is 'Storage Card.'
Hope that helps.
I use Total Commander and double click the cab to install it and have had no uninstall issues, but SK Tools tracking of all the install tweaks is great to have if issues do arise. Farmer Ted's advice about the name of the storage card has been an issue with languages other than WWE. Another thing you might check is the time delay windows uses to find the storage card. That value can be set with a RegEditer or done with Advanced Configuration under: Performances - PPN unload delay and PPN wait I/O delay. Those values sometimes can influence the devices ability to read the SD card. Short delay doesn't seem to effect reading the card with a file manager, but can time out too soon for a program file read request.
Give it a try.
Thanks for the advice guys, I will give your suggestions a try.
@Farmer Ted, I am using SKTools v.4.1.25, I think i remembered the version correctly.......anyway i'm using a full version of it and yup i've already tried using Cab Manager to install the files but as i've posted in my previous post, it doesn't work for some .cab files i try to install.
Ok i've just tried using SK Tools v4.1.25, i went to the setting and ticked "associate SKTools with .cab files" or something like that. I then chose Cab Manager, one of the options in SKTools and tried installing a cab file and everything installed fine except the same problem still occurs, i try to launch the shortcut in the "Programs" folder and still couldn't launch.
And also, some .cab files can't be installed with SKTools, as it shows the error message saying: "This file is not Windows CE CAB package", even though i can install it normally with the default installer.
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Anyway i already have Total Commander installed so i'll give that a try. Oh and I don't think there's anything wrong with the naming of the 'Storage Card', I know it's in chinese but it just means storage card in english, it's the same. But i'll try out ur advice and post back, thanks for the replies.
Ok guys, just to update on my problem, I've tried EVERYTHING and now I fully give up, it's too much work for a stupid small and simple problem like this, I really think that it's really due to the fact or problem that my phone is in chinese........as a lot of people have reported, this problem seems to happen only on phones in mostly chinese or non-english.
Anyway here's what I did........BTW I have updated my SKTools from 4.1.25 to 4.4.7.9 which is the newest version I believe......and it's full version btw, not trial.
So ya I pretty much did everything suggested by you guys and i mean EVERYTHING but i'll just list what I did so it's easier to track:
1. Used SKTool's Cab Manager to install the .cab files, but didn't solve the problem. Also, some cab files can't be installed with SKTool as it shows an error saying something like "this is not a valid Windows CE package".
2. Used Total Commander to install the .cab files but still didn't solve the problem. I DID HOWEVER find why it's not working, as suggested by Farmer Ted, i checked the link path of the shortcut and there is indeed a problem that is very easily noticeable.
First of all, 儲存卡 means storage card in chinese. The link path shows "???" instead of "儲存卡" so that's where it has gone wrong. But the problem is, even though i tried to use the guide posted by Farmer Ted on how to use Total Commander, which i'll post again here:
http://www.mobilitydigest.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10379&postcount=87
I've tried creating a shortcut by going to 儲存卡/Program Files/Example Folder/Example.exe
and putting it in the "Programs List" folder on the internal memory, i.e the folder that shows your shortcuts. But it still doesn't work. I then select the shortcut and choose "Properties", which is one of the option in Total Commander. I then chose the shortcut tab and looked at the link, and it's still showing "???" instead of "儲存卡"......
So then I edited the link and clicked OK, and same thing still happens!!
It seems that the phone can read chinese but can't save the input chinese properly.
It's like the same problem on a PC, if you guys can type chinese or any other non-english language, then try it. Create a notepad or .txt file and input chinese words in it and save it. Then, close it and re-open again and you'll find what you entered are a bunch of question marks, i.e "?????????" something like that. Or a bunch of random symbols. I guess it just can't save the chinese word properly in the link path, same thing goes for Windows Mobile, as per my problem......
3. I have also tried using Advanced Configuration 3.3 and went to Performances - PPN unload delay and PPN wait I/O delay, and tried increasing the value as suggested. But problem is still there.
4. Finally, I have tried using PHM Registry Editor (If i remember the name correctly) and went to the path: "HKLM\System\Storage Manager\Profiles\SDMMC" and checked the value of 'folder' as suggested and oddly enough, it's perfectly fine as it shows 儲存卡.
So then I thought, since the link path is "???" instead of 儲存卡, maybe if i change the value to "???" then it might work, so I did. But, problem still there.....
I think that's it, i've tried basically everything and i know where the problem is but can't fix it. Any ideas guys? I cbf hacking my phone and using HardSPL and custom ROMS etc, i haven't done it be4 as i've only started using windows mobile very recently and i still need chinese on my fone........
I've also tried this program called Start menu manager or something (full version) and it's really useful, it edits and creates links for you straight in the "Programs List" folder but it didn't solve my problem either.....
you can check here for the program i mentioned:
http://www.persian-forums.com/f93/start-menu-programs-manager-1-3-inc-keygen-18457/
anyway i'm out of ideas.
Dunno, man. If I were you, I'd try changing the sd card name to "Storage Card" and manually editting the path of one of your links. Changing it to ??? was worth a shot, though, and pretty funny.
OMFG I FINALLY FIXED IT!!
I simply have to go to the registry and change the card name to english characters, and after installing several apps on the memory card, the shortcuts showed up fine in the "Programs List" and launched fine as well!!
I did it by following the guide here, it's very simple!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388768
OMFG finally, thanks a lot for all ur help guys!!
Dang, and I just made you a cab to change the card name to "Storage Card." I'll post it anyway, in case someone else needs it.
Good job!

(MOD) How to install Windows Stores apps on sd card

hey guys and gals,
We all know that the Surface has limited storage. I was messing around and found a quick change to a registry key that lets you change where windows store apps are stored when installed. Tested and working on my Surface 32gb. see below for the key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Appx
change the key labeled PackageRoot to whatever directory you want, and all new apps will install in that directory.
Note: this does require that you change owner and permissions on the Appx registry folder so that you can edit the key. I have tested this will no ill effects.
You can also change the app repository to another directory by changing the PackageRepository key.
Test on a class 10 32gb card. Hope this helps!
Ahh, good find. I just used a symbolic link (which has the advantage of moving existing apps without breaking anything) but your approach is probably easier on clean installs.
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Ahh, good find. I just used a symbolic link (which has the advantage of moving existing apps without breaking anything) but your approach is probably easier on clean installs.
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Did you have to do anything funny with permissions to make the change? What was the command to make the link and move the files?
Last time I used a symbolic link (Windows "Installer" folder *sigh*), I don't remember Windows automatically moving anything. I was probably doing it wrong, but manually set up everything so it wouldn't be lost.
Used robocopy, with the switches to maintain ACLs and all, to copy the directory tree. Deleted the old one, and then used mklink /d to create the symbolic link.
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hey guys and gals,
We all know that the Surface has limited storage. I was messing around and found a quick change to a registry key that lets you change where windows store apps are stored when installed. Tested and working on my Surface 32gb. see below for the key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Appx
change the key labeled PackageRoot to whatever directory you want, and all new apps will install in that directory.
Note: this does require that you change owner and permissions on the Appx registry folder so that you can edit the key. I have tested this will no ill effects.
You can also change the app repository to another directory by changing the PackageRepository key.
Test on a class 10 32gb card. Hope this helps!
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where do I change the owner and permission? I opened the reg edit as adminirtator but could not change the folder... do I have to uninstall all the apps before changing...??
Youll need to change owner and permissions on the registry key. you can also change both on the windowsapps folder, though it isn't necessary.
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where do I change the owner and permission? I opened the reg edit as adminirtator but could not change the folder... do I have to uninstall all the apps before changing...??
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I have not been able to get this too work. I have made the registry changes with no problems but once I do that I get an error when trying to install any item from the app store. Once I change the registry back it functions correctly. Any thoughts? I did create a directory on the SD card first and mapped the registry setting to it.
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No nothing special. the only difference on my system is that the sd card is formatted as ntfs instead of the default fat32 that it came as. zero issues installing apps.
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I have not been able to get this too work. I have made the registry changes with no problems but once I do that I get an error when trying to install any item from the app store. Once I change the registry back it functions correctly. Any thoughts? I did create a directory on the SD card first and mapped the registry setting to it.
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Wonder if it is because I am using a 64 gb exfat card. I will try with another card tomorrow.
Damn - so you have to have the SD Card formatted as NTFS? I'll have to pull a boat load of content off of the card before I reformat it, then.
Has anyone determined in the NTFS requirement is technically driven or reg setting enforced? Would be nice if there were a modification that would allow exFAT to work without going through the hassle of reformatting. I did a cursory look in the registry and didn't see anything.
The only thing I can think of is name length and special character restrictions of fat formats. Haven't seen anything in the registry yet that determines the ntfs comparability versus far or exfat
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Damn - so you have to have the SD Card formatted as NTFS? I'll have to pull a boat load of content off of the card before I reformat it, then.
Has anyone determined in the NTFS requirement is technically driven or reg setting enforced? Would be nice if there were a modification that would allow exFAT to work without going through the hassle of reformatting. I did a cursory look in the registry and didn't see anything.
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How do I change the ownership and permissions??? All I keep getting is "Unable to change permissions on appx"
Please help
I can confirm that you need to have the microsd formatted to NTFS. It works fine using this method. The exFAT will not work. This was tested on the 64 GB card.
Thank you for this tip. I don't need to use it yet but it will sure come very handy later on.
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Youll need to change owner and permissions on the registry key. you can also change both on the windowsapps folder, though it isn't necessary.
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Please help me figure out how to do this. I really seem to be lost on how to be able to change the permissions and ownership of the key. I always get a message about not being able to change the settings.
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Please help me figure out how to do this. I really seem to be lost on how to be able to change the permissions and ownership of the key. I always get a message about not being able to change the settings.
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Right click on the key and choose permission...I assume you are familiar with how security setting in windows works. If you are not, reply here and I can guide you step by step.
Note: you have to change the owner of the key from TrustedInstaller to Administrators first, only then can you give Administrators full control over the key.
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Right click on the key and choose permission...I assume you are familiar with how security setting in windows works. If you are not, reply here and I can guide you step by step.
Note: you have to change the owner of the key from TrustedInstaller to Administrators first, only then can you give Administrators full control over the key.
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I also need help.
Well here is how you change permissions using security setting.
Click on Permissions to open the "Permission for Appx" window. Click on Advanced to open a window like this:
Currently, the owner is TrustedInstaller. Click on Change. In the Select user or group window, click on Advanced..., the click Find now. You will get the list of all possible user/groups on your computer.
Select Administrators (the one with 's'), hit OK, hit OK once more. Make sure you select "Replace owner on subcontainers and objects", then hit OK once more. You should be back at the "Permission for Appx" window now. In this window, select Administrators and check "Full control" box under Allow. Hit OK the last time.
Now you have full control of the registry Appx folder and will be able to change every key inside this folder as you wish.
For those facing the issue of reformatting a large SD card: there's a better option. SD cards, like all block storage devices, can be partitioned (legacy ones used MBR, I don't know about SDXC ones); they might use GPT. It doesn't matter, Win8 understands both). You might be able to use Disk Management, just shrink the existing partition on the card and then create a new one, format the new one as NTFS, and mount at E:\ or similar. If Disk Management won't do it right for removable media, use diskpart.exe (terminal user interface app, but with a good help system).
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For those facing the issue of reformatting a large SD card: there's a better option. SD cards, like all block storage devices, can be partitioned (legacy ones used MBR, I don't know about SDXC ones); they might use GPT. It doesn't matter, Win8 understands both). You might be able to use Disk Management, just shrink the existing partition on the card and then create a new one, format the new one as NTFS, and mount at E:\ or similar. If Disk Management won't do it right for removable media, use diskpart.exe (terminal user interface app, but with a good help system).
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Great idea, but it doesn't seem to work. The option to shrink the volume isn't available from Disk Management, at least for my SD Card. It's a 64GB SDXC card. Oh well.

Possibility of Outlook on RT8.0? / Outlook appeared in Windows Update

Well, yesterday my XPS10 told me that they are some updates available. After checking list I noticed... Outlook on the list. But I have Win8.0, so that was werid.
Anyway, after updating and reboot there was no outlook... so I started investigating. And look what I found in installed updates, and in Software Distribution folder:
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After unpacking cab from inside it, fixing file names (a few had numbers _001 _002 and so on after extension) trying to run outlook gives "Cannot start Microsoft Outlook" message. I hope that this it related to some not registered DLLs, maybe missing registry keys - maybe someone who has better knowledge than me can try to work on this?
I'm attaching here outlook-x-none.msp file that contains this cab extracted on the 2nd screenshot. As it's untouched update, I'm sure that's no problem.
http://kitor.pl/software/windows_arm/outlook-x-none.msp
kitor said:
Well, yesterday my XPS10 told me that they are some updates available. After checking list I noticed... Outlook on the list. But I have Win8.0, so that was werid.
Anyway, after updating and reboot there was no outlook... so I started investigating. And look what I found in installed updates, and in Software Distribution folder:
After unpacking cab from inside it, fixing file names (a few had numbers _001 _002 and so on after extension) trying to run outlook gives "Cannot start Microsoft Outlook" message. I hope that this it related to some not registered DLLs, maybe missing registry keys - maybe someone who has better knowledge than me can try to work on this?
I'm attaching here outlook-x-none.msp file that contains this cab extracted on the 2nd screenshot. As it's untouched update, I'm sure that's no problem.
http://kitor.pl/software/windows_arm/outlook-x-none.msp
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I haven't checked but I have a feeling that Outlook RT on 8.1 has both certs for 8.0 and 8.1 so it would work on both. Paul Thurrot has a version for 8.0 that has both certs at least.
Would certificates even matter if the device is "jailbroken"?
They shouldn't, but even without running jailbreak I have the same message when trying to run outlook, not the usual that file is not signed. And as @jessenic written, Office files has got two cetrificates, so then we shoud be able somehow to get Outlook running on RT8.0
I noticed something about Outlook in my updates too.
jessenic said:
I haven't checked but I have a feeling that Outlook RT on 8.1 has both certs for 8.0 and 8.1 so it would work on both. Paul Thurrot has a version for 8.0 that has both certs at least.
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It's too bad they don't offer it as a download somehow, even if it's only through something like software assurance program, or msdn, etc. I don't want to update to 8.1 as I need the jailbreak, but wouldn't mind giving outlook a shot. I wonder where this Paul Thurrot got his copy...
There's another update for Outlook. About copying files - I just done copy from 8.1 and replaced folders in Program Files and Common Files with 8.1 ones - it still works the same. So they are two options (as I just compared files with desktop office 2013 and seems that all needed ones are there):
1. problem is in registry
2. there's somewhere in source code if(windows_version != 8.1) fail;
After installing all updates on 8.0 and 8.1 and then replacing office on 8.0 (and adding some registry keys from desktop one - don't know if that changed anything), Outlook is starting! But fails with error that it can't register vbscript.dll. I'll investigate that later. Still, this shows that it can work on RT8.0.
Sadly, registering vbscript changes nothing. Importing all registry changes from desktop Outlook 2013 also. By starting mail setup cpl from office directory some functions are not working, one gave me error code that (some) class is not registred. Running regsvr32 on all dlls from office directory also doesn't help.
On first start (or after language change) trying to run outlook gives only error message from first post ("cannot run microsoft outlook"). Second run goes to this screenshot from post before.
Maybe you need dll and registry files from 8.1RT?
Yes and no.
By tracking changes in x86 Win8 after installation of Office 2013 (only Outlook component) I got list of all files that are located outside Office directories (truth is that we are talking about a few mfc dlls). And files that exists on 8.1RT exists too at 8.0RT, they are identical in terms of executable (differs just in second signature added in 8.1) and replacing them changes nothing.
Registry is sadly more complex thing - as desktop Office did approx. 3000 (yep, three thousand) registry entries.
As I'm going to reinstall OS after finals (I screwed Office registry anyway), I'll try to do some hacks later. I think about replacing Office files before first run.
kitor said:
There's another update for Outlook. About copying files - I just done copy from 8.1 and replaced folders in Program Files and Common Files with 8.1 ones - it still works the same. So they are two options (as I just compared files with desktop office 2013 and seems that all needed ones are there):
1. problem is in registry
2. there's somewhere in source code if(windows_version != 8.1) fail;
After installing all updates on 8.0 and 8.1 and then replacing office on 8.0 (and adding some registry keys from desktop one - don't know if that changed anything), Outlook is starting! But fails with error that it can't register vbscript.dll. I'll investigate that later. Still, this shows that it can work on RT8.0.
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Would you be willing to provide registry keys for Outlook? I don't have them, and I am running Windows RT 8.0. I would be happy to help out in getting Outlook to work
I'll look if I still have them somewhere, but I can also provide you full registry dump from 8.1
kitor said:
I'll look if I still have them somewhere, but I can also provide you full registry dump from 8.1
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I bet a full registry dump would work.
Here is what I get when I open outlook. If it asks to run setup again, maybe someone has the setup for Office RT...
[EDIT] I copied all the office registry files from my Windows Server 2012 R2 machine and now I am getting the VB Script DLL error
I never seen this error. But google finds something about wrong permissions to registry keys - maybe it's worth checking?
I'll upload registry later, as it's quite big (200mb afair).
But I'm just trying other thing. As I screwed up OS a bit, I restored clean 8.0 image, but before first boot I replaced all Office files with RT8.1 ones. Now I'm going through OOBE, then I'll try to run outlook.
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Ok, first run: Cannot run Microsoft Outlook
2nd run: the same message as yours
<here I imported some registry keys from 8.1)
3rd run: gui starts with Vbscript.dll not registered error.
kitor said:
I never seen this error. But google finds something about wrong permissions to registry keys - maybe it's worth checking?
I'll upload registry later, as it's quite big (200mb afair).
But I'm just trying other thing. As I screwed up OS a bit, I restored clean 8.0 image, but before first boot I replaced all Office files with RT8.1 ones. Now I'm going through OOBE, then I'll try to run outlook.
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Ok, first run: Cannot run Microsoft Outlook
2nd run: the same message as yours
<here I imported some registry keys from 8.1)
3rd run: gui starts with Vbscript.dll not registered error.
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Ok. Microsoft has an article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961100 that says there is a bug where Outlook cannot translate your name to ANSI if your Windows username contains Unicode characters.
I am going to create a new local user and see where that goes.
syn3h said:
Ok. Microsoft has an article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/961100 that says there is a bug where Outlook cannot translate your name to ANSI if your Windows username contains Unicode characters.
I am going to create a new local user and see where that goes.
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I already checked that, and this goes to nowhere Also, I done some DLL Hell analysis using dependency walker (working on RT dlls) and seems that everything is there.
I've copied Office from WinRT 8.1 to the microSD card and when it starts I get a blank error message that said nothing but "9". After I dismissed the message, Outlook froze and I had to force it to stop from Task Manager. I re-opened Outlook (from SD) and got the DLL error again. I'll check the system log and see what "9" means... :fingers-crossed:
Today Office SP1 showed in WinUpdate. Update cab is almost 250MB and it contains all files... is there any possibility of obtainig configuration from MSI installer (which file from cab goes to where, registry entries, etc)?
kitor said:
Today Office SP1 showed in WinUpdate. Update cab is almost 250MB and it contains all files... is there any possibility of obtainig configuration from MSI installer (which file from cab goes to where, registry entries, etc)?
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I believe the downloaded update cabs are stored in
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C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\Download
Is that correct?
I know (for the most part) cabs can be opened like any archive with a program like 7zip. I will download and attempt to decompress it and see what all is inside
Yes, they are stored there. No, they are no cabs, but executable Windows Update files (really, MSIs with other exension). Inside of it there's cab file with all updated files, but there's no directory structure - OS must somehow know what files put where, so there must be some list embedded in this MSI installer.

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